Not bicycle related at all. Sorry about the breaking of the rules.

Covid has been discussed at length in numerous threads and posts on this forum. So I thought I would add another Covid discussion. Apologies if anyone is offended.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/shunned-covid-19-vaccines-embraced-152512171.html

Title: "They Shunned COVID-19 Vaccines but Embraced Antibody Treatment"

Some passages from the article:
"The answer turned out to be monoclonal antibodies, a 1-year-old, laboratory-created drug no less experimental than the vaccine. In a glass-walled enclosure at Houston Methodist Hospital this month, Jones, 65, became one of more than a million patients, including Donald Trump and Joe Rogan, to receive an antibody infusion as the virus has battered the United States."

"Vaccine-resistant Americans are turning to the treatment with a zeal that has, at times, mystified their doctors, chasing down lengthy infusions after rejecting vaccines that cost one-hundredth as much."

"that the Biden administration warned states this week of a dwindling national supply.
The federal government, which was already covering the cost of the treatment — currently about $2,100 per dose — has now taken over its distribution as well. For the coming weeks, the government has told states to expect scaled-back shipments because of the looming shortages."

$20 vaccine or $2100 monoclonal antibody treatment. ?????????? Them Republicans are good with money and finances.

"With seven Southern states accounting for 70% of orders,"

"Some Republican governors have set up antibody clinics while opposing vaccine mandates, frustrating even some of the drugs’ strongest proponents. Raising vaccination rates, scientists said, would obviate the need for many of the costly antibody treatments in the first place. The infusions take about an hour and a half, including monitoring afterward, and require constant attention from nurses whom hard-hit states often cannot spare."

“It’s clogging up resources, it’s hard to give, and a vaccine is $20 and could prevent almost all of that,” said Dr. Christian Ramers, an infectious disease specialist and the chief of population health at Family Health Centers of San Diego, a community-based provider.. Pushing antibodies while playing down vaccines, he said, was “like investing in car insurance without investing in brakes.”

"Juggling the infusions with more seriously ill COVID-19 patients this summer forced the hospital, in one case, to move a monoclonal antibody clinic to a strip mall storefront."

Moving a medical clinic into a strip mall storefront? Isn't America's health care system great?

"Still, waning federal supplies and soaring demand from less-vaccinated Southern states have caused what several states have described as large shortfalls in deliveries."

"North Carolina providers have requested 15,000 weekly doses, the health department there said, more than double what the federal government has allocated. Florida said its latest weekly allotment left clinics there 41,000 doses short of what they wanted."

"But the Department of Health and Human Services will now decide how many doses each state receives based on case rates and use of the treatment. State governments, in turn, will decide on doses for individual sites."

"The new ordering process, which the Biden administration said would ensure “equitable distribution,” has unsettled some backers of the drug."

"Whereas any one vaccination protects untold others from exposure, a single infusion only helps a single patient. Infusions must be given within 10 days of symptoms; they are unhelpful to most hospitalized patients. And receiving the antibodies once does not keep people from becoming seriously ill if they catch the virus again later."

On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 1:09:23 PM UTC-7, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> Not bicycle related at all. Sorry about the breaking of the rules.
>
> Covid has been discussed at length in numerous threads and posts on this forum. So I thought I would add another Covid discussion. Apologies if anyone is offended.
>
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/shunned-covid-19-vaccines-embraced-152512171.html
>
> Title: "They Shunned COVID-19 Vaccines but Embraced Antibody Treatment"
>
> Some passages from the article:
> "The answer turned out to be monoclonal antibodies, a 1-year-old, laboratory-created drug no less experimental than the vaccine. In a glass-walled enclosure at Houston Methodist Hospital this month, Jones, 65, became one of more than a million patients, including Donald Trump and Joe Rogan, to receive an antibody infusion as the virus has battered the United States."
>
> "Vaccine-resistant Americans are turning to the treatment with a zeal that has, at times, mystified their doctors, chasing down lengthy infusions after rejecting vaccines that cost one-hundredth as much."
>
> "that the Biden administration warned states this week of a dwindling national supply.
> The federal government, which was already covering the cost of the treatment — currently about $2,100 per dose — has now taken over its distribution as well. For the coming weeks, the government has told states to expect scaled-back shipments because of the looming shortages."
>
> $20 vaccine or $2100 monoclonal antibody treatment. ?????????? Them Republicans are good with money and finances.
>
> "With seven Southern states accounting for 70% of orders,"
>
> "Some Republican governors have set up antibody clinics while opposing vaccine mandates, frustrating even some of the drugs’ strongest proponents. Raising vaccination rates, scientists said, would obviate the need for many of the costly antibody treatments in the first place. The infusions take about an hour and a half, including monitoring afterward, and require constant attention from nurses whom hard-hit states often cannot spare."
>
> “It’s clogging up resources, it’s hard to give, and a vaccine is $20 and could prevent almost all of that,” said Dr. Christian Ramers, an infectious disease specialist and the chief of population health at Family Health Centers of San Diego, a community-based provider. Pushing antibodies while playing down vaccines, he said, was “like investing in car insurance without investing in brakes.”
>
> "Juggling the infusions with more seriously ill COVID-19 patients this summer forced the hospital, in one case, to move a monoclonal antibody clinic to a strip mall storefront."
>
> Moving a medical clinic into a strip mall storefront? Isn't America's health care system great?
>
> "Still, waning federal supplies and soaring demand from less-vaccinated Southern states have caused what several states have described as large shortfalls in deliveries."
>
> "North Carolina providers have requested 15,000 weekly doses, the health department there said, more than double what the federal government has allocated. Florida said its latest weekly allotment left clinics there 41,000 doses short of what they wanted."
>
> "But the Department of Health and Human Services will now decide how many doses each state receives based on case rates and use of the treatment. State governments, in turn, will decide on doses for individual sites."
>
> "The new ordering process, which the Biden administration said would ensure “equitable distribution,” has unsettled some backers of the drug."
>
> "Whereas any one vaccination protects untold others from exposure, a single infusion only helps a single patient. Infusions must be given within 10 days of symptoms; they are unhelpful to most hospitalized patients. And receiving the antibodies once does not keep people from becoming seriously ill if they catch the virus again later."
I wonder if you are EVER going to grow up. Maybe Mommy spanked you one too many times and you started to like it?

Monoclonal antibodies are laboratory-made replicas of the natural antibodies that your immune system makes when you are infected with a disease. They are identical to the naturally occurring proteins.

I understand that this is "like really hard" for you to understand. Vaccines on the other hand are a mixtures of materials that are supposed to LOOK and ACT like the disease without actually becoming the disease. This is supposed to force an immune response but once they said there was 97 or 98% effectiveness that was showing that it was pure bullshit like you prefer for dinner. NO vaccines are that effective unless they are so dangerous that they can bring on the disease they are supposed to prevent.

Actual experience with the present mRNA vaccines are showing large numbers of deaths and long term injuries because they are changing the electrical charges between red corpuscles thus causing them to clump together. This can become either relatively minor causing PERMANENT spider veins or serious enough to cause heart failures especially in people with atherosclerosis.

Apparently you cannot tell the difference between a dangerous experimental vaccine that is RECORDED as killing 5 or 6 people for everyone it saves and a relatively harmless TREATMENT. Your article is written by a moron who appears to think that India EVER had a lot of people dying from covid-19 when they did not because they are the world's largest producer of Ivermectin which is a proven cure of serious cases (almost entirely people over 50) within 48 hours of use. Ivermectin causes body cells to cease reproducing viruses. And they have used it on a dozen difference viruses with equal function. As of today, they are beginning to think that this drug that is derived from a mold (Avermectin) which is the only known one of its kind may be an end even to cancer. It appears to have the property of allowing cells to regulate their own proper growth cycles.

I suppose I should ask you why you think that you know shit from Shinola about anything. If monoclonal antibodies are given to a person that has covid-19 THEY DEVELOP the SAME IMMUNITY that getting over it does. Whatever ass wrote that and which you have absolutely no knowledge about what he was writing which surprises me not since you quoted it.

No one on this group should find it surprising that the people that know the least about these things seem ready, willing and able to criticize anyone who does.

I suggest you stop trying like John, to impress people by copying shit off of the Internet and repeating it like a fucking parrot. We can at least understand it in John since he is old and demented and probably shits his pants regularly. That's why he lives in Thailand where he can afford close medical support.

Tell you what - try man-made climate change since you probably know as much about that as anything else.

russellseaton1@yahoo.com <ritzannaseaton@gmail.com> wrote:
> Not bicycle related at all. Sorry about the breaking of the rules.
>
> Covid has been discussed at length in numerous threads and posts on this
> forum. So I thought I would add another Covid discussion. Apologies if
> anyone is offended.
>
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/shunned-covid-19-vaccines-embraced-152512171.html
>
> Title: "They Shunned COVID-19 Vaccines but Embraced Antibody Treatment"
>
> Some passages from the article:
> "The answer turned out to be monoclonal antibodies, a 1-year-old,
> laboratory-created drug no less experimental than the vaccine. In a
> glass-walled enclosure at Houston Methodist Hospital this month, Jones,
> 65, became one of more than a million patients, including Donald Trump
> and Joe Rogan, to receive an antibody infusion as the virus has battered
> the United States."
>
> "Vaccine-resistant Americans are turning to the treatment with a zeal
> that has, at times, mystified their doctors, chasing down lengthy
> infusions after rejecting vaccines that cost one-hundredth as much."
>
> "that the Biden administration warned states this week of a dwindling national supply.
> The federal government, which was already covering the cost of the
> treatment — currently about $2,100 per dose — has now taken over its
> distribution as well. For the coming weeks, the government has told
> states to expect scaled-back shipments because of the looming shortages."
>
> $20 vaccine or $2100 monoclonal antibody treatment. ?????????? Them
> Republicans are good with money and finances.
>
> "With seven Southern states accounting for 70% of orders,"
>
> "Some Republican governors have set up antibody clinics while opposing
> vaccine mandates, frustrating even some of the drugs’ strongest
> proponents. Raising vaccination rates, scientists said, would obviate the
> need for many of the costly antibody treatments in the first place. The
> infusions take about an hour and a half, including monitoring afterward,
> and require constant attention from nurses whom hard-hit states often cannot spare."
>
> “It’s clogging up resources, it’s hard to give, and a vaccine is $20 and
> could prevent almost all of that,” said Dr. Christian Ramers, an
> infectious disease specialist and the chief of population health at
> Family Health Centers of San Diego, a community-based provider. Pushing
> antibodies while playing down vaccines, he said, was “like investing in
> car insurance without investing in brakes.”
>
> "Juggling the infusions with more seriously ill COVID-19 patients this
> summer forced the hospital, in one case, to move a monoclonal antibody
> clinic to a strip mall storefront."
>
> Moving a medical clinic into a strip mall storefront? Isn't America's
> health care system great?
>
> "Still, waning federal supplies and soaring demand from less-vaccinated
> Southern states have caused what several states have described as large
> shortfalls in deliveries."
>
> "North Carolina providers have requested 15,000 weekly doses, the health
> department there said, more than double what the federal government has
> allocated. Florida said its latest weekly allotment left clinics there
> 41,000 doses short of what they wanted."
>
> "But the Department of Health and Human Services will now decide how many
> doses each state receives based on case rates and use of the treatment.
> State governments, in turn, will decide on doses for individual sites."
>
> "The new ordering process, which the Biden administration said would
> ensure “equitable distribution,” has unsettled some backers of the drug."
>
> "Whereas any one vaccination protects untold others from exposure, a
> single infusion only helps a single patient. Infusions must be given
> within 10 days of symptoms; they are unhelpful to most hospitalized
> patients. And receiving the antibodies once does not keep people from
> becoming seriously ill if they catch the virus again later."
>

It’s “The American Way”. Focus on expensive treatments while neglecting
inexpensive preventative measures.

On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 7:54:00 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
> russell...@yahoo.com <ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Not bicycle related at all. Sorry about the breaking of the rules.
> >
> > Covid has been discussed at length in numerous threads and posts on this
> > forum. So I thought I would add another Covid discussion. Apologies if
> > anyone is offended.
> >
> > https://www.yahoo.com/news/shunned-covid-19-vaccines-embraced-152512171..html
> >
> > Title: "They Shunned COVID-19 Vaccines but Embraced Antibody Treatment"
> >
> > Some passages from the article:
> > "The answer turned out to be monoclonal antibodies, a 1-year-old,
> > laboratory-created drug no less experimental than the vaccine. In a
> > glass-walled enclosure at Houston Methodist Hospital this month, Jones,
> > 65, became one of more than a million patients, including Donald Trump
> > and Joe Rogan, to receive an antibody infusion as the virus has battered
> > the United States."
> >
> > "Vaccine-resistant Americans are turning to the treatment with a zeal
> > that has, at times, mystified their doctors, chasing down lengthy
> > infusions after rejecting vaccines that cost one-hundredth as much."
> >
> > "that the Biden administration warned states this week of a dwindling national supply.
> > The federal government, which was already covering the cost of the
> > treatment — currently about $2,100 per dose — has now taken over its
> > distribution as well. For the coming weeks, the government has told
> > states to expect scaled-back shipments because of the looming shortages.."
> >
> > $20 vaccine or $2100 monoclonal antibody treatment. ?????????? Them
> > Republicans are good with money and finances.
> >
> > "With seven Southern states accounting for 70% of orders,"
> >
> > "Some Republican governors have set up antibody clinics while opposing
> > vaccine mandates, frustrating even some of the drugs’ strongest
> > proponents. Raising vaccination rates, scientists said, would obviate the
> > need for many of the costly antibody treatments in the first place. The
> > infusions take about an hour and a half, including monitoring afterward,
> > and require constant attention from nurses whom hard-hit states often cannot spare."
> >
> > “It’s clogging up resources, it’s hard to give, and a vaccine is $20 and
> > could prevent almost all of that,” said Dr. Christian Ramers, an
> > infectious disease specialist and the chief of population health at
> > Family Health Centers of San Diego, a community-based provider. Pushing
> > antibodies while playing down vaccines, he said, was “like investing in
> > car insurance without investing in brakes.”
> >
> > "Juggling the infusions with more seriously ill COVID-19 patients this
> > summer forced the hospital, in one case, to move a monoclonal antibody
> > clinic to a strip mall storefront."
> >
> > Moving a medical clinic into a strip mall storefront? Isn't America's
> > health care system great?
> >
> > "Still, waning federal supplies and soaring demand from less-vaccinated
> > Southern states have caused what several states have described as large
> > shortfalls in deliveries."
> >
> > "North Carolina providers have requested 15,000 weekly doses, the health
> > department there said, more than double what the federal government has
> > allocated. Florida said its latest weekly allotment left clinics there
> > 41,000 doses short of what they wanted."
> >
> > "But the Department of Health and Human Services will now decide how many
> > doses each state receives based on case rates and use of the treatment.
> > State governments, in turn, will decide on doses for individual sites."
> >
> > "The new ordering process, which the Biden administration said would
> > ensure “equitable distribution,” has unsettled some backers of the drug."
> >
> > "Whereas any one vaccination protects untold others from exposure, a
> > single infusion only helps a single patient. Infusions must be given
> > within 10 days of symptoms; they are unhelpful to most hospitalized
> > patients. And receiving the antibodies once does not keep people from
> > becoming seriously ill if they catch the virus again later."
> >
> It’s “The American Way”. Focus on expensive treatments while neglecting
> inexpensive preventative measures.
Ralph, antibodies are a treatment AFTER you get covid-19. At that point the vaccine if you had it plainly didn't work. And it appears that the reason they are not pushing "booster" shots is because the vaccines are not working after all.

Just as a warning - if you believe anything that comes from Fauci, you are barking up the wrong tree. Here is a Nobe l Prize winner from the time before they corrupted themselves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkqQIY7J0fQ

On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 20:06:39 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 7:54:00 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
>> russell...@yahoo.com <ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Not bicycle related at all. Sorry about the breaking of the rules.
>> >
>> > Covid has been discussed at length in numerous threads and posts on this
>> > forum. So I thought I would add another Covid discussion. Apologies if
>> > anyone is offended.
>> >
>> > https://www.yahoo.com/news/shunned-covid-19-vaccines-embraced-152512171.html
>> >
>> > Title: "They Shunned COVID-19 Vaccines but Embraced Antibody Treatment"
>> >
>> > Some passages from the article:
>> > "The answer turned out to be monoclonal antibodies, a 1-year-old,
>> > laboratory-created drug no less experimental than the vaccine. In a
>> > glass-walled enclosure at Houston Methodist Hospital this month, Jones,
>> > 65, became one of more than a million patients, including Donald Trump
>> > and Joe Rogan, to receive an antibody infusion as the virus has battered
>> > the United States."
>> >
>> > "Vaccine-resistant Americans are turning to the treatment with a zeal
>> > that has, at times, mystified their doctors, chasing down lengthy
>> > infusions after rejecting vaccines that cost one-hundredth as much."
>> >
>> > "that the Biden administration warned states this week of a dwindling national supply.
>> > The federal government, which was already covering the cost of the
>> > treatment — currently about $2,100 per dose — has now taken over its
>> > distribution as well. For the coming weeks, the government has told
>> > states to expect scaled-back shipments because of the looming shortages."
>> >
>> > $20 vaccine or $2100 monoclonal antibody treatment. ?????????? Them
>> > Republicans are good with money and finances.
>> >
>> > "With seven Southern states accounting for 70% of orders,"
>> >
>> > "Some Republican governors have set up antibody clinics while opposing
>> > vaccine mandates, frustrating even some of the drugs’ strongest
>> > proponents. Raising vaccination rates, scientists said, would obviate the
>> > need for many of the costly antibody treatments in the first place. The
>> > infusions take about an hour and a half, including monitoring afterward,
>> > and require constant attention from nurses whom hard-hit states often cannot spare."
>> >
>> > “It’s clogging up resources, it’s hard to give, and a vaccine is $20 and
>> > could prevent almost all of that,” said Dr. Christian Ramers, an
>> > infectious disease specialist and the chief of population health at
>> > Family Health Centers of San Diego, a community-based provider. Pushing
>> > antibodies while playing down vaccines, he said, was “like investing in
>> > car insurance without investing in brakes.”
>> >
>> > "Juggling the infusions with more seriously ill COVID-19 patients this
>> > summer forced the hospital, in one case, to move a monoclonal antibody
>> > clinic to a strip mall storefront."
>> >
>> > Moving a medical clinic into a strip mall storefront? Isn't America's
>> > health care system great?
>> >
>> > "Still, waning federal supplies and soaring demand from less-vaccinated
>> > Southern states have caused what several states have described as large
>> > shortfalls in deliveries."
>> >
>> > "North Carolina providers have requested 15,000 weekly doses, the health
>> > department there said, more than double what the federal government has
>> > allocated. Florida said its latest weekly allotment left clinics there
>> > 41,000 doses short of what they wanted."
>> >
>> > "But the Department of Health and Human Services will now decide how many
>> > doses each state receives based on case rates and use of the treatment.
>> > State governments, in turn, will decide on doses for individual sites."
>> >
>> > "The new ordering process, which the Biden administration said would
>> > ensure “equitable distribution,” has unsettled some backers of the drug."
>> >
>> > "Whereas any one vaccination protects untold others from exposure, a
>> > single infusion only helps a single patient. Infusions must be given
>> > within 10 days of symptoms; they are unhelpful to most hospitalized
>> > patients. And receiving the antibodies once does not keep people from
>> > becoming seriously ill if they catch the virus again later."
>> >
>> It’s “The American Way”. Focus on expensive treatments while neglecting
>> inexpensive preventative measures.
>Ralph, antibodies are a treatment AFTER you get covid-19. At that point the vaccine if you had it plainly didn't work. And it appears that the reason they are not pushing "booster" shots is because the vaccines are not working after all.
>
>Just as a warning - if you believe anything that comes from Fauci, you
are barking up the wrong tree. Here is a Nobe l Prize winner from the
time before they corrupted themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkqQIY7J0fQ

(:-)

What Tommy isn't, telling you is that the chap in his youtube
presentation is:

A 2007 New York Times article listed Mullis as one of several
scientists who, after success in their area of research, go on to make
unfounded, sometimes bizarre statements in other areas.[46] In his
1998 humorous autobiography proclaiming his maverick viewpoint, Mullis
expressed disagreement with the scientific evidence supporting climate
change and ozone depletion, the evidence that HIV causes AIDS, and
asserted his belief in astrology. Mullis claimed climate change and
HIV/AIDS theories were promulgated as a form of racketeering by
environmentalists, government agencies, and scientists attempting to
preserve their careers and earn money, rather than scientific
evidence.

The medical and scientific consensus considers these hypotheses as
pseudoscience, HIV having been conclusively proven to be the cause of
AIDS[48][49] and global warming strongly shown to be caused by human
activities.[50][51][52]
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 7:29:44 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Actual experience with the present mRNA vaccines are showing large numbers of deaths and long term injuries because they are changing the electrical charges between red corpuscles thus causing them to clump together. This can become either relatively minor causing PERMANENT spider veins or serious enough to cause heart failures especially in people with atherosclerosis.
>

Tommy, tommy, tommy. Please provide a reliable, verifiable source for your claim that the Covid vaccine is killing so many people. The CDC says Covid has killed about 670,565 USA citizens now.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home

On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 8:52:49 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Sep 2021 20:06:39 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 7:54:00 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
> >> russell...@yahoo.com <ritzann...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Not bicycle related at all. Sorry about the breaking of the rules.
> >> >
> >> > Covid has been discussed at length in numerous threads and posts on this
> >> > forum. So I thought I would add another Covid discussion. Apologies if
> >> > anyone is offended.
> >> >
> >> > https://www.yahoo.com/news/shunned-covid-19-vaccines-embraced-152512171.html
> >> >
> >> > Title: "They Shunned COVID-19 Vaccines but Embraced Antibody Treatment"
> >> >
> >> > Some passages from the article:
> >> > "The answer turned out to be monoclonal antibodies, a 1-year-old,
> >> > laboratory-created drug no less experimental than the vaccine. In a
> >> > glass-walled enclosure at Houston Methodist Hospital this month, Jones,
> >> > 65, became one of more than a million patients, including Donald Trump
> >> > and Joe Rogan, to receive an antibody infusion as the virus has battered
> >> > the United States."
> >> >
> >> > "Vaccine-resistant Americans are turning to the treatment with a zeal
> >> > that has, at times, mystified their doctors, chasing down lengthy
> >> > infusions after rejecting vaccines that cost one-hundredth as much."
> >> >
> >> > "that the Biden administration warned states this week of a dwindling national supply.
> >> > The federal government, which was already covering the cost of the
> >> > treatment — currently about $2,100 per dose — has now taken over its
> >> > distribution as well. For the coming weeks, the government has told
> >> > states to expect scaled-back shipments because of the looming shortages."
> >> >
> >> > $20 vaccine or $2100 monoclonal antibody treatment. ?????????? Them
> >> > Republicans are good with money and finances.
> >> >
> >> > "With seven Southern states accounting for 70% of orders,"
> >> >
> >> > "Some Republican governors have set up antibody clinics while opposing
> >> > vaccine mandates, frustrating even some of the drugs’ strongest
> >> > proponents. Raising vaccination rates, scientists said, would obviate the
> >> > need for many of the costly antibody treatments in the first place. The
> >> > infusions take about an hour and a half, including monitoring afterward,
> >> > and require constant attention from nurses whom hard-hit states often cannot spare."
> >> >
> >> > “It’s clogging up resources, it’s hard to give, and a vaccine is $20 and
> >> > could prevent almost all of that,” said Dr. Christian Ramers, an
> >> > infectious disease specialist and the chief of population health at
> >> > Family Health Centers of San Diego, a community-based provider. Pushing
> >> > antibodies while playing down vaccines, he said, was “like investing in
> >> > car insurance without investing in brakes.”
> >> >
> >> > "Juggling the infusions with more seriously ill COVID-19 patients this
> >> > summer forced the hospital, in one case, to move a monoclonal antibody
> >> > clinic to a strip mall storefront."
> >> >
> >> > Moving a medical clinic into a strip mall storefront? Isn't America's
> >> > health care system great?
> >> >
> >> > "Still, waning federal supplies and soaring demand from less-vaccinated
> >> > Southern states have caused what several states have described as large
> >> > shortfalls in deliveries."
> >> >
> >> > "North Carolina providers have requested 15,000 weekly doses, the health
> >> > department there said, more than double what the federal government has
> >> > allocated. Florida said its latest weekly allotment left clinics there
> >> > 41,000 doses short of what they wanted."
> >> >
> >> > "But the Department of Health and Human Services will now decide how many
> >> > doses each state receives based on case rates and use of the treatment.
> >> > State governments, in turn, will decide on doses for individual sites."
> >> >
> >> > "The new ordering process, which the Biden administration said would
> >> > ensure “equitable distribution,” has unsettled some backers of the drug."
> >> >
> >> > "Whereas any one vaccination protects untold others from exposure, a
> >> > single infusion only helps a single patient. Infusions must be given
> >> > within 10 days of symptoms; they are unhelpful to most hospitalized
> >> > patients. And receiving the antibodies once does not keep people from
> >> > becoming seriously ill if they catch the virus again later."
> >> >
> >> It’s “The American Way”. Focus on expensive treatments while neglecting
> >> inexpensive preventative measures.
> >Ralph, antibodies are a treatment AFTER you get covid-19. At that point the vaccine if you had it plainly didn't work. And it appears that the reason they are not pushing "booster" shots is because the vaccines are not working after all.
> >
> >Just as a warning - if you believe anything that comes from Fauci, you
> are barking up the wrong tree. Here is a Nobe l Prize winner from the
> time before they corrupted themselves.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkqQIY7J0fQ
> (:-)
>
> What Tommy isn't, telling you is that the chap in his youtube
> presentation is:
>
> A 2007 New York Times article listed Mullis as one of several
> scientists who, after success in their area of research, go on to make
> unfounded, sometimes bizarre statements in other areas.[46] In his
> 1998 humorous autobiography proclaiming his maverick viewpoint, Mullis
> expressed disagreement with the scientific evidence supporting climate
> change and ozone depletion, the evidence that HIV causes AIDS, and
> asserted his belief in astrology. Mullis claimed climate change and
> HIV/AIDS theories were promulgated as a form of racketeering by
> environmentalists, government agencies, and scientists attempting to
> preserve their careers and earn money, rather than scientific
> evidence.
>
> The medical and scientific consensus considers these hypotheses as
> pseudoscience, HIV having been conclusively proven to be the cause of
> AIDS[48][49] and global warming strongly shown to be caused by human
> activities.[50][51][52]

There you have direct from John the crew chief of a non-existent bomber and the New York Times vs. the Nobel Prize in Chemistry inventor of PCR and subsequent use of it to sequence DNA.

Tell us more about this John, you're just SOOO smart we can't wait to hear from you.

On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 9:56:32 PM UTC-7, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 7:29:44 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Actual experience with the present mRNA vaccines are showing large numbers of deaths and long term injuries because they are changing the electrical charges between red corpuscles thus causing them to clump together. This can become either relatively minor causing PERMANENT spider veins or serious enough to cause heart failures especially in people with atherosclerosis..
> >
> Tommy, tommy, tommy. Please provide a reliable, verifiable source for your claim that the Covid vaccine is killing so many people. The CDC says Covid has killed about 670,565 USA citizens now.
> https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home

To you, this is proof of nothing little Goebbels child. https://newsrescue.com/watch-bombshell-testimony-at-fda-vaccine-hearing-injections-killing-more-than-saving-driving-variants-re-all-cause-mortality/

On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 9:56:32 PM UTC-7, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 7:29:44 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > Actual experience with the present mRNA vaccines are showing large numbers of deaths and long term injuries because they are changing the electrical charges between red corpuscles thus causing them to clump together. This can become either relatively minor causing PERMANENT spider veins or serious enough to cause heart failures especially in people with atherosclerosis..
> >
> Tommy, tommy, tommy. Please provide a reliable, verifiable source for your claim that the Covid vaccine is killing so many people. The CDC says Covid has killed about 670,565 USA citizens now.
> https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home
I would like you to tell me what you know about science or particularly medicine? Aside from your arguing Joe Biden's bullshit, what do you know or what experience do you have?

On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 1:29:44 AM UTC+1, cycl...@gmail.com wrote to :russell the yahoo:
>
> Tell you what - try man-made climate change since you probably know as much about that as anything else.
>
You owe me a keyboard, Tom. I have yet to run into a pinko who knows anything at all about global warming. Russell's far too slack to commit even the minimum diligence for those who want to discuss global warming seriously of reading the IPCC reports right through -- and I mean the reports, not the executive summaries which are wishful thinking quite at odds with the actual reports.

Andre Jute
:Laughter pumps adrenaline into the system.

On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:54:00 AM UTC+1, Ralph Barone wrote:
>
> It’s “The American Way”. Focus on expensive treatments while neglecting
> inexpensive preventative measures.
>
The American way has been made artificially expensive by the huge delays and costa laid on pharmaceutical inventions by an overweening bureaucracy. That's a very European, EU thing, socialist in concept and execution, not American at all. Or at least it wasn't the American freewheeling way even within living memory. -- AJ

On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 11:57:59 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:54:00 AM UTC+1, Ralph Barone wrote:
> >
> > It’s “The American Way”. Focus on expensive treatments while neglecting
> > inexpensive preventative measures.
> >
> The American way has been made artificially expensive by the huge delays and costa laid on pharmaceutical inventions by an overweening bureaucracy. That's a very European, EU thing, socialist in concept and execution, not American at all. Or at least it wasn't the American freewheeling way even within living memory. -- AJ

After the Democrats who have ALWAYS been for the rich, since that is the source of their campaign funding, discovered that all they had to say was "Tax the Rich" and they would haul in votes by the millions from people like Frank and Russell, who as a CPA should know better, and then do absolutely nothing to the rich while they increase the taxes of the little man who, after all, it the one that actually pays all of the bills.

What the Democrat Radicals who are now running government intend to do it lock themselves into power and continue the status quo forever if possible.

How are things actually fixed? By closing up the huge bureaucracy that the BOTH parties have installed to prove just how much they care about the little man. And all they have to wait for is the next Cause du Jour so that they can manipulate it to gain still more followings of people looking for jobs in a newer richer government bureaucracy.

I find it comical how juvenile that a lot of the posters here are. We can clearly expect this from John judging his age and declining mental capacity, but what do you say about a CPA who has actual access to the numbers and a supposed education that would allow him to calculate the results? What do you say about Jay handing out his "legal advice" on subjects that people with long experience in the areas he is talking about have not only never seen but ever heard of. Jay on bicycle cannot be argued with. But filing patents on other people's inventions? How do you prove in court that you made a patentable improvement and not the inventor suggesting them? The very thought is preposterous.

One of my designs and programs was a gas chromatograph so I have a good working knowledge of spectrometry. This allows me to knowing that the absorption bands of CO2 and the Emission bands of the sun do not match and that most of the emissions that reach the Earth are converted into infrared radiation and then passed into the upper atmosphere via simple conduction. Obviously this is true because - the sky is blue and not black and the lower atmosphere is warm because conduction is much slower than radiation.

What do these jokers tell us? That the fact that Venus is much hotter than the sunny side of Mercury proves that the CO2 contents of Venus causes massive global warming. To that I say - Venus receives something like 4 times the energy of Earth and their atmospheric density is 100 times that of Earth and so the energy has to bleed oh so slowly out of Venus. That IR radiation has to be converted to a higher wavelength to escape so the heat is trapped inside of their atmosphere while sunlight at the edge of the atmosphere heats each individual molecule to the point at which the energy finally reaches into the light wavebands allowing it to escape only for the heat of the next lower molecule to conduct into the top layer for the whole thing to continue in an unbroken game of tag.

Facts have never deterred the sheepish followers of any new "death threat" so they choose to ignore reality and think of their latest threat to life and limb.

On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 1:23:57 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 9:56:32 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 7:29:44 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Actual experience with the present mRNA vaccines are showing large numbers of deaths and long term injuries because they are changing the electrical charges between red corpuscles thus causing them to clump together. This can become either relatively minor causing PERMANENT spider veins or serious enough to cause heart failures especially in people with atherosclerosis.
> > >
> > Tommy, tommy, tommy. Please provide a reliable, verifiable source for your claim that the Covid vaccine is killing so many people. The CDC says Covid has killed about 670,565 USA citizens now.
> > https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home
> To you, this is proof of nothing little Goebbels child. https://newsrescue.com/watch-bombshell-testimony-at-fda-vaccine-hearing-injections-killing-more-than-saving-driving-variants-re-all-cause-mortality/

Tommy, tommy, tommy. Are you really as dumb as you make yourself out to be on this forum?

Your link above is from some website "newsrescue". On its website it has the following description:
"Founded in 2007, NewsRescue is a New York-based news media platform dedicated to the rescue, recovery and elucidation of the truth in the news.

In 2007 we discovered the prevalence of fake news, biases, misleading and totally false skews abound in many mainstream media and dedicated to creating this platform for the benefit of the truth-seeking masses who do not have time to factcheck the mainstream and scan for important news updates.

Our editorial board consists of full time and part time citizen journalists who scour the world for important news stories that need rescuing.

Tim Yousef, Editor-in-chief"

You selected a link to some nut case right wing conservative whacko internet. Tommy, I know you have no education at all. And are very ignorant. But I will tell you when you quote people, or use references, the source is very important. You should always select factual, knowledgeable, believable sources. Not nut case places with a clear agenda. Such as if you are claiming financial prosperity you would cite stock market changes and unemployment and GDP growth. Facts that show prosperity over time or decline. You don't just say "Trump is a GOD and made everyone rich". No, you have to support that with believable relevant sources like I just listed. But you select a right wing nut case website to get your information from. Typical of you.

And the sources/people cited in the nefarious article are very questionable.. The first one is a Steve Kirsch. Here is the Wikipedia page on him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Kirsch Here is a quote from that page. "In May 2021, Kirsch posted an article online making an unfounded claim that COVID-19 vaccines affect fertility, while also underplaying the vaccines' ability to prevent illness and death.[11] The following month, Kirsch appeared in a YouTube video posted with Bret Weinstein and Robert W. Malone to discuss COVID-19 vaccines. In the video, Kirsch makes several false claims, including that spike proteins used in COVID-19 vaccines are "very dangerous".[12][13]" So you can see he is a bit of a quack in this. With an agenda of some kind.

There is also a Dr. Jessica Rose cited in the article. I was unable to determine exactly who she is since a Google search turned up many people with that name and Dr. title. So I will just go on record as saying she probably fits into the nut case right wing something on their agenda category too. Like the Steve Kirsch fellow.

On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 1:32:24 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 9:56:32 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 7:29:44 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Actual experience with the present mRNA vaccines are showing large numbers of deaths and long term injuries because they are changing the electrical charges between red corpuscles thus causing them to clump together. This can become either relatively minor causing PERMANENT spider veins or serious enough to cause heart failures especially in people with atherosclerosis.
> > >
> > Tommy, tommy, tommy. Please provide a reliable, verifiable source for your claim that the Covid vaccine is killing so many people. The CDC says Covid has killed about 670,565 USA citizens now.
> > https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home
> I would like you to tell me what you know about science or particularly medicine? Aside from your arguing Joe Biden's bullshit, what do you know or what experience do you have?

????? Is this another one of your infamous change the subject to deflect the fact you cannot answer the question I posed? Looks like it. I simply stated to provide links and/or sources for your claims that the vaccine killed so many people. A very simple request by me that you do not want to answer it seems. Again, typical of you and your kind.

On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 1:23:57 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 9:56:32 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 7:29:44 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > Actual experience with the present mRNA vaccines are showing large numbers of deaths and long term injuries because they are changing the electrical charges between red corpuscles thus causing them to clump together. This can become either relatively minor causing PERMANENT spider veins or serious enough to cause heart failures especially in people with atherosclerosis.
> > >
> > Tommy, tommy, tommy. Please provide a reliable, verifiable source for your claim that the Covid vaccine is killing so many people. The CDC says Covid has killed about 670,565 USA citizens now.
> > https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home
> To you, this is proof of nothing little Goebbels child. https://newsrescue.com/watch-bombshell-testimony-at-fda-vaccine-hearing-injections-killing-more-than-saving-driving-variants-re-all-cause-mortality/

Tommy, tommy, tommy. Here is another link, supporter for you to use in your lies.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/one-lawyers-rise-shows-vaccine-154812801.html
"Shawn Boburg and Jon Swaine
Mon, September 20, 2021, 10:48 AM
In one of dozens of recent media appearances, Ohio attorney Thomas Renz was claiming that coronavirus vaccines were more harmful than the virus itself.. "The people that are dying are vaccinated," he said on a conservative online talk show in July.

As Renz spoke, a message flashed across the screen with his website address.. "Donate to his cause," it urged."

"It is a highly visible role for Renz, 44, who passed the Ohio bar exam in November 2019 on his fifth attempt and has limited litigation experience, according to a Washington Post examination of his career."

We will need Jay's help to tell us if it is normal for a lawyer to need five attempts to pass the bar exam. Jay being a lawyer he might have some knowledge and perspective on this. I ride bikes with several attorneys but have never asked them how many attempts it took them to pass the bar exam.

On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 11:23:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 9:56:32 PM UTC-7, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 7:29:44 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>> > Actual experience with the present mRNA vaccines are showing large numbers of deaths and long term injuries because they are changing the electrical charges between red corpuscles thus causing them to clump together. This can become either relatively minor causing PERMANENT spider veins or serious enough to cause heart failures especially in people with atherosclerosis.
>> >
>> Tommy, tommy, tommy. Please provide a reliable, verifiable source for your claim that the Covid vaccine is killing so many people. The CDC says Covid has killed about 670,565 USA citizens now.
>> https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home
>
>To you, this is proof of nothing little Goebbels child.
https://newsrescue.com/watch-bombshell-testimony-at-fda-vaccine-hearing-injections-killing-more-than-saving-driving-variants-re-all-cause-mortality/

Perhaps a more rational report might be interesting:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/17/fda-panel-begins-voting-on-pfizers-covid-booster-doses-rejecting-shots-for-general-public.html
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/fda-advisory-committee-votes-unanimously-favor-comirnatyr
https://www.healio.com/news/infectious-disease/20210917/fda-committee-votes-against-blanket-recommendation-for-covid19-vaccine-boosters
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fda-advisory-group-rejects-covid-boosters-limits-high-risk-groups-rcna2074
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:00:09 PM UTC-7, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 1:23:57 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 9:56:32 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 7:29:44 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Actual experience with the present mRNA vaccines are showing large numbers of deaths and long term injuries because they are changing the electrical charges between red corpuscles thus causing them to clump together. This can become either relatively minor causing PERMANENT spider veins or serious enough to cause heart failures especially in people with atherosclerosis.
> > > >
> > > Tommy, tommy, tommy. Please provide a reliable, verifiable source for your claim that the Covid vaccine is killing so many people. The CDC says Covid has killed about 670,565 USA citizens now.
> > > https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home
> > To you, this is proof of nothing little Goebbels child. https://newsrescue.com/watch-bombshell-testimony-at-fda-vaccine-hearing-injections-killing-more-than-saving-driving-variants-re-all-cause-mortality/
> Tommy, tommy, tommy. Here is another link, supporter for you to use in your lies.
>
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/one-lawyers-rise-shows-vaccine-154812801.html
> "Shawn Boburg and Jon Swaine
> Mon, September 20, 2021, 10:48 AM
> In one of dozens of recent media appearances, Ohio attorney Thomas Renz was claiming that coronavirus vaccines were more harmful than the virus itself. "The people that are dying are vaccinated," he said on a conservative online talk show in July.
>
> As Renz spoke, a message flashed across the screen with his website address. "Donate to his cause," it urged."
>
> "It is a highly visible role for Renz, 44, who passed the Ohio bar exam in November 2019 on his fifth attempt and has limited litigation experience, according to a Washington Post examination of his career."
>
> We will need Jay's help to tell us if it is normal for a lawyer to need five attempts to pass the bar exam. Jay being a lawyer he might have some knowledge and perspective on this. I ride bikes with several attorneys but have never asked them how many attempts it took them to pass the bar exam.

I don't know anyone who took the Oregon bar five times before passing. Some states have discretionary or absolute limits on the number of times you can take a bar exam -- Oregon and Ohio don't. https://barprephero.com/learn/how-many-times-take-bar-exam/

I passed the first time. My law school roommate took the test two or three times. He was no dummy but apparently not a good test-taker. It's a three day test including the ethics exam, so it can be difficult from a stamina standpoint. Being a CPA, you know about tests. My sister got her MBA from Columbia and was near the top of her class -- and flunked the CPA exam the first time she took it. I think it was the only test she flunked in her whole life.

I always enjoyed test panic or taking a test with low blood sugar. Your brain can't engage, and the words on the exam page bounce off the front of your eyeballs, and then you slip into that stomach-sinking, face-flushing terror state. [guess what my anxiety dreams look like]. The feared outcome never really materialized in law school or on the bar exam, but that same feeling returned in practice . . . when losing a case to a judge or jury. Always remember UTCR 3.150:

3.150 NO REACTION TO JURY VERDICT After the jury returns a verdict, all persons present in the courtroom must remain seated until the jury has left the room and must refrain from visibly or audibly reacting to the verdict in a manner which disrupts the dignity of the courtroom.

So no screaming.

-- Jay Beattie.

On 9/20/2021 5:00 PM, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 1:23:57 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 9:56:32 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 7:29:44 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Actual experience with the present mRNA vaccines are showing large numbers of deaths and long term injuries because they are changing the electrical charges between red corpuscles thus causing them to clump together. This can become either relatively minor causing PERMANENT spider veins or serious enough to cause heart failures especially in people with atherosclerosis.
>>>>
>>> Tommy, tommy, tommy. Please provide a reliable, verifiable source for your claim that the Covid vaccine is killing so many people. The CDC says Covid has killed about 670,565 USA citizens now.
>>> https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home
>> To you, this is proof of nothing little Goebbels child. https://newsrescue.com/watch-bombshell-testimony-at-fda-vaccine-hearing-injections-killing-more-than-saving-driving-variants-re-all-cause-mortality/
>
> Tommy, tommy, tommy. Here is another link, supporter for you to use in your lies.
>
> https://www.yahoo.com/news/one-lawyers-rise-shows-vaccine-154812801.html
> "Shawn Boburg and Jon Swaine
> Mon, September 20, 2021, 10:48 AM
> In one of dozens of recent media appearances, Ohio attorney Thomas Renz was claiming that coronavirus vaccines were more harmful than the virus itself. "The people that are dying are vaccinated," he said on a conservative online talk show in July.
>
> As Renz spoke, a message flashed across the screen with his website address. "Donate to his cause," it urged."
>
> "It is a highly visible role for Renz, 44, who passed the Ohio bar exam in November 2019 on his fifth attempt and has limited litigation experience, according to a Washington Post examination of his career."
>
> We will need Jay's help to tell us if it is normal for a lawyer to need five attempts to pass the bar exam. Jay being a lawyer he might have some knowledge and perspective on this. I ride bikes with several attorneys but have never asked them how many attempts it took them to pass the bar exam.
>

Rod Blagojevich passed the Illinois bar on the 3d try. Still
unemployable, his father in law Richard Mell got him work.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

russellseaton1@yahoo.com <ritzannaseaton@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 1:23:57 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 9:56:32 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Sunday, September 19, 2021 at 7:29:44 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Actual experience with the present mRNA vaccines are showing large
>>>> numbers of deaths and long term injuries because they are changing the
>>>> electrical charges between red corpuscles thus causing them to clump
>>>> together. This can become either relatively minor causing PERMANENT
>>>> spider veins or serious enough to cause heart failures especially in
>>>> people with atherosclerosis.
>>>>
>>> Tommy, tommy, tommy. Please provide a reliable, verifiable source for
>>> your claim that the Covid vaccine is killing so many people. The CDC
>>> says Covid has killed about 670,565 USA citizens now.
>>> https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home
>> To you, this is proof of nothing little Goebbels child.
>> https://newsrescue.com/watch-bombshell-testimony-at-fda-vaccine-hearing-injections-killing-more-than-saving-driving-variants-re-all-cause-mortality/
>
> Tommy, tommy, tommy. Are you really as dumb as you make yourself out to be on this forum?
>
> Your link above is from some website "newsrescue". On its website it has
> the following description:
> "Founded in 2007, NewsRescue is a New York-based news media platform
> dedicated to the rescue, recovery and elucidation of the truth in the news.
>
> In 2007 we discovered the prevalence of fake news, biases, misleading and
> totally false skews abound in many mainstream media and dedicated to
> creating this platform for the benefit of the truth-seeking masses who do
> not have time to factcheck the mainstream and scan for important news updates.
>
> Our editorial board consists of full time and part time citizen
> journalists who scour the world for important news stories that need rescuing.
>
> Tim Yousef, Editor-in-chief"
>
> You selected a link to some nut case right wing conservative whacko
> internet. Tommy, I know you have no education at all. And are very
> ignorant. But I will tell you when you quote people, or use references,
> the source is very important. You should always select factual,
> knowledgeable, believable sources. Not nut case places with a clear
> agenda. Such as if you are claiming financial prosperity you would cite
> stock market changes and unemployment and GDP growth. Facts that show
> prosperity over time or decline. You don't just say "Trump is a GOD and
> made everyone rich". No, you have to support that with believable
> relevant sources like I just listed. But you select a right wing nut
> case website to get your information from. Typical of you.
>
> And the sources/people cited in the nefarious article are very
> questionable. The first one is a Steve Kirsch. Here is the Wikipedia
> page on him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Kirsch Here is a
> quote from that page. "In May 2021, Kirsch posted an article online
> making an unfounded claim that COVID-19 vaccines affect fertility, while
> also underplaying the vaccines' ability to prevent illness and death.[11]
> The following month, Kirsch appeared in a YouTube video posted with Bret
> Weinstein and Robert W. Malone to discuss COVID-19 vaccines. In the
> video, Kirsch makes several false claims, including that spike proteins
> used in COVID-19 vaccines are "very dangerous".[12][13]" So you can see
> he is a bit of a quack in this. With an agenda of some kind.
>
> There is also a Dr. Jessica Rose cited in the article. I was unable to
> determine exactly who she is since a Google search turned up many people
> with that name and Dr. title. So I will just go on record as saying she
> probably fits into the nut case right wing something on their agenda
> category too. Like the Steve Kirsch fellow.
>

Kinda reminds me of an old joke.

There is a senior citizen driving on the highway. His wife calls him on his
cell phone and in a worried voice says, Herman, be careful! I just heard on
the radio that there is a madman driving the wrong way on Route 280! Herman
says, I know, but there isn't just one, there are hundreds!

On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 12:59:29 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>Obviously this is true because - the sky is blue and not black
>and the lower atmosphere is warm because conduction is much
>slower than radiation.

Nice change of topic. You went from bashing the Democrats, to giving
Jay advice on how to run his law practice, to spectrometry, to
atmospheric absorption and emission on various planets, to global
warming, and finally to "death threats". Wow, what a ride.

Anyway, the sky is blue because of Rayleigh scattering. Read all
about it here:
<http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/atmos/blusky.html>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayleigh_scattering>

Atmospheric temperature varies rather oddly with altitude:
<https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/docs/documents/604/us_atmosphere_temperature_vs_elevation.png>

[Only 10 minutes wasted on this. I'm busy tonight after a 7.5hr power
outage.]

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 5:39:26 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:00:09 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> > "It is a highly visible role for Renz, 44, who passed the Ohio bar exam in November 2019 on his fifth attempt and has limited litigation experience, according to a Washington Post examination of his career."
> >
> > We will need Jay's help to tell us if it is normal for a lawyer to need five attempts to pass the bar exam. Jay being a lawyer he might have some knowledge and perspective on this. I ride bikes with several attorneys but have never asked them how many attempts it took them to pass the bar exam.
> I don't know anyone who took the Oregon bar five times before passing. Some states have discretionary or absolute limits on the number of times you can take a bar exam -- Oregon and Ohio don't. https://barprephero.com/learn/how-many-times-take-bar-exam/
>
> I passed the first time. My law school roommate took the test two or three times. He was no dummy but apparently not a good test-taker. It's a three day test including the ethics exam, so it can be difficult from a stamina standpoint. Being a CPA, you know about tests. My sister got her MBA from Columbia and was near the top of her class -- and flunked the CPA exam the first time she took it. I think it was the only test she flunked in her whole life.
>

AHA!!!!!!!! There is an ethics exam on the lawyer test. That obviously explains why this person needed five tries to pass it. Anyone who appears on right wing media and claims the vaccine kills more than the virus, is obviously very lacking in ethics. I'm somewhat surprised he even passed it on his fifth attempt. If you have zero ethics can you pass an ethics test?

Its been 30 years since I took the CPA exam. I've forgotten almost everything now. Glad I don't have to take it again. I do not know what the pass percentage rate is. The CPA exam has four parts. And the first time you have to pass at least two parts for it to count. Then you can take the parts you failed six months later and keep on taking until you pass all parts and officially call yourself a CPA. CPA test is similar to law and medical I believe. You just have to get the minimum score to pass. Anything above the minimum is wasted studying.

On 9/20/2021 9:24 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 12:59:29 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Obviously this is true because - the sky is blue and not black
>> and the lower atmosphere is warm because conduction is much
>> slower than radiation.
>
> Nice change of topic. You went from bashing the Democrats, to giving
> Jay advice on how to run his law practice, to spectrometry, to
> atmospheric absorption and emission on various planets, to global
> warming, and finally to "death threats". Wow, what a ride.
>
> Anyway, the sky is blue because of Rayleigh scattering. Read all
> about it here:
> <http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/atmos/blusky.html>
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayleigh_scattering>
>
> Atmospheric temperature varies rather oddly with altitude:
> <https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/docs/documents/604/us_atmosphere_temperature_vs_elevation.png>
>
> [Only 10 minutes wasted on this. I'm busy tonight after a 7.5hr power
> outage.]
>
>

in re outages:
I received an email overnight from our telephone/internet
service at 2:57am:

"There is currently a [brand] Business service outage at the
following address:
219 MAIN ST
ARLINGTON, WI
Our technicians are working on the problem. We estimate that
your service will be restored by 05:00 AM."

AFAICT there was no outage and if there were I could not
have received the notice in a timely or useful manner.
What's the point?

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Am 21.09.2021 um 14:28 schrieb AMuzi:
> On 9/20/2021 9:24 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 12:59:29 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Obviously this is true because - the sky is blue and not black
>>> and the lower atmosphere is warm because conduction is much
>>> slower than radiation.
>>
>> Nice change of topic.  You went from bashing the Democrats, to giving
>> Jay advice on how to run his law practice, to spectrometry, to
>> atmospheric absorption and emission on various planets, to global
>> warming, and finally to "death threats".  Wow, what a ride.
>>
>> Anyway, the sky is blue because of Rayleigh scattering.  Read all
>> about it here:
>> <http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/atmos/blusky.html>
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rayleigh_scattering>
>>
>> Atmospheric temperature varies rather oddly with altitude:
>> <https://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/docs/documents/604/us_atmosphere_temperature_vs_elevation.png>
>>
>>
>> [Only 10 minutes wasted on this.  I'm busy tonight after a 7.5hr power
>> outage.]
>>
>>
>
> in re outages:
> I received an email overnight from our telephone/internet service at
> 2:57am:
>
> "There is currently a [brand] Business service outage at the following
> address:
> 219 MAIN ST
> ARLINGTON, WI
> Our technicians are working on the problem. We estimate that your
> service will be restored by 05:00 AM."
>
> AFAICT there was no outage and if there were I could not have received
> the notice in a timely or useful manner. What's the point?

Some people are able to read their email on the mobile phone; to those
people such a message is useful.

On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 1:49:06 AM UTC-7, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 5:39:26 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:
> > On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 3:00:09 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > > "It is a highly visible role for Renz, 44, who passed the Ohio bar exam in November 2019 on his fifth attempt and has limited litigation experience, according to a Washington Post examination of his career."
> > >
> > > We will need Jay's help to tell us if it is normal for a lawyer to need five attempts to pass the bar exam. Jay being a lawyer he might have some knowledge and perspective on this. I ride bikes with several attorneys but have never asked them how many attempts it took them to pass the bar exam..
> > I don't know anyone who took the Oregon bar five times before passing. Some states have discretionary or absolute limits on the number of times you can take a bar exam -- Oregon and Ohio don't. https://barprephero.com/learn/how-many-times-take-bar-exam/
> >
> > I passed the first time. My law school roommate took the test two or three times. He was no dummy but apparently not a good test-taker. It's a three day test including the ethics exam, so it can be difficult from a stamina standpoint. Being a CPA, you know about tests. My sister got her MBA from Columbia and was near the top of her class -- and flunked the CPA exam the first time she took it. I think it was the only test she flunked in her whole life.
> >
> AHA!!!!!!!! There is an ethics exam on the lawyer test. That obviously explains why this person needed five tries to pass it. Anyone who appears on right wing media and claims the vaccine kills more than the virus, is obviously very lacking in ethics. I'm somewhat surprised he even passed it on his fifth attempt. If you have zero ethics can you pass an ethics test?
>
> Its been 30 years since I took the CPA exam. I've forgotten almost everything now. Glad I don't have to take it again. I do not know what the pass percentage rate is. The CPA exam has four parts. And the first time you have to pass at least two parts for it to count. Then you can take the parts you failed six months later and keep on taking until you pass all parts and officially call yourself a CPA. CPA test is similar to law and medical I believe. You just have to get the minimum score to pass. Anything above the minimum is wasted studying.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/jm2euik7MlCV/

On Tue, 21 Sep 2021 07:28:52 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 9/20/2021 9:24 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> [Only 10 minutes wasted on this. I'm busy tonight after a 7.5hr power
>> outage.]

>in re outages:
>I received an email overnight from our telephone/internet
>service at 2:57am:
>
>"There is currently a [brand] Business service outage at the
>following address:
>219 MAIN ST
>ARLINGTON, WI
>Our technicians are working on the problem. We estimate that
>your service will be restored by 05:00 AM."
>
>AFAICT there was no outage and if there were I could not
>have received the notice in a timely or useful manner.
>What's the point?

That's both typical and normal. I subscribe to the power company
email and text messaging update system. For every outage, I typically
get about 5 such messages and a recorded voice call. None of these
messages ever contain useful or accurate information. The web site
isn't much better.
<https://pgealerts.alerts.pge.com/outages/map/>

I don't want to put everyone to sleep describing the local PG&E power
debacle in detail. In the last week, I've had daily outages varying
from a few minutes to 10 hrs overnight. PG&E increased the
sensitivity of the ground fault detectors so that even the slightest
disturbance to the lines is detected as a downed line or arc. The
idea is to shut off the power before it starts yet another forest
fire. To compensate, they've also shortened the recovery time on the
automatic recloser switches. That helps, but results in quite a few
power glitches. To make sure that the system is safe to have the
power restored, PG&E requires that ALL the lines be visually inspected
by airplane, helicopter, or someone driving around looking at power
lines instead of the road ahead of him. This cannot be done at night,
so any fault after dark results in an automatic 8 hr delay until the
power is restored.

PG&E keeps blaming squirrels for causing the ground faults. Sigh.

I've been doing generator and chain saw repairs for the last few
months on the side. I've been getting enough work that I'm
considering sidelining the comptah repair biz in favor of rebuilding
carburetors, which is the most common problem. A side effect is that
I haven't been able to spend much time reading RBT.

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