While checking on my Craigslist postings I discovered that 4 of my items had been "removed" for no reason whatsoever. There wasn't anything offensive in the postings and they had clear pictures of what was for sale. This is rather different than a large number of Craigslist postings.

I reverted to Craigslist not because it was free but because the rates charged by Ebay were preposterous.

There doesn't seem to be ANY way of contacting Craigslist to discover why this was. This pretty much shows what absolute garbage these sites are and how someone that would put up an Ebay-like site that doesn't charge excessive rates couldn't help but be successful.

"There doesn't seem to be ANY way of contacting Craigslist to discover why this was."

Tom, pardon me for the digression from your topic, but did you ever try to get any telephone or email support from Google when you can't get one of their sites to work properly? Good luck with that.
What kind of a viable business model provides for absolutely no customer support?

On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 10:02:44 -0700 (PDT), William Crowell
<retroguybilly@gmail.com> wrote:

>"There doesn't seem to be ANY way of contacting Craigslist to discover why this was."
>
>Tom, pardon me for the digression from your topic, but did you ever try to get any telephone or email support from Google when you can't get one of their sites to work properly? Good luck with that.
> What kind of a viable business model provides for absolutely no customer support?

That's easy. Sites that don't want to deal with clueless users. The
problem is that 90% of the support calls and effort serve 10% of their
users. So, the site owners are willing to tell 10% of their users
that they can hire someone (like me) to fix the users problem because
90% of the users are not having any similar problem, then they can
safe a fortune by not offering phone, email, chat, text, and
outsourced support.

This is nothing new. The last time Tom had a problem was an inability
to "access" (I hate that vague word) Amazon from computah. Of course,
he declared that Amazon must be offine. This is sorta the middle of
the thread:
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/6vYL7JsVilE/m/yZox1iONAgAJ>
The final solution appeared here:
<https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/6vYL7JsVilE/m/3dbMB90eAwAJ>
"OK, it turned out to be a very simple problem. A couple of updates
were added to the computer and screwed the system up unless it was
restarted. Restarting the computer fixed everything."

So, now Craigslist won't talk to Tom. Craigslist probably saw him
coming and went into hiding.

Hey Tom. While you're building up steam for the next round of
insults, I suggest that you:
1. Reboot your computer. It worked once and it might work again.
2. Check if anyone else is having problems with Craigslist at:
<https://downdetector.com/status/craigslist/>
If there is no deluge of user complains, it's quite likely that the
problem is at your location, not at Craigslist.
3. Check the Craigslist system status at:
<https://www.craigslist.org/about/help/system-status>
Looks like they'll be down tonight between 11:00PM and 11:30PM.
There's a good chance this is to fix a database index corruption
problem, which will require some re-indexing. If you're lucky, your
missing listings should be there in the morning.
4. Stop blaming everyone, every company, and everything in sight for
every problems. You might actually be right this time, but that's no
reason to waste everyone's time with your stupid accusations and
conspiracy theories. Act like the professional you claim to be.

[Time wasted 25 minutes]

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 9/30/2021 8:24 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

<snip>

> That's easy. Sites that don't want to deal with clueless users. The
> problem is that 90% of the support calls and effort serve 10% of their
> users. So, the site owners are willing to tell 10% of their users
> that they can hire someone (like me) to fix the users problem because
> 90% of the users are not having any similar problem, then they can
> safe a fortune by not offering phone, email, chat, text, and
> outsourced support.

I once heard someone from Dell state that if a user calls tech support
even once then that the margin on the sale of the computer they bought
goes negative. They probably regret selling computers to those 10% of
users that lack any technical skills.

You helped Tom for free, but a lot of non-technical people don't have
free support available. I remember my mother and step-father calling my
brother for support until 10 p.m. Eastern Time, then west coast tech
support took over and they called me.

That said, I've had reasonable success in reporting actual web site
problems to the site owner by including a lot of detail, including
screen shots. Also, I often find sites that don't display properly in
one browser but that work fine in other browsers. I've reported errors
in Google Maps and received responses thanking me. In one case they
acknowledged the problem, but said that they had no way to fix it.

On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 7:05:40 AM UTC-7, sms wrote:
> On 9/30/2021 8:24 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > That's easy. Sites that don't want to deal with clueless users. The
> > problem is that 90% of the support calls and effort serve 10% of their
> > users. So, the site owners are willing to tell 10% of their users
> > that they can hire someone (like me) to fix the users problem because
> > 90% of the users are not having any similar problem, then they can
> > safe a fortune by not offering phone, email, chat, text, and
> > outsourced support.
> I once heard someone from Dell state that if a user calls tech support
> even once then that the margin on the sale of the computer they bought
> goes negative. They probably regret selling computers to those 10% of
> users that lack any technical skills.
>
> You helped Tom for free, but a lot of non-technical people don't have
> free support available. I remember my mother and step-father calling my
> brother for support until 10 p.m. Eastern Time, then west coast tech
> support took over and they called me.

Gawd, this is a huge area for scammers. Old folks and not-so-old folks calling what look like customer service lines only to be told that they have some bug or malware or something that needs to be fixed, and then getting sold some multi-hundred dollar bogus fix, etc., etc. I did pro bono work for old folks and half of it was chasing down scammers -- including somewhat reputable, old-school businesses engaged in cramming (phone company). The vigilance required these days is beyond the capacity of many elderly consumers.

-- Jay Beattie.

On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 8:24:25 PM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 10:02:44 -0700 (PDT), William Crowell
> <retrog...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >"There doesn't seem to be ANY way of contacting Craigslist to discover why this was."
> >
> >Tom, pardon me for the digression from your topic, but did you ever try to get any telephone or email support from Google when you can't get one of their sites to work properly? Good luck with that.
> > What kind of a viable business model provides for absolutely no customer support?
> That's easy. Sites that don't want to deal with clueless users. The
> problem is that 90% of the support calls and effort serve 10% of their
> users. So, the site owners are willing to tell 10% of their users
> that they can hire someone (like me) to fix the users problem because
> 90% of the users are not having any similar problem, then they can
> safe a fortune by not offering phone, email, chat, text, and
> outsourced support.
>
> This is nothing new. The last time Tom had a problem was an inability
> to "access" (I hate that vague word) Amazon from computah. Of course,
> he declared that Amazon must be offine. This is sorta the middle of
> the thread:
> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/6vYL7JsVilE/m/yZox1iONAgAJ>
> The final solution appeared here:
> <https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/6vYL7JsVilE/m/3dbMB90eAwAJ>
> "OK, it turned out to be a very simple problem. A couple of updates
> were added to the computer and screwed the system up unless it was
> restarted. Restarting the computer fixed everything."
>
> So, now Craigslist won't talk to Tom. Craigslist probably saw him
> coming and went into hiding.
>
> Hey Tom. While you're building up steam for the next round of
> insults, I suggest that you:
> 1. Reboot your computer. It worked once and it might work again.
> 2. Check if anyone else is having problems with Craigslist at:
> <https://downdetector.com/status/craigslist/>
> If there is no deluge of user complains, it's quite likely that the
> problem is at your location, not at Craigslist.
> 3. Check the Craigslist system status at:
> <https://www.craigslist.org/about/help/system-status>
> Looks like they'll be down tonight between 11:00PM and 11:30PM.
> There's a good chance this is to fix a database index corruption
> problem, which will require some re-indexing. If you're lucky, your
> missing listings should be there in the morning.
> 4. Stop blaming everyone, every company, and everything in sight for
> every problems. You might actually be right this time, but that's no
> reason to waste everyone's time with your stupid accusations and
> conspiracy theories. Act like the professional you claim to be.
>
> [Time wasted 25 minutes]

Jeff, we realize that you don't understand anything at all. Tell us you stupid ass - WHY did they delete an add that had been running for 2 weeks? I can tell you why, because some asshole like you complained about the product for no other reason than to eliminate my add.

On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 7:32:16 AM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
> On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 7:05:40 AM UTC-7, sms wrote:
> > On 9/30/2021 8:24 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> > > That's easy. Sites that don't want to deal with clueless users. The
> > > problem is that 90% of the support calls and effort serve 10% of their
> > > users. So, the site owners are willing to tell 10% of their users
> > > that they can hire someone (like me) to fix the users problem because
> > > 90% of the users are not having any similar problem, then they can
> > > safe a fortune by not offering phone, email, chat, text, and
> > > outsourced support.
> > I once heard someone from Dell state that if a user calls tech support
> > even once then that the margin on the sale of the computer they bought
> > goes negative. They probably regret selling computers to those 10% of
> > users that lack any technical skills.
> >
> > You helped Tom for free, but a lot of non-technical people don't have
> > free support available. I remember my mother and step-father calling my
> > brother for support until 10 p.m. Eastern Time, then west coast tech
> > support took over and they called me.
> Gawd, this is a huge area for scammers. Old folks and not-so-old folks calling what look like customer service lines only to be told that they have some bug or malware or something that needs to be fixed, and then getting sold some multi-hundred dollar bogus fix, etc., etc. I did pro bono work for old folks and half of it was chasing down scammers -- including somewhat reputable, old-school businesses engaged in cramming (phone company). The vigilance required these days is beyond the capacity of many elderly consumers.

What has this to do with an ad posted on Craigslist?

On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 10:02:45 AM UTC-7, William Crowell wrote:
> "There doesn't seem to be ANY way of contacting Craigslist to discover why this was."
> Tom, pardon me for the digression from your topic, but did you ever try to get any telephone or email support from Google when you can't get one of their sites to work properly? Good luck with that.
> What kind of a viable business model provides for absolutely no customer support?
While I agree with you, doesn't this blend in with my comments about people like Russell, Jeff, Frank or Jay citing opinions on Google searches as fact beyond controversy? I was part of the group that built the computer that was the basis of Arcnet that became the Internet. IF you published sheer lies via opinion on the Arcnet you would be hung out to dry. Turning this thing into a public convenience allowed people like our small group of morons to published anything they wanted and call if fact. I want you to imagine people like Russell pretending to know anything scientific. As a bookkeeper you might expect him to know rudimentary mathematics but he has shown that either he doesn't or that he is willing to lie about it in order to claim that I am wrong. Now consider this multiplied by 100 million on the Internet and exactly how could you ever expect to have the slightest references to anything that even might be true?

On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 08:26:08 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 10:02:45 AM UTC-7, William Crowell wrote:
>> "There doesn't seem to be ANY way of contacting Craigslist to discover why this was."
>> Tom, pardon me for the digression from your topic, but did you ever try to get any telephone or email support from Google when you can't get one of their sites to work properly? Good luck with that.
>> What kind of a viable business model provides for absolutely no customer support?

>I was part of the group that built the computer that was the basis of Arcnet that became the Internet.

Ummm, that should be ARPANET:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET>
and not Arcnet, which is a networking protocol:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARCNET>
There was an Air Force ARCNet:
<https://www.afrc.af.mil/About-Us/Innovation/Community/ARCNet/>
but that was well after the founding of the internet and had more to
do with USAF scheduling than todays internet.

Like your inability to correctly spell two prior alleged employers
(Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and Lawrence Livermore National
Laboratory), I find it rather odd that someone who had worked for
ARPANET would be unable to produce the correct name. You don't seem
to have much difficulty spelling obscure bicycle vendor and component
names, yet former employers seem to be a problem. Perhaps that's
because you were never an employee at those places?

>IF you published sheer lies via opinion on the Arcnet you would be hung out to dry.

Please let me know where and when you expect to be hung out to dry? I
want to watch.

>Now consider this multiplied by 100 million on the Internet and exactly how could you ever expect to have the slightest references to anything that even might be true?

Ummm... More than 4 billion internet users world wide:
<https://www.statista.com/statistics/617136/digital-population-worldwide/>
Please update your fabricated numbers to resemble reality.

Do you really think that anyone in R.B.T. believes you without
providing substantiation? Name dropping famous individuals,
companies, and institutions will only go so far. When challenged, you
will need to backup your statements or your credibility will rapidly
deteriorate. Think of R.B.T. as a peer review.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 10:41:35 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 08:26:08 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 10:02:45 AM UTC-7, William Crowell wrote:
> >> "There doesn't seem to be ANY way of contacting Craigslist to discover why this was."
> >> Tom, pardon me for the digression from your topic, but did you ever try to get any telephone or email support from Google when you can't get one of their sites to work properly? Good luck with that.
> >> What kind of a viable business model provides for absolutely no customer support?
> >I was part of the group that built the computer that was the basis of Arcnet that became the Internet.
> Ummm, that should be ARPANET:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET>
> and not Arcnet, which is a networking protocol:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARCNET>
> There was an Air Force ARCNet:
> <https://www.afrc.af.mil/About-Us/Innovation/Community/ARCNet/>
> but that was well after the founding of the internet and had more to
> do with USAF scheduling than todays internet.
>
> Like your inability to correctly spell two prior alleged employers
> (Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and Lawrence Livermore National
> Laboratory), I find it rather odd that someone who had worked for
> ARPANET would be unable to produce the correct name. You don't seem
> to have much difficulty spelling obscure bicycle vendor and component
> names, yet former employers seem to be a problem. Perhaps that's
> because you were never an employee at those places?
> >IF you published sheer lies via opinion on the Arcnet you would be hung out to dry.
> Please let me know where and when you expect to be hung out to dry? I
> want to watch.
> >Now consider this multiplied by 100 million on the Internet and exactly how could you ever expect to have the slightest references to anything that even might be true?
> Ummm... More than 4 billion internet users world wide:
> <https://www.statista.com/statistics/617136/digital-population-worldwide/>
> Please update your fabricated numbers to resemble reality.
>
> Do you really think that anyone in R.B.T. believes you without
> providing substantiation? Name dropping famous individuals,
> companies, and institutions will only go so far. When challenged, you
> will need to backup your statements or your credibility will rapidly
> deteriorate. Think of R.B.T. as a peer review.

So sue me dumby. I was still a member of the team that made the BCC Model 1 time sharing computer that would handle 100 simultaneous users. The largest time sharing computer at that time was an IBM that could handle 3 users.. But as a snake you wouldn't know anything about anything and every day you show it. I now have 3800 miles on the bike and 72,000 feet of climbing. What do you have and if you don't ride a bike why are you on a technical group when you couldn't even lube your own chain?

Tell me you snake - why are you on this group? As a cripple you can't ride so what do you suppose you're going to learn here? How to dix a flat? Maybe you are going to believe that crap about how many people have been vaccinated because your mind wanders since you got your vaccinations and that destroys your immune system and makes you the perfect target for a real disease?

On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 12:03:29 PM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 10:41:35 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 08:26:08 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 10:02:45 AM UTC-7, William Crowell wrote:
> > >> "There doesn't seem to be ANY way of contacting Craigslist to discover why this was."
> > >> Tom, pardon me for the digression from your topic, but did you ever try to get any telephone or email support from Google when you can't get one of their sites to work properly? Good luck with that.
> > >> What kind of a viable business model provides for absolutely no customer support?
> > >I was part of the group that built the computer that was the basis of Arcnet that became the Internet.
> > Ummm, that should be ARPANET:
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET>
> > and not Arcnet, which is a networking protocol:
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARCNET>
> > There was an Air Force ARCNet:
> > <https://www.afrc.af.mil/About-Us/Innovation/Community/ARCNet/>
> > but that was well after the founding of the internet and had more to
> > do with USAF scheduling than todays internet.
> >
> > Like your inability to correctly spell two prior alleged employers
> > (Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and Lawrence Livermore National
> > Laboratory), I find it rather odd that someone who had worked for
> > ARPANET would be unable to produce the correct name. You don't seem
> > to have much difficulty spelling obscure bicycle vendor and component
> > names, yet former employers seem to be a problem. Perhaps that's
> > because you were never an employee at those places?
> > >IF you published sheer lies via opinion on the Arcnet you would be hung out to dry.
> > Please let me know where and when you expect to be hung out to dry? I
> > want to watch.
> > >Now consider this multiplied by 100 million on the Internet and exactly how could you ever expect to have the slightest references to anything that even might be true?
> > Ummm... More than 4 billion internet users world wide:
> > <https://www.statista.com/statistics/617136/digital-population-worldwide/>
> > Please update your fabricated numbers to resemble reality.
> >
> > Do you really think that anyone in R.B.T. believes you without
> > providing substantiation? Name dropping famous individuals,
> > companies, and institutions will only go so far. When challenged, you
> > will need to backup your statements or your credibility will rapidly
> > deteriorate. Think of R.B.T. as a peer review.
> So sue me dumby. I was still a member of the team that made the BCC Model 1 time sharing computer that would handle 100 simultaneous users. The largest time sharing computer at that time was an IBM that could handle 3 users.. But as a snake you wouldn't know anything about anything and every day you show it. I now have 3800 miles on the bike and 72,000 feet of climbing. What do you have and if you don't ride a bike why are you on a technical group when you couldn't even lube your own chain?

Berkeley Computer Corporation went bankrupt in >two years. BUT OMG, I found a reference to you: http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/bcc/originals/Admin/

Go to the file: BCC_A-11.pdf 2001-12-05 00:00 2.5M

"Kunich" appears on page 27 in "engineering support" whatever that was. Holy smokes, I think this is the first evidence of your professional existence outside your own Linked-In page. Did you ever get to drive the company Mercury station wagon?

-- Jay Beattie.

On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 12:03:27 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>I was still a member of the team that made the BCC Model 1 time sharing computer that would handle 100 simultaneous users. The largest time sharing computer at that time was an IBM that could handle 3 users.

Ummmm.... BCC was incorporated on Mar 9, 1969 and closed on Apr 17,
1972. Presumably, you worked for BCC during this time period. The
1972 publication of the Auerbach Guide to Timesharing lists 125 time
share services and systems that were in operation by 1972.
Unfortunately, the publication does not list the number of users. I
assume most had more then 3 users/terminals/ports/modems.
<http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/auerbach/GuideToTimesharing_Jan73.pdf>

>I now have 3800 miles on the bike and 72,000 feet of climbing. What do you have and if you don't ride a bike why are you on a technical group when you couldn't even lube your own chain?

I see. You expect me to demonstrate my bicycle riding and chain
lubrication abilities in order to validate my competence in
demonstrating that your are full of excrement. Sorry, but I fail to
see a connection between miles ridden, feet climbed and chains lubed
with your inability to survive a fairly simple fact checking.

>Tell me you snake - why are you on this group?

I'm your personal fact checker and peer reviewer. You're welcome.

>As a cripple you can't ride so what do you suppose you're going to learn here?

I've learned quite a bit about bicycles. Primarily, I'm interested in
bicycle lighting and electrification. However, that was all before
you returned to R.B.T. I probably should do something more useful,
but I occasionally need to unload my frustrations on a willing victim.
You seem to be enjoying the attention, so you were the obvious
candidate.

>How to dix a flat?

What is a "dix"?

>Maybe you are going to believe that crap about how many people have been vaccinated because your mind wanders since you got your vaccinations and that destroys your immune system and makes you the perfect target for a real disease?

Yet another change of topic. I just realized something about you that
I had previously missed. In any discussion, when someone points out
that you are misled, misinformed, lying, or fabricating numbers, you
never really respond to the topic under discussion. Is I recall, my
first disagreement with you was when you declared that the average
size of a farm in the US was 40 acres, and several people demonstrated
that this was not the case. You never really replied and simply
changed the topic. I should have caught it then. I must be getting
old. Lately, it seems that you're wrong about almost any topic. So,
instead of changing the topic, you revert to something you are
familiar with such as Former President Trump, Covid-19, vaccines, CDC,
President Biden, various conspiracies, and your stable of bicycles.
However, these are getting old and you are probably in need of new
material. Therefore, I suggest you look at the news for what is
happening in China with electrical power, power shortages, Tofu Dreg
infrastructure (collapsing buildings due to inferior materials and
construction), exit of many large international businesses, high
taxes, and various shortages. I would be interested in seeing how you
might distort those problems.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 10/4/2021 3:46 PM, jbeattie wrote:
> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 12:03:29 PM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 10:41:35 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 08:26:08 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 10:02:45 AM UTC-7, William Crowell wrote:
>>>>> "There doesn't seem to be ANY way of contacting Craigslist to discover why this was."
>>>>> Tom, pardon me for the digression from your topic, but did you ever try to get any telephone or email support from Google when you can't get one of their sites to work properly? Good luck with that.
>>>>> What kind of a viable business model provides for absolutely no customer support?
>>>> I was part of the group that built the computer that was the basis of Arcnet that became the Internet.
>>> Ummm, that should be ARPANET:
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET>
>>> and not Arcnet, which is a networking protocol:
>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARCNET>
>>> There was an Air Force ARCNet:
>>> <https://www.afrc.af.mil/About-Us/Innovation/Community/ARCNet/>
>>> but that was well after the founding of the internet and had more to
>>> do with USAF scheduling than todays internet.
>>>
>>> Like your inability to correctly spell two prior alleged employers
>>> (Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and Lawrence Livermore National
>>> Laboratory), I find it rather odd that someone who had worked for
>>> ARPANET would be unable to produce the correct name. You don't seem
>>> to have much difficulty spelling obscure bicycle vendor and component
>>> names, yet former employers seem to be a problem. Perhaps that's
>>> because you were never an employee at those places?
>>>> IF you published sheer lies via opinion on the Arcnet you would be hung out to dry.
>>> Please let me know where and when you expect to be hung out to dry? I
>>> want to watch.
>>>> Now consider this multiplied by 100 million on the Internet and exactly how could you ever expect to have the slightest references to anything that even might be true?
>>> Ummm... More than 4 billion internet users world wide:
>>> <https://www.statista.com/statistics/617136/digital-population-worldwide/>
>>> Please update your fabricated numbers to resemble reality.
>>>
>>> Do you really think that anyone in R.B.T. believes you without
>>> providing substantiation? Name dropping famous individuals,
>>> companies, and institutions will only go so far. When challenged, you
>>> will need to backup your statements or your credibility will rapidly
>>> deteriorate. Think of R.B.T. as a peer review.
>> So sue me dumby. I was still a member of the team that made the BCC Model 1 time sharing computer that would handle 100 simultaneous users. The largest time sharing computer at that time was an IBM that could handle 3 users. But as a snake you wouldn't know anything about anything and every day you show it. I now have 3800 miles on the bike and 72,000 feet of climbing. What do you have and if you don't ride a bike why are you on a technical group when you couldn't even lube your own chain?
>
> Berkeley Computer Corporation went bankrupt in >two years. BUT OMG, I found a reference to you: http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/bcc/originals/Admin/
>
> Go to the file: BCC_A-11.pdf 2001-12-05 00:00 2.5M
>
> "Kunich" appears on page 27 in "engineering support" whatever that was. Holy smokes, I think this is the first evidence of your professional existence outside your own Linked-In page. Did you ever get to drive the company Mercury station wagon?

Hmm. Mr. Kunich was one of 19 in that role. I wonder if all the others
are now claiming to be geniuses, like Tom? And how strange that our
local rock star didn't even qualify for "engineering" or "programming."

When my students got jobs in "engineering support" they were doing
things like drafting, typing data into forms or spreadsheets, acting as
runners between different offices, etc. Those would have been part time
jobs while they were still students, before they got their degrees.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 10:26:10 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 10:02:45 AM UTC-7, William Crowell wrote:
> > "There doesn't seem to be ANY way of contacting Craigslist to discover why this was."
> > Tom, pardon me for the digression from your topic, but did you ever try to get any telephone or email support from Google when you can't get one of their sites to work properly? Good luck with that.
> > What kind of a viable business model provides for absolutely no customer support?
> While I agree with you, doesn't this blend in with my comments about people like Russell, Jeff, Frank or Jay citing opinions on Google searches as fact beyond controversy? I was part of the group that built the computer that was the basis of Arcnet that became the Internet. IF you published sheer lies via opinion on the Arcnet you would be hung out to dry. Turning this thing into a public convenience allowed people like our small group of morons to published anything they wanted and call if fact. I want you to imagine people like Russell pretending to know anything scientific. As a bookkeeper you might expect him to know rudimentary mathematics but he has shown that either he doesn't or that he is willing to lie about it in order to claim that I am wrong. Now consider this multiplied by 100 million on the Internet and exactly how could you ever expect to have the slightest references to anything that even might be true?

But Tommy boy, I have used website links such as Yahoo Finance, Vanguard, Wall Street Journal, Bloomberg, IRS, Treasury Department and many others to show the facts of GDP, stock market returns, election results, and other things to prove my FACTS. Yet you continue to believe facts that disprove your lies are not facts. Odd.

On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 12:41:35 PM UTC-5, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 08:26:08 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 10:02:45 AM UTC-7, William Crowell wrote:
> >> "There doesn't seem to be ANY way of contacting Craigslist to discover why this was."
> >> Tom, pardon me for the digression from your topic, but did you ever try to get any telephone or email support from Google when you can't get one of their sites to work properly? Good luck with that.
> >> What kind of a viable business model provides for absolutely no customer support?
> >I was part of the group that built the computer that was the basis of Arcnet that became the Internet.
> Ummm, that should be ARPANET:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET>
> and not Arcnet, which is a networking protocol:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARCNET>
> There was an Air Force ARCNet:
> <https://www.afrc.af.mil/About-Us/Innovation/Community/ARCNet/>
> but that was well after the founding of the internet and had more to
> do with USAF scheduling than todays internet.
>
> Like your inability to correctly spell two prior alleged employers
> (Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and Lawrence Livermore National
> Laboratory), I find it rather odd that someone who had worked for
> ARPANET would be unable to produce the correct name. You don't seem
> to have much difficulty spelling obscure bicycle vendor and component
> names, yet former employers seem to be a problem. Perhaps that's
> because you were never an employee at those places?

Well, in defense of Tommy boy (HaHa), in two prior posts he did misspell "ad" with "add" in one of them. I'm guessing this has a whole lot to do with his lack of any education at all. Ad and Add are not too difficult to spell. And have no similarity in meaning.

> >IF you published sheer lies via opinion on the Arcnet you would be hung out to dry.
> Please let me know where and when you expect to be hung out to dry? I
> want to watch.
> >Now consider this multiplied by 100 million on the Internet and exactly how could you ever expect to have the slightest references to anything that even might be true?
> Ummm... More than 4 billion internet users world wide:
> <https://www.statista.com/statistics/617136/digital-population-worldwide/>
> Please update your fabricated numbers to resemble reality.
>
> Do you really think that anyone in R.B.T. believes you without
> providing substantiation? Name dropping famous individuals,
> companies, and institutions will only go so far. When challenged, you
> will need to backup your statements or your credibility will rapidly
> deteriorate. Think of R.B.T. as a peer review.
> --
> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 2:03:29 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> I now have 3800 miles on the bike and 72,000 feet of climbing.
>

Good job Tommy. I will admit under duress that you have bested me in cycling mileage this year. And most likely last year too. My mileage has been way down the past couple years for a few reasons.

On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 6:42:00 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 10/4/2021 3:46 PM, jbeattie wrote:
> > On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 12:03:29 PM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 10:41:35 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 08:26:08 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 10:02:45 AM UTC-7, William Crowell wrote:
> >>>>> "There doesn't seem to be ANY way of contacting Craigslist to discover why this was."
> >>>>> Tom, pardon me for the digression from your topic, but did you ever try to get any telephone or email support from Google when you can't get one of their sites to work properly? Good luck with that.
> >>>>> What kind of a viable business model provides for absolutely no customer support?
> >>>> I was part of the group that built the computer that was the basis of Arcnet that became the Internet.
> >>> Ummm, that should be ARPANET:
> >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET>
> >>> and not Arcnet, which is a networking protocol:
> >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARCNET>
> >>> There was an Air Force ARCNet:
> >>> <https://www.afrc.af.mil/About-Us/Innovation/Community/ARCNet/>
> >>> but that was well after the founding of the internet and had more to
> >>> do with USAF scheduling than todays internet.
> >>>
> >>> Like your inability to correctly spell two prior alleged employers
> >>> (Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and Lawrence Livermore National
> >>> Laboratory), I find it rather odd that someone who had worked for
> >>> ARPANET would be unable to produce the correct name. You don't seem
> >>> to have much difficulty spelling obscure bicycle vendor and component
> >>> names, yet former employers seem to be a problem. Perhaps that's
> >>> because you were never an employee at those places?
> >>>> IF you published sheer lies via opinion on the Arcnet you would be hung out to dry.
> >>> Please let me know where and when you expect to be hung out to dry? I
> >>> want to watch.
> >>>> Now consider this multiplied by 100 million on the Internet and exactly how could you ever expect to have the slightest references to anything that even might be true?
> >>> Ummm... More than 4 billion internet users world wide:
> >>> <https://www.statista.com/statistics/617136/digital-population-worldwide/>
> >>> Please update your fabricated numbers to resemble reality.
> >>>
> >>> Do you really think that anyone in R.B.T. believes you without
> >>> providing substantiation? Name dropping famous individuals,
> >>> companies, and institutions will only go so far. When challenged, you
> >>> will need to backup your statements or your credibility will rapidly
> >>> deteriorate. Think of R.B.T. as a peer review.
> >> So sue me dumby. I was still a member of the team that made the BCC Model 1 time sharing computer that would handle 100 simultaneous users. The largest time sharing computer at that time was an IBM that could handle 3 users. But as a snake you wouldn't know anything about anything and every day you show it. I now have 3800 miles on the bike and 72,000 feet of climbing.. What do you have and if you don't ride a bike why are you on a technical group when you couldn't even lube your own chain?
> >
> > Berkeley Computer Corporation went bankrupt in >two years. BUT OMG, I found a reference to you: http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/bcc/originals/Admin/
> >
> > Go to the file: BCC_A-11.pdf 2001-12-05 00:00 2.5M
> >
> > "Kunich" appears on page 27 in "engineering support" whatever that was. Holy smokes, I think this is the first evidence of your professional existence outside your own Linked-In page. Did you ever get to drive the company Mercury station wagon?
> Hmm. Mr. Kunich was one of 19 in that role. I wonder if all the others
> are now claiming to be geniuses, like Tom? And how strange that our
> local rock star didn't even qualify for "engineering" or "programming."
>
> When my students got jobs in "engineering support" they were doing
> things like drafting, typing data into forms or spreadsheets, acting as
> runners between different offices, etc. Those would have been part time
> jobs while they were still students, before they got their degrees.

Hey, its still fun to play in the majors, even if you're just a bat-boy. I took the depositions of various guys dying of asbestos related diseases who worked on the Hanford B Reactor during WII. It was fascinating hearing about it, but they didn't know what they were building. A half-dozen guys out of thousands knew what was going on.
-- Jay Beattie.

On 10/4/2021 11:56 PM, jbeattie wrote:
> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 6:42:00 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 10/4/2021 3:46 PM, jbeattie wrote:
>>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 12:03:29 PM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 10:41:35 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 08:26:08 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 10:02:45 AM UTC-7, William Crowell wrote:
>>>>>>> "There doesn't seem to be ANY way of contacting Craigslist to discover why this was."
>>>>>>> Tom, pardon me for the digression from your topic, but did you ever try to get any telephone or email support from Google when you can't get one of their sites to work properly? Good luck with that.
>>>>>>> What kind of a viable business model provides for absolutely no customer support?
>>>>>> I was part of the group that built the computer that was the basis of Arcnet that became the Internet.
>>>>> Ummm, that should be ARPANET:
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET>
>>>>> and not Arcnet, which is a networking protocol:
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARCNET>
>>>>> There was an Air Force ARCNet:
>>>>> <https://www.afrc.af.mil/About-Us/Innovation/Community/ARCNet/>
>>>>> but that was well after the founding of the internet and had more to
>>>>> do with USAF scheduling than todays internet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Like your inability to correctly spell two prior alleged employers
>>>>> (Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and Lawrence Livermore National
>>>>> Laboratory), I find it rather odd that someone who had worked for
>>>>> ARPANET would be unable to produce the correct name. You don't seem
>>>>> to have much difficulty spelling obscure bicycle vendor and component
>>>>> names, yet former employers seem to be a problem. Perhaps that's
>>>>> because you were never an employee at those places?
>>>>>> IF you published sheer lies via opinion on the Arcnet you would be hung out to dry.
>>>>> Please let me know where and when you expect to be hung out to dry? I
>>>>> want to watch.
>>>>>> Now consider this multiplied by 100 million on the Internet and exactly how could you ever expect to have the slightest references to anything that even might be true?
>>>>> Ummm... More than 4 billion internet users world wide:
>>>>> <https://www.statista.com/statistics/617136/digital-population-worldwide/>
>>>>> Please update your fabricated numbers to resemble reality.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you really think that anyone in R.B.T. believes you without
>>>>> providing substantiation? Name dropping famous individuals,
>>>>> companies, and institutions will only go so far. When challenged, you
>>>>> will need to backup your statements or your credibility will rapidly
>>>>> deteriorate. Think of R.B.T. as a peer review.
>>>> So sue me dumby. I was still a member of the team that made the BCC Model 1 time sharing computer that would handle 100 simultaneous users. The largest time sharing computer at that time was an IBM that could handle 3 users. But as a snake you wouldn't know anything about anything and every day you show it. I now have 3800 miles on the bike and 72,000 feet of climbing. What do you have and if you don't ride a bike why are you on a technical group when you couldn't even lube your own chain?
>>>
>>> Berkeley Computer Corporation went bankrupt in >two years. BUT OMG, I found a reference to you: http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/bcc/originals/Admin/
>>>
>>> Go to the file: BCC_A-11.pdf 2001-12-05 00:00 2.5M
>>>
>>> "Kunich" appears on page 27 in "engineering support" whatever that was. Holy smokes, I think this is the first evidence of your professional existence outside your own Linked-In page. Did you ever get to drive the company Mercury station wagon?
>> Hmm. Mr. Kunich was one of 19 in that role. I wonder if all the others
>> are now claiming to be geniuses, like Tom? And how strange that our
>> local rock star didn't even qualify for "engineering" or "programming."
>>
>> When my students got jobs in "engineering support" they were doing
>> things like drafting, typing data into forms or spreadsheets, acting as
>> runners between different offices, etc. Those would have been part time
>> jobs while they were still students, before they got their degrees.
>
> Hey, its still fun to play in the majors, even if you're just a bat-boy. I took the depositions of various guys dying of asbestos related diseases who worked on the Hanford B Reactor during WII. It was fascinating hearing about it, but they didn't know what they were building. A half-dozen guys out of thousands knew what was going on.

I'm sure it's fun to be even a bat boy in baseball's major leagues, and
I'm sure a bat boy would learn a lot about the workings of a baseball team.

Similarly, it was very common for my students to get part-time jobs
doing things like "engineering support" while they were still in school.
That gave them a chance to see company engineering departments and
factory production in action, and demonstrate to them that the things we
did in class and in labs really mattered.

That system also gave the companies a chance to learn the students'
abilities, characters, work ethics, etc. It was _very_ common for those
students to get full time jobs from those companies upon graduation.

Sadly, Tom seemed to be on a different path.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 12:46:27 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 12:03:29 PM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 10:41:35 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 08:26:08 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 10:02:45 AM UTC-7, William Crowell wrote:
> > > >> "There doesn't seem to be ANY way of contacting Craigslist to discover why this was."
> > > >> Tom, pardon me for the digression from your topic, but did you ever try to get any telephone or email support from Google when you can't get one of their sites to work properly? Good luck with that.
> > > >> What kind of a viable business model provides for absolutely no customer support?
> > > >I was part of the group that built the computer that was the basis of Arcnet that became the Internet.
> > > Ummm, that should be ARPANET:
> > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET>
> > > and not Arcnet, which is a networking protocol:
> > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARCNET>
> > > There was an Air Force ARCNet:
> > > <https://www.afrc.af.mil/About-Us/Innovation/Community/ARCNet/>
> > > but that was well after the founding of the internet and had more to
> > > do with USAF scheduling than todays internet.
> > >
> > > Like your inability to correctly spell two prior alleged employers
> > > (Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and Lawrence Livermore National
> > > Laboratory), I find it rather odd that someone who had worked for
> > > ARPANET would be unable to produce the correct name. You don't seem
> > > to have much difficulty spelling obscure bicycle vendor and component
> > > names, yet former employers seem to be a problem. Perhaps that's
> > > because you were never an employee at those places?
> > > >IF you published sheer lies via opinion on the Arcnet you would be hung out to dry.
> > > Please let me know where and when you expect to be hung out to dry? I
> > > want to watch.
> > > >Now consider this multiplied by 100 million on the Internet and exactly how could you ever expect to have the slightest references to anything that even might be true?
> > > Ummm... More than 4 billion internet users world wide:
> > > <https://www.statista.com/statistics/617136/digital-population-worldwide/>
> > > Please update your fabricated numbers to resemble reality.
> > >
> > > Do you really think that anyone in R.B.T. believes you without
> > > providing substantiation? Name dropping famous individuals,
> > > companies, and institutions will only go so far. When challenged, you
> > > will need to backup your statements or your credibility will rapidly
> > > deteriorate. Think of R.B.T. as a peer review.
> > So sue me dumby. I was still a member of the team that made the BCC Model 1 time sharing computer that would handle 100 simultaneous users. The largest time sharing computer at that time was an IBM that could handle 3 users. But as a snake you wouldn't know anything about anything and every day you show it. I now have 3800 miles on the bike and 72,000 feet of climbing. What do you have and if you don't ride a bike why are you on a technical group when you couldn't even lube your own chain?
> Berkeley Computer Corporation went bankrupt in >two years. BUT OMG, I found a reference to you: http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/bcc/originals/Admin/
>
> Go to the file: BCC_A-11.pdf 2001-12-05 00:00 2.5M
>
> "Kunich" appears on page 27 in "engineering support" whatever that was. Holy smokes, I think this is the first evidence of your professional existence outside your own Linked-In page. Did you ever get to drive the company Mercury station wagon?

You, like Russell or Jeff, none of you who know anything about engineering will say absolutely anything in an attempt to belittle my accomplishments. Do you suppose I give one shit what you think? I'm the one sitting here now worth a million and a half. I'm the one sitting with a garage full of bicycles with modern groups. I'm the one without a fear addiction as you three have. I really cannot even begin to understand how the minds of you three operate. Russell is probably like Jeff and hasn't ridden a bicycle in 20 years. You are now a cripple and a fear addict and want everyone to be the same as you. Too bad the world doesn't work that way. Maybe like Russell you can deny that was an entire football stadium chanting "Fuck Joe Biden" You and your kind is ended.

On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 6:41:29 PM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 12:03:27 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I was still a member of the team that made the BCC Model 1 time sharing computer that would handle 100 simultaneous users. The largest time sharing computer at that time was an IBM that could handle 3 users.
> Ummmm.... BCC was incorporated on Mar 9, 1969 and closed on Apr 17,
> 1972. Presumably, you worked for BCC during this time period. The
> 1972 publication of the Auerbach Guide to Timesharing lists 125 time
> share services and systems that were in operation by 1972.
> Unfortunately, the publication does not list the number of users. I
> assume most had more then 3 users/terminals/ports/modems.
> <http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/auerbach/GuideToTimesharing_Jan73..pdf>
> >I now have 3800 miles on the bike and 72,000 feet of climbing. What do you have and if you don't ride a bike why are you on a technical group when you couldn't even lube your own chain?
> I see. You expect me to demonstrate my bicycle riding and chain
> lubrication abilities in order to validate my competence in
> demonstrating that your are full of excrement. Sorry, but I fail to
> see a connection between miles ridden, feet climbed and chains lubed
> with your inability to survive a fairly simple fact checking.
> >Tell me you snake - why are you on this group?
> I'm your personal fact checker and peer reviewer. You're welcome.
> >As a cripple you can't ride so what do you suppose you're going to learn here?
> I've learned quite a bit about bicycles. Primarily, I'm interested in
> bicycle lighting and electrification. However, that was all before
> you returned to R.B.T. I probably should do something more useful,
> but I occasionally need to unload my frustrations on a willing victim.
> You seem to be enjoying the attention, so you were the obvious
> candidate.
> >How to dix a flat?
> What is a "dix"?
> >Maybe you are going to believe that crap about how many people have been vaccinated because your mind wanders since you got your vaccinations and that destroys your immune system and makes you the perfect target for a real disease?
> Yet another change of topic. I just realized something about you that
> I had previously missed. In any discussion, when someone points out
> that you are misled, misinformed, lying, or fabricating numbers, you
> never really respond to the topic under discussion. Is I recall, my
> first disagreement with you was when you declared that the average
> size of a farm in the US was 40 acres, and several people demonstrated
> that this was not the case. You never really replied and simply
> changed the topic. I should have caught it then. I must be getting
> old. Lately, it seems that you're wrong about almost any topic. So,
> instead of changing the topic, you revert to something you are
> familiar with such as Former President Trump, Covid-19, vaccines, CDC,
> President Biden, various conspiracies, and your stable of bicycles.
> However, these are getting old and you are probably in need of new
> material. Therefore, I suggest you look at the news for what is
> happening in China with electrical power, power shortages, Tofu Dreg
> infrastructure (collapsing buildings due to inferior materials and
> construction), exit of many large international businesses, high
> taxes, and various shortages. I would be interested in seeing how you
> might distort those problems.

More of a desire to show your high intellect by cutting and pasting off of the Internet? You are so unimpressive it is funny. We built the computer before 1971 and the prototype was sold by the owners whenever. The entire staff was gone so precisely why should I care then they technically closed? You will pretend anything to look like some sort of expert at something.

On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 6:42:00 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 10/4/2021 3:46 PM, jbeattie wrote:
> > On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 12:03:29 PM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 10:41:35 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 08:26:08 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 10:02:45 AM UTC-7, William Crowell wrote:
> >>>>> "There doesn't seem to be ANY way of contacting Craigslist to discover why this was."
> >>>>> Tom, pardon me for the digression from your topic, but did you ever try to get any telephone or email support from Google when you can't get one of their sites to work properly? Good luck with that.
> >>>>> What kind of a viable business model provides for absolutely no customer support?
> >>>> I was part of the group that built the computer that was the basis of Arcnet that became the Internet.
> >>> Ummm, that should be ARPANET:
> >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET>
> >>> and not Arcnet, which is a networking protocol:
> >>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARCNET>
> >>> There was an Air Force ARCNet:
> >>> <https://www.afrc.af.mil/About-Us/Innovation/Community/ARCNet/>
> >>> but that was well after the founding of the internet and had more to
> >>> do with USAF scheduling than todays internet.
> >>>
> >>> Like your inability to correctly spell two prior alleged employers
> >>> (Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and Lawrence Livermore National
> >>> Laboratory), I find it rather odd that someone who had worked for
> >>> ARPANET would be unable to produce the correct name. You don't seem
> >>> to have much difficulty spelling obscure bicycle vendor and component
> >>> names, yet former employers seem to be a problem. Perhaps that's
> >>> because you were never an employee at those places?
> >>>> IF you published sheer lies via opinion on the Arcnet you would be hung out to dry.
> >>> Please let me know where and when you expect to be hung out to dry? I
> >>> want to watch.
> >>>> Now consider this multiplied by 100 million on the Internet and exactly how could you ever expect to have the slightest references to anything that even might be true?
> >>> Ummm... More than 4 billion internet users world wide:
> >>> <https://www.statista.com/statistics/617136/digital-population-worldwide/>
> >>> Please update your fabricated numbers to resemble reality.
> >>>
> >>> Do you really think that anyone in R.B.T. believes you without
> >>> providing substantiation? Name dropping famous individuals,
> >>> companies, and institutions will only go so far. When challenged, you
> >>> will need to backup your statements or your credibility will rapidly
> >>> deteriorate. Think of R.B.T. as a peer review.
> >> So sue me dumby. I was still a member of the team that made the BCC Model 1 time sharing computer that would handle 100 simultaneous users. The largest time sharing computer at that time was an IBM that could handle 3 users. But as a snake you wouldn't know anything about anything and every day you show it. I now have 3800 miles on the bike and 72,000 feet of climbing.. What do you have and if you don't ride a bike why are you on a technical group when you couldn't even lube your own chain?
> >
> > Berkeley Computer Corporation went bankrupt in >two years. BUT OMG, I found a reference to you: http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/bcc/originals/Admin/
> >
> > Go to the file: BCC_A-11.pdf 2001-12-05 00:00 2.5M
> >
> > "Kunich" appears on page 27 in "engineering support" whatever that was. Holy smokes, I think this is the first evidence of your professional existence outside your own Linked-In page. Did you ever get to drive the company Mercury station wagon?
> Hmm. Mr. Kunich was one of 19 in that role. I wonder if all the others
> are now claiming to be geniuses, like Tom? And how strange that our
> local rock star didn't even qualify for "engineering" or "programming."
>
> When my students got jobs in "engineering support" they were doing
> things like drafting, typing data into forms or spreadsheets, acting as
> runners between different offices, etc. Those would have been part time
> jobs while they were still students, before they got their degrees.

That was my second job out of the Air Force and it was a technician job and I have said that many times before. Do you suppose that the computer could have been built by someone like you? Or maybe you want to pretend that I went from the Air Force directly into an engineering position. If that is your pretense tell me why I stated MANY times that I went from technician to senior technician to engineer to senior engineer. Your hated simply dribbles out of your lips and actually it is rather funny.

On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 8:06:37 PM UTC-7, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 2:03:29 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I now have 3800 miles on the bike and 72,000 feet of climbing.
> >
> Good job Tommy. I will admit under duress that you have bested me in cycling mileage this year. And most likely last year too. My mileage has been way down the past couple years for a few reasons.
Until my concussion, I was putting in 10,000 miles a year. And just three years ago before the Biden, I put in 250,000 feet of climbing.

On 10/5/2021 11:51 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 6:42:00 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 10/4/2021 3:46 PM, jbeattie wrote:
>>> "Kunich" appears on page 27 in "engineering support" whatever that was. Holy smokes, I think this is the first evidence of your professional existence outside your own Linked-In page. Did you ever get to drive the company Mercury station wagon?
>> Hmm. Mr. Kunich was one of 19 in that role. I wonder if all the others
>> are now claiming to be geniuses, like Tom? And how strange that our
>> local rock star didn't even qualify for "engineering" or "programming."
>>
>> When my students got jobs in "engineering support" they were doing
>> things like drafting, typing data into forms or spreadsheets, acting as
>> runners between different offices, etc. Those would have been part time
>> jobs while they were still students, before they got their degrees.
>
> That was my second job out of the Air Force and it was a technician job and I have said that many times before. Do you suppose that the computer could have been built by someone like you? Or maybe you want to pretend that I went from the Air Force directly into an engineering position. If that is your pretense tell me why I stated MANY times that I went from technician to senior technician to engineer to senior engineer.

You claim there were MANY times you went from technician to senior
technician to engineer to senior engineer, all while working for no
company for more than three years?

Your resume is that of a job hopper. You left most companies within two
years. That doesn't jibe with the advancements you brag about above. It
seems more plausible that you were competent enough to keep a low level
job ("Engineering Support") for a while, but so difficult to get along
with that you were repeatedly told to clean out your desk.

And BTW, being one of 19 "engineering support" staff way down at the
bottom of the organization chart doesn't justify your claim that YOU
built some sophisticated computer. It's more likely you had the job of
ordering the rolls of solder. (Which in those days contained lead, and
which may explain some of your other problems.)
- Frank Krygowski

On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 8:41:43 AM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 12:46:27 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
> > On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 12:03:29 PM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 10:41:35 AM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2021 08:26:08 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > > > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >On Thursday, September 30, 2021 at 10:02:45 AM UTC-7, William Crowell wrote:
> > > > >> "There doesn't seem to be ANY way of contacting Craigslist to discover why this was."
> > > > >> Tom, pardon me for the digression from your topic, but did you ever try to get any telephone or email support from Google when you can't get one of their sites to work properly? Good luck with that.
> > > > >> What kind of a viable business model provides for absolutely no customer support?
> > > > >I was part of the group that built the computer that was the basis of Arcnet that became the Internet.
> > > > Ummm, that should be ARPANET:
> > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET>
> > > > and not Arcnet, which is a networking protocol:
> > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARCNET>
> > > > There was an Air Force ARCNet:
> > > > <https://www.afrc.af.mil/About-Us/Innovation/Community/ARCNet/>
> > > > but that was well after the founding of the internet and had more to
> > > > do with USAF scheduling than todays internet.
> > > >
> > > > Like your inability to correctly spell two prior alleged employers
> > > > (Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and Lawrence Livermore National
> > > > Laboratory), I find it rather odd that someone who had worked for
> > > > ARPANET would be unable to produce the correct name. You don't seem
> > > > to have much difficulty spelling obscure bicycle vendor and component
> > > > names, yet former employers seem to be a problem. Perhaps that's
> > > > because you were never an employee at those places?
> > > > >IF you published sheer lies via opinion on the Arcnet you would be hung out to dry.
> > > > Please let me know where and when you expect to be hung out to dry? I
> > > > want to watch.
> > > > >Now consider this multiplied by 100 million on the Internet and exactly how could you ever expect to have the slightest references to anything that even might be true?
> > > > Ummm... More than 4 billion internet users world wide:
> > > > <https://www.statista.com/statistics/617136/digital-population-worldwide/>
> > > > Please update your fabricated numbers to resemble reality.
> > > >
> > > > Do you really think that anyone in R.B.T. believes you without
> > > > providing substantiation? Name dropping famous individuals,
> > > > companies, and institutions will only go so far. When challenged, you
> > > > will need to backup your statements or your credibility will rapidly
> > > > deteriorate. Think of R.B.T. as a peer review.
> > > So sue me dumby. I was still a member of the team that made the BCC Model 1 time sharing computer that would handle 100 simultaneous users. The largest time sharing computer at that time was an IBM that could handle 3 users. But as a snake you wouldn't know anything about anything and every day you show it. I now have 3800 miles on the bike and 72,000 feet of climbing. What do you have and if you don't ride a bike why are you on a technical group when you couldn't even lube your own chain?
> > Berkeley Computer Corporation went bankrupt in >two years. BUT OMG, I found a reference to you: http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/bcc/originals/Admin/
> >
> > Go to the file: BCC_A-11.pdf 2001-12-05 00:00 2.5M
> >
> > "Kunich" appears on page 27 in "engineering support" whatever that was. Holy smokes, I think this is the first evidence of your professional existence outside your own Linked-In page. Did you ever get to drive the company Mercury station wagon?
> You, like Russell or Jeff, none of you who know anything about engineering will say absolutely anything in an attempt to belittle my accomplishments.. Do you suppose I give one shit what you think? I'm the one sitting here now worth a million and a half. I'm the one sitting with a garage full of bicycles with modern groups. I'm the one without a fear addiction as you three have. I really cannot even begin to understand how the minds of you three operate. Russell is probably like Jeff and hasn't ridden a bicycle in 20 years. You are now a cripple and a fear addict and want everyone to be the same as you. Too bad the world doesn't work that way. Maybe like Russell you can deny that was an entire football stadium chanting "Fuck Joe Biden" You and your kind is ended.

Why do you think I'm belittling your accomplishments? I actually found an indication that you had an accomplishment. You should be thanking me for dredging up this reference to your employment at BCC as a tech. Although short lived as a company, the principals went on to accomplish a lot, and the one prototype BCC-500 produced by the company went on to become part of the backbone for ALOHAnet. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Genie You can legitimately say you were employed by one of the pioneering companies. I wouldn't dwell on your net worth, however, since any cat-lady living in a beaten-down ranch house in Cupertino is sitting on >$2M.

-- Jay Beattie.

On Tuesday, October 5, 2021 at 12:08:18 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 10/5/2021 11:51 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 6:42:00 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >> On 10/4/2021 3:46 PM, jbeattie wrote:
> >>> "Kunich" appears on page 27 in "engineering support" whatever that was. Holy smokes, I think this is the first evidence of your professional existence outside your own Linked-In page. Did you ever get to drive the company Mercury station wagon?
> >> Hmm. Mr. Kunich was one of 19 in that role. I wonder if all the others
> >> are now claiming to be geniuses, like Tom? And how strange that our
> >> local rock star didn't even qualify for "engineering" or "programming."
> >>
> >> When my students got jobs in "engineering support" they were doing
> >> things like drafting, typing data into forms or spreadsheets, acting as
> >> runners between different offices, etc. Those would have been part time
> >> jobs while they were still students, before they got their degrees.
> >
> > That was my second job out of the Air Force and it was a technician job and I have said that many times before. Do you suppose that the computer could have been built by someone like you? Or maybe you want to pretend that I went from the Air Force directly into an engineering position. If that is your pretense tell me why I stated MANY times that I went from technician to senior technician to engineer to senior engineer.
> You claim there were MANY times you went from technician to senior
> technician to engineer to senior engineer, all while working for no
> company for more than three years?
>
> Your resume is that of a job hopper. You left most companies within two
> years. That doesn't jibe with the advancements you brag about above. It
> seems more plausible that you were competent enough to keep a low level
> job ("Engineering Support") for a while, but so difficult to get along
> with that you were repeatedly told to clean out your desk.
>
> And BTW, being one of 19 "engineering support" staff way down at the
> bottom of the organization chart doesn't justify your claim that YOU
> built some sophisticated computer. It's more likely you had the job of
> ordering the rolls of solder. (Which in those days contained lead, and
> which may explain some of your other problems.)

lol....yup