I'm sure you've talked about this before, but my quesion is a little
different:

If I have Gorilla Glass 5 for my screen, do I still need a screen
protector?

Do I want a film protector or tempered glass? I guess my big concern
is whether I can put it on straight and without bubbles, and whether it
makes tapping harder to do.

TIA

In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 10 Jun 2023 18:07:05 -0400, micky
<NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

>I'm sure you've talked about this before, but my quesion is a little
>different:
>
>If I have Gorilla Glass 5 for my screen, do I still need a screen
>protector?
>
>Do I want a film protector or tempered glass? I guess my big concern
>is whether I can put it on straight and without bubbles, and whether it
>makes tapping harder to do.
>
>TIA

I should add that I carry my phone in my pocket with no keys or anything
else that can scratch it -- I put such things in the other pocket -- and
I've had it for 100 or 200 days without scratching it yet,

On 2023-06-10, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>I'm sure you've talked about this before, but my quesion is a little
>>different:
>>
>>If I have Gorilla Glass 5 for my screen, do I still need a screen
>>protector?
>>
>>Do I want a film protector or tempered glass? I guess my big concern
>>is whether I can put it on straight and without bubbles, and whether it
>>makes tapping harder to do.
>>
>>TIA
>
> I should add that I carry my phone in my pocket with no keys or anything
> else that can scratch it -- I put such things in the other pocket -- and
> I've had it for 100 or 200 days without scratching it yet,

It's glass. No amount of advertising of clever names changes that.

Just like you want an animal skin on your hands when you're hoeing the
garden, you want glass on top of glass on a phone.

Someone else's skin protects your skin. Same with phones.

Until they make the screen out of something other than glass, that will
always be the case that you will need to protect it from falls & scratches.

Am 11.06.23 um 00:07 schrieb micky:
> I'm sure you've talked about this before, but my quesion is a little
> different:
>
> If I have Gorilla Glass 5 for my screen, do I still need a screen
> protector?
>
> Do I want a film protector or tempered glass? I guess my big concern
> is whether I can put it on straight and without bubbles, and whether it
> makes tapping harder to do.

Not needed. Buy a bumper with edges slightly higher than the level of
the glass.

Works here for 15 years on Androids and iPhones after I bricked two
iPhone 3Gs.

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 10 Jun 2023 18:07:05 -0400, micky
> <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm sure you've talked about this before, but my quesion is a little
>> different:
>>
>> If I have Gorilla Glass 5 for my screen, do I still need a screen
>> protector?
>>
>> Do I want a film protector or tempered glass? I guess my big concern
>> is whether I can put it on straight and without bubbles, and whether it
>> makes tapping harder to do.
>>
>> TIA
>
> I should add that I carry my phone in my pocket with no keys or anything
> else that can scratch it -- I put such things in the other pocket -- and
> I've had it for 100 or 200 days without scratching it yet,

Not needed. in fact, more of a hindrance than a help. Same goes for iPad
and other devices.

I've been carrying mobile phones around everywhere I go for decades
(usually in a breast-high coat pocket) without detriment of any kind.

There are, however, some very clumsy people around. I've seen women
reach into bags and drop phones on the ground; teenagers who love to
throw their friends' phones around, and even pre-school kids drop cheap
ones. But I doubt a simple screen-protector would have benefitted there.

Ed

In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 11 Jun 2023 08:40:15 +0200, Joerg Lorenz
<hugybear@gmx.ch> wrote:

>Am 11.06.23 um 00:07 schrieb micky:
>> I'm sure you've talked about this before, but my quesion is a little
>> different:
>>
>> If I have Gorilla Glass 5 for my screen, do I still need a screen
>> protector?
>>
>> Do I want a film protector or tempered glass? I guess my big concern
>> is whether I can put it on straight and without bubbles, and whether it
>> makes tapping harder to do.
>
>Not needed. Buy a bumper with edges slightly higher than the level of
>the glass.

That I have already. Thanks.
>
>Works here for 15 years on Androids and iPhones after I bricked two
>iPhone 3Gs.

In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 11 Jun 2023 09:25:23 +0100, Ed Cryer
<ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:

>micky wrote:
>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 10 Jun 2023 18:07:05 -0400, micky
>> <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm sure you've talked about this before, but my quesion is a little
>>> different:
>>>
>>> If I have Gorilla Glass 5 for my screen, do I still need a screen
>>> protector?
>>>
>>> Do I want a film protector or tempered glass? I guess my big concern
>>> is whether I can put it on straight and without bubbles, and whether it
>>> makes tapping harder to do.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>
>> I should add that I carry my phone in my pocket with no keys or anything
>> else that can scratch it -- I put such things in the other pocket -- and
>> I've had it for 100 or 200 days without scratching it yet,
>
>Not needed. in fact, more of a hindrance than a help. Same goes for iPad
>and other devices.

Sounds good to me. I think you're the first person to tell me what I
wanted to hear.
>
>I've been carrying mobile phones around everywhere I go for decades
>(usually in a breast-high coat pocket) without detriment of any kind.

>There are, however, some very clumsy people around. I've seen women
>reach into bags and drop phones on the ground; teenagers who love to
>throw their friends' phones around, and even pre-school kids drop cheap
>ones. But I doubt a simple screen-protector would have benefitted there.

This must be partly because they always have the phone in their hand,
instead of a pocket I don't understand that.

Have you seen the video -- I think think there are two different ones --
of someone dropping her phone at Sea World or some such place, and the
dolphin goes down, gets it, and brings it back up to her? It's not
like they play Fetch with dolphins. He knew what was appropriate, by
thinking, I guess.

>Ed

In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 10 Jun 2023 22:19:32 -0000 (UTC),
Incubus <u9536612@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 2023-06-10, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>>I'm sure you've talked about this before, but my quesion is a little
>>>different:
>>>
>>>If I have Gorilla Glass 5 for my screen, do I still need a screen
>>>protector?
>>>
>>>Do I want a film protector or tempered glass? I guess my big concern
>>>is whether I can put it on straight and without bubbles, and whether it
>>>makes tapping harder to do.
>>>
>>>TIA
>>
>> I should add that I carry my phone in my pocket with no keys or anything
>> else that can scratch it -- I put such things in the other pocket -- and
>> I've had it for 100 or 200 days without scratching it yet,
>
>It's glass. No amount of advertising of clever names changes that.
>
>Just like you want an animal skin on your hands when you're hoeing the
>garden, you want glass on top of glass on a phone.
>
>Someone else's skin protects your skin. Same with phones.
>
>Until they make the screen out of something other than glass, that will
>always be the case that you will need to protect it from falls & scratches.

You had me convinced until he ohers said what I wanted to hear. I will
stop putting leaves and lawn trash in my right pocket and I will turn
all my pockets inside out to get rid of any sand or dirt that is sitting
at the bottom now.

Of course, if I do scratch it, I'll regret this plan.

On 6/11/2023 5:47 AM, micky wrote:

> I will stop putting leaves and lawn trash in my right pocket and I
> will turn all my pockets inside out to get rid of any sand or dirt
> that is sitting at the bottom now. Of course, if I do scratch it,
> I'll regret this plan.

How about a phone holster? There's no screen scratching and an added
benefit is that it not only leaves the pants pocket free for more
important junk but is also easier to answer than a pocketed ringing
phone when sitting down. But be careful. Some cheap holsters can fall
off your belt and/or the phone fall out. Mine costs a bit more but
locks securely to my belt and also locks the phone in the holster
so accidental loss is near impossible...

Am 11.06.23 um 17:51 schrieb AJL:
> On 6/11/2023 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
>
>> I will stop putting leaves and lawn trash in my right pocket and I
>> will turn all my pockets inside out to get rid of any sand or dirt
>> that is sitting at the bottom now. Of course, if I do scratch it,
>> I'll regret this plan.
>
> How about a phone holster?

That was the fashion in the late 90s and early 00s.
Today the first thing that comes to my mind: "Elderly people can look so
ridiculous".

I'm already retired too. ;-)

A more than 6" smartphone in a holster is not an option! For a Smith &
Wesson it is.

--
Gutta cavat lapidem (Ovid)

On 6/11/2023 9:11 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 11.06.23 um 17:51 schrieb AJL:

> That [phone holster] was the fashion in the late 90s and early 00s.
> Today the first thing that comes to my mind: "Elderly people can look
> so ridiculous".

I wear my shirt on the outside (thus a hidden holster)... ;)

Though perhaps it's not all that hidden. I once had to lift my shirt for
security when already inside Disneyland cause they thought I was packing.

> I'm already retired too. ;-)

I live in a large retirement community and we flood the surrounding
stores so the normal folks here are pretty already much used to us...

> A more than 6" smartphone in a holster is not an option!

My phone (Galaxy S10+) is 6.4 inches. Lots of (stylish?) holsters
currently available on Amazon...

> For a Smith & Wesson it is.

My state (AZ-USA) allows open holster or concealed carry, no permit
required. So the big decision of the day is: Gun in the pocket and phone
in the holster or visa versa... ;)

AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
> On 6/11/2023 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
>
> > I will stop putting leaves and lawn trash in my right pocket and I
> > will turn all my pockets inside out to get rid of any sand or dirt
> > that is sitting at the bottom now. Of course, if I do scratch it,
> > I'll regret this plan.
>
> How about a phone holster? There's no screen scratching and an added
> benefit is that it not only leaves the pants pocket free for more
> important junk but is also easier to answer than a pocketed ringing
> phone when sitting down. But be careful. Some cheap holsters can fall
> off your belt and/or the phone fall out. Mine costs a bit more but
> locks securely to my belt and also locks the phone in the holster
> so accidental loss is near impossible...

What (AFAIK) has not been mentioned yet, is a 'book cover'. I have
used them for 'all' (three) my phones. (The first one was a 'flip' one,
i.e. had the hinge at the bottom instead of on the left side, but the
basic idea is the same.)

They offer good/adequate protection, at least for my kind of use.

Yes, it takes somewhat more time to pick up a phone call, but phone
calls are *SO* last century.

The inside normally has space for some creditcard-sized cards. So when
I take my phone, I have all I need for most situations.

Small downside: With the book cover, the phone does not fit well/
easily in a holder to use for navigation while driving, so I have to
take the phone out of the (flexible plastic) 'mounting' in the 'book'.
That's a 'problem' for my T-Ford prototype, but more modern cars
probably have Android Auto, so you can use the big screen for
navigation.

BUT, don't judge the book by its cover!

On 6/11/23 10:53 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
>> On 6/11/2023 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
>>
>> > I will stop putting leaves and lawn trash in my right pocket and I
>> > will turn all my pockets inside out to get rid of any sand or dirt
>> > that is sitting at the bottom now. Of course, if I do scratch it,
>> > I'll regret this plan.
>>
>> How about a phone holster? There's no screen scratching and an added
>> benefit is that it not only leaves the pants pocket free for more
>> important junk but is also easier to answer than a pocketed ringing
>> phone when sitting down. But be careful. Some cheap holsters can fall
>> off your belt and/or the phone fall out. Mine costs a bit more but
>> locks securely to my belt and also locks the phone in the holster
>> so accidental loss is near impossible...
>
> What (AFAIK) has not been mentioned yet, is a 'book cover'. I have
> used them for 'all' (three) my phones. (The first one was a 'flip' one,
> i.e. had the hinge at the bottom instead of on the left side, but the
> basic idea is the same.)
>
> They offer good/adequate protection, at least for my kind of use.
>
> Yes, it takes somewhat more time to pick up a phone call, but phone
> calls are *SO* last century.
>
> The inside normally has space for some creditcard-sized cards. So when
> I take my phone, I have all I need for most situations.
>
> Small downside: With the book cover, the phone does not fit well/
> easily in a holder to use for navigation while driving, so I have to
> take the phone out of the (flexible plastic) 'mounting' in the 'book'.
> That's a 'problem' for my T-Ford prototype, but more modern cars
> probably have Android Auto, so you can use the big screen for
> navigation.
>
> BUT, don't judge the book by its cover!

The pockets in women's pants are not all that functional, especially the
ones in 'cargo shorts' which will carry a credit card and driver's
license, a car key and maybe a lipstick. The book-cover things seem
desirable, but would never fit in a back pocket. Why in hell NOT make
women's jeans' front pockets longer?

I put a faux-leather back+edge cover on mine and a matte plastic screen
protector on the front. What I want is neon orange or green
(blinkylights would be even better) so I can find it easily in my purse,
but those colors seem to be out of fashion now. Either the protectors
have gotten better or I've gotten more skillful, because I put the last
one on without a single bubble. When the guy changed the battery he put
a few scratches in the protector, but they seem to be healing themselves
through some magical power. Matte is essential.

--
Cheers, Bev
"Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey
and car keys to teenage boys." -- P.J. O'Rourke

Am 11.06.23 um 19:43 schrieb AJL:
> On 6/11/2023 9:11 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> For a Smith & Wesson it is.
>
> My state (AZ-USA) allows open holster or concealed carry, no permit
> required. So the big decision of the day is: Gun in the pocket and phone
> in the holster or visa versa... ;)

Carry the phone in the pocket. Even in our age it is not a pleasure to
shoot the balls off unintentionally ... ;-)

--
De gustibus non est disputandum

In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 11 Jun 2023 08:45:17 -0400, micky
<NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

>In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 11 Jun 2023 09:25:23 +0100, Ed Cryer
><ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> wrote:
>
>>micky wrote:
>>> In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 10 Jun 2023 18:07:05 -0400, micky
>>> <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm sure you've talked about this before, but my quesion is a little
>>>> different:
>>>>
>>>> If I have Gorilla Glass 5 for my screen, do I still need a screen
>>>> protector?
>>>>
>>>> Do I want a film protector or tempered glass? I guess my big concern
>>>> is whether I can put it on straight and without bubbles, and whether it
>>>> makes tapping harder to do.
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>
>>> I should add that I carry my phone in my pocket with no keys or anything
>>> else that can scratch it -- I put such things in the other pocket -- and
>>> I've had it for 100 or 200 days without scratching it yet,
>>
>>Not needed. in fact, more of a hindrance than a help. Same goes for iPad
>>and other devices.
>
>Sounds good to me. I think you're the first person to tell me what I
>wanted to hear.
>>
>>I've been carrying mobile phones around everywhere I go for decades
>>(usually in a breast-high coat pocket) without detriment of any kind.
>
>>There are, however, some very clumsy people around. I've seen women
>>reach into bags and drop phones on the ground; teenagers who love to
>>throw their friends' phones around, and even pre-school kids drop cheap
>>ones. But I doubt a simple screen-protector would have benefitted there.
>
>This must be partly because they always have the phone in their hand,
>instead of a pocket I don't understand that.
>
>Have you seen the video -- I think think there are two different ones --
>of someone dropping her phone at Sea World or some such place, and the
>dolphin goes down, gets it, and brings it back up to her? It's not
>like they play Fetch with dolphins. He knew what was appropriate, by
>thinking, I guess.

From youtube, it seems like there is no organized playing of fetch with
dolphins, no training, but sometimes they do it spontaneiously.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=play+Fetch+with+dolphins.

What's interesting to me about this one is not the little boy and his
playmate, but all the people in the background. I guess they are paying
big bucks to swim with the dophines. I hope the dolphins don't mind.
It doesn't say where this was,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU3dGZkRoHU
I once went to some place like this but people were on a dock and
sometimes the dolphins would show up and I think you could pet them but
in the 15 minutes I was there, the dolphins all spurned me . Well I
don't take that from anyone so I got impatient and left. This was on
the sea and the dolphins were free to come and go to the sea and even
the ocean, but I think they hang out there because of medical care,
movies, and free food.
>
>>Ed

On 11.6.23 8:07 pm, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 6/11/23 10:53 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>> AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:
>>> On 6/11/2023 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
>>>
>>> > I will stop putting leaves and lawn trash in my right pocket and I
>>> > will turn all my pockets inside out to get rid of any sand or dirt
>>> > that is sitting at the bottom now. Of course, if I do scratch it,
>>> > I'll regret this plan.
>>>
>>> How about a phone holster? There's no screen scratching and an added
>>> benefit is that it not only leaves the pants pocket free for more
>>> important junk but is also easier to answer than a pocketed ringing
>>> phone when sitting down. But be careful. Some cheap holsters can fall
>>> off your belt and/or the phone fall out. Mine costs a bit more but
>>> locks securely to my belt and also locks the phone in the holster
>>> so accidental loss is near impossible...
>>
>> What (AFAIK) has not been mentioned yet, is a 'book cover'. I have
>> used them for 'all' (three) my phones. (The first one was a 'flip' one,
>> i.e. had the hinge at the bottom instead of on the left side, but the
>> basic idea is the same.)
>>
>> They offer good/adequate protection, at least for my kind of use.
>>
>> Yes, it takes somewhat more time to pick up a phone call, but phone
>> calls are *SO* last century.
>>
>> The inside normally has space for some creditcard-sized cards. So when
>> I take my phone, I have all I need for most situations.
>>
>> Small downside: With the book cover, the phone does not fit well/
>> easily in a holder to use for navigation while driving, so I have to
>> take the phone out of the (flexible plastic) 'mounting' in the 'book'.
>> That's a 'problem' for my T-Ford prototype, but more modern cars
>> probably have Android Auto, so you can use the big screen for
>> navigation.
>>
>> BUT, don't judge the book by its cover!
>
> The pockets in women's pants are not all that functional, especially the
> ones in 'cargo shorts' which will carry a credit card and driver's
> license, a car key and maybe a lipstick. The book-cover things seem
> desirable, but would never fit in a back pocket. Why in hell NOT make
> women's jeans' front pockets longer?
>
> I put a faux-leather back+edge cover on mine and a matte plastic screen
> protector on the front. What I want is neon orange or green
> (blinkylights would be even better) so I can find it easily in my purse,
> but those colors seem to be out of fashion now. Either the protectors
> have gotten better or I've gotten more skillful, because I put the last
> one on without a single bubble. When the guy changed the battery he put
> a few scratches in the protector, but they seem to be healing themselves
> through some magical power. Matte is essential.
>

I made my own. SWMBO gave me some leather-working tools to try to keep
me out of mischief for an hour or two, so I sewed up a thin leather case
that just fits the phone with a top flap that fastens down with a
popper, and a loop on the back to go on a belt. It's a tad like the belt
purses we used to wear to folk-club gatherings back when folk music was
trendy. I don't suppose it would go down a storm with the ladies though
- but it works and you don't have to search for it. I suppose a lot of
the youngsters have handbags anyway these days, now it's becoming
compulsory to be of a non-specific gender.

--
Bob,
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything. — Mark Twain

On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 08:51:29 -0700, AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:

>On 6/11/2023 5:47 AM, micky wrote:
>
>> I will stop putting leaves and lawn trash in my right pocket and I
>> will turn all my pockets inside out to get rid of any sand or dirt
>> that is sitting at the bottom now. Of course, if I do scratch it,
>> I'll regret this plan.
>
>How about a phone holster? There's no screen scratching and an added
>benefit is that it not only leaves the pants pocket free for more
>important junk but is also easier to answer than a pocketed ringing
>phone when sitting down. But be careful. Some cheap holsters can fall
>off your belt and/or the phone fall out. Mine costs a bit more but
>locks securely to my belt and also locks the phone in the holster
>so accidental loss is near impossible...

I've tried a couple and they fell off my belt. Which one do you have
that doesn't fall?

On 6/12/23 9:44 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Jun 2023 08:51:29 -0700, AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:

>>How about a phone holster? There's no screen scratching and an added
>>benefit is that it not only leaves the pants pocket free for more
>>important junk but is also easier to answer than a pocketed ringing
>>phone when sitting down. But be careful. Some cheap holsters can fall
>>off your belt and/or the phone fall out. Mine costs a bit more but
>>locks securely to my belt and also locks the phone in the holster
>>so accidental loss is near impossible...

>I've tried a couple and they fell off my belt.

You need a holster that has to be threaded on, not clipped over your belt.
The only way it can fall off is for your belt to break.

>Which one do you have that doesn't fall?

I've had my holster for years. And even if I remembered the particulars it
probably wouldn't fit your phone. Try Amazon. Search for a holster for your
model. There will be many, most of which use clips. But there should be
several that thread on and thus can't fall off...