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* Re: NASA Wants To Beam Vital Human Info to Aliens - BAD Idea !Barry Schwarz
`* Re: NASA Wants To Beam Vital Human Info to Aliens - BAD Idea !Daniel65
 `* Re: NASA Wants To Beam Vital Human Info to Aliens - BAD Idea !R Kym Horsell
  `- Re: NASA Wants To Beam Vital Human Info to Aliens - BAD Idea !R Kym Horsell

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Subject: Re: NASA Wants To Beam Vital Human Info to Aliens - BAD Idea !
From: Barry Schwarz
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Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:28 UTC
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From: schwa...@delq.com (Barry Schwarz)
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Subject: Re: NASA Wants To Beam Vital Human Info to Aliens - BAD Idea !
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:05:49 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote on 28/4/22 3:26 am:
casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote on 26/4/22 6:39 am:
I don't subscribe to wormholes and other fictitious crap that have
never been observed or substantiated.

Ah!! Well, there you go! Can't possible happen cause casagiannoni says
so!! ;-P

I didn't exactly say anything couldn't happen, only that not yet
"observed or substantiated" .

Big difference.

"other fictitious crap"?? Ah!! So you think it is still a possibility!
RIGHT!!

Perhaps you can enlighten us with the correct nomenclature for an idea
which has never been observed, is the product of wild speculation or
wishful thinking, and for which there is no grounded theory describing
how the idea could actually exist or how it might be observed.

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Subject: Re: NASA Wants To Beam Vital Human Info to Aliens - BAD Idea !
From: Daniel65
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Barry Schwarz wrote on 29/4/22 3:28 am:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:05:49 +1000, Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote on 28/4/22 3:26 am:
casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote on 26/4/22 6:39 am:
I don't subscribe to wormholes and other fictitious crap that
have never been observed or substantiated.

Ah!! Well, there you go! Can't possible happen cause
casagiannoni says so!! ;-P

I didn't exactly say anything couldn't happen, only that not yet "observed or substantiated" .

Big difference.

"other fictitious crap"?? Ah!! So you think it is still a
possibility! RIGHT!!

Perhaps you can enlighten us with the correct nomenclature for an
idea which has never been observed, is the product of wild
speculation or wishful thinking, and for which there is no grounded
theory describing how the idea could actually exist or how it might
be observed.

Something that could happen/occur but hasn't been seen/detected yet!!

"possibility" or "probability" might fit the bill!!

I'm sure you would have others that might fit the bill!
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Daniel


Subject: Re: NASA Wants To Beam Vital Human Info to Aliens - BAD Idea !
From: R Kym Horsell
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Newsgroups: alt.astronomy
Subject: Re: NASA Wants To Beam Vital Human Info to Aliens - BAD Idea !
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2022 11:05:44 -0000 (UTC)
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Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
Barry Schwarz wrote on 29/4/22 3:28 am:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 19:05:49 +1000, Daniel65
<daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote on 28/4/22 3:26 am:
casagiannoni@optimum.net wrote on 26/4/22 6:39 am:
I don't subscribe to wormholes and other fictitious crap that
have never been observed or substantiated.
Ah!! Well, there you go! Can't possible happen cause
casagiannoni says so!! ;-P
I didn't exactly say anything couldn't happen, only that not yet
"observed or substantiated" .
Big difference.
"other fictitious crap"?? Ah!! So you think it is still a
possibility! RIGHT!!
Perhaps you can enlighten us with the correct nomenclature for an
idea which has never been observed, is the product of wild
speculation or wishful thinking, and for which there is no grounded
theory describing how the idea could actually exist or how it might
be observed.
Something that could happen/occur but hasn't been seen/detected yet!!
"possibility" or "probability" might fit the bill!!
I'm sure you would have others that might fit the bill!

"has never been observed" is another key phrase that tips you off
to an argument from ignorance -- a basic logical fallacy.

It's truly a pity that modern skeptics dont know how to go about
their craft without falling into a trap they should have learned about
in middle school English class. Tsk tsk tsk. :)

The problem with cantalini and the cow guy is wormholes are a
well-checked possible solution to GR equations.  If you reject them
then you essentially reject Relativity that has an enormous amount of
experimental evidence to support it.

The mathematics of wormholes is extremely similar to the detailed
math for quantum entanglement -- the phenomenon that allows e.g. 2
particles to be connected via some invisible thread such that
something that affects one of the paticles "instantaneously" affects
the other one.

Engtanglement, again, has a huge amount of experimental evidence to support it.
A growing cadre of devices relies on it working the way physicists expect.

There is also a growing cadre of physicists that suspect the 2 things
are the same phenomenon. IOW we have observed wormholes but have not
realized what it was we were looking at.



Subject: Re: NASA Wants To Beam Vital Human Info to Aliens - BAD Idea !
From: R Kym Horsell
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Subject: Re: NASA Wants To Beam Vital Human Info to Aliens - BAD Idea !
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2022 11:53:48 -0000 (UTC)
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R Kym Horsell <kym@kymhorsell.com> wrote:
Daniel65 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

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