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by: AMuzi - Fri, 10 Dec 2021 15:16 UTC

https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20211209-spectator-who-caused-horrific-tour-de-france-pile-up-fined-1-200-euros
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by: Lou Holtman - Fri, 10 Dec 2021 15:23 UTC

On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 4:16:43 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
> https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20211209-spectator-who-caused-horrific-tour-de-france-pile-up-fined-1-200-euros
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> Andrew Muzi
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Only 1200 euro? That is cheap. You can't buy a wheelset for that money. Stupid woman.

Lou

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by: Tom Kunich - Fri, 10 Dec 2021 16:01 UTC

On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 7:23:58 AM UTC-8, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 4:16:43 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
> > https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20211209-spectator-who-caused-horrific-tour-de-france-pile-up-fined-1-200-euros
> > --
> > Andrew Muzi
> > <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> > Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> Only 1200 euro? That is cheap. You can't buy a wheelset for that money. Stupid woman.
>
> Lou

This isn't something that happens all that uncommonly. So why did they chose this woman to prosecute?

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by: Roger Merriman - Fri, 10 Dec 2021 22:51 UTC

Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 7:23:58 AM UTC-8, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 4:16:43 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
>>> https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20211209-spectator-who-caused-horrific-tour-de-france-pile-up-fined-1-200-euros
>>>
>>> --
>>> Andrew Muzi
>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>> Only 1200 euro? That is cheap. You can't buy a wheelset for that money. Stupid woman.
>>
>> Lou
>
> This isn't something that happens all that uncommonly. So why did they
> chose this woman to prosecute?
>

Crowds getting in the way has been one of the themes for a while, number of
riders did short video clips for TDF asking folks to give them space.

And well it really was very foolish of her and careless to put it mildly.

Roger Merriman.

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by: Simon S Aysdie - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 00:57 UTC

On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 7:16:43 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
> https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20211209-spectator-who-caused-horrific-tour-de-france-pile-up-fined-1-200-euros
> --
> Andrew Muzi
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> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

It was a dumb move by the spectator. There should be consequences.

But bike racers do really dumb things to other bike racers very commonly: sometimes a bonehead move causes huge pile-ups, injury, and damage. They can get penalties... of course. I am not sure how a broad view of justice works for these mishaps. It was not intentional.

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by: slto...@gmail.com - Sat, 11 Dec 2021 15:24 UTC

On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 2:51:05 PM UTC-8, Roger Merriman wrote:
> Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 7:23:58 AM UTC-8, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 4:16:43 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
> >>> https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20211209-spectator-who-caused-horrific-tour-de-france-pile-up-fined-1-200-euros
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Andrew Muzi
> >>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> >>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >> Only 1200 euro? That is cheap. You can't buy a wheelset for that money. Stupid woman.
> >>
> >> Lou
> >
> > This isn't something that happens all that uncommonly. So why did they
> > chose this woman to prosecute?
> >
> Crowds getting in the way has been one of the themes for a while, number of
> riders did short video clips for TDF asking folks to give them space.
>
> And well it really was very foolish of her and careless to put it mildly.

Do you remember Pantani pushing through crowds of people to get to the finish line of a climb? People were standing directly in front of him and this was fully televised. Imagine what it was like when everyone was using flash film cameras in the 60's.

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by: Roger Merriman - Sun, 12 Dec 2021 00:53 UTC

slto...@gmail.com <sltom992@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 2:51:05 PM UTC-8, Roger Merriman wrote:
>> Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 7:23:58 AM UTC-8, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 4:16:43 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>> https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20211209-spectator-who-caused-horrific-tour-de-france-pile-up-fined-1-200-euros
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Andrew Muzi
>>>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>>>> Only 1200 euro? That is cheap. You can't buy a wheelset for that money. Stupid woman.
>>>>
>>>> Lou
>>>
>>> This isn't something that happens all that uncommonly. So why did they
>>> chose this woman to prosecute?
>>>
>> Crowds getting in the way has been one of the themes for a while, number of
>> riders did short video clips for TDF asking folks to give them space.
>>
>> And well it really was very foolish of her and careless to put it mildly.
>
> Do you remember Pantani pushing through crowds of people to get to the
> finish line of a climb? People were standing directly in front of him and
> this was fully televised. Imagine what it was like when everyone was
> using flash film cameras in the 60's.
>
TDF has changed many things over the years, while I do like that you can
get close to the race, I’m personally not a fan of the race being altered
by fans, and frankly I watch to see the mountain not the crowds.

Roger Merriman

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by: slto...@gmail.com - Sun, 12 Dec 2021 16:54 UTC

On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 4:53:14 PM UTC-8, Roger Merriman wrote:
> slto...@gmail.com <slto...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 2:51:05 PM UTC-8, Roger Merriman wrote:
> >> Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 7:23:58 AM UTC-8, lou.h...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 4:16:43 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
> >>>>> https://www.rfi.fr/en/sports/20211209-spectator-who-caused-horrific-tour-de-france-pile-up-fined-1-200-euros
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Andrew Muzi
> >>>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> >>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >>>> Only 1200 euro? That is cheap. You can't buy a wheelset for that money. Stupid woman.
> >>>>
> >>>> Lou
> >>>
> >>> This isn't something that happens all that uncommonly. So why did they
> >>> chose this woman to prosecute?
> >>>
> >> Crowds getting in the way has been one of the themes for a while, number of
> >> riders did short video clips for TDF asking folks to give them space.
> >>
> >> And well it really was very foolish of her and careless to put it mildly.
> >
> > Do you remember Pantani pushing through crowds of people to get to the
> > finish line of a climb? People were standing directly in front of him and
> > this was fully televised. Imagine what it was like when everyone was
> > using flash film cameras in the 60's.
> >
> TDF has changed many things over the years, while I do like that you can
> get close to the race, I’m personally not a fan of the race being altered
> by fans, and frankly I watch to see the mountain not the crowds.

Well, I didn't much care for the way people behaved even near the top of the mountains. The only place that the crowds were definitely excluded from the track was at the finish line where there could possibly be a sprint. But I watched people, after their favorites passed, breaking bottles on the roads to give anyone chasing flats.

Subject	Author
Tour de France update	AMuzi
Re: Tour de France update	Lou Holtman
Re: Tour de France update	Tom Kunich
Re: Tour de France update	Roger Merriman
Re: Tour de France update	slto...@gmail.com
Re: Tour de France update	Roger Merriman
Re: Tour de France update	slto...@gmail.com
Re: Tour de France update	Simon S Aysdie