I can't remember.... Is this native Android, or do I have it only
becauze I installed Gboard?

A friend of my older brother, who always seems to know what's what, and
who manages to do his job as a radiologist, M.D., even when he's
traveling, seems to need my help for a couple things regarding the PC
and cell phone.

One of them is the ability to speak and turn it into text, for 1) search
terms with a web browsr, 2) text for texts, and maybe 3) Other things??

Being able to do these things just by talking makes the world a lot
better.

But I can't remember.... Is this native Android, or do I have it only
becauze I installed Gboard?

If this isn't what Gboard provided, then what did Gboard provide?

I don't want him either struggling to do it withougt Gboard if it's
needed, or installing Gboard for no special reason.

On 1/27/24 4:46 PM, micky wrote:
> I can't remember.... Is this native Android, or do I have it only
> becauze I installed Gboard?
>
> A friend of my older brother, who always seems to know what's what, and
> who manages to do his job as a radiologist, M.D., even when he's
> traveling, seems to need my help for a couple things regarding the PC
> and cell phone.
>
> One of them is the ability to speak and turn it into text, for 1) search
> terms with a web browsr, 2) text for texts, and maybe 3) Other things??
>
> Being able to do these things just by talking makes the world a lot
> better.
>
> But I can't remember.... Is this native Android, or do I have it only
> becauze I installed Gboard?
>
> If this isn't what Gboard provided, then what did Gboard provide?
>
> I don't want him either struggling to do it withougt Gboard if it's
> needed, or installing Gboard for no special reason.

My Pixel2 has a choice of Gboard, ai.type keyboard or google voice
typing. I downloaded ai.type and use it. Not sure where Gboard came
from, but Google voice typing is native. Gboard claims to be multilingual.

I love ai.type. I only type with my fingers/thumbs when I can't use my
voice.

--
Cheers, Bev
SAVE GAS, FART IN A JAR

On 2024-1-27 19:46, micky wrote:
> ...
> One of them is the ability to speak and turn it into text, for 1) search
> terms with a web browsr, 2) text for texts, and maybe 3) Other things??
>
> Being able to do these things just by talking makes the world a lot
> better.
>
> But I can't remember.... Is this native Android, or do I have it only
> becauze I installed Gboard?
>
Voice to text is not native function of Android. I acquired it through
Gboard keyboard.

--
Regards,
Wei Lu
PGP: 0xA12FEF7592CCE1EA

In comp.mobile.android, on Sat, 27 Jan 2024 23:22:41 -0500, Wei Lu
<luweitest@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 2024-1-27 19:46, micky wrote:
>> ...
>> One of them is the ability to speak and turn it into text, for 1) search
>> terms with a web browsr, 2) text for texts, and maybe 3) Other things??
>>
>> Being able to do these things just by talking makes the world a lot
>> better.
>>
>> But I can't remember.... Is this native Android, or do I have it only
>> becauze I installed Gboard?
>>
>Voice to text is not native function of Android. I acquired it through
>Gboard keyboard.

Well, I don't even know what brand of phone he has but in case it's a
Pixel like Bev really has, I'll phrase it conditionally. But I'll bet
your situation is more like my brother's friend's and I will certainly
encourage him to put in Gboard.

Thanks for both answers.

On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 22:42:22 -0500, micky wrote:

> Thanks for both answers.

Another answer is this app adds speech to text also, at least for the
keyboard (I don't know if it adds STT for something like a browser).
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.softwarevalencia.openboard.inputmethod.latin

In comp.mobile.android, on Sun, 28 Jan 2024 00:46:29 -0500, Wolf
Greenblatt <wolf@greenblatt.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 22:42:22 -0500, micky wrote:
>
>> Thanks for both answers.
>
>Another answer is this app adds speech to text also, at least for the
>keyboard (I don't know if it adds STT for something like a browser).
>https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.softwarevalencia.openboard.inputmethod.latin

Thanks

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/27/24 4:46 PM, micky wrote:
> > I can't remember.... Is this native Android, or do I have it only
> > becauze I installed Gboard?
> >
> > A friend of my older brother, who always seems to know what's what, and
> > who manages to do his job as a radiologist, M.D., even when he's
> > traveling, seems to need my help for a couple things regarding the PC
> > and cell phone.
> >
> > One of them is the ability to speak and turn it into text, for 1) search
> > terms with a web browsr, 2) text for texts, and maybe 3) Other things??
> >
> > Being able to do these things just by talking makes the world a lot
> > better.
> >
> > But I can't remember.... Is this native Android, or do I have it only
> > becauze I installed Gboard?
> >
> > If this isn't what Gboard provided, then what did Gboard provide?
> >
> > I don't want him either struggling to do it withougt Gboard if it's
> > needed, or installing Gboard for no special reason.
>
> My Pixel2 has a choice of Gboard, ai.type keyboard or google voice
> typing. I downloaded ai.type and use it. Not sure where Gboard came
> from, but Google voice typing is native. Gboard claims to be multilingual.

AFAICT, contrary to what Wei Lu said, Google Voice Typing *is*
standard on Android. At least my Samsung phone (Android 13) does *not*
have Gboard (but Samsung Keyboard), but still has 'Google Voice Typing'
in its Keyboard list.

> I love ai.type. I only type with my fingers/thumbs when I can't use my
> voice.

In comp.mobile.android, on 28 Jan 2024 16:25:50 GMT, Frank Slootweg
<this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:

>The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 1/27/24 4:46 PM, micky wrote:
>> > I can't remember.... Is this native Android, or do I have it only
>> > becauze I installed Gboard?
>> >
>> > A friend of my older brother, who always seems to know what's what, and
>> > who manages to do his job as a radiologist, M.D., even when he's
>> > traveling, seems to need my help for a couple things regarding the PC
>> > and cell phone.
>> >
>> > One of them is the ability to speak and turn it into text, for 1) search
>> > terms with a web browsr, 2) text for texts, and maybe 3) Other things??
>> >
>> > Being able to do these things just by talking makes the world a lot
>> > better.
>> >
>> > But I can't remember.... Is this native Android, or do I have it only
>> > becauze I installed Gboard?
>> >
>> > If this isn't what Gboard provided, then what did Gboard provide?
>> >
>> > I don't want him either struggling to do it withougt Gboard if it's
>> > needed, or installing Gboard for no special reason.
>>
>> My Pixel2 has a choice of Gboard, ai.type keyboard or google voice
>> typing. I downloaded ai.type and use it. Not sure where Gboard came
>> from, but Google voice typing is native. Gboard claims to be multilingual.
>
> AFAICT, contrary to what Wei Lu said, Google Voice Typing *is*
>standard on Android. At least my Samsung phone (Android 13) does *not*
>have Gboard (but Samsung Keyboard), but still has 'Google Voice Typing'
>in its Keyboard list.

Am I correct that one views the Keyboard list by swiping left or right
the space bar in the keyboard? If not, where is the list.

My situation is diffent. I have a low end Samsung phone from 2019, and
a moderately low end Xiaomi phone from from 2021.

I finally figured out how to see if an app is installed, by going to the
play store and starting to install it, and both have Gobard installed. I
dont' want to UNinstall it to see what is left -- that would be looking
for trouble.

The Xiaomi has Google Voice installed, but a) that's not Google Voice
Typing is it? b) I haven't chosen a phone number. The Samsung does
not have it installed. ---- There is also Google Voice Search and
Google Voice Assistent or maybe Search Assistent

Aha, there is also Google Speech Recognition and Synthesis. That sounds
like the heart of the matter and both phones have that. Does anyone
just install that? More likely it comes with Gboard and other keyboard
programs and that's what people install, right?

AFaICT neither has Google Voice Typing, certainly not those words
anywhere, but for texting the upper right corner of the keyboard has the
symbol of a microphone, next to Settings gear for the Samsung, next to a
magnifying glass for Xiaomi. Other functions have a microphone symbol in
the field where one is to enter text, or in the top corner of the
switchboard.

Is this what you mean by built-in, or does this appear becuase of Gob
>
>> I love ai.type. I only type with my fingers/thumbs when I can't use my
>> voice.

On 1/28/24 9:33 AM, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on 28 Jan 2024 16:25:50 GMT, Frank Slootweg
> <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>
>>The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 1/27/24 4:46 PM, micky wrote:
>>> > I can't remember.... Is this native Android, or do I have it only
>>> > becauze I installed Gboard?
>>> >
>>> > A friend of my older brother, who always seems to know what's what, and
>>> > who manages to do his job as a radiologist, M.D., even when he's
>>> > traveling, seems to need my help for a couple things regarding the PC
>>> > and cell phone.
>>> >
>>> > One of them is the ability to speak and turn it into text, for 1) search
>>> > terms with a web browsr, 2) text for texts, and maybe 3) Other things??
>>> >
>>> > Being able to do these things just by talking makes the world a lot
>>> > better.
>>> >
>>> > But I can't remember.... Is this native Android, or do I have it only
>>> > becauze I installed Gboard?
>>> >
>>> > If this isn't what Gboard provided, then what did Gboard provide?
>>> >
>>> > I don't want him either struggling to do it withougt Gboard if it's
>>> > needed, or installing Gboard for no special reason.
>>>
>>> My Pixel2 has a choice of Gboard, ai.type keyboard or google voice
>>> typing. I downloaded ai.type and use it. Not sure where Gboard came
>>> from, but Google voice typing is native. Gboard claims to be multilingual.
>>
>> AFAICT, contrary to what Wei Lu said, Google Voice Typing *is*
>>standard on Android. At least my Samsung phone (Android 13) does *not*
>>have Gboard (but Samsung Keyboard), but still has 'Google Voice Typing'
>>in its Keyboard list.
>
> Am I correct that one views the Keyboard list by swiping left or right
> the space bar in the keyboard? If not, where is the list.

Settings /System /Lanuages&Input /On-screen keyboard
>
> My situation is diffent. I have a low end Samsung phone from 2019, and
> a moderately low end Xiaomi phone from from 2021.

The pixel2 is from 2017 and uses Android 11.

> I finally figured out how to see if an app is installed, by going to the
> play store and starting to install it, and both have Gobard installed. I
> dont' want to UNinstall it to see what is left -- that would be looking
> for trouble.
>
> The Xiaomi has Google Voice installed, but a) that's not Google Voice
> Typing is it? b) I haven't chosen a phone number. The Samsung does
> not have it installed. ---- There is also Google Voice Search and
> Google Voice Assistent or maybe Search Assistent
>
> Aha, there is also Google Speech Recognition and Synthesis. That sounds
> like the heart of the matter and both phones have that. Does anyone
> just install that? More likely it comes with Gboard and other keyboard
> programs and that's what people install, right?
>
> AFaICT neither has Google Voice Typing, certainly not those words
> anywhere, but for texting the upper right corner of the keyboard has the
> symbol of a microphone, next to Settings gear for the Samsung, next to a
> magnifying glass for Xiaomi. Other functions have a microphone symbol in
> the field where one is to enter text, or in the top corner of the
> switchboard.
>
> Is this what you mean by built-in, or does this appear becuase of Gob
>>
>>> I love ai.type. I only type with my fingers/thumbs when I can't use my
>>> voice.

--
Cheers, Bev
Organized people will never know the sheer joyous ecstasy of finding
something that was believed to have been irretrievably lost.
-- D. Stern

micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on 28 Jan 2024 16:25:50 GMT, Frank Slootweg
> <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote:
>
> >The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 1/27/24 4:46 PM, micky wrote:
> >> > I can't remember.... Is this native Android, or do I have it only
> >> > becauze I installed Gboard?
> >> >
> >> > A friend of my older brother, who always seems to know what's what, and
> >> > who manages to do his job as a radiologist, M.D., even when he's
> >> > traveling, seems to need my help for a couple things regarding the PC
> >> > and cell phone.
> >> >
> >> > One of them is the ability to speak and turn it into text, for 1) search
> >> > terms with a web browsr, 2) text for texts, and maybe 3) Other things??
> >> >
> >> > Being able to do these things just by talking makes the world a lot
> >> > better.
> >> >
> >> > But I can't remember.... Is this native Android, or do I have it only
> >> > becauze I installed Gboard?
> >> >
> >> > If this isn't what Gboard provided, then what did Gboard provide?
> >> >
> >> > I don't want him either struggling to do it withougt Gboard if it's
> >> > needed, or installing Gboard for no special reason.
> >>
> >> My Pixel2 has a choice of Gboard, ai.type keyboard or google voice
> >> typing. I downloaded ai.type and use it. Not sure where Gboard came
> >> from, but Google voice typing is native. Gboard claims to be multilingual.
> >
> > AFAICT, contrary to what Wei Lu said, Google Voice Typing *is*
> >standard on Android. At least my Samsung phone (Android 13) does *not*
> >have Gboard (but Samsung Keyboard), but still has 'Google Voice Typing'
> >in its Keyboard list.
>
> Am I correct that one views the Keyboard list by swiping left or right
> the space bar in the keyboard? If not, where is the list.

In Settings, at least for your Samsung phone, and no, I'm not going to
say where in Settings, just see for yourself. Maybe where it says
"keyboard"? Nah, can't be as simple as that, can it!? (My Settings page
has a search facility, yours probably has as well.)

FWIW, my Samsung phone was bought in August 2020, so not much newer
(might even be introduced in 2019).

> My situation is diffent. I have a low end Samsung phone from 2019, and
> a moderately low end Xiaomi phone from from 2021.
>
> I finally figured out how to see if an app is installed, by going to the
> play store and starting to install it,

Huh!? Why don't you just use the 'Apps' part of Settings to see which
apps are installed!?

> and both have Gobard installed. I
> dont' want to UNinstall it to see what is left -- that would be looking
> for trouble.

[More rambling deleted.]