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* Re: Switch to PNN to save Hubble telescopeSylvia Else
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Re: Switch to PNN to save Hubble telescope

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 by: Sylvia Else - Thu, 29 Dec 2022 22:20 UTC

On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>
> ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS
>
> https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1
>
> https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
>
>
> We have an operative PNN thruster

No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.

Sylvia.

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 by: Doctor Who - Fri, 30 Dec 2022 09:01 UTC

On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 09:20:40 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
wrote:

>On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>
>> ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS
>>
>> https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1
>>
>> https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
>>
>>
>> We have an operative PNN thruster
>
>No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.
>
>Sylvia.

What a troll !

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 by: Snidely - Fri, 30 Dec 2022 10:09 UTC

pnn calmagorod formulated the question :
> Il giorno giovedì 29 dicembre 2022 alle 23:20:42 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha
> scritto:
>> On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>>
>>> ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE
>>> EMISSION OF REACTION MASS
>>>
>>> https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1
>>>
>>> https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
>>>
>>>
>>> We have an operative PNN thruster
>> No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> With the space shuttle it ended badly. With Artemis it will be worse

Actually, the Space Shuttle's missions with and to Hubble all ended
well.

/dps

--
And the Raiders and the Broncos have life now in the West. I thought
they were both nearly dead if not quite really most sincerely dead. --
Mike Salfino, fivethirtyeight.com

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 by: Doctor Who - Fri, 30 Dec 2022 18:20 UTC

On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 09:20:40 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
wrote:

>On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>
>> ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS
>>
>> https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1
>>
>> https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
>>
>>
>> We have an operative PNN thruster
>
>No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.
>
>Sylvia.

prove it.

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 by: Snidely - Sat, 31 Dec 2022 03:06 UTC

pnn calmagorod presented the following explanation :
> Il giorno venerdì 30 dicembre 2022 alle 11:09:24 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto:
>> pnn calmagorod formulated the question :
>>> Il giorno giovedì 29 dicembre 2022 alle 23:20:42 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha
>>> scritto:
>>>> On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE
>>>>> EMISSION OF REACTION MASS
>>>>>
>>>>> https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We have an operative PNN thruster
>>>> No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.
>>>>
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>>> With the space shuttle it ended badly. With Artemis it will be worse
>> Actually, the Space Shuttle's missions with and to Hubble all ended
>> well.
>>
>> /dps
>>
>> --
>> And the Raiders and the Broncos have life now in the West. I thought
>> they were both nearly dead if not quite really most sincerely dead. --
>> Mike Salfino, fivethirtyeight.com
>
>
> explain us such mistery : why no space shuttle will go to save the
> astronauts here
> https://hackaday.com/2022/12/19/damaged-soyuz-may-leave-crew-without-a-ride-home/
> .... but "probably" space x

No mystery. The Space Shuttle is retired. And since your PNN doesn't
seem suitable for powering a launch system, where thrust/weight must be
greater than 1 for the whole system, I don't see you beating the Soyuz
or Dragon capsules to the rescue.

/dps

--
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future guitar god of the human genome: an allele with undiscovered
virtuosity, currently soloing in obscurity in Mom's garage.
Bradley Wertheim, theAtlantic.com, Jan 10 2013

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 by: Doctor Who - Sat, 31 Dec 2022 09:20 UTC

On Fri, 30 Dec 2022 09:20:40 +1100, Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
wrote:

>On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>
>> ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE EMISSION OF REACTION MASS
>>
>> https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1
>>
>> https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
>>
>>
>> We have an operative PNN thruster
>
>No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.
>
>Sylvia.

Even after the patent publication your donkey's head remains a
donkey's head.

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 by: Otto J. Makela - Sat, 31 Dec 2022 12:16 UTC

Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
>> On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>> We have an operative PNN thruster
>> No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.
>
> prove it.

Sorry, it's the one who makes the claims that has to prove them,
not everyone else to disapprove them.
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 by: Doctor Who - Sat, 31 Dec 2022 12:19 UTC

On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 14:16:33 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>
>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>>> We have an operative PNN thruster
>>> No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.
>>
>> prove it.
>
>Sorry, it's the one who makes the claims that has to prove them,
>not everyone else to disapprove them.

ah, you said there was no patent application, we have proven that you
are a troll.

And, we have proven our PNN Theory with a working prototype.

Happy New Year

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 by: Snidely - Sat, 31 Dec 2022 21:21 UTC

pnn calmagorod asserted that:
> Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 04:06:16 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto:
>> pnn calmagorod presented the following explanation :
>>> Il giorno venerdì 30 dicembre 2022 alle 11:09:24 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto:
>>>> pnn calmagorod formulated the question :
>>>>> Il giorno giovedì 29 dicembre 2022 alle 23:20:42 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha
>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>> On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE
>>>>>>> EMISSION OF REACTION MASS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have an operative PNN thruster
>>>>>> No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>>
>>>>> With the space shuttle it ended badly. With Artemis it will be worse
>>>> Actually, the Space Shuttle's missions with and to Hubble all ended
>>>> well.
>>>>
>>>> /dps
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> And the Raiders and the Broncos have life now in the West. I thought
>>>> they were both nearly dead if not quite really most sincerely dead. --
>>>> Mike Salfino, fivethirtyeight.com
>>>
>>>
>>> explain us such mistery : why no space shuttle will go to save the
>>> astronauts here
>>> https://hackaday.com/2022/12/19/damaged-soyuz-may-leave-crew-without-a-ride-home/
>>> .... but "probably" space x
>> No mystery. The Space Shuttle is retired. And since your PNN doesn't
>> seem suitable for powering a launch system, where thrust/weight must be
>> greater than 1 for the whole system, I don't see you beating the Soyuz
>> or Dragon capsules to the rescue.
>>
>> /dps
>>
>> --
>> Maybe C282Y is simply one of the hangers-on, a groupie following a
>> future guitar god of the human genome: an allele with undiscovered
>> virtuosity, currently soloing in obscurity in Mom's garage.
>> Bradley Wertheim, theAtlantic.com, Jan 10 2013
>
> it is impossible to communicate with you. I have said several times that
> violating the principle of action and reaction also changes the second
> principle of dynamics in a way that I never imagined. Thrust increases over
> time for the same UHF power supplied. As I have seen this for years in
> different experimental situations I now think it is true. Keep believing in
> missiles and you'll never colonize anything

I am waiting to see your launch vehicle.

/dps

--
"Maintaining a really good conspiracy requires far more intelligent
application, by a large number of people, than the world can readily
supply."

Sam Plusnet

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 by: Doctor Who - Sun, 1 Jan 2023 18:51 UTC

On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 14:16:33 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>
>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>>> We have an operative PNN thruster
>>> No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.
>>
>> prove it.
>
>Sorry, it's the one who makes the claims that has to prove them,
>not everyone else to disapprove them.

she made the claim that we haven't a working prototype, prove it.

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 by: Snidely - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 08:35 UTC

Saturday, pnn calmagorod observed:
> Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 22:21:31 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto:
>> pnn calmagorod asserted that:
>>> Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 04:06:16 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto:
>>>> pnn calmagorod presented the following explanation :
>>>>> Il giorno venerdì 30 dicembre 2022 alle 11:09:24 UTC+1 snidely ha
>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>> pnn calmagorod formulated the question :
>>>>>>> Il giorno giovedì 29 dicembre 2022 alle 23:20:42 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha
>>>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>>>> On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE
>>>>>>>>> EMISSION OF REACTION MASS
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We have an operative PNN thruster
>>>>>>>> No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With the space shuttle it ended badly. With Artemis it will be worse
>>>>>> Actually, the Space Shuttle's missions with and to Hubble all ended
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /dps
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> And the Raiders and the Broncos have life now in the West. I thought
>>>>>> they were both nearly dead if not quite really most sincerely dead. --
>>>>>> Mike Salfino, fivethirtyeight.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> explain us such mistery : why no space shuttle will go to save the
>>>>> astronauts here
>>>>> https://hackaday.com/2022/12/19/damaged-soyuz-may-leave-crew-without-a-ride-home/
>>>>> .... but "probably" space x
>>>> No mystery. The Space Shuttle is retired. And since your PNN doesn't
>>>> seem suitable for powering a launch system, where thrust/weight must be
>>>> greater than 1 for the whole system, I don't see you beating the Soyuz
>>>> or Dragon capsules to the rescue.
>>>>
>>>> /dps
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Maybe C282Y is simply one of the hangers-on, a groupie following a
>>>> future guitar god of the human genome: an allele with undiscovered
>>>> virtuosity, currently soloing in obscurity in Mom's garage.
>>>> Bradley Wertheim, theAtlantic.com, Jan 10 2013
>>>
>>> it is impossible to communicate with you. I have said several times that
>>> violating the principle of action and reaction also changes the second
>>> principle of dynamics in a way that I never imagined. Thrust increases over
>>> time for the same UHF power supplied. As I have seen this for years in
>>> different experimental situations I now think it is true. Keep believing in
>>> missiles and you'll never colonize anything
>> I am waiting to see your launch vehicle.
>>
>> /dps
>
> do you have a 10 Kw kilopower for rent?
>
> E.Laureti
>

Not for your thrust to weight needs.

/dps

--
I have always been glad we weren't killed that night. I do not know
any particular reason, but I have always been glad.
_Roughing It_, Mark Twain

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 by: Doctor Who - Mon, 2 Jan 2023 08:41 UTC

On Mon, 02 Jan 2023 00:35:34 -0800, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Saturday, pnn calmagorod observed:
>> Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 22:21:31 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto:
>>> pnn calmagorod asserted that:
>>>> Il giorno sabato 31 dicembre 2022 alle 04:06:16 UTC+1 snidely ha scritto:
>>>>> pnn calmagorod presented the following explanation :
>>>>>> Il giorno venerdì 30 dicembre 2022 alle 11:09:24 UTC+1 snidely ha
>>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>>> pnn calmagorod formulated the question :
>>>>>>>> Il giorno giovedì 29 dicembre 2022 alle 23:20:42 UTC+1 Sylvia Else ha
>>>>>>>> scritto:
>>>>>>>>> On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ELECTROMAGNETIC PROPULSION SYSTEM FOR SPACECRAFT MOVEMENT WITHOUT THE
>>>>>>>>>> EMISSION OF REACTION MASS
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2022264177&_cid=P22-LBYWS8-05338-1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We have an operative PNN thruster
>>>>>>>>> No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sylvia.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With the space shuttle it ended badly. With Artemis it will be worse
>>>>>>> Actually, the Space Shuttle's missions with and to Hubble all ended
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> /dps
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> And the Raiders and the Broncos have life now in the West. I thought
>>>>>>> they were both nearly dead if not quite really most sincerely dead. --
>>>>>>> Mike Salfino, fivethirtyeight.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> explain us such mistery : why no space shuttle will go to save the
>>>>>> astronauts here
>>>>>> https://hackaday.com/2022/12/19/damaged-soyuz-may-leave-crew-without-a-ride-home/
>>>>>> .... but "probably" space x
>>>>> No mystery. The Space Shuttle is retired. And since your PNN doesn't
>>>>> seem suitable for powering a launch system, where thrust/weight must be
>>>>> greater than 1 for the whole system, I don't see you beating the Soyuz
>>>>> or Dragon capsules to the rescue.
>>>>>
>>>>> /dps
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Maybe C282Y is simply one of the hangers-on, a groupie following a
>>>>> future guitar god of the human genome: an allele with undiscovered
>>>>> virtuosity, currently soloing in obscurity in Mom's garage.
>>>>> Bradley Wertheim, theAtlantic.com, Jan 10 2013
>>>>
>>>> it is impossible to communicate with you. I have said several times that
>>>> violating the principle of action and reaction also changes the second
>>>> principle of dynamics in a way that I never imagined. Thrust increases over
>>>> time for the same UHF power supplied. As I have seen this for years in
>>>> different experimental situations I now think it is true. Keep believing in
>>>> missiles and you'll never colonize anything
>>> I am waiting to see your launch vehicle.
>>>
>>> /dps
>>
>> do you have a 10 Kw kilopower for rent?
>>
>> E.Laureti
>>
>
>Not for your thrust to weight needs.
>
>/dps

so shut up!

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Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:

> On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 14:16:33 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>> Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>>>> We have an operative PNN thruster
>>>> No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.
>>> prove it.
>> Sorry, it's the one who makes the claims that has to prove them,
>> not everyone else to disapprove them.
>
> she made the claim that we haven't a working prototype, prove it.

She disputed your claim that you have an operative device — what you
have is a prototype which shows some promise in laboratory conditions.

As I said earlier, this is the step where NASA reviewed the Robert
Shawyer EmDrive, and for a moment even thought it worked. Unfortunately
it was afterwards pretty conclusively shown that the "thrust" produced
was a thermal effect, as the suspicion is also in this case.
--
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 by: Doctor Who - Tue, 3 Jan 2023 09:23 UTC

On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 09:18:26 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 14:16:33 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>>> Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>>>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>>>>> We have an operative PNN thruster
>>>>> No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.
>>>> prove it.
>>> Sorry, it's the one who makes the claims that has to prove them,
>>> not everyone else to disapprove them.
>>
>> she made the claim that we haven't a working prototype, prove it.
>
>She disputed your claim that you have an operative device — what you
>have is a prototype which shows some promise in laboratory conditions.
>
>As I said earlier, this is the step where NASA reviewed the Robert
>Shawyer EmDrive, and for a moment even thought it worked. Unfortunately
>it was afterwards pretty conclusively shown that the "thrust" produced
>was a thermal effect, as the suspicion is also in this case.

bla bla bla

you know where you can put your "suspicions".

washing the donkey's head is a waste of time, water and soap!

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 by: Doctor Who - Tue, 3 Jan 2023 09:24 UTC

On Tue, 03 Jan 2023 09:18:26 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:

>Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 31 Dec 2022 14:16:33 +0200, om@iki.fi (Otto J. Makela) wrote:
>>> Doctor Who <doc@tardis.org> wrote:
>>>> Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> On 30-Dec-22 8:47 am, pnn calmagorod wrote:
>>>>>> We have an operative PNN thruster
>>>>> No you don't. You're either deluded or lying.
>>>> prove it.
>>> Sorry, it's the one who makes the claims that has to prove them,
>>> not everyone else to disapprove them.
>>
>> she made the claim that we haven't a working prototype, prove it.
>
>She disputed your claim that you have an operative device — what you
>have is a prototype which shows some promise in laboratory conditions.
>
>As I said earlier, this is the step where NASA reviewed the Robert
>Shawyer EmDrive, and for a moment even thought it worked. Unfortunately
>it was afterwards pretty conclusively shown that the "thrust" produced
>was a thermal effect, as the suspicion is also in this case.

such suspicions arise in the mind who don't know physics well.

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