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Although this is a chain, it seems like every one of them I go into there is some moronic child running the place.

This was so bad in the bay area where they were handling Trek that Trek opened factory stores where they had proper mechanics.

Yesterday I was in Pleasanton on a 40 mile ride and the rubber rubbed off of my sidewall from the flat the other day began bothering me so I went off to Mikes Bikes to buy some tires.

Alameda County Supervisors, those people with the superior medical knowledge have decided that you have to wear masks everywhere again. Why? Who the hell knows. (https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article) The Delta Variant has NO measurable effect and that comes directly from the CDC statistics if you know how to seek them out and read them. Anyone with half a brain should know that wearing a mask into a restaurant and then sitting down and removing it confers NO magic protection from the mask since covid-19 is an aerosol and is spread simply by breathing and the particulate size is 200 times smaller than that of the breathing pores of even an N95 mask.

In any case I went into Mike's Bikes not wearing a mask and they almost jumped out of their pants with fear. Get this - four people who have all been vaccinated are afraid of someone not wearing a mask. Exactly how would you suppose that would work?

Well, the 20 year old or younger manager told me if I wouldn't wear a mask they wouldn't sell me anything. So I came home and ordered the tires and tubes on-line for a fraction of what it would have cost me in their store and paid $140 or so.

Now this is more than they are making on the sorts of bikes that they can actually stock these days. So these morons were so stupid they were more than willing to turn down a large sale for exactly what reason? Because I wasn't willing to conform. And no other reason. This doesn't bode well for Mike's Bikes if they continue to hire people that no doubt have a college education that they have to pay off.

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 by: Lou Holtman - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 17:56 UTC

On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 7:27:37 PM UTC+2, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> Although this is a chain, it seems like every one of them I go into there is some moronic child running the place.
>
> This was so bad in the bay area where they were handling Trek that Trek opened factory stores where they had proper mechanics.
>
> Yesterday I was in Pleasanton on a 40 mile ride and the rubber rubbed off of my sidewall from the flat the other day began bothering me so I went off to Mikes Bikes to buy some tires.
>
> Alameda County Supervisors, those people with the superior medical knowledge have decided that you have to wear masks everywhere again. Why? Who the hell knows. (https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article) The Delta Variant has NO measurable effect and that comes directly from the CDC statistics if you know how to seek them out and read them. Anyone with half a brain should know that wearing a mask into a restaurant and then sitting down and removing it confers NO magic protection from the mask since covid-19 is an aerosol and is spread simply by breathing and the particulate size is 200 times smaller than that of the breathing pores of even an N95 mask..
>
> In any case I went into Mike's Bikes not wearing a mask and they almost jumped out of their pants with fear. Get this - four people who have all been vaccinated are afraid of someone not wearing a mask. Exactly how would you suppose that would work?
>
> Well, the 20 year old or younger manager told me if I wouldn't wear a mask they wouldn't sell me anything. So I came home and ordered the tires and tubes on-line for a fraction of what it would have cost me in their store and paid $140 or so.
>
> Now this is more than they are making on the sorts of bikes that they can actually stock these days. So these morons were so stupid they were more than willing to turn down a large sale for exactly what reason? Because I wasn't willing to conform. And no other reason. This doesn't bode well for Mike's Bikes if they continue to hire people that no doubt have a college education that they have to pay off.

Had a haircut this morning. At the door I asked 'what is the deal currently?'. The barber (old high school friend) said 'I cut your hair and you pay after that'. End of discussion. If he had said 'you have to wear a mask' I would have said 'OK' also end of discussion.

Lou

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On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 10:56:47 AM UTC-7, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 7:27:37 PM UTC+2, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Although this is a chain, it seems like every one of them I go into there is some moronic child running the place.
> >
> > This was so bad in the bay area where they were handling Trek that Trek opened factory stores where they had proper mechanics.
> >
> > Yesterday I was in Pleasanton on a 40 mile ride and the rubber rubbed off of my sidewall from the flat the other day began bothering me so I went off to Mikes Bikes to buy some tires.
> >
> > Alameda County Supervisors, those people with the superior medical knowledge have decided that you have to wear masks everywhere again. Why? Who the hell knows. (https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article) The Delta Variant has NO measurable effect and that comes directly from the CDC statistics if you know how to seek them out and read them. Anyone with half a brain should know that wearing a mask into a restaurant and then sitting down and removing it confers NO magic protection from the mask since covid-19 is an aerosol and is spread simply by breathing and the particulate size is 200 times smaller than that of the breathing pores of even an N95 mask.
> >
> > In any case I went into Mike's Bikes not wearing a mask and they almost jumped out of their pants with fear. Get this - four people who have all been vaccinated are afraid of someone not wearing a mask. Exactly how would you suppose that would work?
> >
> > Well, the 20 year old or younger manager told me if I wouldn't wear a mask they wouldn't sell me anything. So I came home and ordered the tires and tubes on-line for a fraction of what it would have cost me in their store and paid $140 or so.
> >
> > Now this is more than they are making on the sorts of bikes that they can actually stock these days. So these morons were so stupid they were more than willing to turn down a large sale for exactly what reason? Because I wasn't willing to conform. And no other reason. This doesn't bode well for Mike's Bikes if they continue to hire people that no doubt have a college education that they have to pay off.
> Had a haircut this morning. At the door I asked 'what is the deal currently?'. The barber (old high school friend) said 'I cut your hair and you pay after that'. End of discussion. If he had said 'you have to wear a mask' I would have said 'OK' also end of discussion.

How do you have the hair on your nose or a mustache trimmed if you're wearing a mask? Or are you still too young to be having hair growing every place but on top of your head?

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 by: Tom Kunich - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 18:32 UTC

On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 10:56:47 AM UTC-7, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 7:27:37 PM UTC+2, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Although this is a chain, it seems like every one of them I go into there is some moronic child running the place.
> >
> > This was so bad in the bay area where they were handling Trek that Trek opened factory stores where they had proper mechanics.
> >
> > Yesterday I was in Pleasanton on a 40 mile ride and the rubber rubbed off of my sidewall from the flat the other day began bothering me so I went off to Mikes Bikes to buy some tires.
> >
> > Alameda County Supervisors, those people with the superior medical knowledge have decided that you have to wear masks everywhere again. Why? Who the hell knows. (https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article) The Delta Variant has NO measurable effect and that comes directly from the CDC statistics if you know how to seek them out and read them. Anyone with half a brain should know that wearing a mask into a restaurant and then sitting down and removing it confers NO magic protection from the mask since covid-19 is an aerosol and is spread simply by breathing and the particulate size is 200 times smaller than that of the breathing pores of even an N95 mask.
> >
> > In any case I went into Mike's Bikes not wearing a mask and they almost jumped out of their pants with fear. Get this - four people who have all been vaccinated are afraid of someone not wearing a mask. Exactly how would you suppose that would work?
> >
> > Well, the 20 year old or younger manager told me if I wouldn't wear a mask they wouldn't sell me anything. So I came home and ordered the tires and tubes on-line for a fraction of what it would have cost me in their store and paid $140 or so.
> >
> > Now this is more than they are making on the sorts of bikes that they can actually stock these days. So these morons were so stupid they were more than willing to turn down a large sale for exactly what reason? Because I wasn't willing to conform. And no other reason. This doesn't bode well for Mike's Bikes if they continue to hire people that no doubt have a college education that they have to pay off.
> Had a haircut this morning. At the door I asked 'what is the deal currently?'. The barber (old high school friend) said 'I cut your hair and you pay after that'. End of discussion. If he had said 'you have to wear a mask' I would have said 'OK' also end of discussion.

I should add that here in California San Francisco Bay area, there is absolutely NO NEED for masks, totally aside from CDC papers (abstract - “evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures (masks, social distancing and frequent hand washing) did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory -confirmed influenza.”

Page three: “our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory – confirmed influenza”

Page four: “face masks have not demonstrated protection against laboratory-confirmed influenza”

Also a paper by Dr. Jim Meehan MD”

Covid 19 is about viral transmission. Surgical and cloth masks do nothing to prevent viral transmission”) but we have a younger generation that absolutely loves the idea of being enslaved.

There is a simple cure for this: reinstitute the draft so that these same children will have their own lives on the line as the Democrats start war after war after war. When it is their own butts on the line perhaps civil rights will be more important.

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 by: jbeattie - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 19:02 UTC

On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 11:32:55 AM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 10:56:47 AM UTC-7, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 7:27:37 PM UTC+2, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Although this is a chain, it seems like every one of them I go into there is some moronic child running the place.
> > >
> > > This was so bad in the bay area where they were handling Trek that Trek opened factory stores where they had proper mechanics.
> > >
> > > Yesterday I was in Pleasanton on a 40 mile ride and the rubber rubbed off of my sidewall from the flat the other day began bothering me so I went off to Mikes Bikes to buy some tires.
> > >
> > > Alameda County Supervisors, those people with the superior medical knowledge have decided that you have to wear masks everywhere again. Why? Who the hell knows. (https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article) The Delta Variant has NO measurable effect and that comes directly from the CDC statistics if you know how to seek them out and read them. Anyone with half a brain should know that wearing a mask into a restaurant and then sitting down and removing it confers NO magic protection from the mask since covid-19 is an aerosol and is spread simply by breathing and the particulate size is 200 times smaller than that of the breathing pores of even an N95 mask.
> > >
> > > In any case I went into Mike's Bikes not wearing a mask and they almost jumped out of their pants with fear. Get this - four people who have all been vaccinated are afraid of someone not wearing a mask. Exactly how would you suppose that would work?
> > >
> > > Well, the 20 year old or younger manager told me if I wouldn't wear a mask they wouldn't sell me anything. So I came home and ordered the tires and tubes on-line for a fraction of what it would have cost me in their store and paid $140 or so.
> > >
> > > Now this is more than they are making on the sorts of bikes that they can actually stock these days. So these morons were so stupid they were more than willing to turn down a large sale for exactly what reason? Because I wasn't willing to conform. And no other reason. This doesn't bode well for Mike's Bikes if they continue to hire people that no doubt have a college education that they have to pay off.
> > Had a haircut this morning. At the door I asked 'what is the deal currently?'. The barber (old high school friend) said 'I cut your hair and you pay after that'. End of discussion. If he had said 'you have to wear a mask' I would have said 'OK' also end of discussion.
> I should add that here in California San Francisco Bay area, there is absolutely NO NEED for masks, totally aside from CDC papers (abstract - “evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures (masks, social distancing and frequent hand washing) did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory -confirmed influenza.”
>
> Page three: “our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory – confirmed influenza”
>
> Page four: “face masks have not demonstrated protection against laboratory-confirmed influenza”
>
> Also a paper by Dr. Jim Meehan MD”
>
> Covid 19 is about viral transmission. Surgical and cloth masks do nothing to prevent viral transmission”) but we have a younger generation that absolutely loves the idea of being enslaved.
>
> There is a simple cure for this: reinstitute the draft so that these same children will have their own lives on the line as the Democrats start war after war after war. When it is their own butts on the line perhaps civil rights will be more important.

If the sign says "no shoes, no shirt, no service" do you march in shirtless and demand service? It's a f****** private business. It can make you take off your shoes, like my local Japanese restaurant. If you don't want to wear a mask, go elsewhere -- like the Alt-Right Lunatic Bike Shop that has bikes with My Pillow saddles. BTW, the medical community disagrees with you. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776536

-- Jay Beattie.

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 by: Tom Kunich - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 19:40 UTC

On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 12:02:53 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 11:32:55 AM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 10:56:47 AM UTC-7, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 7:27:37 PM UTC+2, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > Although this is a chain, it seems like every one of them I go into there is some moronic child running the place.
> > > >
> > > > This was so bad in the bay area where they were handling Trek that Trek opened factory stores where they had proper mechanics.
> > > >
> > > > Yesterday I was in Pleasanton on a 40 mile ride and the rubber rubbed off of my sidewall from the flat the other day began bothering me so I went off to Mikes Bikes to buy some tires.
> > > >
> > > > Alameda County Supervisors, those people with the superior medical knowledge have decided that you have to wear masks everywhere again. Why? Who the hell knows. (https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article) The Delta Variant has NO measurable effect and that comes directly from the CDC statistics if you know how to seek them out and read them. Anyone with half a brain should know that wearing a mask into a restaurant and then sitting down and removing it confers NO magic protection from the mask since covid-19 is an aerosol and is spread simply by breathing and the particulate size is 200 times smaller than that of the breathing pores of even an N95 mask.
> > > >
> > > > In any case I went into Mike's Bikes not wearing a mask and they almost jumped out of their pants with fear. Get this - four people who have all been vaccinated are afraid of someone not wearing a mask. Exactly how would you suppose that would work?
> > > >
> > > > Well, the 20 year old or younger manager told me if I wouldn't wear a mask they wouldn't sell me anything. So I came home and ordered the tires and tubes on-line for a fraction of what it would have cost me in their store and paid $140 or so.
> > > >
> > > > Now this is more than they are making on the sorts of bikes that they can actually stock these days. So these morons were so stupid they were more than willing to turn down a large sale for exactly what reason? Because I wasn't willing to conform. And no other reason. This doesn't bode well for Mike's Bikes if they continue to hire people that no doubt have a college education that they have to pay off.
> > > Had a haircut this morning. At the door I asked 'what is the deal currently?'. The barber (old high school friend) said 'I cut your hair and you pay after that'. End of discussion. If he had said 'you have to wear a mask' I would have said 'OK' also end of discussion.
> > I should add that here in California San Francisco Bay area, there is absolutely NO NEED for masks, totally aside from CDC papers (abstract - “evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures (masks, social distancing and frequent hand washing) did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory -confirmed influenza.”
> >
> > Page three: “our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory – confirmed influenza”
> >
> > Page four: “face masks have not demonstrated protection against laboratory-confirmed influenza”
> >
> > Also a paper by Dr. Jim Meehan MD”
> >
> > Covid 19 is about viral transmission. Surgical and cloth masks do nothing to prevent viral transmission”) but we have a younger generation that absolutely loves the idea of being enslaved.
> >
> > There is a simple cure for this: reinstitute the draft so that these same children will have their own lives on the line as the Democrats start war after war after war. When it is their own butts on the line perhaps civil rights will be more important.
> If the sign says "no shoes, no shirt, no service" do you march in shirtless and demand service? It's a f****** private business. It can make you take off your shoes, like my local Japanese restaurant. If you don't want to wear a mask, go elsewhere -- like the Alt-Right Lunatic Bike Shop that has bikes with My Pillow saddles. BTW, the medical community disagrees with you. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776536

Civil Rights act of 1964. You MAY NOT discriminate against anyone for reasons of race, sex, age or medical conditions. This offered these shop people no personal danger since they were vaccinated so this was nothing more than illegal discrimination.

What does this have to do with wearing a shirt or not?

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On 9/3/2021 2:40 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 12:02:53 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
>> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 11:32:55 AM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 10:56:47 AM UTC-7, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 7:27:37 PM UTC+2, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Although this is a chain, it seems like every one of them I go into there is some moronic child running the place.
>>>>>
>>>>> This was so bad in the bay area where they were handling Trek that Trek opened factory stores where they had proper mechanics.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday I was in Pleasanton on a 40 mile ride and the rubber rubbed off of my sidewall from the flat the other day began bothering me so I went off to Mikes Bikes to buy some tires.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alameda County Supervisors, those people with the superior medical knowledge have decided that you have to wear masks everywhere again. Why? Who the hell knows. (https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article) The Delta Variant has NO measurable effect and that comes directly from the CDC statistics if you know how to seek them out and read them. Anyone with half a brain should know that wearing a mask into a restaurant and then sitting down and removing it confers NO magic protection from the mask since covid-19 is an aerosol and is spread simply by breathing and the particulate size is 200 times smaller than that of the breathing pores of even an N95 mask.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any case I went into Mike's Bikes not wearing a mask and they almost jumped out of their pants with fear. Get this - four people who have all been vaccinated are afraid of someone not wearing a mask. Exactly how would you suppose that would work?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, the 20 year old or younger manager told me if I wouldn't wear a mask they wouldn't sell me anything. So I came home and ordered the tires and tubes on-line for a fraction of what it would have cost me in their store and paid $140 or so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now this is more than they are making on the sorts of bikes that they can actually stock these days. So these morons were so stupid they were more than willing to turn down a large sale for exactly what reason? Because I wasn't willing to conform. And no other reason. This doesn't bode well for Mike's Bikes if they continue to hire people that no doubt have a college education that they have to pay off.
>>>> Had a haircut this morning. At the door I asked 'what is the deal currently?'. The barber (old high school friend) said 'I cut your hair and you pay after that'. End of discussion. If he had said 'you have to wear a mask' I would have said 'OK' also end of discussion.
>>> I should add that here in California San Francisco Bay area, there is absolutely NO NEED for masks, totally aside from CDC papers (abstract - “evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures (masks, social distancing and frequent hand washing) did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory -confirmed influenza.”
>>>
>>> Page three: “our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory – confirmed influenza”
>>>
>>> Page four: “face masks have not demonstrated protection against laboratory-confirmed influenza”
>>>
>>> Also a paper by Dr. Jim Meehan MD”
>>>
>>> Covid 19 is about viral transmission. Surgical and cloth masks do nothing to prevent viral transmission”) but we have a younger generation that absolutely loves the idea of being enslaved.
>>>
>>> There is a simple cure for this: reinstitute the draft so that these same children will have their own lives on the line as the Democrats start war after war after war. When it is their own butts on the line perhaps civil rights will be more important.
>> If the sign says "no shoes, no shirt, no service" do you march in shirtless and demand service? It's a f****** private business. It can make you take off your shoes, like my local Japanese restaurant. If you don't want to wear a mask, go elsewhere -- like the Alt-Right Lunatic Bike Shop that has bikes with My Pillow saddles. BTW, the medical community disagrees with you. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776536
>
> Civil Rights act of 1964. You MAY NOT discriminate against anyone for reasons of race, sex, age or medical conditions. This offered these shop people no personal danger since they were vaccinated so this was nothing more than illegal discrimination.
>
> What does this have to do with wearing a shirt or not?
>

1964 Civil Rights Act?
You missed an opportunity to self-identify as Rachel Dolezal
and sue them for racial discrimination. Million dollar lawsuit!

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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 by: Frank Krygowski - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 20:09 UTC

On 9/3/2021 3:02 PM, jbeattie wrote:
> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 11:32:55 AM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 10:56:47 AM UTC-7, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 7:27:37 PM UTC+2, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> Although this is a chain, it seems like every one of them I go into there is some moronic child running the place.
>>>>
>>>> This was so bad in the bay area where they were handling Trek that Trek opened factory stores where they had proper mechanics.
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday I was in Pleasanton on a 40 mile ride and the rubber rubbed off of my sidewall from the flat the other day began bothering me so I went off to Mikes Bikes to buy some tires.
>>>>
>>>> Alameda County Supervisors, those people with the superior medical knowledge have decided that you have to wear masks everywhere again. Why? Who the hell knows. (https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article) The Delta Variant has NO measurable effect and that comes directly from the CDC statistics if you know how to seek them out and read them. Anyone with half a brain should know that wearing a mask into a restaurant and then sitting down and removing it confers NO magic protection from the mask since covid-19 is an aerosol and is spread simply by breathing and the particulate size is 200 times smaller than that of the breathing pores of even an N95 mask.
>>>>
>>>> In any case I went into Mike's Bikes not wearing a mask and they almost jumped out of their pants with fear. Get this - four people who have all been vaccinated are afraid of someone not wearing a mask. Exactly how would you suppose that would work?
>>>>
>>>> Well, the 20 year old or younger manager told me if I wouldn't wear a mask they wouldn't sell me anything. So I came home and ordered the tires and tubes on-line for a fraction of what it would have cost me in their store and paid $140 or so.
>>>>
>>>> Now this is more than they are making on the sorts of bikes that they can actually stock these days. So these morons were so stupid they were more than willing to turn down a large sale for exactly what reason? Because I wasn't willing to conform. And no other reason. This doesn't bode well for Mike's Bikes if they continue to hire people that no doubt have a college education that they have to pay off.
>>> Had a haircut this morning. At the door I asked 'what is the deal currently?'. The barber (old high school friend) said 'I cut your hair and you pay after that'. End of discussion. If he had said 'you have to wear a mask' I would have said 'OK' also end of discussion.
>> I should add that here in California San Francisco Bay area, there is absolutely NO NEED for masks, totally aside from CDC papers (abstract - “evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures (masks, social distancing and frequent hand washing) did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory -confirmed influenza.”
>>
>> Page three: “our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory – confirmed influenza”
>>
>> Page four: “face masks have not demonstrated protection against laboratory-confirmed influenza”
>>
>> Also a paper by Dr. Jim Meehan MD”
>>
>> Covid 19 is about viral transmission. Surgical and cloth masks do nothing to prevent viral transmission”) but we have a younger generation that absolutely loves the idea of being enslaved.
>>
>> There is a simple cure for this: reinstitute the draft so that these same children will have their own lives on the line as the Democrats start war after war after war. When it is their own butts on the line perhaps civil rights will be more important.
>
> If the sign says "no shoes, no shirt, no service" do you march in shirtless and demand service? It's a f****** private business. It can make you take off your shoes, like my local Japanese restaurant. If you don't want to wear a mask, go elsewhere -- like the Alt-Right Lunatic Bike Shop that has bikes with My Pillow saddles. BTW, the medical community disagrees with you. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776536

We've had the "pleasure" of being in four different medical facilities
in the past two weeks. (Fortunately, nothing was serious - so far.)
Every one of them demanded masks, even for people sitting in waiting
rooms. It was beyond "No shirt, no shoes, no service." It was "No mask,
no entry," sometimes with a security guard to enforce it.

The only objection was from a young punk at the ER, apparently on some
"work release" program. His guard had to tell him to pull his mask back up.

Those in charge of these facilities seem unaware of Tom's wisdom.

--
- Frank Krygowski

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 by: Tom Kunich - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 20:23 UTC

On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 12:02:53 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 11:32:55 AM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 10:56:47 AM UTC-7, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 7:27:37 PM UTC+2, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > Although this is a chain, it seems like every one of them I go into there is some moronic child running the place.
> > > >
> > > > This was so bad in the bay area where they were handling Trek that Trek opened factory stores where they had proper mechanics.
> > > >
> > > > Yesterday I was in Pleasanton on a 40 mile ride and the rubber rubbed off of my sidewall from the flat the other day began bothering me so I went off to Mikes Bikes to buy some tires.
> > > >
> > > > Alameda County Supervisors, those people with the superior medical knowledge have decided that you have to wear masks everywhere again. Why? Who the hell knows. (https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article) The Delta Variant has NO measurable effect and that comes directly from the CDC statistics if you know how to seek them out and read them. Anyone with half a brain should know that wearing a mask into a restaurant and then sitting down and removing it confers NO magic protection from the mask since covid-19 is an aerosol and is spread simply by breathing and the particulate size is 200 times smaller than that of the breathing pores of even an N95 mask.
> > > >
> > > > In any case I went into Mike's Bikes not wearing a mask and they almost jumped out of their pants with fear. Get this - four people who have all been vaccinated are afraid of someone not wearing a mask. Exactly how would you suppose that would work?
> > > >
> > > > Well, the 20 year old or younger manager told me if I wouldn't wear a mask they wouldn't sell me anything. So I came home and ordered the tires and tubes on-line for a fraction of what it would have cost me in their store and paid $140 or so.
> > > >
> > > > Now this is more than they are making on the sorts of bikes that they can actually stock these days. So these morons were so stupid they were more than willing to turn down a large sale for exactly what reason? Because I wasn't willing to conform. And no other reason. This doesn't bode well for Mike's Bikes if they continue to hire people that no doubt have a college education that they have to pay off.
> > > Had a haircut this morning. At the door I asked 'what is the deal currently?'. The barber (old high school friend) said 'I cut your hair and you pay after that'. End of discussion. If he had said 'you have to wear a mask' I would have said 'OK' also end of discussion.
> > I should add that here in California San Francisco Bay area, there is absolutely NO NEED for masks, totally aside from CDC papers (abstract - “evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures (masks, social distancing and frequent hand washing) did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory -confirmed influenza.”
> >
> > Page three: “our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory – confirmed influenza”
> >
> > Page four: “face masks have not demonstrated protection against laboratory-confirmed influenza”
> >
> > Also a paper by Dr. Jim Meehan MD”
> >
> > Covid 19 is about viral transmission. Surgical and cloth masks do nothing to prevent viral transmission”) but we have a younger generation that absolutely loves the idea of being enslaved.
> >
> > There is a simple cure for this: reinstitute the draft so that these same children will have their own lives on the line as the Democrats start war after war after war. When it is their own butts on the line perhaps civil rights will be more important.
> If the sign says "no shoes, no shirt, no service" do you march in shirtless and demand service? It's a f****** private business. It can make you take off your shoes, like my local Japanese restaurant. If you don't want to wear a mask, go elsewhere -- like the Alt-Right Lunatic Bike Shop that has bikes with My Pillow saddles. BTW, the medical community disagrees with you. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776536

So, it is your opinion that some "medical community" (which is a complete bullshit term) disagrees with the CDC (and not me as you intended to use as some sort of sword) I gave you the citations and I will also tell you that a corona virus is 200 times smaller than the breathing pores in an N95 mask with is the best. What's more, corona virus illnesses are spread via AEROSOLS - these are essentially the single virus particles that float in the air like a cloud. Anyone and everyone that walks through that cloud is exposed. The major cause of spread is NOT coughing up flehm or sneezing snot into the air which falls immediately to the floor in any case. If you can breath through a mask, you could spread the illness IF you have an active case.

Stop your bullshitting about things that you know not one fucking thing about. I worked in this stuff and you didn't. You don't have to believe me one bit but you HAVE to believe the CDC because they and not some medical group that theorizes. The CDC has actual long term studies to back up their statements.

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 by: Tom Kunich - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 20:27 UTC

On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 1:09:50 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 9/3/2021 3:02 PM, jbeattie wrote:
> > On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 11:32:55 AM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 10:56:47 AM UTC-7, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 7:27:37 PM UTC+2, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Although this is a chain, it seems like every one of them I go into there is some moronic child running the place.
> >>>>
> >>>> This was so bad in the bay area where they were handling Trek that Trek opened factory stores where they had proper mechanics.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yesterday I was in Pleasanton on a 40 mile ride and the rubber rubbed off of my sidewall from the flat the other day began bothering me so I went off to Mikes Bikes to buy some tires.
> >>>>
> >>>> Alameda County Supervisors, those people with the superior medical knowledge have decided that you have to wear masks everywhere again. Why? Who the hell knows. (https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article) The Delta Variant has NO measurable effect and that comes directly from the CDC statistics if you know how to seek them out and read them. Anyone with half a brain should know that wearing a mask into a restaurant and then sitting down and removing it confers NO magic protection from the mask since covid-19 is an aerosol and is spread simply by breathing and the particulate size is 200 times smaller than that of the breathing pores of even an N95 mask.
> >>>>
> >>>> In any case I went into Mike's Bikes not wearing a mask and they almost jumped out of their pants with fear. Get this - four people who have all been vaccinated are afraid of someone not wearing a mask. Exactly how would you suppose that would work?
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, the 20 year old or younger manager told me if I wouldn't wear a mask they wouldn't sell me anything. So I came home and ordered the tires and tubes on-line for a fraction of what it would have cost me in their store and paid $140 or so.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now this is more than they are making on the sorts of bikes that they can actually stock these days. So these morons were so stupid they were more than willing to turn down a large sale for exactly what reason? Because I wasn't willing to conform. And no other reason. This doesn't bode well for Mike's Bikes if they continue to hire people that no doubt have a college education that they have to pay off.
> >>> Had a haircut this morning. At the door I asked 'what is the deal currently?'. The barber (old high school friend) said 'I cut your hair and you pay after that'. End of discussion. If he had said 'you have to wear a mask' I would have said 'OK' also end of discussion.
> >> I should add that here in California San Francisco Bay area, there is absolutely NO NEED for masks, totally aside from CDC papers (abstract - “evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures (masks, social distancing and frequent hand washing) did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory -confirmed influenza.”
> >>
> >> Page three: “our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory – confirmed influenza”
> >>
> >> Page four: “face masks have not demonstrated protection against laboratory-confirmed influenza”
> >>
> >> Also a paper by Dr. Jim Meehan MD”
> >>
> >> Covid 19 is about viral transmission. Surgical and cloth masks do nothing to prevent viral transmission”) but we have a younger generation that absolutely loves the idea of being enslaved.
> >>
> >> There is a simple cure for this: reinstitute the draft so that these same children will have their own lives on the line as the Democrats start war after war after war. When it is their own butts on the line perhaps civil rights will be more important.
> >
> > If the sign says "no shoes, no shirt, no service" do you march in shirtless and demand service? It's a f****** private business. It can make you take off your shoes, like my local Japanese restaurant. If you don't want to wear a mask, go elsewhere -- like the Alt-Right Lunatic Bike Shop that has bikes with My Pillow saddles. BTW, the medical community disagrees with you. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776536
> We've had the "pleasure" of being in four different medical facilities
> in the past two weeks. (Fortunately, nothing was serious - so far.)
> Every one of them demanded masks, even for people sitting in waiting
> rooms. It was beyond "No shirt, no shoes, no service." It was "No mask,
> no entry," sometimes with a security guard to enforce it.
>
> The only objection was from a young punk at the ER, apparently on some
> "work release" program. His guard had to tell him to pull his mask back up.
>
> Those in charge of these facilities seem unaware of Tom's wisdom.

Maybe you don't recall Lord Fauci saying that masks might make you feel protected but didn't do anything. That was before he changed his mind after investing in the Chinese company that supplies most of the masks in the world..

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On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 1:00:01 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> On 9/3/2021 2:40 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> 1964 Civil Rights Act?
> You missed an opportunity to self-identify as Rachel Dolezal
> and sue them for racial discrimination. Million dollar lawsuit!

The Civil Rights people no longer believe in civil rights. Remember BLM and CRT? Where did the rights go of the citizens of this country?

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On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 2:01:42 PM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 1:00:01 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 9/3/2021 2:40 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >
> > 1964 Civil Rights Act?
> > You missed an opportunity to self-identify as Rachel Dolezal
> > and sue them for racial discrimination. Million dollar lawsuit!
> The Civil Rights people no longer believe in civil rights. Remember BLM and CRT? Where did the rights go of the citizens of this country?

Quit whining and move to Florida. https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2021/09/02/twelve-hours-in-a-florida-covid-19-icu/

-- Jay Beattie.

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On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 1:09:50 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 9/3/2021 3:02 PM, jbeattie wrote:
> > On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 11:32:55 AM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 10:56:47 AM UTC-7, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 7:27:37 PM UTC+2, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> Although this is a chain, it seems like every one of them I go into there is some moronic child running the place.
> >>>>
> >>>> This was so bad in the bay area where they were handling Trek that Trek opened factory stores where they had proper mechanics.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yesterday I was in Pleasanton on a 40 mile ride and the rubber rubbed off of my sidewall from the flat the other day began bothering me so I went off to Mikes Bikes to buy some tires.
> >>>>
> >>>> Alameda County Supervisors, those people with the superior medical knowledge have decided that you have to wear masks everywhere again. Why? Who the hell knows. (https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article) The Delta Variant has NO measurable effect and that comes directly from the CDC statistics if you know how to seek them out and read them. Anyone with half a brain should know that wearing a mask into a restaurant and then sitting down and removing it confers NO magic protection from the mask since covid-19 is an aerosol and is spread simply by breathing and the particulate size is 200 times smaller than that of the breathing pores of even an N95 mask.
> >>>>
> >>>> In any case I went into Mike's Bikes not wearing a mask and they almost jumped out of their pants with fear. Get this - four people who have all been vaccinated are afraid of someone not wearing a mask. Exactly how would you suppose that would work?
> >>>>
> >>>> Well, the 20 year old or younger manager told me if I wouldn't wear a mask they wouldn't sell me anything. So I came home and ordered the tires and tubes on-line for a fraction of what it would have cost me in their store and paid $140 or so.
> >>>>
> >>>> Now this is more than they are making on the sorts of bikes that they can actually stock these days. So these morons were so stupid they were more than willing to turn down a large sale for exactly what reason? Because I wasn't willing to conform. And no other reason. This doesn't bode well for Mike's Bikes if they continue to hire people that no doubt have a college education that they have to pay off.
> >>> Had a haircut this morning. At the door I asked 'what is the deal currently?'. The barber (old high school friend) said 'I cut your hair and you pay after that'. End of discussion. If he had said 'you have to wear a mask' I would have said 'OK' also end of discussion.
> >> I should add that here in California San Francisco Bay area, there is absolutely NO NEED for masks, totally aside from CDC papers (abstract - “evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures (masks, social distancing and frequent hand washing) did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory -confirmed influenza.”
> >>
> >> Page three: “our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory – confirmed influenza”
> >>
> >> Page four: “face masks have not demonstrated protection against laboratory-confirmed influenza”
> >>
> >> Also a paper by Dr. Jim Meehan MD”
> >>
> >> Covid 19 is about viral transmission. Surgical and cloth masks do nothing to prevent viral transmission”) but we have a younger generation that absolutely loves the idea of being enslaved.
> >>
> >> There is a simple cure for this: reinstitute the draft so that these same children will have their own lives on the line as the Democrats start war after war after war. When it is their own butts on the line perhaps civil rights will be more important.
> >
> > If the sign says "no shoes, no shirt, no service" do you march in shirtless and demand service? It's a f****** private business. It can make you take off your shoes, like my local Japanese restaurant. If you don't want to wear a mask, go elsewhere -- like the Alt-Right Lunatic Bike Shop that has bikes with My Pillow saddles. BTW, the medical community disagrees with you. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776536
> We've had the "pleasure" of being in four different medical facilities
> in the past two weeks. (Fortunately, nothing was serious - so far.)
> Every one of them demanded masks, even for people sitting in waiting
> rooms. It was beyond "No shirt, no shoes, no service." It was "No mask,
> no entry," sometimes with a security guard to enforce it.
>
> The only objection was from a young punk at the ER, apparently on some
> "work release" program. His guard had to tell him to pull his mask back up.
>
> Those in charge of these facilities seem unaware of Tom's wisdom.

Here is the actual testing that you could have found found yourself, but you much prefer your false beliefs: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-1342?fbclid=IwAR1arBfDNIfUrfr1rn4C44Nuekv0b8LbtC94JbCP5on-TuRlHCm532xwSzU&

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On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 2:24:22 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 2:01:42 PM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 1:00:01 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> > > On 9/3/2021 2:40 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >
> > > 1964 Civil Rights Act?
> > > You missed an opportunity to self-identify as Rachel Dolezal
> > > and sue them for racial discrimination. Million dollar lawsuit!
> > The Civil Rights people no longer believe in civil rights. Remember BLM and CRT? Where did the rights go of the citizens of this country?
> Quit whining and move to Florida. https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2021/09/02/twelve-hours-in-a-florida-covid-19-icu/
I will ask you again Jay, WHAT in the hell do you know about medicine? In case you're unaware, fentanyl is contra-indicated by breathing problems. They said the woman presented days before. With WHAT? Gee isn't it easy to not show the facts? Those AT RISK for any influenza are those with pre-existing conditions such as serious circulatory conditions. Flu's such as covid-19 are respiratory diseases.

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 by: Frank Krygowski - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 22:29 UTC

On 9/3/2021 5:27 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 1:09:50 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 9/3/2021 3:02 PM, jbeattie wrote:
>>> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 11:32:55 AM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 10:56:47 AM UTC-7, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 7:27:37 PM UTC+2, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> Although this is a chain, it seems like every one of them I go into there is some moronic child running the place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This was so bad in the bay area where they were handling Trek that Trek opened factory stores where they had proper mechanics.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday I was in Pleasanton on a 40 mile ride and the rubber rubbed off of my sidewall from the flat the other day began bothering me so I went off to Mikes Bikes to buy some tires.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alameda County Supervisors, those people with the superior medical knowledge have decided that you have to wear masks everywhere again. Why? Who the hell knows. (https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article) The Delta Variant has NO measurable effect and that comes directly from the CDC statistics if you know how to seek them out and read them. Anyone with half a brain should know that wearing a mask into a restaurant and then sitting down and removing it confers NO magic protection from the mask since covid-19 is an aerosol and is spread simply by breathing and the particulate size is 200 times smaller than that of the breathing pores of even an N95 mask.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In any case I went into Mike's Bikes not wearing a mask and they almost jumped out of their pants with fear. Get this - four people who have all been vaccinated are afraid of someone not wearing a mask. Exactly how would you suppose that would work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, the 20 year old or younger manager told me if I wouldn't wear a mask they wouldn't sell me anything. So I came home and ordered the tires and tubes on-line for a fraction of what it would have cost me in their store and paid $140 or so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now this is more than they are making on the sorts of bikes that they can actually stock these days. So these morons were so stupid they were more than willing to turn down a large sale for exactly what reason? Because I wasn't willing to conform. And no other reason. This doesn't bode well for Mike's Bikes if they continue to hire people that no doubt have a college education that they have to pay off.
>>>>> Had a haircut this morning. At the door I asked 'what is the deal currently?'. The barber (old high school friend) said 'I cut your hair and you pay after that'. End of discussion. If he had said 'you have to wear a mask' I would have said 'OK' also end of discussion.
>>>> I should add that here in California San Francisco Bay area, there is absolutely NO NEED for masks, totally aside from CDC papers (abstract - “evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures (masks, social distancing and frequent hand washing) did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory -confirmed influenza.”
>>>>
>>>> Page three: “our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory – confirmed influenza”
>>>>
>>>> Page four: “face masks have not demonstrated protection against laboratory-confirmed influenza”
>>>>
>>>> Also a paper by Dr. Jim Meehan MD”
>>>>
>>>> Covid 19 is about viral transmission. Surgical and cloth masks do nothing to prevent viral transmission”) but we have a younger generation that absolutely loves the idea of being enslaved.
>>>>
>>>> There is a simple cure for this: reinstitute the draft so that these same children will have their own lives on the line as the Democrats start war after war after war. When it is their own butts on the line perhaps civil rights will be more important.
>>>
>>> If the sign says "no shoes, no shirt, no service" do you march in shirtless and demand service? It's a f****** private business. It can make you take off your shoes, like my local Japanese restaurant. If you don't want to wear a mask, go elsewhere -- like the Alt-Right Lunatic Bike Shop that has bikes with My Pillow saddles. BTW, the medical community disagrees with you. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776536
>> We've had the "pleasure" of being in four different medical facilities
>> in the past two weeks. (Fortunately, nothing was serious - so far.)
>> Every one of them demanded masks, even for people sitting in waiting
>> rooms. It was beyond "No shirt, no shoes, no service." It was "No mask,
>> no entry," sometimes with a security guard to enforce it.
>>
>> The only objection was from a young punk at the ER, apparently on some
>> "work release" program. His guard had to tell him to pull his mask back up.
>>
>> Those in charge of these facilities seem unaware of Tom's wisdom.
>
> Here is the actual testing that you could have found found yourself, but you much prefer your false beliefs: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-1342?fbclid=IwAR1arBfDNIfUrfr1rn4C44Nuekv0b8LbtC94JbCP5on-TuRlHCm532xwSzU&

I stopped reading when I saw the notice "This Article has been Retracted."

But how lucky we are to have the World's Foremost Expert on virus
transmission here in our little bicycle discussion group! Way smarter
than Fauci (who actually _did_ graduate from high school!), way more
knowledgeable than the best trained and experienced medical researchers
in over 150 countries! Able to "prove" his assertions conclusively by
simply saying "I have shown..."

Given our incredible luck, we should all chip in for a lottery ticket.

--
- Frank Krygowski

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 by: Frank Krygowski - Fri, 3 Sep 2021 22:31 UTC

On 9/3/2021 5:39 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> I will ask you again Jay, WHAT in the hell do you know about medicine?

.... says the high school dropout with oft-admitted and demonstrated
memory problems.

Astonishing!

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On Fri, 3 Sep 2021 16:09:46 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 9/3/2021 3:02 PM, jbeattie wrote:
>> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 11:32:55 AM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 10:56:47 AM UTC-7, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 7:27:37 PM UTC+2, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> Although this is a chain, it seems like every one of them I go into there is some moronic child running the place.
>>>>>
>>>>> This was so bad in the bay area where they were handling Trek that Trek opened factory stores where they had proper mechanics.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday I was in Pleasanton on a 40 mile ride and the rubber rubbed off of my sidewall from the flat the other day began bothering me so I went off to Mikes Bikes to buy some tires.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alameda County Supervisors, those people with the superior medical knowledge have decided that you have to wear masks everywhere again. Why? Who the hell knows. (https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article) The Delta Variant has NO measurable effect and that comes directly from the CDC statistics if you know how to seek them out and read them. Anyone with half a brain should know that wearing a mask into a restaurant and then sitting down and removing it confers NO magic protection from the mask since covid-19 is an aerosol and is spread simply by breathing and the particulate size is 200 times smaller than that of the breathing pores of even an N95 mask.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any case I went into Mike's Bikes not wearing a mask and they almost jumped out of their pants with fear. Get this - four people who have all been vaccinated are afraid of someone not wearing a mask. Exactly how would you suppose that would work?
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, the 20 year old or younger manager told me if I wouldn't wear a mask they wouldn't sell me anything. So I came home and ordered the tires and tubes on-line for a fraction of what it would have cost me in their store and paid $140 or so.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now this is more than they are making on the sorts of bikes that they can actually stock these days. So these morons were so stupid they were more than willing to turn down a large sale for exactly what reason? Because I wasn't willing to conform. And no other reason. This doesn't bode well for Mike's Bikes if they continue to hire people that no doubt have a college education that they have to pay off.
>>>> Had a haircut this morning. At the door I asked 'what is the deal currently?'. The barber (old high school friend) said 'I cut your hair and you pay after that'. End of discussion. If he had said 'you have to wear a mask' I would have said 'OK' also end of discussion.
>>> I should add that here in California San Francisco Bay area, there is absolutely NO NEED for masks, totally aside from CDC papers (abstract - “evidence from 14 randomized controlled trials of these measures (masks, social distancing and frequent hand washing) did not support a substantial effect on transmission of laboratory -confirmed influenza.”
>>>
>>> Page three: “our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory – confirmed influenza”
>>>
>>> Page four: “face masks have not demonstrated protection against laboratory-confirmed influenza”
>>>
>>> Also a paper by Dr. Jim Meehan MD”
>>>
>>> Covid 19 is about viral transmission. Surgical and cloth masks do nothing to prevent viral transmission”) but we have a younger generation that absolutely loves the idea of being enslaved.
>>>
>>> There is a simple cure for this: reinstitute the draft so that these same children will have their own lives on the line as the Democrats start war after war after war. When it is their own butts on the line perhaps civil rights will be more important.
>>
>> If the sign says "no shoes, no shirt, no service" do you march in shirtless and demand service? It's a f****** private business. It can make you take off your shoes, like my local Japanese restaurant. If you don't want to wear a mask, go elsewhere -- like the Alt-Right Lunatic Bike Shop that has bikes with My Pillow saddles. BTW, the medical community disagrees with you. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776536
>
>We've had the "pleasure" of being in four different medical facilities
>in the past two weeks. (Fortunately, nothing was serious - so far.)
>Every one of them demanded masks, even for people sitting in waiting
>rooms. It was beyond "No shirt, no shoes, no service." It was "No mask,
>no entry," sometimes with a security guard to enforce it.
>
>The only objection was from a young punk at the ER, apparently on some
>"work release" program. His guard had to tell him to pull his mask back up.
>
>Those in charge of these facilities seem unaware of Tom's wisdom.

Here (Thailand) it is even worse. they take your temperature BEFORE
they will let you in the door (:-)
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Cheers,

John B.

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 by: John B. - Sat, 4 Sep 2021 00:27 UTC

On Fri, 3 Sep 2021 18:31:49 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 9/3/2021 5:39 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>
>> I will ask you again Jay, WHAT in the hell do you know about medicine?
>
>... says the high school dropout with oft-admitted and demonstrated
>memory problems.
>
>Astonishing!

Just as the fellow on the road to Damascus was struck by a blinding
light and all was reveled to him so Tommy Boy fell on his head on the
road to San Leandro and in his delusions believes that he knows
everything..
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Cheers,

John B.

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 by: Jeff Liebermann - Sat, 4 Sep 2021 06:38 UTC

On Fri, 3 Sep 2021 14:27:19 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>Here is the actual testing that you could have found found yourself, but you much prefer your false beliefs: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-1342?fbclid=IwAR1arBfDNIfUrfr1rn4C44Nuekv0b8LbtC94JbCP5on-TuRlHCm532xwSzU&

This article has been retracted. See Notice of Retraction.
<https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/L20-0745>

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> If the sign says "no shoes, no shirt, no service" do you march in shirtless and demand service? It's a f****** private business. It can make you take off your shoes, like my local Japanese restaurant. If you don't want to wear a mask, go elsewhere -- like the Alt-Right Lunatic Bike Shop that has bikes with My Pillow saddles. BTW, the medical community disagrees with you. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776536

Kudo's to Mikes Bikes for enforcing common-sense Covid-prevention
measures. Fortunately Tom just left without incident. Other covidiot
anti-maskers have been physically removed from stores like Walmart.
<https://youtu.be/f456x1Zvz3U>
<https://twitter.com/i/status/1292306240287248384>

I met the founder of Mike's Bikes once, Ken Martin, good guy.

Years ago, I recall leading a weekend ride from San Francisco out to
Point Reyes when one person on the tour had some sort of failure, I
can't recall what it was but it was more than just a failed tire. We
stopped by Mike's Bikes in Sausalito, which is right on the multi-use
path, and the first bicycle shop you come to in Marin County after you
cross the Golden Gate Bridge. They were super-helpful and were kind
enough to do repairs while we waited.

From Tom's experience of being thrown out for behaving like an idiot,
Mike's Bikes seems like a well-run store that we should all patronize.
They don't care that he bought a tire somewhere else.

We'd be done with Covid by now if we didn't have Covidiots like Tom
running around behaving like morons, and ignoring all the science.

Bccing Ken Martin, the CEO of Mike's Bikes.

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On 9/3/2021 4:16 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Sep 2021 16:09:46 -0400, Frank Krygowski

<snip>

>> Those in charge of these facilities seem unaware of Tom's wisdom.
>
> Here (Thailand) it is even worse. they take your temperature BEFORE
> they will let you in the door (:-)

We've had some stores in my area doing that, a Japanese supermarket and
a Japanese variety store, Daiso (also in Thailand apparently). Also
medical facilities take your temperature at the door.

With vaccination effectiveness decreasing over time, and breakthrough
infections occurring, the Mike's Bikes store was very smart for
protecting both the employees and the other customers, from covidiots.

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"Mike's Bikes store was very smart...."

Not smart enough to garner my business, though. I agree with Tom. I'm done with trying to appease the scardey-cat sheeples. I don't patronize any establishments that make me wear a mask or take my temperature. How long is this bullshit going to continue before the dummies realize that the government is simply using Covid as an excuse to control our lives, so that we will be more willing to accept more stringent government controls in the future?

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On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 4:53:47 AM UTC-7, William Crowell wrote:
> "Mike's Bikes store was very smart...."
>
> Not smart enough to garner my business, though. I agree with Tom. I'm done with trying to appease the scardey-cat sheeples. I don't patronize any establishments that make me wear a mask or take my temperature. How long is this bullshit going to continue before the dummies realize that the government is simply using Covid as an excuse to control our lives, so that we will be more willing to accept more stringent government controls in the future?

You need to move to Idaho. https://www.yahoo.com/news/idaho-hospitals-nearly-buckling-relentless-051151355.html And aren't masks required in all retail locations in California? I think Mikes is just following the law, which is what good conservative, law-abiding people do.

-- Jay Beattie.

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 by: jbeattie - Sat, 4 Sep 2021 14:51 UTC

On Friday, September 3, 2021 at 11:38:27 PM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Fri, 3 Sep 2021 14:27:19 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Here is the actual testing that you could have found found yourself, but you much prefer your false beliefs: https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-1342?fbclid=IwAR1arBfDNIfUrfr1rn4C44Nuekv0b8LbtC94JbCP5on-TuRlHCm532xwSzU&
> This article has been retracted. See Notice of Retraction.
> <https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/L20-0745>

It was rejected in other respects early on as noted in the comments. Its also a year old, which is a lifetime with COVID-related public health research. The most recent data indicates mask-use slows community spread. Masks are not perfect or 100% effective, and neither is most PPE.

-- Jay Beattie.

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 by: AMuzi - Sat, 4 Sep 2021 14:51 UTC

On 9/4/2021 9:31 AM, jbeattie wrote:
> On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 4:53:47 AM UTC-7, William Crowell wrote:
>> "Mike's Bikes store was very smart...."
>>
>> Not smart enough to garner my business, though. I agree with Tom. I'm done with trying to appease the scardey-cat sheeples. I don't patronize any establishments that make me wear a mask or take my temperature. How long is this bullshit going to continue before the dummies realize that the government is simply using Covid as an excuse to control our lives, so that we will be more willing to accept more stringent government controls in the future?
>
> You need to move to Idaho. https://www.yahoo.com/news/idaho-hospitals-nearly-buckling-relentless-051151355.html And aren't masks required in all retail locations in California? I think Mikes is just following the law, which is what good conservative, law-abiding people do.
>
> -- Jay Beattie.
>

Right you are.

Or, in the best traditions of our nation, move one's self,
home and business to a less pernicious jurisdiction.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


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