I've had a look round and can't find an Android newsgroup client which can
read and post to Usenet. Is there one either free or at a small one-off
price - no subscriptions?

--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.

Am 08.10.23 um 17:45 schrieb Bob Henson:
> I've had a look round and can't find an Android newsgroup client which can
> read and post to Usenet. Is there one either free or at a small one-off
> price - no subscriptions?

A news-client that complies with the standards in the Usenet does not
exist for Android.

Please do not use those two that are available but upset all other
users. They are utter crap.

--
Ave! Morituri te salutant!

Bob Henson wrote:

> I've had a look round and can't find an Android newsgroup client which can
> read and post to Usenet. Is there one either free or at a small one-off
> price - no subscriptions?

Most people try a couple, then seem to say "not good enough", a few
people find one of them acceptable ...

On 10/8/23 8:45 AM, Bob Henson wrote:
>I've had a look round and can't find an Android newsgroup client which can
>read and post to Usenet. Is there one either free or at a small one-off
>price - no subscriptions?
>

I'm posting this using PhoNews Pro on an my Amazon Fire 7 tablet (uses an
Android fork). I paid 2 bucks (US) for it about 4 years ago. It's a PITA to
use but does work. I use it on my phone also. It's in the Play Store.

If you're using Android 9 or earlier I suggest Groundhog. It's broken and
read only after about Android 9. However I still use it that way for
monitoring and switch to another reader if I want to post. It was my all
time Android favorite. It's available free on several sites...

Bob Henson <bob.henson@outlook.com> wrote:

> I've had a look round and can't find an Android newsgroup client which can
> read and post to Usenet. Is there one either free or at a small one-off
> price - no subscriptions?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.newsgroup
Last update: Nov 2019.
Adware.
Author's web site is dead (usenet.sinaapp.com).

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.cmg.android.phonews
Reveals phone number and OS in headers of submissions.
Adware. Pay to get rid of ads (and that's all you pay for); see:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cmgapps.android.phonewspro
Nags to have you rate the app.

Groundhog
Home site (http://www.almarsoft.com/) is dead.
No longer listed at Play Store. Available at:
https://m.apkpure.com/groundhog-usenet-reader/com.almarsoft.GroundhogReader

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ken.android.nntpreader.pro
Payware.
Last update: Oct 2014.

https://nzbget.net/download

Some Usenet providers have their own HTTP-to-NNTP gateway to let you
access Usenet using your web browser. For example,
https://help.easynews.com/kb/article/368-how-to-get-easynews-on-your-mobile-device/.
There are also web-based forums that leech from Usenet using an
HTTP-to-NNTP gateway.

Yeah, there's Google Groups which have private web-based forums and
Usenet (newsgroups) mashed together. However, many Usenetizens filter
out Google Gropers due to all the spam, trolls, peuriles, and uber-boobs
that reside there.
http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/

Read the reviews of each app at the Play Store. All the Android NNTP
apps are crap if you are accustomed to using NNTP clients on desktops.

On 10/8/2023 9:50 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
> Bob Henson <bob.henson@outlook.com> wrote:

>> I've had a look round and can't find an Android newsgroup client
>> which can read and post to Usenet. Is there one either free or at a
>> small one-off price - no subscriptions?

> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.cmg.android.phonews>

> Reveals phone number

Check my last post's (PhoNews) headers. No phone number there. Maybe the
free version?

> and OS in headers of submissions.

Yup. Does have that. Kinda seems like bragging using an Android
newsreader to post in an Android group. How often do you see that these
days...

This Windows post's headers will reveal my T-bird use. Not only that it
reveals that I use an old version that's not always wanting to update
itself. I feel naked...

> Adware. Pay to get rid of ads (and that's all you pay for);

Yup. Was worth every cent of the 2 bucks I spent. 4 years worth of ads,
yuck...

> see:
> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cmgapps.android.phonewspro>

> Nags to have you rate the app.

No nagging in recent years with mine. Maybe the free version?

On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 16:45:57 +0100, Bob Henson wrote:

> I've had a look round and can't find an Android newsgroup client which can
> read and post to Usenet. Is there one either free or at a small one-off
> price - no subscriptions?

On Android, I use PiaoHong's NewsGroup Reader

<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.newsgroup>

Free Android newsgroup clients include:

* PiaoHong's NewsGroup Reader <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.newsgroup>
* PhoNews <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.cmg.android.phonews>
* Usenet Reader for Android DEMO <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ken.android.nntpreader>

Android newsgroup clients with a one-off price include:

* Usenet NewsReader <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.NewsReader>
* PhoNews Pro Newsgroup Client <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cmgapps.android.phonewspro>
* Usenet Reader for Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ken.android.nntpreader.pro>

--
Kind regards
Ralph Fox

ζητεῖτε καὶ εὑρήσετε

Jörg Lorenz wrote:

> Am 08.10.23 um 17:45 schrieb Bob Henson:
>> I've had a look round and can't find an Android newsgroup client which can
>> read and post to Usenet. Is there one either free or at a small one-off
>> price - no subscriptions?
>
> A news-client that complies with the standards in the Usenet does not
> exist for Android.
>
> Please do not use those two that are available but upset all other
> users. They are utter crap.

That's more or less what the ones I looked at were like. I think, for the
odd times when I'm away from home, I'll manage without. Thanks for the
suggestions, folks.

--
Bob
Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England

Alimony - the Bounty on the Mutiny!

Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> Wrote in message:r
> On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 16:45:57 +0100, Bob Henson wrote:> I've had a look round and can't find an Android newsgroup client which can> read and post to Usenet. Is there one either free or at a small one-off> price - no subscriptions?On Android, I use PiaoHong's NewsGroup Reader <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.newsgroup>Free Android newsgroup clients include: * PiaoHong's NewsGroup Reader <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.newsgroup> * PhoNews <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=at.cmg.android.phonews> * Usenet Reader for Android DEMO <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ken.android.nntpreader>Android newsgroup clients with a one-off price include: * Usenet NewsReader <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.piaohong.NewsReader> * PhoNews Pro Newsgroup Client <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cmgapps.android.phonewspro> * Usenet Reader for Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ken.android.nntpreader.pro>-- Kind regardsRalph Fox??????? ??? ????????

I have the paid version of NewsGroup Reader (NNTP Newsreader)
which I'm now posting with and it screws up the post as you can
see. I earlier went back and tried the NewsGroup reader version
and it did the same thing. Someone else here here had the same
problem in an earlier thread. I haven't used it in awhile so just
downloaded a new copy from my Play Store account. Have you tryed
posting with it recently?
--

Bob Henson <bob.henson@outlook.com> wrote

> I've had a look round and can't find an Android newsgroup client which can
> read and post to Usenet. Is there one either free or at a small one-off
> price - no subscriptions?

https://xdaforums.com/t/a-list-of-android-usenet-newsreaders-how-to-search-reference-nntp-dejanews-google-web-archives-for-comp-mobile-android-newsgroup-topics-in-one-tap.4634973/

Moribundo <lindev.null@protonmail.com> Wrote in message:r
> Bob Henson <bob.henson@outlook.com> Wrote in message:r> I've had a look round and can't find an Android newsgroup client which canread and post to Usenet. Is there one either free or at a small one-offprice - no subscriptions?-- BobTetbury, Gloucestershire, EnglandChange is inevitable, except from a vending machine.I use 'newsgroup' by piaohong, available on Google play. It's not the best, but it works.-- ----Android NewsGroup Reader----https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

Your post looks good. Headers say the same version as mine. Yet
look what mine does (above). I like it better than PhoNews so
wish I could figure out how to fix it. As I said someone else
here had the same problem. Android version maybe??
--

Am 08.10.23 um 19:55 schrieb Bob Henson:
> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>
>> Am 08.10.23 um 17:45 schrieb Bob Henson:
>>> I've had a look round and can't find an Android newsgroup client which can
>>> read and post to Usenet. Is there one either free or at a small one-off
>>> price - no subscriptions?
>>
>> A news-client that complies with the standards in the Usenet does not
>> exist for Android.
>>
>> Please do not use those two that are available but upset all other
>> users. They are utter crap.
>
> That's more or less what the ones I looked at were like. I think, for the
> odd times when I'm away from home, I'll manage without. Thanks for the
> suggestions, folks.

It is better for your eyes anyway. And it is IMHO no fun to write
lengthy texts on a smartphone.

--
Ave! Morituri te salutant!

Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> wrote

> I read with Newsgroup Reader while on public transport many days, but
> I post with it only rarely.

I read with a one-tap shortcut and while I could post using it, I don't.
<https://i.postimg.cc/fTppT16Q/newsgroup01.jpg>

On 10/8/2023 1:59 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 12:35:42 -0700 (MST), AJL wrote:

>> I have the paid version of NewsGroup Reader (NNTP Newsreader)
>> which I'm now posting with and it screws up the post... [rest
>> snipped]

> You are right; it appears to remove all line breaks.

Moribundo gave me hope as his post with Newsgroup Reader looked normal.

> I read with Newsgroup Reader while on public transport many days, but
> I post with it only rarely.

If you do post with it please check back on if it posts OK. I've done
everything I can think of with mine but it's still broken. Guess I'll
delete it (again) for now...

On 10/8/2023 1:23 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 08.10.23 um 19:55 schrieb Bob Henson:
>> Jörg Lorenz wrote:

>>> Please do not use those two that are available but upset all
>>> other users. They are utter crap.
>>
>> That's more or less what the ones I looked at were like. I think,
>> for the odd times when I'm away from home, I'll manage without.
>> Thanks for the suggestions, folks.
>
> It is better for your eyes anyway. And it is IMHO no fun to write
> lengthy texts on a smartphone.

Perhaps not but it's a good time killer. I often read and post when out
and about and waiting for you know who...

On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 18:31:22 -0700, AJL wrote:
> On 10/8/2023 1:59 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:
>> On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 12:35:42 -0700 (MST), AJL wrote:
>
>>> I have the paid version of NewsGroup Reader (NNTP Newsreader)
>>> which I'm now posting with and it screws up the post... [rest
>>> snipped]
>
>> You are right; it appears to remove all line breaks.
>
> Moribundo gave me hope as his post with Newsgroup Reader looked normal.
>
>> I read with Newsgroup Reader while on public transport many days, but
>> I post with it only rarely.
>
> If you do post with it please check back on if it posts OK. I've done
> everything I can think of with mine but it's still broken. Guess I'll
> delete it (again) for now...

I did post with it (Newsgroup Reader) in my last post.

All the quoted text in my reply was unwrapped into a loooong line,
similar to your earlier example. My new added text was not affected
in the same way, again similar to your earlier example.

--
Kind regards
Ralph Fox
🦊

On 10/8/2023 7:02 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 18:31:22 -0700, AJL wrote:
>> On 10/8/2023 1:59 PM, Ralph Fox wrote:
>>> On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 12:35:42 -0700 (MST), AJL wrote:
>>
>>>> I have the paid version of NewsGroup Reader (NNTP Newsreader)
>>>> which I'm now posting with and it screws up the post... [rest
>>>> snipped]
>>
>>> You are right; it appears to remove all line breaks.
>>
>> Moribundo gave me hope as his post with Newsgroup Reader looked
>> normal.
>>
>>> I read with Newsgroup Reader while on public transport many
>>> days, but I post with it only rarely.
>>
>> If you do post with it please check back on if it posts OK. I've
>> done everything I can think of with mine but it's still broken.
>> Guess I'll delete it (again) for now...
>
>
> I did post with it (Newsgroup Reader) in my last post.

Ah. I misunderstood.

> All the quoted text in my reply was unwrapped into a loooong line,
> similar to your earlier example. My new added text was not affected
> in the same way, again similar to your earlier example.

Ok. Thanks for the info. That's 3 of us that have reported the problem
here. I've tried it on most of my Android devices including a Chromebook
with the same result so I doubt it's the Android version or a device.
Please check back if you happen to learn a fix...

On 10/8/23 1:23 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 08.10.23 um 19:55 schrieb Bob Henson:
>> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>
>>> Am 08.10.23 um 17:45 schrieb Bob Henson:
>>>> I've had a look round and can't find an Android newsgroup client which can
>>>> read and post to Usenet. Is there one either free or at a small one-off
>>>> price - no subscriptions?
>>>
>>> A news-client that complies with the standards in the Usenet does not
>>> exist for Android.
>>>
>>> Please do not use those two that are available but upset all other
>>> users. They are utter crap.
>>
>> That's more or less what the ones I looked at were like. I think, for the
>> odd times when I'm away from home, I'll manage without. Thanks for the
>> suggestions, folks.
>
> It is better for your eyes anyway. And it is IMHO no fun to write
> lengthy texts on a smartphone.

That's why we need speech-to-text. I've used this keyboard for a long
time. Free. Super-configurable. And you can have a microphone. I
mostly don't write long messages, but I use soeech in preference to
typing whenever I can.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aitype.android.f

....
Cheers, Bev
"We're so far beyond fucked we couldn't even catch a bus
back to fucked." --Scott en Aztlan

Story here: Scott used to post regularly into ca.driving (California,
not Canada) years ago when usenet was actually alive. He drove a yellow
Corvette. And then he suddenly stopped posting. His posts had been
marked x-no-archive (were those the magic words?) and he had completely
disappeared from the face of the earth. He was clever and funny.
Usenet has enabled us to regret the loss of perfect strangers. That's
probably a good thing.

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote

>> It is better for your eyes anyway. And it is IMHO no fun to write
>> lengthy texts on a smartphone.
>
> That's why we need speech-to-text. I've used this keyboard for a long
> time. Free. Super-configurable. And you can have a microphone. I
> mostly don't write long messages, but I use soeech in preference to
> typing whenever I can.
>
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aitype.android.f

1. I don't disagree that a keyboard with a mic button is de rigueur.

2. I'm also aware that a Google keyboard-with-mic has privacy issues.

3. Hence, I'd use a non-Google privacy-aware keyboard-with-mic button.

Having said that, I would _not_ choose one that has advertisements.
And, I would _not_ choose one that incorporates GSF spyware into it.

This one has both ads, and it incorporates GSF spyware into the APK.
ai.type Keyboard & Emoji 2022 by ai.type
Contains ads,GSF,In-app purchases,4.0star,44.2K reviews,5M+Downloads
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aitype.android.f>

This one does not.
OpenBoard valencia by Software Valencia
Free, adfree, gsfree, 1K+Downloads
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.softwarevalencia.openboard.inputmethod.latin>

Note I previously suggested this; but the Google Play Store link is dead.
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.dslul.openboard.inputmethod.latin>
<https://f-droid.org/packages/org.dslul.openboard.inputmethod.latin/>
<https://github.com/dslul/openboard>

It looks similar so I wonder if just the package name changed?
Anyone know more about what happened to the dslul openboard?

Funny thing happened when I installed it just now (since I already had
openboard previously installed). It didn't add itself to the keyboard list.

So I think they're one and the same but I'm not sure because the package
name is different. Anyone know more about this open source keyboard?
--
The whole point of Usenet is to find people who know more than you do.

Am 09.10.23 um 05:04 schrieb The Real Bev:
> On 10/8/23 1:23 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 08.10.23 um 19:55 schrieb Bob Henson:
>>> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 08.10.23 um 17:45 schrieb Bob Henson:
>>>>> I've had a look round and can't find an Android newsgroup client which can
>>>>> read and post to Usenet. Is there one either free or at a small one-off
>>>>> price - no subscriptions?
>>>>
>>>> A news-client that complies with the standards in the Usenet does not
>>>> exist for Android.
>>>>
>>>> Please do not use those two that are available but upset all other
>>>> users. They are utter crap.
>>>
>>> That's more or less what the ones I looked at were like. I think, for the
>>> odd times when I'm away from home, I'll manage without. Thanks for the
>>> suggestions, folks.
>>
>> It is better for your eyes anyway. And it is IMHO no fun to write
>> lengthy texts on a smartphone.
>
> That's why we need speech-to-text. I've used this keyboard for a long
> time. Free. Super-configurable. And you can have a microphone. I
> mostly don't write long messages, but I use soeech in preference to
> typing whenever I can.

In a doctor's office, store or a library?
At home OK but not outside.

--
Ave! Morituri te salutant!

Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote

> So I think they're one and the same but I'm not sure because the package
> name is different. Anyone know more about this open source keyboard?

Doh! Ignorance can be cured... it's stupidity that can't....

I found out more and wrote it up over here just now to help others...

*Open source Android keyboard with microphone (no ads, free, gsf spyware free)*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/QCGrcbz8gCY>
--
The whole point of Usenet is to find people who know more than you do.

On 2023-10-08 22:39, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 09.10.23 um 05:04 schrieb The Real Bev:
>> On 10/8/23 1:23 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> Am 08.10.23 um 19:55 schrieb Bob Henson:
>>>> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am 08.10.23 um 17:45 schrieb Bob Henson:
>>>>>> I've had a look round and can't find an Android newsgroup client
>>>>>> which can
>>>>>> read and post to Usenet. Is there one either free or at a small
>>>>>> one-off
>>>>>> price - no subscriptions?
>>>>>
>>>>> A news-client that complies with the standards in the Usenet does not
>>>>> exist for Android.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please do not use those two that are available but upset all other
>>>>> users. They are utter crap.
>>>>
>>>> That's more or less what the ones I looked at were like. I think,
>>>> for the
>>>> odd times when I'm away from home, I'll manage without. Thanks for the
>>>> suggestions, folks.
>>>
>>> It is better for your eyes anyway. And it is IMHO no fun to write
>>> lengthy texts on a smartphone.
>>
>> That's why we need speech-to-text.  I've used this keyboard for a long
>> time.  Free.  Super-configurable.  And you can have a microphone.  I
>> mostly don't write long messages, but I use soeech in preference to
>> typing whenever I can.
>
> In a doctor's office, store or a library?

That would be what "whenever I CAN" indicates.

> At home OK but not outside.

Why? Why nowhere but at home?

On 10/8/23 10:39 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 09.10.23 um 05:04 schrieb The Real Bev:
>> On 10/8/23 1:23 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>> Am 08.10.23 um 19:55 schrieb Bob Henson:
>>>> Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am 08.10.23 um 17:45 schrieb Bob Henson:
>>>>>> I've had a look round and can't find an Android newsgroup client which can
>>>>>> read and post to Usenet. Is there one either free or at a small one-off
>>>>>> price - no subscriptions?
>>>>>
>>>>> A news-client that complies with the standards in the Usenet does not
>>>>> exist for Android.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please do not use those two that are available but upset all other
>>>>> users. They are utter crap.
>>>>
>>>> That's more or less what the ones I looked at were like. I think, for the
>>>> odd times when I'm away from home, I'll manage without. Thanks for the
>>>> suggestions, folks.
>>>
>>> It is better for your eyes anyway. And it is IMHO no fun to write
>>> lengthy texts on a smartphone.
>>
>> That's why we need speech-to-text. I've used this keyboard for a long
>> time. Free. Super-configurable. And you can have a microphone. I
>> mostly don't write long messages, but I use soeech in preference to
>> typing whenever I can.
>
> In a doctor's office, store or a library?
> At home OK but not outside.

Yeah, there is that. OTOH, I don't spend a lot of time in those places.
Mostly at home at the computer. Why do I even NEED a phone?

--
Cheers, Bev
"If you watch TV news, you know less about the world than
if you just drank gin straight from the bottle."
- Garrison Keillor

AJL wrote:

> Your post looks good. Headers say the same version as mine. Yet look
> what mine does (above).

the stray ":r" that occurs twice, looks like something was trying to use
\r\n as a C-style carriage return plus line feed, but it went wrong,
can't think why it would, or how you could fix it though ...

Am 09.10.23 um 08:00 schrieb The Real Bev:
> On 10/8/23 10:39 PM, Jörg Lorenz wrote:
>> In a doctor's office, store or a library?
>> At home OK but not outside.
>
> Yeah, there is that. OTOH, I don't spend a lot of time in those places.
> Mostly at home at the computer. Why do I even NEED a phone?

Good question!

Thinking a short moment: Twint (digital cash), public transport tickets,
internet banking, camera, phone, instant messengers, e-mail etc. etc.

Without it we are all dead.

--
Ave! Morituri te salutant!