I use Godaddy for e-mail. On my Windows computer, Starting yesterday,
I could no longer get e-mail. The problem was apparently that my OWL
subscription had expired, and when I paid them the €10, the problem
went away.

Now Bluemail on my Android phone doesn't work, so I think I need I
also need to enable OWL there. But I can't find any way to edit the
server settings. Can somebody help?

Or is there no way to do this and I have to delete the account and
re-add it?

Ken Blake writes:

> The problem was apparently that my OWL
> subscription had expired

What is OWL?

Am 02.06.23 um 01:36 schrieb Scott Lurndal:
> Ken Blake writes:
>
>> The problem was apparently that my OWL
>> subscription had expired
>
> What is OWL?

I'm wondering too.

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

Joerg Lorenz wrote:

> schrieb Scott Lurndal:
>
>> Ken Blake writes:
>>
>>> The problem was apparently that my OWL
>>> subscription had expired
>>
>> What is OWL?
>
> I'm wondering too.

I'd never heard of it before, but assumed it was this

<https://www.beonex.com/owl/>

If godaddy email is MS365 in disguise, maybe 2FA has got enabled, they
forced me to enable it a couple of weeks ago ...

Andy Burns writes:

> If godaddy email is MS365 in disguise, maybe 2FA has got enabled, they
> forced me to enable it a couple of weeks ago ...

They won't let you oauth2 instead of 2fa?

On Fri, 2 Jun 2023 08:48:06 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:

>Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>
>> schrieb Scott Lurndal:
>>
>>> Ken Blake writes:
>>>
>>>> The problem was apparently that my OWL
>>>> subscription had expired
>>>
>>> What is OWL?
>>
>> I'm wondering too.
>
>I'd never heard of it before, but assumed it was this
>
><https://www.beonex.com/owl/>

Yes.

>If godaddy email is MS365 in disguise, maybe 2FA has got enabled, they
>forced me to enable it a couple of weeks ago ...

Not on my Windows computer.

Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know
how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have
to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
directly?

On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
> Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know
> how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have
> to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
> directly?
Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account
Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account ->
Incoming/outgoing Settings.

On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 05:03:50 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
wrote:

>On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
>> Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know
>> how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have
>> to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
>> directly?
>Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account
>Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account ->

OK so far, but...

>Incoming/outgoing Settings.

.... that's not a choice there.

On Sat, 03 Jun 2023 08:02:18 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 05:03:50 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
>>> Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know
>>> how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have
>>> to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
>>> directly?
>>Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account
>>Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account ->
>
>OK so far, but...
>
>
>>Incoming/outgoing Settings.
>
>
>... that's not a choice there.

While I was there, I thought that perhaps Bluemail didn't have my
latest password, so I went to Edit Account -> Update Password and
entered the current password, It says "Password is incorrect."

On Sat, 03 Jun 2023 08:10:50 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 03 Jun 2023 08:02:18 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 05:03:50 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>> Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know
>>>> how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have
>>>> to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
>>>> directly?
>>>Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account
>>>Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account ->
>>
>>OK so far, but...
>>
>>
>>>Incoming/outgoing Settings.
>>
>>
>>... that's not a choice there.
>
>While I was there, I thought that perhaps Bluemail didn't have my
>latest password, so I went to Edit Account -> Update Password and
>entered the current password, It says "Password is incorrect."

Also, while on Edit Account, I see that at the top it says

PROVIDER: OFFICE365
Account: xxxxxxxx
Protocol: IMAP

On my Windows 11 computer, Thunderbird says

Server Type: owl
Server Name: outlook.office365.com
User Name: xxxxxxxxx

I don't see where Thunderbird says what the protocol is.

This is why I thought I might have to edit the server settings.

On 03/06/2023 16:02, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 05:03:50 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
>>> Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know
>>> how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have
>>> to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
>>> directly?
>> Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account
>> Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account ->
>
> OK so far, but...
>
>
>> Incoming/outgoing Settings.
>
>
> ... that's not a choice there.
Strange! It's there for me (Bluemail Version 1.9.8.213). Two below the
update password setting.

On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 16:35:32 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
wrote:

>On 03/06/2023 16:02, Ken Blake wrote:
>> On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 05:03:50 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>> Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know
>>>> how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have
>>>> to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
>>>> directly?
>>> Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account
>>> Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account ->
>>
>> OK so far, but...
>>
>>
>>> Incoming/outgoing Settings.
>>
>>
>> ... that's not a choice there.

>Strange! It's there for me (Bluemail Version 1.9.8.213).

Same version here.

>Two below the
>update password setting.

Following Provider, not editable, and with a big red dot on the right,
the only choices are

Name
Update Password
Description
Account Color
Revert to the Default Account Color
Calday Manual Config
Remove Account

in that order.

Should I just remove the account and add it back? Is there any
downside to doing that?

Or should I just switch to another e-mail client, such as K9, which I
used to use?

Ken Blake wrote

> On my Windows 11 computer, Thunderbird says
>
> Server Type: owl
> Server Name: outlook.office365.com
> User Name: xxxxxxxxx

Why do you need OWL for TB to talk to MS365?
Mine just speaks direct...

On 2023-06-03 17:24, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Jun 2023 08:10:50 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 03 Jun 2023 08:02:18 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 05:03:50 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>> On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>> Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know
>>>>> how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have
>>>>> to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
>>>>> directly?
>>>> Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account
>>>> Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account ->
>>>
>>> OK so far, but...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Incoming/outgoing Settings.
>>>
>>>
>>> ... that's not a choice there.
>>
>> While I was there, I thought that perhaps Bluemail didn't have my
>> latest password, so I went to Edit Account -> Update Password and
>> entered the current password, It says "Password is incorrect."
>
> Also, while on Edit Account, I see that at the top it says
>
> PROVIDER: OFFICE365
> Account: xxxxxxxx
> Protocol: IMAP
>
> On my Windows 11 computer, Thunderbird says
>
> Server Type: owl
> Server Name: outlook.office365.com
> User Name: xxxxxxxxx
>
> I don't see where Thunderbird says what the protocol is.

Edit / Account settings. Select the account you want, then go to the
Server Settings section on the left panel. Then at the top right you
will see "server type: imap mail server" or whatever.

In your case it says "owl". The protocol is "owl".

You have to create the account again, you can not change it.

>
> This is why I thought I might have to edit the server settings.

--
Cheers, Carlos.

On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 18:37:21 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:

>Ken Blake wrote
>
>> On my Windows 11 computer, Thunderbird says
>>
>> Server Type: owl
>> Server Name: outlook.office365.com
>> User Name: xxxxxxxxx
>
>Why do you need OWL for TB to talk to MS365?
>Mine just speaks direct...

I don't know why. I tried it a while back, and then I couldn't get
rid of it. Fortunately it's inexpensive, so I don't care much.

On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 20:30:17 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
<robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

>On 2023-06-03 17:24, Ken Blake wrote:
>> On Sat, 03 Jun 2023 08:10:50 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>>> On Sat, 03 Jun 2023 08:02:18 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 05:03:50 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>>> Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know
>>>>>> how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have
>>>>>> to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
>>>>>> directly?
>>>>> Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account
>>>>> Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account ->
>>>>
>>>> OK so far, but...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Incoming/outgoing Settings.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ... that's not a choice there.
>>>
>>> While I was there, I thought that perhaps Bluemail didn't have my
>>> latest password, so I went to Edit Account -> Update Password and
>>> entered the current password, It says "Password is incorrect."
>>
>> Also, while on Edit Account, I see that at the top it says
>>
>> PROVIDER: OFFICE365
>> Account: xxxxxxxx
>> Protocol: IMAP
>>
>> On my Windows 11 computer, Thunderbird says
>>
>> Server Type: owl
>> Server Name: outlook.office365.com
>> User Name: xxxxxxxxx
>>
>> I don't see where Thunderbird says what the protocol is.
>
>Edit / Account settings. Select the account you want, then go to the
>Server Settings section on the left panel. Then at the top right you
>will see "server type: imap mail server" or whatever.
>
>In your case it says "owl". The protocol is "owl".
>
>You have to create the account again, you can not change it.

I thought that was likely to be the case. No time now, but I'll do it
later today or tomorrow.

On 03/06/2023 17:30, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 16:35:32 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 03/06/2023 16:02, Ken Blake wrote:
>>> On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 05:03:50 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>> Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know
>>>>> how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have
>>>>> to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
>>>>> directly?
>>>> Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account
>>>> Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account ->
>>>
>>> OK so far, but...
>>>
>>>
>>>> Incoming/outgoing Settings.
>>>
>>>
>>> ... that's not a choice there.
>
>> Strange! It's there for me (Bluemail Version 1.9.8.213).
>
> Same version here.
>
>> Two below the
>> update password setting.
>
>
> Following Provider, not editable, and with a big red dot on the right,
> the only choices are
>
> Name
> Update Password
> Description
> Account Color
> Revert to the Default Account Color
> Calday Manual Config
> Remove Account
>
> in that order.
>
> Should I just remove the account and add it back? Is there any
> downside to doing that?
>
> Or should I just switch to another e-mail client, such as K9, which I
> used to use?
If you like Bluemail, I'd just remove and add back. Hopefully it fixes
things.

On Sun, 4 Jun 2023 19:44:01 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
wrote:

>On 03/06/2023 17:30, Ken Blake wrote:
>> On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 16:35:32 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/06/2023 16:02, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 05:03:50 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 02/06/2023 15:02, Ken Blake wrote:
>>>>>> Leaving aside OWL for the moment, let me ask again, does anyone know
>>>>>> how I can change the server settings on my Android Bluemail? Do I have
>>>>>> to delete and add back my account or is there a way to change it
>>>>>> directly?
>>>>> Hamburger menu (top left) -> Three dots (bottom left) -> Account
>>>>> Settings -> Tap the email account you want to change -> Edit Account ->
>>>>
>>>> OK so far, but...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Incoming/outgoing Settings.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ... that's not a choice there.
>>
>>> Strange! It's there for me (Bluemail Version 1.9.8.213).
>>
>> Same version here.
>>
>>> Two below the
>>> update password setting.
>>
>>
>> Following Provider, not editable, and with a big red dot on the right,
>> the only choices are
>>
>> Name
>> Update Password
>> Description
>> Account Color
>> Revert to the Default Account Color
>> Calday Manual Config
>> Remove Account
>>
>> in that order.
>>
>> Should I just remove the account and add it back? Is there any
>> downside to doing that?
>>
>> Or should I just switch to another e-mail client, such as K9, which I
>> used to use?
>If you like Bluemail, I'd just remove and add back. Hopefully it fixes
>things.

It was my plan to do that today, but other things have come up and I
was too busy. Maybe tomorrow.

On 2023-06-04 22:50, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Sun, 4 Jun 2023 19:44:01 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 03/06/2023 17:30, Ken Blake wrote:
>>> On Sat, 3 Jun 2023 16:35:32 +0100, Phil <philusenet1458@gmx.com>
>>> wrote:

....

>>> Should I just remove the account and add it back? Is there any
>>> downside to doing that?
>>>
>>> Or should I just switch to another e-mail client, such as K9, which I
>>> used to use?
>> If you like Bluemail, I'd just remove and add back. Hopefully it fixes
>> things.
>
>
> It was my plan to do that today, but other things have come up and I
> was too busy. Maybe tomorrow.

Erase app data before removing it, else the new install might reuse the
previous data and fail exactly the same way.

--
Cheers, Carlos.