I'm traveling now and don't have enoug time to reply in the previous
thread I started, but here is one of two more.

Phone calls are more important than ever when someone is leaving the
next day, or when medical advice is needed, and I called a friend of my
brother's who is a doctor. And it went to voicemail every time, a long
recording about his email address, who to call about his job, etc.

Finally it occurred to me to use Whatsapp and that went right not him,
no detour to voicemail. Viva la whatsapp!!

I was going to try Skype next but I think it would not have worked. When
someone doesn't have a Skype-number to call, I think it's too much like
the telephone

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> I'm traveling now and don't have enoug time to reply in the previous
> thread I started, but here is one of two more.
>
> Phone calls are more important than ever when someone is leaving the
> next day, or when medical advice is needed, and I called a friend of my
> brother's who is a doctor. And it went to voicemail every time, a long
> recording about his email address, who to call about his job, etc.
>
> Finally it occurred to me to use Whatsapp and that went right not him,
> no detour to voicemail. Viva la whatsapp!!

If the number is a mobile number, then WhatsApp is indeed worth a try.

Did you send a (text) message via WhatsApp or did you do a
WhatsApp-to-WhatsApp voice call?

> I was going to try Skype next but I think it would not have worked. When
> someone doesn't have a Skype-number to call, I think it's too much like
> the telephone

No, it's if someone *does* have a Skype-*number*, then it's mostly
like a normal telephone call.

If someone does *not* have a Skype-*number*, you can only use a
Skype-to-Skype voice call if the recipient has a Skype account (and you
know the Skype *name*).

In comp.mobile.android, on 3 Jan 2024 18:30:50 GMT, Frank Slootweg
<this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

>micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
>> I'm traveling now and don't have enoug time to reply in the previous
>> thread I started, but here is one of two more.
>>
>> Phone calls are more important than ever when someone is leaving the
>> next day, or when medical advice is needed, and I called a friend of my
>> brother's who is a doctor. And it went to voicemail every time, a long
>> recording about his email address, who to call about his job, etc.
>>
>> Finally it occurred to me to use Whatsapp and that went right not him,
>> no detour to voicemail. Viva la whatsapp!!
>
> If the number is a mobile number, then WhatsApp is indeed worth a try.
>
> Did you send a (text) message via WhatsApp or did you do a
>WhatsApp-to-WhatsApp voice call?

I should have thought of texts, just to tell him to call me, but this
was a voice whatsapp call. But I presume it doesn't deal with his
celllular provider's phone number, except to find the phone, and then it
goes straight to Whatsapp.

>> I was going to try Skype next but I think it would not have worked. When
>> someone doesn't have a Skype-number to call, I think it's too much like
>> the telephone
>
> No, it's if someone *does* have a Skype-*number*, then it's mostly
>like a normal telephone call.
>
> If someone does *not* have a Skype-*number*, you can only use a
>Skype-to-Skype voice call if the recipient has a Skype account (and you
>know the Skype *name*).

I'm confused, by my own sentence too, but never mind. I'm sticking to
whatsapp, which is more common anyhow i think.

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on 3 Jan 2024 18:30:50 GMT, Frank Slootweg
> <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>
> >micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> >> I'm traveling now and don't have enoug time to reply in the previous
> >> thread I started, but here is one of two more.
> >>
> >> Phone calls are more important than ever when someone is leaving the
> >> next day, or when medical advice is needed, and I called a friend of my
> >> brother's who is a doctor. And it went to voicemail every time, a long
> >> recording about his email address, who to call about his job, etc.
> >>
> >> Finally it occurred to me to use Whatsapp and that went right not him,
> >> no detour to voicemail. Viva la whatsapp!!
> >
> > If the number is a mobile number, then WhatsApp is indeed worth a try.
> >
> > Did you send a (text) message via WhatsApp or did you do a
> >WhatsApp-to-WhatsApp voice call?
>
> I should have thought of texts, just to tell him to call me, but this
> was a voice whatsapp call. But I presume it doesn't deal with his
> celllular provider's phone number, except to find the phone, and then it
> goes straight to Whatsapp.

Correct!

> >> I was going to try Skype next but I think it would not have worked. When
> >> someone doesn't have a Skype-number to call, I think it's too much like
> >> the telephone
> >
> > No, it's if someone *does* have a Skype-*number*, then it's mostly
> >like a normal telephone call.
> >
> > If someone does *not* have a Skype-*number*, you can only use a
> >Skype-to-Skype voice call if the recipient has a Skype account (and you
> >know the Skype *name*).
>
> I'm confused, by my own sentence too, but never mind. I'm sticking to
> whatsapp, which is more common anyhow i think.

Good on you! Whatever the problem, WhatsApp is the solution! :-)

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:

> I'm traveling now and don't have enoug time to reply in the previous
> thread I started, but here is one of two more.
>
> Phone calls are more important than ever when someone is leaving the
> next day, or when medical advice is needed, and I called a friend of
> my brother's who is a doctor. And it went to voicemail every time, a
> long recording about his email address, who to call about his job,
> etc.
>
> Finally it occurred to me to use Whatsapp and that went right not
> him, no detour to voicemail. Viva la whatsapp!!
>
> I was going to try Skype next but I think it would not have worked.
> When someone doesn't have a Skype-number to call, I think it's too
> much like the telephone

Whatsapp is a chat client using whatever Internet connection you have
whether that is via carrier data or wifi hotspot.

Your phone calls are using your carrier's voice service.

You've noted in the past having difficulties contacting your brother via
phone call. Technology isn't going to alter his behavior for calls.
Apparently he is more receptive to chat apps, like WhatsApp.

Oh, by the way, WhatsApp has voicemail, too, so it is your brother's
behavior that varies between picking up phone calls versus attending to
chat messages.

https://faq.whatsapp.com/1165411581043811/?cms_platform=web
https://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/whatsapp-introduces-voicemail-updates-message-8625386

Sorry, we have no means to alter your brother's behaviors.

Skype is another chat app. "Calls" are free between Skype users, but
you have to buy SkypeOut minutes to get your Skype voip call connected
to a telco or carrier for the recipient.

VanguardLH, 2024-01-04 04:32:

[...]
> Whatsapp is a chat client using whatever Internet connection you have
> whether that is via carrier data or wifi hotspot.
>
> Your phone calls are using your carrier's voice service.

When you have a 4G or 5G connection, phone calls are usually also using
the internet connection of the provider - the data used for that is just
not accounted. And there is also WiFi calling which is supported by a
number of providers and works even without a mobile network available.

--
Arno Welzel
https://arnowelzel.de

On 03.01.24 18:02, micky wrote:
> I'm traveling now and don't have enoug time to reply in the previous
> thread I started, but here is one of two more.
>
> Phone calls are more important than ever when someone is leaving the
> next day, or when medical advice is needed, and I called a friend of my
> brother's who is a doctor. And it went to voicemail every time, a long
> recording about his email address, who to call about his job, etc.
>
> Finally it occurred to me to use Whatsapp and that went right not him,
> no detour to voicemail. Viva la whatsapp!!

WhatsApp has nothing to do with your mobile telephony. It is a messenger
with phone function that bypasses the public phone network.

> I was going to try Skype next but I think it would not have worked. When
> someone doesn't have a Skype-number to call, I think it's too much like
> the telephone

Then it uses the public phone network.

--
"Roma locuta, causa finita." (Augustinus)