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by: Otto J. Makela - Mon, 5 Dec 2022 10:36 UTC

pnn calmagorod <calmagorod@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sez. n4
>
> http://www.asps.it/cio1.jpg
> http://www.asps.it/cio2.jpg
> http://www.asps.it/cio3.jpg
> http://www.asps.it/cio4.jpg
> http://www.asps.it/cio5.jpg
> http://www.asps.it/cio6.jpg
> http://www.asps.it/cio7.jpg

Still no actual patent information, just effectively the same info that
was already on the web site.
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by: Doctor Who - Mon, 5 Dec 2022 10:54 UTC

On Mon, 05 Dec 2022 12:36:53 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

>pnn calmagorod <calmagorod@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Sez. n4
>>
>> http://www.asps.it/cio1.jpg
>> http://www.asps.it/cio2.jpg
>> http://www.asps.it/cio3.jpg
>> http://www.asps.it/cio4.jpg
>> http://www.asps.it/cio5.jpg
>> http://www.asps.it/cio6.jpg
>> http://www.asps.it/cio7.jpg
>
>Still no actual patent information, just effectively the same info that
>was already on the web site.

be patient

I said patent will be published December18 2022

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by: Otto J. Makela - Fri, 9 Dec 2022 17:46 UTC

pnn calmagorod <calmagorod@gmail.com> wrote:

> an idea Mr. Makela
> AFTER EXPERIMENTAL DEMONSTRATIONS
> Do you want to sell in Finland anything of PNN thrusters?

I'll summarize my position: as far as I can tell, established physics
makes it quite unlikely that your device works as you assume it does.
All the data you have given us on the device seems to point to quite
plausible alternate explanations of the observed thrust effect.
For some reason, you take all these public caveats as personal attacks.
If your device were to work as you assume it does OR if it does produce
thrust by some other poorly-understood mechanism, it would mean quite an
upheaval of physics. That would be extremely interesting, but I am not
really holding my breath here.

Also, I'm not interested in becoming a hardware salesman.
If it works, I'm sure you'll have no shortage of people.
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by: Otto J. Makela - Fri, 9 Dec 2022 17:47 UTC

Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

> be patient
>
> I said patent will be published December18 2022

I can hardly contain my excitement.
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by: Doctor Who - Fri, 9 Dec 2022 19:39 UTC

On Fri, 09 Dec 2022 19:47:20 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
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>> be patient
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>> I said patent will be published December18 2022
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>I can hardly contain my excitement.

you can try with chamomile, or Valium.

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by: Otto J. Makela - Sun, 11 Dec 2022 17:33 UTC

Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 09 Dec 2022 19:47:20 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>>> be patient
>>> I said patent will be published December18 2022
>>I can hardly contain my excitement.
> you can try with chamomile, or Valium.

Do you remember Robert Shawyer and his EmDrive, which for a moment even
NASA engineers thought could produce thrust, but this unfortunately
turned out to be thermal effects?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EmDrive
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by: Doctor Who - Sun, 11 Dec 2022 18:25 UTC

On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 19:33:33 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
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>> On Fri, 09 Dec 2022 19:47:20 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>>>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>>>> be patient
>>>> I said patent will be published December18 2022
>>>I can hardly contain my excitement.
>> you can try with chamomile, or Valium.
>
>Do you remember Robert Shawyer and his EmDrive, which for a moment even
>NASA engineers thought could produce thrust, but this unfortunately
>turned out to be thermal effects?
>
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EmDrive

PNN is different !!!

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by: Otto J. Makela - Mon, 12 Dec 2022 16:34 UTC

Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 19:33:33 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>>Do you remember Robert Shawyer and his EmDrive, which for a moment
>>even NASA engineers thought could produce thrust, but this
>>unfortunately turned out to be thermal effects?
>>
>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EmDrive
>
> PNN is different !!!

Sure. There's this really nice bridge available to buy in Brooklyn...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_C._Parker
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by: Doctor Who - Mon, 12 Dec 2022 18:20 UTC

On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 18:34:41 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
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>> On Sun, 11 Dec 2022 19:33:33 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>>>Do you remember Robert Shawyer and his EmDrive, which for a moment
>>>even NASA engineers thought could produce thrust, but this
>>>unfortunately turned out to be thermal effects?
>>>
>>>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EmDrive
>>
>> PNN is different !!!
>
>Sure. There's this really nice bridge available to buy in Brooklyn...
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_C._Parker

I have no idea about what you are talking, it is Arab for me.

stay calm and watch PNN success !

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by: Doctor Who - Tue, 13 Dec 2022 17:17 UTC

On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 18:34:41 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

you are a troll just like Sylvia Else.

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by: Otto J. Makela - Mon, 19 Dec 2022 19:25 UTC

Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

> be patient
>
> I said patent will be published December18 2022

Today is 19th December 2022. Where can the patent be viewed?
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by: Doctor Who - Tue, 20 Dec 2022 07:08 UTC

On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 21:25:44 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>
>> be patient
>>
>> I said patent will be published December18 2022
>
>Today is 19th December 2022. Where can the patent be viewed?

you woke up early just to troll us?

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by: Otto J. Makela - Tue, 20 Dec 2022 08:50 UTC

Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 21:25:44 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>>> be patient
>>> I said patent will be published December18 2022
>>
>>Today is 19th December 2022. Where can the patent be viewed?
>
> you woke up early just to troll us?

I wrote that in the evening.
I'm really beginning to suspect there is no patent application.

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by: Doctor Who - Tue, 20 Dec 2022 09:10 UTC

On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:50:35 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 21:25:44 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>>>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>>>> be patient
>>>> I said patent will be published December18 2022
>>>
>>>Today is 19th December 2022. Where can the patent be viewed?
>>
>> you woke up early just to troll us?
>
>I wrote that in the evening.
>I'm really beginning to suspect there is no patent application.

you are a troll.

my time with you is over.

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by: Otto J. Makela - Wed, 21 Dec 2022 11:04 UTC

Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:50:35 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 21:25:44 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>>>>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>>>>> be patient
>>>>> I said patent will be published December18 2022
>>>>Today is 19th December 2022. Where can the patent be viewed?
>>> you woke up early just to troll us?
>>I wrote that in the evening.
>>I'm really beginning to suspect there is no patent application.
>
> you are a troll.
>
> my time with you is over.

Are you confirming there is no patent application?
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by: Doctor Who - Wed, 21 Dec 2022 13:48 UTC

On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 13:04:34 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
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>> On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 10:50:35 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>>>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 19 Dec 2022 21:25:44 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>>>>>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>>>>>> be patient
>>>>>> I said patent will be published December18 2022
>>>>>Today is 19th December 2022. Where can the patent be viewed?
>>>> you woke up early just to troll us?
>>>I wrote that in the evening.
>>>I'm really beginning to suspect there is no patent application.
>>
>> you are a troll.
>>
>> my time with you is over.
>
>Are you confirming there is no patent application?

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Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

> On Wed, 21 Dec 2022 13:04:34 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>>>>>>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> be patient
>>>>>>> I said patent will be published December18 2022
>>Are you confirming there is no patent application?
>
> NO

When will it be public, since apparently it did not become available on
18th December 2022 as you claim above?
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