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* Can a caller know that my phone is on Do Not Disturb?Stan Brown
+* Re: Can a caller know that my phone is on Do Not Disturb?Andrew
|`* Re: Can a caller know that my phone is on Do Not Disturb?micky
| `- Re: Can a caller know that my phone is on Do Not Disturb?Jörg Lorenz
+- Re: Can a caller know that my phone is on Do Not Disturb?AJL
+- Re: Can a caller know that my phone is on Do Not Disturb?VanguardLH
`* Re: Can a caller know that my phone is on Do Not Disturb?Stan Brown
 +- Re: Can a caller know that my phone is on Do Not Disturb?Jörg Lorenz
 `- Re: Can a caller know that my phone is on Do Not Disturb?Andrew

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From: the_stan...@fastmail.fm (Stan Brown)
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Subject: Can a caller know that my phone is on Do Not Disturb?
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 15:28:52 -0700
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 by: Stan Brown - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 22:28 UTC

The New York Times today mentioned that people who call or message an
iPhone that's on DND get a reply telling them it's on DND, but the
article (URL below) didn't say anything either way about Androids. I
don't see anything promising in Settings under Do Not Disturb.

<https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/style/do-not-disturb-phone-
setting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU0.EsXn.FqT98zMMXeK7&smid=url-
share>

The Times has a paywall, but the abopve URL, provided by the Times,
gets you past it for this article.

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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From: and...@spam.net (Andrew)
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Subject: Re: Can a caller know that my phone is on Do Not Disturb?
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 by: Andrew - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 23:12 UTC

"Stan Brown wrote on Wed, 13 Mar 2024 15:28:52 -0700 :

> The New York Times today mentioned that people who call or message an
> iPhone that's on DND get a reply telling them it's on DND, but the
> article (URL below) didn't say anything either way about Androids. I
> don't see anything promising in Settings under Do Not Disturb.
>
> <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/style/do-not-disturb-phone-
> setting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU0.EsXn.FqT98zMMXeK7&smid=url-
> share>
>
> The Times has a paywall, but the abopve URL, provided by the Times,
> gets you past it for this article.

I didn't look at the article as I was curious about the question in the
subject line so I first ran a quick google search to find out the answer.
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=do+callers+know+android+is+on+do+not+disturb+dnd

Here's what this hit said about your exact question:
https://techwiser.com/what-happens-when-your-phone-is-on-do-not-disturb/#Will-Others-Be-Able-to-Tell-if-I-Enable-Do-Not-Disturb-on-My-Phone
Q: Will Others Be Able to Tell if I Enable Do Not Disturb on My Phone
A: No, others will not be able to tell if your phone is in DND mode.
When someone calls you, their call will go to voicemail as usual.
The only time people can tell your phone is on DND is when you
use it while driving because it sends an automatic message.

Hmmm... to me that's not a "no" but more of a "sometimes yes", right?

This article says you can selectively let others know you're on DND.
https://www.guidingtech.com/why-getting-calls-do-not-disturb-on/
Q: How to let people know your phone is on DND?
A: You can share your Focus status in the Messages app and let
others know that your phone is on DND.

It's not useful if an article doesn't know about your specific question
but this article says what happens when someone calls you on DND.
https://gadgetroyale.com/what-does-do-not-disturb-do/
Q: What happens when your phone is on Do Not Disturb and someone calls you?
A: The only thing you as the phone user will experience is that
the call won't ring out, the call will be muted but it will go through.

Aw heck, I'll look at the article now.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/style/do-not-disturb-phone-setting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU0.EsXn.FqT98zMMXeK7&smid=url-share

I see it says what you said it said:
"When the setting is enabled on an iPhone, any would-be texters
see a disclaimer that the person they are trying to contact has
notifications silenced. Beneath that is a tempting offer:
"Notify Anyway." If clicked, the notification will go through
as it normally would"

Maybe best to ask the folks on misc.phone.mobile.iphone that question.

Re: Can a caller know that my phone is on Do Not Disturb?

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From: NONONOmi...@fmguy.com (micky)
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Subject: Re: Can a caller know that my phone is on Do Not Disturb?
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 by: micky - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 23:24 UTC

In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 13 Mar 2024 23:12:50 -0000 (UTC), Andrew
<andrew@spam.net> wrote:

>"Stan Brown wrote on Wed, 13 Mar 2024 15:28:52 -0700 :
>
>> The New York Times today mentioned that people who call or message an
>> iPhone that's on DND get a reply telling them it's on DND, but the
>> article (URL below) didn't say anything either way about Androids. I

Seems to me the best way to answer this is put your phone on DND and
have someone else call you, And vice versa.

>> don't see anything promising in Settings under Do Not Disturb.
>>
>> <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/style/do-not-disturb-phone-
>> setting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU0.EsXn.FqT98zMMXeK7&smid=url-
>> share>
>>
>> The Times has a paywall, but the abopve URL, provided by the Times,
>> gets you past it for this article.
>
>I didn't look at the article as I was curious about the question in the
>subject line so I first ran a quick google search to find out the answer.
>https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=do+callers+know+android+is+on+do+not+disturb+dnd
>
>Here's what this hit said about your exact question:
>https://techwiser.com/what-happens-when-your-phone-is-on-do-not-disturb/#Will-Others-Be-Able-to-Tell-if-I-Enable-Do-Not-Disturb-on-My-Phone
>Q: Will Others Be Able to Tell if I Enable Do Not Disturb on My Phone
>A: No, others will not be able to tell if your phone is in DND mode.
> When someone calls you, their call will go to voicemail as usual.
> The only time people can tell your phone is on DND is when you
> use it while driving because it sends an automatic message.

It does? I've gotten calls when I'm driving. At any rare, this just
means one needs to do 2 self-tests, one when driving and one when
sitting still.

>Hmmm... to me that's not a "no" but more of a "sometimes yes", right?

Right.

>This article says you can selectively let others know you're on DND.
>https://www.guidingtech.com/why-getting-calls-do-not-disturb-on/
>Q: How to let people know your phone is on DND?
>A: You can share your Focus status in the Messages app and let
> others know that your phone is on DND.
>
>It's not useful if an article doesn't know about your specific question
>but this article says what happens when someone calls you on DND.
>https://gadgetroyale.com/what-does-do-not-disturb-do/
>Q: What happens when your phone is on Do Not Disturb and someone calls you?
>A: The only thing you as the phone user will experience is that
> the call won't ring out, the call will be muted but it will go through.
>
>Aw heck, I'll look at the article now.
>https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/style/do-not-disturb-phone-setting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU0.EsXn.FqT98zMMXeK7&smid=url-share
>
>I see it says what you said it said:
> "When the setting is enabled on an iPhone, any would-be texters
> see a disclaimer that the person they are trying to contact has
> notifications silenced. Beneath that is a tempting offer:
> "Notify Anyway." If clicked, the notification will go through
> as it normally would"
>
>Maybe best to ask the folks on misc.phone.mobile.iphone that question.

Ask someone with an iphone to test it personally.

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Subject: Re: Can a caller know that my phone is on Do Not Disturb?
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 by: AJL - Wed, 13 Mar 2024 23:38 UTC

On 3/13/2024 3:28 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
> The New York Times today mentioned that people who call or message an
> iPhone that's on DND get a reply telling them it's on DND, but the
> article (URL below) didn't say anything either way about Androids. I
> don't see anything promising in Settings under Do Not Disturb.

I use DND and that only lets my kids through on my Android Samsung
Galaxy S10+. Everything else goes to Voicemail. There's no way for the
caller to know if I'm using DND or just not answering...

> <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/style/do-not-disturb-phone-
> setting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU0.EsXn.FqT98zMMXeK7&smid=url-
> share>
>
> The Times has a paywall, but the abopve URL, provided by the Times,
> gets you past it for this article.
>

Re: Can a caller know that my phone is on Do Not Disturb?

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 by: VanguardLH - Thu, 14 Mar 2024 00:18 UTC

Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> The New York Times today mentioned that people who call or message an
> iPhone that's on DND get a reply telling them it's on DND, but the
> article (URL below) didn't say anything either way about Androids. I
> don't see anything promising in Settings under Do Not Disturb.
>
> <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/style/do-not-disturb-phone-
> setting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU0.EsXn.FqT98zMMXeK7&smid=url-
> share>
>
> The Times has a paywall, but the abopve URL, provided by the Times,
> gets you past it for this article.

"When the setting is enabled on an iPhone, any would-be texters see a
disclaimer that the person they are trying to contact has notifications
silenced. Beneath that is a tempting offer: “Notify Anyway.” If clicked,
the notification will go through as it normally would, but the message
seems clear enough: Don’t expect an answer, at least not right away."

Well, that's Apple doing it there way, not yours. The phone would have
to send yet another text back to the sender. Not everyone has unlimited
quotas, but Apple doesn't care. On my Android 8, and in DND mode,
callers go to my carrier's voicemail service, the same as if I don't
answer their call. The caller hears ringing, and then gets dumped into
voicemail whether DND is on or not. DND just mutes the noise for the
call. Text just sit there waiting for when I chhose to view them, but
they don't make any noise on arrival. My phone still get the texts, but
my phone doesn't make noise on notification.

Would be easy to test how DND works on your phone. Enable DND on your
phone, and call yourself from a different phone number, and text your
smartphone. See what happens instead of others telling you how their
phone works in DND mode.

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 by: Jörg Lorenz - Thu, 14 Mar 2024 00:25 UTC

On 14.03.24 00:24, micky wrote:
> In comp.mobile.android, on Wed, 13 Mar 2024 23:12:50 -0000 (UTC), Andrew
> <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
>> I see it says what you said it said:
>> "When the setting is enabled on an iPhone, any would-be texters
>> see a disclaimer that the person they are trying to contact has
>> notifications silenced. Beneath that is a tempting offer:
>> "Notify Anyway." If clicked, the notification will go through
>> as it normally would"
>>
>> Maybe best to ask the folks on misc.phone.mobile.iphone that question.
>
> Ask someone with an iphone to test it personally.

Works only iOS to iOS (iMessage) AFAIK.

--
"Mille viae ducunt hominem per saecula Romam." (Alanus ab Insulis 1120-1202)

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From: the_stan...@fastmail.fm (Stan Brown)
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Subject: Re: Can a caller know that my phone is on Do Not Disturb?
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2024 21:44:18 -0700
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 by: Stan Brown - Thu, 14 Mar 2024 04:44 UTC

On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 15:28:52 -0700, Stan Brown wrote:
>
> The New York Times today mentioned that people who call or message an
> iPhone that's on DND get a reply telling them it's on DND, but the
> article (URL below) didn't say anything either way about Androids. I
> don't see anything promising in Settings under Do Not Disturb.
>
> <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/style/do-not-disturb-phone-
> setting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU0.EsXn.FqT98zMMXeK7&smid=url-
> share>
>
> The Times has a paywall, but the above URL, provided by the Times,
> gets you past it for this article.

Thanks for the responses. Looks like a caller can't tell whether my
Android phone is on DND or just not answering. Presumably DND shifts
them to voicemail without delay, so that might give them a clue,
though they'd experience the same thing if I was prompt about tapping
Reject.

--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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 by: Jörg Lorenz - Thu, 14 Mar 2024 06:57 UTC

Am 14.03.24 um 05:44 schrieb Stan Brown:
> On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 15:28:52 -0700, Stan Brown wrote:
>>
>> The New York Times today mentioned that people who call or message an
>> iPhone that's on DND get a reply telling them it's on DND, but the
>> article (URL below) didn't say anything either way about Androids. I
>> don't see anything promising in Settings under Do Not Disturb.
>>
>> <https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/13/style/do-not-disturb-phone-
>> setting.html?unlocked_article_code=1.cU0.EsXn.FqT98zMMXeK7&smid=url-
>> share>
>>
>> The Times has a paywall, but the above URL, provided by the Times,
>> gets you past it for this article.
>
> Thanks for the responses. Looks like a caller can't tell whether my
> Android phone is on DND or just not answering. Presumably DND shifts
> them to voicemail without delay, so that might give them a clue,
> though they'd experience the same thing if I was prompt about tapping
> Reject.

That is correct. But you can silence your Android by putting it face
down on the table. Ideal for company or private meetings. As soon as you
pick it up it rings again on incoming calls and notifications.

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Stan Brown wrote on Wed, 13 Mar 2024 21:44:18 -0700 :

> Presumably DND shifts
> them to voicemail without delay, so that might give them a clue

Are you sure about that?

I don't know anything about DND except what I looked up for you prior, but
from what I read, it acts "as if it was ringing" and only after it stopped
ringing, does it go to voice mail (if that's how you set it up to do).

If that's the case, the only thing is you never hear (or see?) the rings.

But from the caller's perspective, it's as if it rang the requisite five or
six times (or whatever) and you weren't able to answer it in that time.

At least that's the gist of what I gleaned from the references I cited.

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