On 7/19/23 2:33 AM, Dave Royal wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 17:01:17 -0400, Wolf Greenblatt wrote:
>
>> What's a good 9 inch or 10 inch tablet for a birthday gift?
>>
>> I'm thinking the minimum should be 64GB Wi-Fi with an sdcard slot.
>> Nothing else seems to be critical.
>>
>> The user has an old iPad mini which is falling apart.
>>
>> She mainly uses it for Netflix and YouTube so the OS doesn't matter,
>> especially as her phone is a high-end Galaxy & her PC a ThinkPad.
>>
>> She's not technical but she's comfortable punching buttons on any.
>>
>> I asked for a screenshot of the iPad general page and it showed that it
>> is Software Version 12.5.7, IPad mini 2, Model MF575LL/A.
>>
>> The screenshot didn't show the capacity so I asked and she said it was
>> 64GB with about 14GB available. She didn't know what was taking up that
>> space.
>>
>> All I want is to replace it, with the most cost effective tablet of a
>> similar size (she says she doesn't take pictures anymore with it).
>>
>> Costco has three sections for tablets to choose from.
>> Samsung https://www.costco.com/samsung-galaxy-tablets.html Apple
>> https://www.costco.com/ipad.html Accessories
>> https://www.costco.com/tablet-computers-accessories.html
>>
>> What would you suggest as a good replacement tablet with bang for the
>> buck?
>
> I notice that Costco are selling the Galaxy Tab S6 Lite - but only the
> 128GB model. From what you wrote it doesn't look like she needs more than
> 64 GB. (I have one.)
>
> But you may not get it cheaper if it's less popular. And there's a 2020
> and a 2022 version, so Costco might be selling the older one, though I
> don't know what the difference is.
>
> It has an sdcard slot too, which other well-known makes don't.

Jesus, those prices are ridiculous -- especially if she isn't exactly
what used to be known as a power user.

Look for 10" tablets on Amazon. Just as easy to return.

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On 7/19/23 7:33 AM, Wolf Greenblatt wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 09:33:29 -0000 (UTC), Dave Royal wrote:
>
>>> What would you suggest as a good replacement tablet with bang for the
>>> buck?
>>
>> I notice that Costco are selling the Galaxy Tab S6 Lite - but only the
>> 128GB model. From what you wrote it doesn't look like she needs more than
>> 64 GB. (I have one.)
>
> That Samsung Galaxy Tab S6 Lite is where I'll start comparisons then...
> https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_s6_lite-10158.php
>
> You are correct that she doesn't need more than 64GB, where currently
> that's plenty enough for her as she doesn't save much (she doesn't even
> know what's on there). She used to use it for pictures, but not now.
>
> Mostly it stays next to her in bed, always plugged in (even when in use)
> due to the battery, where it's her "handheld TV screen" so to speak.
>
> That means Wi-Fi is the most critical aspect, where I'm just trying to
> match the tablet-size specifications as close as it is possible.
> https://www.gsmarena.com/apple_ipad_mini_2-5735.php
>
> Type = IPS LCD
> Size = 7.9 inches, 193.3 cm2 (~71.7% screen-to-body ratio)
> Resolution = 1536 x 2048 pixels, 4:3 ratio (~324 ppi density)
>
> That Costco Galaxy Tab S6 Lite doesn't have a price listed though.
> https://www.costco.com/samsung-galaxy-10.4%22-tab-s6-lite-64gb---oxford-gray---includes-book-cover---sm-p613nzabxar.product.100660228.html
>
> Samsung Galaxy 10.4" Tab S6 Lite 64GB - Oxford Gray - Includes Book Cover
> SM-P613NZABXAR Item 1451576 Model SM-P610NZABXAR
>
> Features:
> Book Cover Included
> S Pen Included
> 10.4" LCD Display
> Dolby Atmos Surround Sound
> 8MP Rear, 5MP Front Camera
>
> Does anyone have a Costco login who can tell us the price for it?
> Then we can compare it with a similarly priced iPad for starters.

$250 + tax + $8 shipping

> She is operating system agnostic, as for this tablet, it's only a portable
> TV screen (so to speak), plus she already has all three platforms anyway.

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On 19 Jul 2023 10:33:34 -0400 Wolf Greenblatt wrote:
>
>Mostly it stays next to her in bed, always plugged in (even when in use)
>due to the battery, where it's her "handheld TV screen" so to speak.
>
Then _weight_ should be a major criterion. My Samsung GT S6 Lite is
lighter than any of my previous tablets - but that's probably true of any
new device.

You don't need a $250 tablet just to watch Netflix IMO. If a Fire does
that for $100 then it's good enough.
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On 7/19/23 10:48 AM, David Taylor wrote:
>On 19/07/2023 16:37, AJL wrote:
>>> Amazon Fire HD 10-inch.
>> Again, get the plus model if you go this way. The extra memory makes a BIG
>> difference...
>
>Thanks for the input. For basic Web browsing or viewing videos on the BBC
>iPlayer I find the basic model adequate, but I do have an iPad with I would
>normally use. Perhaps for anything more than basic use the extra memory may
>well be worth it.
>
>I bought the version without Ads, and there are times when access to mobile
>data might be useful. Whether the Fire range offers this I am unsure.

Don't think any offer it but you could hook one to your phone's hotspot and
get the same result...

On 7/19/23 10:50 AM, David Taylor wrote:
>On 19/07/2023 16:29, AJL wrote:
>> It seems each has three different sizes, 7", 8" and 10" so that's easy.
>> If it were for me, I'd make it ten inches but she's comfortable with 8.
>
>The video on the 8-inch is /much/ worse than the 10-inch. Much poorer
>resolution and scaling for the standard resolutions you get on the network.

The 8" is 189 PPI and the 10" is 224PPI so yes there is some difference. But
it doesn't bother me. And for many things like book reading and traveling a
smaller tablet is better IMO...

On 7/19/23 11:15 AM, Marco Moock wrote:
>Am 19.07.2023 um 15:37:30 Uhr schrieb AJL:
>
>>>>> What would you suggest as a good replacement tablet with bang for the buck?
>>>
>>>Amazon Fire HD 10-inch.
>>
>> Again, get the plus model if you go this way. The extra memory makes a BIG
>> difference...
>
>Do the Fire tablets have a choice to get one with an expansion sd slot?

All mine do and I think the current 8 and 10 inch do. The new 11 inch may
not. It also eliminated the earphone jack that the others have...

Am 19.07.2023 um 19:59:15 Uhr schrieb AJL:

> On 7/19/23 11:15 AM, Marco Moock wrote:
>>Am 19.07.2023 um 15:37:30 Uhr schrieb AJL:
>>
>>>>>> What would you suggest as a good replacement tablet with bang for the buck?
>>>>
>>>>Amazon Fire HD 10-inch.
>>>
>>> Again, get the plus model if you go this way. The extra memory makes a BIG
>>> difference...
>>
>>Do the Fire tablets have a choice to get one with an expansion sd slot?
>
> All mine do and I think the current 8 and 10 inch do. The new 11 inch may
> not. It also eliminated the earphone jack that the others have...

Are you sure not all the fire tablets have the normal headphone jack?
For tablets, it's pretty much been the standard since they first came out.

On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 16:04:54 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote:

>>Does anyone have a Costco login who can tell us the price for it?
>>Then we can compare it with a similarly priced iPad for starters.
>
> $249.97, but it's out of stock.
>
> The 128GB model is $329.99 after $70.00 off.

Thank you for logging into Costco to find the price for the suggested
Samsung Galaxy 10.4-inch Tab S6 Lite with 64GB 4GB RAM and for letting me
know it's out of stock (but she can probably find it on Amazon anyway).

To be fair to the other three suggestions, I should bring them all up or
down to the same size, where I don't want to provide her daughter with too
much detail.

Bob Campbell said there is only one 8 inch iPad (for over $500) and Chris
suggested the ten-inch size $329 https://www.apple.com/ipad-10.2/ and at
the same time David Taylor said the video is better on the 10-inch Fire.

So I'll limit all three (Fire, Android & Apple) to the larger 10 inch size.
I haven't checked prices or availability yet but does that seem to be fair?

1. An Amazon Fire 2022 10 inches, 64GB/2GB, with no ads for about $150
2. A Samsung Galaxy 10.4-inch Tab S6 Lite 64GB/4GB if avail, for about $250
3. An Apple iPad 9th gen 2021 10.2-inch model A2603 64GB/3GB for about $330

Is that the best bang for the buck in the 10-inch size for the three types?

On 7/19/2023 2:47 PM, Marco Moock wrote:
> Am 19.07.2023 um 19:59:15 Uhr schrieb AJL:

>>> Do the Fire tablets have a choice to get one with an expansion
>>> sd slot?
>>
>> All mine do and I think the current 8 and 10 inch do. The new 11
>> inch may not. It also eliminated the earphone jack that the others
>> have...
>
> Are you sure not all the fire tablets have the normal headphone jack?
> For tablets, it's pretty much been the standard since they first came
> out.

True. All the many Fire tablets I've ever owned over the years have had
the standard headphone jack. However the new Fire Max 11 only has a
USB-C port which is used for both charging and audio. You would need
a headphone adapter to use it. They also have adapters that allow you to
listen and charge at the same time. (I had such an adapter for a Lenovo
tablet with only a USB port.) Course there's also Bluetooth listening.
Unfortunately (IMO) headphone holes seem to be going the way of the
dinosaur these days...

On 7/18/2023 2:01 PM, Wolf Greenblatt wrote:
> What's a good 9 inch or 10 inch tablet for a birthday gift?

<snip>

> What would you suggest as a good replacement tablet with bang for the buck?

Samsung Galaxy 10.4" Tab S6 Lite for $249.97 at Costco.

Still has a headphone jack too!

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On 19 Jul 2023 18:11:50 -0400 Wolf Greenblatt wrote:
>
>So I'll limit all three (Fire, Android & Apple) to the larger 10 inch size.
>I haven't checked prices or availability yet but does that seem to be fair?
>
>1. An Amazon Fire 2022 10 inches, 64GB/2GB, with no ads for about $150
>2. A Samsung Galaxy 10.4-inch Tab S6 Lite 64GB/4GB if avail, for about $250
>3. An Apple iPad 9th gen 2021 10.2-inch model A2603 64GB/3GB for about $330
>
>Is that the best bang for the buck in the 10-inch size for the three types?

A comparison of weight, in case that's important:

1 282g
2 465g
3 474g

Old iPad mini: 331g

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Am 19.07.23 um 20:15 schrieb Marco Moock:
> Am 19.07.2023 um 15:37:30 Uhr schrieb AJL:
>
>>>>> What would you suggest as a good replacement tablet with bang for the buck?
>>>
>>> Amazon Fire HD 10-inch.
>>
>> Again, get the plus model if you go this way. The extra memory makes a BIG
>> difference...
>
> Do the Fire tablets have a choice to get one with an expansion sd slot?

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On 19/07/2023 20:55, AJL wrote:
> The 8" is 189 PPI and the 10" is 224PPI so yes there is some difference. But
> it doesn't bother me. And for many things like book reading and traveling a
> smaller tablet is better IMO...

It's not just the resolution, though. The interpolation is much poorer on the
8-inch (deliberate or just lack of processing power?) making the displayed
images much worse than the PPI difference would suggest.

For reading a Kindle takes a lot of beating and it is a more appropriate size.
Perhaps that might be a more educational gift?

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On 7/20/23 2:11 AM, David Taylor wrote:
>On 19/07/2023 20:55, AJL wrote:
>> The 8" is 189 PPI and the 10" is 224PPI so yes there is some difference. But
>> it doesn't bother me. And for many things like book reading and traveling a
>> smaller tablet is better IMO...
>
>It's not just the resolution, though. The interpolation is much poorer on the
>8-inch (deliberate or just lack of processing power?) making the displayed
>images much worse than the PPI difference would suggest.
>
>For reading a Kindle takes a lot of beating and it is a more appropriate size.

I haven't used a Kindle in years. About the only advantages are size and
battery length IMO. My reading includes color photos so black and white
didn't do it. Also if I wanted to stray off and check something the browser
was horribly slow.

One thing I like about the Fire tablets is the holding comfort. They're
light, the plastic case is non slip with big rounded edges and wide bezels
I can put my fat thumbs on without doing something bad on the screen. In
contrast this Chrome tablet I'm posting with is heavier, has sharp corners,
narrow bezel, and it's metal case is cold. Unfortunately the new Fire Max
11 is that way too. That and no headphone jack stopped me from considering
one...

>Perhaps that might be a more educational gift?

It's a YMMV thing of course. I solved it by getting both. The tenner sits
permanently on my treadmill and the 8" is mostly for reading, like in the
can... ;)

On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 15:39:06 -0000 (UTC), AJL wrote:

>>For reading a Kindle takes a lot of beating and it is a more appropriate size.
>
> I haven't used a Kindle in years. About the only advantages are size and
> battery length IMO. My reading includes color photos so black and white
> didn't do it. Also if I wanted to stray off and check something the browser
> was horribly slow.

What formats does the Kindle use?
I found these sites which are said to have every book you ever could want.
https://libgen.is/ & https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/

But there are many formats (epub, mobi, azw, azw3, pdf, docx, and more).
(I was looking for Oscar Wilde's "Salome" in the English translation.)
> One thing I like about the Fire tablets is the holding comfort. They're
> light, the plastic case is non slip with big rounded edges and wide bezels
> I can put my fat thumbs on without doing something bad on the screen. In
> contrast this Chrome tablet I'm posting with is heavier, has sharp corners,
> narrow bezel, and it's metal case is cold. Unfortunately the new Fire Max
> 11 is that way too. That and no headphone jack stopped me from considering
> one...

What format does the Fire tablet use to read the ebooks downloaded?

I see the Calibre ebook conversion tool has both an Android & iOS binary.
https://calibre-ebook.com/download

Does that calibre epub conversion software work on the Fire tablet too?
(Maybe with a conversion of Amazon-to-Google someone already spoke about?)

On 7/20/2023 9:07 AM, Mickey D wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 15:39:06 -0000 (UTC), AJL wrote:
>
>>> For reading a Kindle takes a lot of beating and it is a more
>>> appropriate size.
>>
>> I haven't used a Kindle in years. About the only advantages are
>> size and battery length IMO. My reading includes color photos so
>> black and white didn't do it. Also if I wanted to stray off and
>> check something the browser was horribly slow.

> What formats does the Kindle use?

Dunno. I just used my Kindles for Amazon books.

> I found these sites which are said to have every book you ever could
> want. https://libgen.is/ & https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/

I often get my ebooks from the thousands of "free" Prime books available
to me.

> But there are many formats (epub, mobi, azw, azw3, pdf, docx, and
> more). (I was looking for Oscar Wilde's "Salome" in the English
> translation.)

Many years ago I used to steal all my ebooks here on Usenet. I think I
used all those formats at one time or another. But then a grandson and
son-in-law became authors and I got religion. Now all my ebooks are
legal from Amazon or Google...

>> One thing I like about the Fire tablets is the holding comfort.
>> They're light, the plastic case is non slip with big rounded edges
>> and wide bezels I can put my fat thumbs on without doing something
>> bad on the screen. In contrast this Chrome tablet I'm posting with
>> is heavier, has sharp corners, narrow bezel, and it's metal case is
>> cold. Unfortunately the new Fire Max 11 is that way too. That and
>> no headphone jack stopped me from considering one...

> What format does the Fire tablet use to read the ebooks downloaded?

Fire tablets run the Fire OS which is a fork of Android. They can be
easily side-loaded so can run most any Android app. Thus you can likely
run most any Android ereader you wish.

> I see the Calibre ebook conversion tool has both an Android & iOS
> binary. https://calibre-ebook.com/download
>
> Does that calibre epub conversion software work on the Fire tablet
> too?

Dunno.

> (Maybe with a conversion of Amazon-to-Google someone already spoke
> about?)

That was me but there was no conversion. I just side-loaded 4 Google
apps that made it run like a Google tablet including the Play Store but
the Amazon side still worked as before...

On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 23:13:51 -0700, sms wrote:

>> What would you suggest as a good replacement tablet with bang for the buck?
>
> Samsung Galaxy 10.4" Tab S6 Lite for $249.97 at Costco.
>
> Still has a headphone jack too!

That's a good point that it has the headphone jack.
https://www.costco.com/samsung-galaxy-10.4%22-tab-s6-lite-64gb---oxford-gray---includes-book-cover---sm-p613nzabxar.product.100660228.html

For $249.97 you also get the case, the pen, the charger, the cable, sdcard
slot, SIM slot, GPS, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi (but maybe not wifi 6 though).

Can one pull the telco SIM card out of their phone and put it into that
Samsung tablet's SIM card slot and use it as their phone if they want to?

Or is the SIM card only for data?

On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 16:04:54 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote:

>>Does anyone have a Costco login who can tell us the price for it?
>>Then we can compare it with a similarly priced iPad for starters.
>
> $249.97, but it's out of stock.
>
> The 128GB model is $329.99 after $70.00 off.

Thank you for checking the prices. Apparently it's not in stock anywhere.
(Why do they even advertise it if you can't get it at any price?)

How does this one look as a replacement for that one which is out of stock?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09N3YS882

$215 SAMSUNG Galaxy Tab A8 10.5" 64GB Android Tablet, LCD Screen,
US Version, 2022, Silver

How do you compare screens for whether they're old or new tech lately?
Is the "LCD" what you look at or is the resolution what you look for?

On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 09:40:58 -0700, AJL <noemail@none.com> wrote:

>On 7/20/2023 9:07 AM, Mickey D wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 15:39:06 -0000 (UTC), AJL wrote:
>>
>>>> For reading a Kindle takes a lot of beating and it is a more
>>>> appropriate size.
>>>
>>> I haven't used a Kindle in years. About the only advantages are
>>> size and battery length IMO. My reading includes color photos so
>>> black and white didn't do it. Also if I wanted to stray off and
>>> check something the browser was horribly slow.
>
>> What formats does the Kindle use?
>
>Dunno. I just used my Kindles for Amazon books.
>
>> I found these sites which are said to have every book you ever could
>> want. https://libgen.is/ & https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/
>
>I often get my ebooks from the thousands of "free" Prime books available
>to me.

I get mine (Kindle) almost exclusively from the local library's web
site.

On 7/20/2023 11:27 AM, Charles Jack Jones wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 23:13:51 -0700, sms wrote:
>
>>> What would you suggest as a good replacement tablet with bang for the
>>> buck?
>>
>> Samsung Galaxy 10.4" Tab S6 Lite for $249.97 at Costco.
>>
>> Still has a headphone jack too!
>
> That's a good point that it has the headphone jack.
> https://www.costco.com/samsung-galaxy-10.4%22-tab-s6-lite-64gb---oxford-gray---includes-book-cover---sm-p613nzabxar.product.100660228.html
>
> For $249.97 you also get the case, the pen, the charger, the cable, sdcard
> slot, SIM slot, GPS, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi (but maybe not wifi 6 though).
>
> Can one pull the telco SIM card out of their phone and put it into that
> Samsung tablet's SIM card slot and use it as their phone if they want to?
>
> Or is the SIM card only for data?

That is not the LTE model. No SIM slot.

--
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really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

Another question about Samsung Galaxy 10.4" Tab S6 Lite non-LTE model is
whether or not it has a GPS chip. It appears to have that capability.

On Android tablets with a GPS chip you can use them for navigation with
stored maps and with other applications that require GPS capability. The
Wi-Fi only iPads don't have a GPS which is a problem for some apps. I
always advised people to buy the LTE version of the iPad, even if they
were not going to sign up for mobile data, because they would get the
GPS which is necessary if using the tablet as an off-line GPS navigation
device.

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really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 15:15:40 -0700, sms wrote:

>>> Samsung Galaxy 10.4" Tab S6 Lite for $249.97 at Costco.
>>>
>>> Still has a headphone jack too!
>>
>> That's a good point that it has the headphone jack.
>> https://www.costco.com/samsung-galaxy-10.4%22-tab-s6-lite-64gb---oxford-gray---includes-book-cover---sm-p613nzabxar.product.100660228.html
>>
>> For $249.97 you also get the case, the pen, the charger, the cable, sdcard
>> slot, SIM slot, GPS, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi (but maybe not wifi 6 though).
>>
>> Can one pull the telco SIM card out of their phone and put it into that
>> Samsung tablet's SIM card slot and use it as their phone if they want to?
>>
>> Or is the SIM card only for data?
>
> That is not the LTE model. No SIM slot.

What specific spec do you look for so that you can put a phone SIM into it?
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Tablet-Sim-Card/s?k=Samsung+Tablet+With+Sim+Card

On 7/20/2023 4:34 PM, Charles Jack Jones wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 15:15:40 -0700, sms wrote:
>
>>>> Samsung Galaxy 10.4" Tab S6 Lite for $249.97 at Costco.
>>>>
>>>> Still has a headphone jack too!
>>>
>>> That's a good point that it has the headphone jack.
>>> https://www.costco.com/samsung-galaxy-10.4%22-tab-s6-lite-64gb---oxford-gray---includes-book-cover---sm-p613nzabxar.product.100660228.html
>>>
>>> For $249.97 you also get the case, the pen, the charger, the cable,
>>> sdcard
>>> slot, SIM slot, GPS, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi (but maybe not wifi 6 though).
>>>
>>> Can one pull the telco SIM card out of their phone and put it into that
>>> Samsung tablet's SIM card slot and use it as their phone if they want
>>> to?
>>>
>>> Or is the SIM card only for data?
>>
>> That is not the LTE model. No SIM slot.
>
> What specific spec do you look for so that you can put a phone SIM into it?
> https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Tablet-Sim-Card/s?k=Samsung+Tablet+With+Sim+Card

It will say "LTE" or "Wi-Fi + LTE" or "4G LTE" somewhere.

i.e. <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09MSQ53HQ> "HYUNDAI HyTab Plus 10 Inch
Tablet, IPS Display, 4G LTE, WiFi, FHD Android Tablet, 32GB Storage, 2GB
RAM, Quad-Core Processor, 5000 mAh Battery, Android 11 Computer Tablets."

Some, like this Hyundai model, will function as a phone when you put in
a phone SIM card. Some, like the iPad, cannot function as a phone, the
mobile data is for data only.

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really do matter less than the opinions of experts. It's not
indoctrination nor elitism. It's just that you don't know as much as
they do about the subject.”—Tin Foil Awards

On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 15:19:23 +0000, Bob Campbell wrote:

>> But to replace it with "just anything" wouldn't need asking on this group.
>
> You are way overthinking this. Any of these tablets are going to be fine.
> All will have great "bang for buck".
>
> What is your price range? The 64GB iPad Mini 2 was $600 in 2013. $600
> today buys a very nice tablet, which will be overpowered and overpriced to
> be basically used as a TV.
>
> A $350 Samsung tablet or a $350 iPad will be fine. Both also have larger
> screens than the iPad mini 2 she currently has. The only model with a
> similar size to what she has now is the $500 iPad Mini 6.
>
> Does she like the size of the iPad mini? Does she want something bigger?
> How much do you want to spend?
>
> All of these are more important factors than "Android vs iOS".

Thanks for your advice. The woman's daughter couldn't get the one on sale.

So she bought this one. Gray. With case. But no pen. Not on sale. $300.
https://www.costco.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-a8-10.5%22-wi-fi-tablet-64gb---includes-book-cover.product.100830442.html
Costco seems to be giving double the manufacturer's warranty, apparently.

It is 10.5 inches & it comes with 64GB + expansion + Wi-Fi + GPS + nanoSIM.
3.5mm port + 7AH battery charged by a 15 Watt USB-C charger (in the box).
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/tablets/galaxy-tab-a/galaxy-tab-a8-64gb-gray-wi-fi-sm-x200nzaexar/

Does this mean it can work as a phone if she puts her phone SIM in it?
https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_a8_10_5_(2021)-11265.php

On 7/26/2023 2:56 PM, Wolf Greenblatt wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Jul 2023 15:19:23 +0000, Bob Campbell wrote:
>
>>> But to replace it with "just anything" wouldn't need asking on this group.
>>
>> You are way overthinking this. Any of these tablets are going to be fine.
>> All will have great "bang for buck".
>>
>> What is your price range? The 64GB iPad Mini 2 was $600 in 2013. $600
>> today buys a very nice tablet, which will be overpowered and overpriced to
>> be basically used as a TV.
>>
>> A $350 Samsung tablet or a $350 iPad will be fine. Both also have larger
>> screens than the iPad mini 2 she currently has. The only model with a
>> similar size to what she has now is the $500 iPad Mini 6.
>>
>> Does she like the size of the iPad mini? Does she want something bigger?
>> How much do you want to spend?
>>
>> All of these are more important factors than "Android vs iOS".
>
> Thanks for your advice. The woman's daughter couldn't get the one on sale.
>
> So she bought this one. Gray. With case. But no pen. Not on sale. $300.
> https://www.costco.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-a8-10.5%22-wi-fi-tablet-64gb---includes-book-cover.product.100830442.html
> Costco seems to be giving double the manufacturer's warranty, apparently.
>
> It is 10.5 inches & it comes with 64GB + expansion + Wi-Fi + GPS + nanoSIM.
> 3.5mm port + 7AH battery charged by a 15 Watt USB-C charger (in the box).
> https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/tablets/galaxy-tab-a/galaxy-tab-a8-64gb-gray-wi-fi-sm-x200nzaexar/
>
> Does this mean it can work as a phone if she puts her phone SIM in it?
> https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_a8_10_5_(2021)-11265.php

Since there is no SIM card slot the answer is no.

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