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* Not made in ChinaAMuzi
`* Re: Not made in ChinaTom Kunich
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Not made in China

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Subject: Not made in China
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 by: AMuzi - Thu, 25 Nov 2021 14:37 UTC

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59386433
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Re: Not made in China

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 by: Tom Kunich - Thu, 25 Nov 2021 15:03 UTC

On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 6:37:28 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59386433

Fulkrum who also make Campy's wheels are based in Italy and I think that they are completely made there. They appear to be almost entirely machine made for the aluminum wheels anyway.

Re: Not made in China

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 by: AMuzi - Thu, 25 Nov 2021 16:21 UTC

On 11/25/2021 9:03 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 6:37:28 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>> https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59386433
>
> Fulkrum who also make Campy's wheels are based in Italy and I think that they are completely made there. They appear to be almost entirely machine made for the aluminum wheels anyway.
>

Fulcrum is a brand of Campagnolo wheels, made in Italy,
Romania and Taiwan ROC.

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Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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 by: Tom Kunich - Thu, 25 Nov 2021 18:59 UTC

On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 8:21:06 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> On 11/25/2021 9:03 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 6:37:28 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> >> https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59386433
> >
> > Fulkrum who also make Campy's wheels are based in Italy and I think that they are completely made there. They appear to be almost entirely machine made for the aluminum wheels anyway.
> >
> Fulcrum is a brand of Campagnolo wheels, made in Italy,
> Romania and Taiwan ROC.

I had the idea that it was the opposite - that Fulkrum was the base company and they made all of the Campagnolo wheels in Italy. This is why the Campy wheels are so damn expensive.

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From: am...@yellowjersey.org (AMuzi)
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Subject: Re: Not made in China
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 by: AMuzi - Thu, 25 Nov 2021 19:35 UTC

On 11/25/2021 12:59 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 8:21:06 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 11/25/2021 9:03 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 6:37:28 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59386433
>>>
>>> Fulkrum who also make Campy's wheels are based in Italy and I think that they are completely made there. They appear to be almost entirely machine made for the aluminum wheels anyway.
>>>
>> Fulcrum is a brand of Campagnolo wheels, made in Italy,
>> Romania and Taiwan ROC.
>
> I had the idea that it was the opposite - that Fulkrum was the base company and they made all of the Campagnolo wheels in Italy. This is why the Campy wheels are so damn expensive.
>

Campagnolo's wheel product line had been successful[1] for
many years before they decided to offer non-Campagnolo
format cassette bodies as an option. That was the impetus
for a second brand[2]. Fulcrum has always existed only as a
label for Campagnolo wheels.

[1]Some riders might prefer chinese tubeless carbon rims but
hey ride what you like.

[2] besides the obvious bonuses of 'selling both sides of
the street' and more skus for distributors/dealers. win-win,
if you're the manufacturer.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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 by: Tom Kunich - Thu, 25 Nov 2021 20:15 UTC

On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 11:35:45 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> On 11/25/2021 12:59 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 8:21:06 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> >> On 11/25/2021 9:03 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, November 25, 2021 at 6:37:28 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> >>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59386433
> >>>
> >>> Fulkrum who also make Campy's wheels are based in Italy and I think that they are completely made there. They appear to be almost entirely machine made for the aluminum wheels anyway.
> >>>
> >> Fulcrum is a brand of Campagnolo wheels, made in Italy,
> >> Romania and Taiwan ROC.
> >
> > I had the idea that it was the opposite - that Fulkrum was the base company and they made all of the Campagnolo wheels in Italy. This is why the Campy wheels are so damn expensive.
> >
> Campagnolo's wheel product line had been successful[1] for
> many years before they decided to offer non-Campagnolo
> format cassette bodies as an option. That was the impetus
> for a second brand[2]. Fulcrum has always existed only as a
> label for Campagnolo wheels.
>
> [1]Some riders might prefer chinese tubeless carbon rims but
> hey ride what you like.
>
> [2] besides the obvious bonuses of 'selling both sides of
> the street' and more skus for distributors/dealers. win-win,
> if you're the manufacturer.
Thanks for the info. That is different from what was published elsewhere.

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