That AC had performed at the Bergstrom Airforce Base (AUSTIN, TX) days before this crash. The Vulcan was an impressive if not eerie aircraft to watch fly. My mom had taken one of the flight crew to a store to get cowboy boots while they were in TX.

On 1/27/23 12:12, Doc Dean wrote:
> That AC had performed at the Bergstrom Airforce Base (AUSTIN, TX) days before this crash. The Vulcan was an impressive if not eerie aircraft to watch fly. My mom had taken one of the flight crew to a store to get cowboy boots while they were in TX.
>
Bummer,,, all 4 on board died.
Was that before the movie "Thunderball" ?

 
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Date: 11-AUG-1978
Time:
Type: Silhouette image of generic VULC model; specific model in this
crash may look slightly different
Avro Vulcan B Mk 2
Owner/operator: Royal Air Force (RAF)
Registration: XL390
MSN: 40
Fatalities: Fatalities: 4 / Occupants: 4
Other fatalities: 0
Aircraft damage: Written off (damaged beyond repair)
Location: Northbrook, near NAS Glenview (KNBU), IL - United States of
America
Phase: Manoeuvring (airshow, firefighting, ag.ops.)
Nature: Demo/Airshow/Display
Departure airport: NAS Glenview (KNBU), IL
Destination airport:
Confidence Rating: Information is only available from news, social
media or unofficial sources
Narrative:
Crashed during an air display. The crash occurred after a stall and loss
of control at around 400 ft (120 m), during a wing-over. The plane
crashed into a landfill just north of Willow Road, missing surrounding
residential areas.
Sources:

1. Flight International, 2 May 1981
2. Air Britain: RAF Aircraft XA100 - XZ999, published 2001
3.
https://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/125259-vulcan-xl390-12-august-1978-glenview-nas.html
4. https://pacaeropress.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=2550140
5. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.aviation.military/6c-gcNbYpu4

Images:

Taken from the roof of the transient aircraft facility, NAS Glenview
just a few minutes before the crash.

Revision history:
Date/time Contributor Updates
12-Sep-2008 23:56 angels one five Added
05-May-2009 02:53 angels one five Updated
28-May-2011 04:42 Anon. Updated [Date, Narrative]
23-Aug-2011 12:59 Uli Elch Updated [Operator, Location, Source, Narrative]
18-Jan-2012 09:23 Nepa Updated [Aircraft type, Operator, Source, Narrative]
12-Mar-2012 18:10 Dr. John Smith Updated [Cn, Operator, Departure
airport, Source, Narrative]
12-Apr-2012 01:08 Dr. John Smith Updated [Embed code]
12-Apr-2012 01:09 Dr. John Smith Updated [Embed code]
10-Apr-2013 14:17 Nepa Updated [Operator, Departure airport]
05-Jul-2013 23:54 Dr. John Smith Updated [Location, Source, Narrative]
05-Feb-2014 15:51 TB Updated [Aircraft type, Operator, Location,
Departure airport, Source, Embed code, Narrative]
07-Feb-2014 15:08 theburp Updated [Photo, ]
15-Feb-2022 08:22 angels one five Updated [Narrative]

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On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 17:55:00 -0800, a425couple wrote:

> On 1/27/23 12:12, Doc Dean wrote:
>> That AC had performed at the Bergstrom Airforce Base (AUSTIN, TX) days
>> before this crash. The Vulcan was an impressive if not eerie aircraft
>> to watch fly. My mom had taken one of the flight crew to a store to get
>> cowboy boots while they were in TX.
>>
> Bummer,,, all 4 on board died.
> Was that before the movie "Thunderball" ?

About 15 or so years after.

I've seen a Vulcan perform. The low speed handling is absolutely amazing.
It's almost eerie, seeing something that big not only going that slow, but
maneuvering at those speeds.

--
Peter Stickney
Java Man knew nothing about coffee

"Peter Stickney" wrote in message news:tr3rip$2bg04$1@dont-email.me...

On Fri, 27 Jan 2023 17:55:00 -0800, a425couple wrote:

> On 1/27/23 12:12, Doc Dean wrote:
>> That AC had performed at the Bergstrom Airforce Base (AUSTIN, TX) days
>> before this crash. The Vulcan was an impressive if not eerie aircraft
>> to watch fly. My mom had taken one of the flight crew to a store to get
>> cowboy boots while they were in TX.
>>
> Bummer,,, all 4 on board died.
> Was that before the movie "Thunderball" ?

About 15 or so years after.

I've seen a Vulcan perform. The low speed handling is absolutely amazing.
It's almost eerie, seeing something that big not only going that slow, but
maneuvering at those speeds.

---------------------------
https://vintageaviationecho.com/vulcan-xh558/

--
Peter Stickney
Java Man knew nothing about coffee

On 28/01/2023 22:50, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> "Peter Stickney"  wrote in message news:tr3rip$2bg04$1@dont-email.me...

>
> About 15 or so years after.
>
> I've seen a Vulcan perform.  The low speed handling is absolutely amazing.
> It's almost eerie, seeing something that big not only going that slow,
> but maneuvering at those speeds.
>

I went to the International Air Tatoo at RAF Fairford in 1997 which was
a classic Heavy aircraft show featuring the B-52H, the Vulcan. the B-2
Spirit, Panavia Tornado, Comcorde, Lockheed P-3 Orion, F-111, A-10,
Hercules. Nimrof, C-141 Starlifter and Handley Page HP-80 Victor

The Victor looks like something out of Buck Rodgers movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLHqkYdd4zQ

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message news:tr5vn5$2q0ea$1@dont-email.me...

On 28/01/2023 22:50, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> "Peter Stickney" wrote in message news:tr3rip$2bg04$1@dont-email.me...

>
> About 15 or so years after.
>
> I've seen a Vulcan perform. The low speed handling is absolutely amazing.
> It's almost eerie, seeing something that big not only going that slow, but
> maneuvering at those speeds.
>

I went to the International Air Tatoo at RAF Fairford in 1997 which was
a classic Heavy aircraft show featuring the B-52H, the Vulcan. the B-2
Spirit, Panavia Tornado, Comcorde, Lockheed P-3 Orion, F-111, A-10,
Hercules. Nimrof, C-141 Starlifter and Handley Page HP-80 Victor

The Victor looks like something out of Buck Rodgers movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLHqkYdd4zQ

--------
It certainly does, and there are others:
https://hushkit.net/2019/12/31/top-10-cancelled-british-fighters/

On 29/01/2023 22:27, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> "Keith Willshaw"  wrote in message news:tr5vn5$2q0ea$1@dont-email.me...
>

>
> I went to the International Air Tatoo at RAF Fairford in 1997 which was
> a classic Heavy aircraft show featuring the B-52H, the Vulcan. the B-2
> Spirit, Panavia Tornado, Comcorde, Lockheed P-3 Orion, F-111, A-10,
> Hercules. Nimrof, C-141 Starlifter and Handley Page HP-80 Victor
>
> The Victor looks like something out of Buck Rodgers movie
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLHqkYdd4zQ
>
> --------
> It certainly does, and there are others:
> https://hushkit.net/2019/12/31/top-10-cancelled-british-fighters/
>

The problem with the British military aviation industry at time was that
there too many companies in a small market not helped by the fact that
Minister of Defense was convinced that manned aircraft were obsolete and
could be replaced by guided missiles.

"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message news:tr8ns4$3bahl$1@dont-email.me...

On 29/01/2023 22:27, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> "Keith Willshaw" wrote in message news:tr5vn5$2q0ea$1@dont-email.me...
>

>
> I went to the International Air Tatoo at RAF Fairford in 1997 which was
> a classic Heavy aircraft show featuring the B-52H, the Vulcan. the B-2
> Spirit, Panavia Tornado, Comcorde, Lockheed P-3 Orion, F-111, A-10,
> Hercules. Nimrof, C-141 Starlifter and Handley Page HP-80 Victor
>
> The Victor looks like something out of Buck Rodgers movie
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLHqkYdd4zQ
>
> --------
> It certainly does, and there are others:
> https://hushkit.net/2019/12/31/top-10-cancelled-british-fighters/
>

The problem with the British military aviation industry at time was that
there too many companies in a small market not helped by the fact that
Minister of Defense was convinced that manned aircraft were obsolete and
could be replaced by guided missiles.

------------------------

The TSR-2 and Avro Arrow weren't the most promising aircraft that got axed:
https://www.historynet.com/north-american-xf-108-rapier-shot-down-before-it-got-off-the-ground/

The comparable A-5 survived but it and the YF-12 were recycled to
reconnaissance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_A-5_Vigilante
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_YF-12