Frank Slootweg wrote on 14 Mar 2024 15:15:08 GMT :

> Face it, as AJL hints at, that information is just on a *different*
> server - than Samsung's, Google's, etc. ad infinitum - over which you
> *also* have *absolutely no* control.

I am nothing but logical, Frank. Hence I agree with your main premise.
Only a fool disagrees with a sensible logical premise. And I'm no fool.

Hence, you are correct. But you extended it too much.
As did AJL.

What AJL said, in essence, was
A. They already got him.
B. So he just gave up.
C. *And in doing so, he make it WORSE by putting it on his phone*!

That's OK for some people like you and for AJL.
But that's not OK for me.

I don't give up - I just fight back differently.
You give up. AJL gives up. I fight back differently.

Your mistake isn't in your initial logic.
It's in extending that initial logic to your cell phone.

Don't do that.
Specifically, Don't extend the threat to your vulnerable phone!

1. Your data that the bank holds is definitely subject to hacks
2. But they pay people a lot of money to mitigate that risk
3. Your cell phone has NONE of those IT people mitigating risk
(All your cell phone has for an IT person, is little ole' you.)

If you think I'm not aware of all that, then it's you who is dreaming.

There's nothing wrong with your logic at the top level, since EVERY
database WILL (likely) be hacked (eventually) but what's wrong with your
argument is EXTENDING it naively to the smart phone.

Which has no IT department defending it.

Your argument is essentially only 1/2 of mine, which is:
A. You say every database will (likely) be hacked (which I agree),
B. And then (because of that) you extend it to the phone (which I don't).

You're thinking correctly - but you're extending too far.
I don't put anything on the phone that I can't easily lose.
1. No accounts.
2. No login apps (e.g., banks, credit cards, nothing)
3. No way of paying for anything (accidental payment is disabled)
4. No way of logging into anything automatically

(Of course, I have web browsers, which "can" log into stuff;
but I don't log into anything on the phone that I can think of.)

Hell, I don't even have a PIN on my phone (I don't live in a slum).
I keep the phone as a private citadel.
Sort of like how landline telephones were in the olden days.

The only thing they know is the stuff I can't change.
a. the phone number, make/model, carrier, IMEI, etc.
b. the IP address when on cellular
c. I do change my broadcasts to NOT shout out my hidden SSIDs
etc.

I consciously feed everything bogus data if it asks for such things.

It's why (almost) NOBODY gets my SSN (not even the state I live in when I
signed up for my drivers license from another state - where I said I never
had a drivers license and so I had to start the entire process anew, like a
17 year old kid would - simply because I wanted to give them a bogus SSN).

The only people who get "correct" ID information are people who
a) will check it (e.g., passport information), or,
b) people who need it (e.g., my federal taxes), or,
c) people who need it by law (e.g., police, fire, etc.).

(Even 911 location though is disabled.)

I've been privacy aware for a long time, which is why I maintain separate
email accounts for people who ask but who don't need it, and even then,
since they're protonmail, I always enter via a tor browser every time.

Anyway, the number of privacy things I do on a phone will number probably
in the scores to nearly a hundred (or whatever it is), which is about 99
more things than you or AJL can comprehend so it's no use explaining to
you.

In summary, you are correct in overall logic but wrong in implementation.
1. You are completely correct that data someone else holds is hackable.
2. But you went too far as to give up when it comes to protecting the phone

Your mistake isn't in the logic but in the implementation.

Frank Slootweg wrote on 14 Mar 2024 15:39:14 GMT :

>> Gave up? No. I do conceal my ID when possible and/or necessary. And I
>> noticed that you conveniently avoided commenting on your un-private
>> online profile (CC, doctor, bank, phone, etc etc.). Understood.
>
> Yep. The old trick of ignoring what you can't counter. How pathetic.

I addressed all his issues, Frank, so you're just wrong.

And what's "pathetic" is the (paraphrased) claim that AJL's medical data is
as important as AJL's Samsung app to turn the WI-Fi off - and worse -
they're so equal in AJL's mindset that he feels he MUST store all his
medical data on his phone.

That is essentially AJL's entire argument - which I find absurd.

AJL then extended that same argument to his credit card and then to his
bank accounts - but the argument that they're as important as a silly
Samsung app that isn't even needed is - is only 1/3rd of what's absurd.

The other 1/3 which is absurd is that AJL just gave up because he considers
all data of equal importance, and the last 1/3rd is as a result, AJL feels
he MUST put all his data on his smartphone (which has no IT department).

That is AJL's argument, paraphrased in a nutshell - which - is pathetic.
But you used the word "pathetic" - whereas I simply claim it's "absurd".

Frank Slootweg wrote on 14 Mar 2024 15:30:29 GMT :

> But the simplest way is probably: On the home or app screen, swipe
> down from the top till you get the panel with the function buttons such
> as Sound, Airplane mode, Location, etc.. Swipe that panel to the left
> several times, till you see the 'Wi-Fi Calling'. Tap it to toggle it
> off.

I'll agree with anyone who states a logical sensible viewpoint.

It's certainly the simplest, but the most efficient way (IMHO) is to create
a one-tap shortcut and put it into your wi-fi folder for quick easy use.

Wi-Fi Calling
com.sec.unifiedwfc/com.sec.unifiedwfc.LaunchUnifiedActivity

I doubt more than Andy Burns and a couple of others even understands what I
just said (do you, Frank?) where the point I agree with you on is that a
Samsung Account and Samsung app is NOT needed to bring up the Wi-Fi calling
on/off switch activity.

If there's something useful in a Samsung Account, I haven't found it yet
(that I can't get elsewhere without that Samsung Account on my phone.)

Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg wrote on 14 Mar 2024 15:15:08 GMT :
>
> > Face it, as AJL hints at, that information is just on a *different*
> > server - than Samsung's, Google's, etc. ad infinitum - over which you
> > *also* have *absolutely no* control.
>
> I am nothing but logical, Frank. Hence I agree with your main premise.
> Only a fool disagrees with a sensible logical premise. And I'm no fool.

You dishonestly, 'conveniently' snip, without comment, you lose. End
of story.

As we've shown, you're anything *but* logical. And if you feel you
have to say "And I'm no fool.", ...

[More of the usual rants, footstamping, whingeing, etc. deleted.]

Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> writes:

> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
> [...]
>
>> Ah, perhaps that is the answer to my question. Perhaps I created an
>> account to access the Samsung store.
>
> You probably were asked to create the Samsung Account when you set
> up the phone.

I didn't do that, I did it some time later. I was troubleshooting
something but I can't remember what.

>
> In my notes, it says that during setup there was a prompt to login
> to my Samsung Account. That prompt probably also had a link to create
> an account. (I already had a Samsung Account, because I bought the
> phone with a cashback.)
>
>> I am using the Samsung phone app
>> because it is the only way to switch on wifi calling (that I know
>> about). I guess without a Samsung account, Samsung apps won't ever be
>> updated.
>
> As Another Poster (TM) :-) said, you can switch off Wi-Fi calling in
> Settings.

Not in my settings. It may depend on the model. But it is in the
settings for the Samsung phone app.

>
> But the simplest way is probably: On the home or app screen, swipe
> down from the top till you get the panel with the function buttons
> such as Sound, Airplane mode, Location, etc.. Swipe that panel to the
> left several times, till you see the 'Wi-Fi Calling'. Tap it to toggle
> it off.

Yes I forgot about that. I found it later after wasting much time trying
to figure out why O2 wouldn't use wifi calling. It turned out in the end
that O2 doesn't allow it on PAYG, only on pay monthly. So it is a
policy.

As for the Samsung account, I think what I need to do is remove all the
apps which are installed from the Samsung store and re-install them from
Google, then delete the Samsung account again. But at the moment it is
not notifying me so I haven't done anything.

I think it is strange that Samsung's Internet Browser is even in the
google store.

Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> writes:
[...]

> >> I am using the Samsung phone app
> >> because it is the only way to switch on wifi calling (that I know
> >> about). I guess without a Samsung account, Samsung apps won't ever be
> >> updated.
> >
> > As Another Poster (TM) :-) said, you can switch off Wi-Fi calling in
> > Settings.
>
> Not in my settings. It may depend on the model. But it is in the
> settings for the Samsung phone app.

You're correct, I couldn't find it in Settings either. So apparently
Another Poster (TM) was wrong. No surprise there, he's been wrong
before.

[...]

> I think it is strange that Samsung's Internet Browser is even in the
> google store.

Because people might want to put it on their non-Samsung phones (which
won't have the (Samsung) Galaxy Store).

Frank Slootweg wrote on 14 Mar 2024 18:27:48 GMT :

> You dishonestly, 'conveniently' snip, without comment, you lose.

Now you're just trolling, Frank.

You, of all people, Frank, know RFC1855 since you ran a server yourself,
that snipping is proper & good netiquette is to quote sparingly.

*You quote only that which you're responding to.*

HINT: There is no rule, which you seem to think exists, that says
you have to quote and respond to the ENTIRE message, Frank.'

DOUBLEHINT: I ignored at first that AJL's argument required him to
treat Doctor records EXACTLY the same as Wi-Fi apps.

TRIPLEHINT: When AJL objected, I responded DIRECTLY to his objections.

QUADRUPLEHINT:
<https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt>
"quote only relevant parts"
"Content of a follow-up post should exceed quoted content."

<https://www.learnenglish.de/improveenglish/netiquette.html>
"quote only what is necessary (delete the rest)"

<https://blogs.onlineeducation.touro.edu/15-rules-netiquette-online-discussion-boards/>
"quote just a few key lines from their post so that others wont
have to go back and figure out which post you�re referring to."

Richmond wrote on Thu, 14 Mar 2024 19:32:04 +0000 :

> I think it is strange that Samsung's Internet Browser is even in the
> google store.

My Samsung came with a 'default' browser which might have been the Samsung
Internet browser you speak of, but what I did was uninstall it (and Chrome)
on my non-rootable Galaxy and then I installed what I consider better
browsers (not that I do much web browsing on a phone in the first place,
but I do have shortcuts set up to get online traffic without Google Maps).

*Ungoogled Chromium*
<https://uc.droidware.info/>

*Bromite*
<https://www.bromite.org/>

And others...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.duckduckgo.mobile.android
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.torproject.torbrowser
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.firefox
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ghostery.android.ghostery

Andrew <andrew@spam.net> writes:

> Richmond wrote on Thu, 14 Mar 2024 19:32:04 +0000 :
>
>> I think it is strange that Samsung's Internet Browser is even in the
>> google store.
>
> My Samsung came with a 'default' browser which might have been the Samsung
> Internet browser you speak of, but what I did was uninstall it (and Chrome)
> on my non-rootable Galaxy and then I installed what I consider better
> browsers (not that I do much web browsing on a phone in the first place,
> but I do have shortcuts set up to get online traffic without Google Maps).
>
> *Ungoogled Chromium*
> <https://uc.droidware.info/>
>
> *Bromite*
> <https://www.bromite.org/>
>
> And others...
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.duckduckgo.mobile.android
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.torproject.torbrowser
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.mozilla.firefox
> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ghostery.android.ghostery

I mostly use Firefox Focus with Javascript disabled.

I haven't found any way to create the shortcuts you mention, but I found
notification history in the settings, but it only goes back 24 hours so
I have to wait for the Samsung account to notify me again.

On 3/14/24 2:08 PM, Richmond wrote:

>I mostly use Firefox Focus with Javascript disabled.

If you use the Samsung browser you can disable both Javascript AND all
cookies. Likewise with the Dolphin browser.

Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> writes:

> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
>> Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> writes: [...]
>
>> >> I am using the Samsung phone
>> >> app because it is the only way to switch on wifi calling (that I
>> >> know about). I guess without a Samsung account, Samsung apps won't
>> >> ever be updated.
>> >
>> > As Another Poster (TM) :-) said, you can switch off Wi-Fi calling
>> > in Settings.
>>
>> Not in my settings. It may depend on the model. But it is in the
>> settings for the Samsung phone app.
>
> You're correct, I couldn't find it in Settings either. So apparently
> Another Poster (TM) was wrong. No surprise there, he's been wrong
> before.
>
> [...]
>
>> I think it is strange that Samsung's Internet Browser is even in the
>> google store.
>
> Because people might want to put it on their non-Samsung phones
> (which won't have the (Samsung) Galaxy Store).

When I search for Google Chrome in the Samsung store it finds Samsung
Internet.

When I press and hold the samsung phone app, select info, scroll down,
view in app store, I get a message saying "this content isn't compatible
with your phones operating system". So where did it come from? How does
it get updated?

On 3/14/24 2:46 PM, Richmond wrote:

>When I search for Google Chrome in the Samsung store it finds Samsung
>Internet.

In my tablet's Samsung store I see 8 browsers to choose from. But you're
right, no Chrome browser. Probably a business decision. There's no Chrome
browser in the Amazon Appstore either...

AJL <noemail@none.com> writes:

> On 3/14/24 2:08 PM, Richmond wrote:
>
>>I mostly use Firefox Focus with Javascript disabled.
>
> If you use the Samsung browser you can disable both Javascript AND all
> cookies. Likewise with the Dolphin browser.

Did you read the privacy policy? "We care about your privacy. We
transfer data to up to 277 third party providers..." :?

On 3/14/24 3:03 PM, Richmond wrote:
>AJL <noemail@none.com> writes:
>
>> On 3/14/24 2:08 PM, Richmond wrote:
>>
>>>I mostly use Firefox Focus with Javascript disabled.
>>
>> If you use the Samsung browser you can disable both Javascript AND all
>> cookies. Likewise with the Dolphin browser.
>
>Did you read the privacy policy? "We care about your privacy. We
>transfer data to up to 277 third party providers..." :?

Are you Arlen in disguise? Sorry, an inside joke. All I use the Samsung
browser for is news reading. I leave the Javascript and cookies off to kill
the pop-ups and other junk but leave the text and most still photos. If
some alien computers are spying on what fake name AJL is reading it really
doesn't bother me too much. But then AJL's paranoia level is pretty much
nonexistant...

AJL <noemail@none.com> writes:

> On 3/14/24 3:03 PM, Richmond wrote:
>>AJL <noemail@none.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 3/14/24 2:08 PM, Richmond wrote:
>>>
>>>>I mostly use Firefox Focus with Javascript disabled.
>>>
>>> If you use the Samsung browser you can disable both Javascript AND
>>> all cookies. Likewise with the Dolphin browser.
>>
>>Did you read the privacy policy? "We care about your privacy. We
>>transfer data to up to 277 third party providers..." :?
>
> Are you Arlen in disguise? Sorry, an inside joke. All I use the
> Samsung browser for is news reading. I leave the Javascript and
> cookies off to kill the pop-ups and other junk but leave the text and
> most still photos. If some alien computers are spying on what fake
> name AJL is reading it really doesn't bother me too much. But then
> AJL's paranoia level is pretty much nonexistant...

Not quite non existent if you are using a fake name. Did you walk into a
shop and pay cash for a second hand phone? buy your SIM card for 99p in
a supermarket?

Frank Slootweg wrote on 14 Mar 2024 20:06:51 GMT :

> You're correct, I couldn't find it in Settings either. So apparently
> Another Poster (TM) was wrong. No surprise there, he's been wrong
> before.

The fact you've never once in your entire life found me wrong, Frank, and
yet you're so obviously _desperate_ to do so, is a problem that you have.

It's not my problem that you are always so ignorant, Frank.
It's your problem.

You're so _desperate_ to claim I'm wrong that you fabricate it.
And each time I have waste my energy always *Proving YOU Wrong* Frank.

FACT:
The option to turn on (or off) Wi-Fi calling is on my Samsung phone.
<https://i.postimg.cc/4dgCbg1t/wificalling01.jpg>

And there is no Samsung Account (or any account) set up on my phone.
<https://i.postimg.cc/RhxFjhz0/manage-accounts.jpg>

Frank: I don't mind that you hate yourself for constantly being wrong, but
please don't say I'm wrong when it's you who is wrong on facts. Not me.

I'm correct on my facts not because I'm a lot smarter than you are Frank.
No. I'm correct because I don't say things that I don't know to be facts.

Apologies would be what you should do; but I don't expect you to ever act
like a decent adult, Frank. So I'll expect your apology (but you're not man
enough to give it so I simply expect you to prove to be a child, Frank).

Andrew <andrew@spam.net> writes:

> FACT:
> The option to turn on (or off) Wi-Fi calling is on my Samsung phone.
> <https://i.postimg.cc/4dgCbg1t/wificalling01.jpg>
>

It's on my phone now too. But it wasn't there before. Maybe it appeared
when it upgraded to android 14 last month.

Richmond wrote on Thu, 14 Mar 2024 21:08:52 +0000 :

> I haven't found any way to create the shortcuts you mention

There are many tutorials on this newsgroup which explain every single step
in the process of creating one-tap shortcuts to all public activities
and, in this case, to URL/URI shortcuts for any web page you want to open.

All you do is use an intelligent browser that allows shortcut creation.
a. You open that browser to the web page (e.g., Google Maps Traffic)
b. You tap the GUI to make it into a desktop shortcut
c. You then move that shortcut to your maps folder.

A shortcut everyone should put on every phone in the house, for example, is
a shortcut to the nearest hospital, or to the closest first-aid station.

Another shortcut I use is a shortcut to people's homes that I visit
sporadically - which Frank has discussed in detail in the past on this
newsgroup - where you can use the Google Maps app to create that shortcut.

For example, I have a Google Maps shortcut to "Home" which I press anytime
I'm anywhere & I want to figure out how to get home from there in one tap.

Shortcuts to web pages are trivial to make.
a. Any good web browser allows you to make them
b. Any good app (like Google Maps) allows you to make them
c. There are good apps which make them out of nothing more than a URL.

No sense in me repeating what has already been explained in great detail.
You can even make a shortcut to this Android web archive on the net.
https://i.postimg.cc/fTppT16Q/newsgroup01.jpg

Just run a search for "one tap shortcuts" in the Android newsgroup archive.
<http://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android>

Website Shortcut, by Deltac Development (free, adfree, gsffree, rated 4.3)
<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.deltacdev.websiteshortcut>

Andrew <andrew@spam.net> writes:

> Richmond wrote on Thu, 14 Mar 2024 21:08:52 +0000 :
>
>> I haven't found any way to create the shortcuts you mention
>
> There are many tutorials on this newsgroup which explain every single step
> in the process of creating one-tap shortcuts to all public activities
> and, in this case, to URL/URI shortcuts for any web page you want to open.
>
> All you do is use an intelligent browser that allows shortcut creation.
> a. You open that browser to the web page (e.g., Google Maps Traffic)
> b. You tap the GUI to make it into a desktop shortcut
> c. You then move that shortcut to your maps folder.
>
> A shortcut everyone should put on every phone in the house, for example, is
> a shortcut to the nearest hospital, or to the closest first-aid station.
>
> Another shortcut I use is a shortcut to people's homes that I visit
> sporadically - which Frank has discussed in detail in the past on this
> newsgroup - where you can use the Google Maps app to create that shortcut.
>
> For example, I have a Google Maps shortcut to "Home" which I press anytime
> I'm anywhere & I want to figure out how to get home from there in one tap.
>
> Shortcuts to web pages are trivial to make.
> a. Any good web browser allows you to make them
> b. Any good app (like Google Maps) allows you to make them
> c. There are good apps which make them out of nothing more than a URL.
>
> No sense in me repeating what has already been explained in great detail.
> You can even make a shortcut to this Android web archive on the net.
> https://i.postimg.cc/fTppT16Q/newsgroup01.jpg
>
> Just run a search for "one tap shortcuts" in the Android newsgroup archive.
> <http://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android>
>
> Website Shortcut, by Deltac Development (free, adfree, gsffree, rated 4.3)
> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.deltacdev.websiteshortcut>

I meant the shortcut to the notifications history. I already have
shortcuts to google maps etc.

Richmond wrote on Thu, 14 Mar 2024 23:59:52 +0000 :

>> FACT:
>> The option to turn on (or off) Wi-Fi calling is on my Samsung phone.
>> <https://i.postimg.cc/4dgCbg1t/wificalling01.jpg>
>>
>
> It's on my phone now too. But it wasn't there before. Maybe it appeared
> when it upgraded to android 14 last month.

Thanks for letting us know, as the fact is that it's on my phone, but I
can't vouch for it being on any other phone than mine alone.

However...

I didn't do anything special to get it on my phone. It was just there.
So I would think it's on anyone's phone whose situation is similar to mine.

For me, that's Samsung, Android 13, T-Mobile USA.

If it's not on someone else's phone, that doesn't mean I was wrong.
It just means what's on my phone isn't on their phone.
--
Tell that to Frank please.
As Frank doesn't understand that sensible logic.

AJL wrote on Thu, 14 Mar 2024 21:59:32 -0000 (UTC) :

>>When I search for Google Chrome in the Samsung store it finds Samsung
>>Internet.
>
> In my tablet's Samsung store I see 8 browsers to choose from. But you're
> right, no Chrome browser. Probably a business decision. There's no Chrome
> browser in the Amazon Appstore either...

I don't have an Amazon tablet but a search says you can install Chrome.
<https://metager.org/meta/meta.ger3?eingabe=chrome%20browser%20amazon%20store>

Some of the hits...
https://youtu.be/bSRosZb9XiQ
https://www.alphr.com/chrome-kindle-fire/
https://www.technipages.com/amazon-fire-how-to-install-google-chrome-via-apk-file/

Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:

> Andrew <andrew@spam.net> writes:
>
>> Richmond wrote on Thu, 14 Mar 2024 21:08:52 +0000 :
>>
>>> I haven't found any way to create the shortcuts you mention
>>
>> There are many tutorials on this newsgroup which explain every single step
>> in the process of creating one-tap shortcuts to all public activities
>> and, in this case, to URL/URI shortcuts for any web page you want to open.
>>
>> All you do is use an intelligent browser that allows shortcut creation.
>> a. You open that browser to the web page (e.g., Google Maps Traffic)
>> b. You tap the GUI to make it into a desktop shortcut
>> c. You then move that shortcut to your maps folder.
>>
>> A shortcut everyone should put on every phone in the house, for example, is
>> a shortcut to the nearest hospital, or to the closest first-aid station.
>>
>> Another shortcut I use is a shortcut to people's homes that I visit
>> sporadically - which Frank has discussed in detail in the past on this
>> newsgroup - where you can use the Google Maps app to create that shortcut.
>>
>> For example, I have a Google Maps shortcut to "Home" which I press anytime
>> I'm anywhere & I want to figure out how to get home from there in one tap.
>>
>> Shortcuts to web pages are trivial to make.
>> a. Any good web browser allows you to make them
>> b. Any good app (like Google Maps) allows you to make them
>> c. There are good apps which make them out of nothing more than a URL.
>>
>> No sense in me repeating what has already been explained in great detail.
>> You can even make a shortcut to this Android web archive on the net.
>> https://i.postimg.cc/fTppT16Q/newsgroup01.jpg
>>
>> Just run a search for "one tap shortcuts" in the Android newsgroup archive.
>> <http://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android>
>>
>> Website Shortcut, by Deltac Development (free, adfree, gsffree, rated 4.3)
>> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.deltacdev.websiteshortcut>
>
> I meant the shortcut to the notifications history. I already have
> shortcuts to google maps etc.

I found this:

https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com/mQa9oT8L/tutorial-how-to-make-one-tap-shortcuts-to-hidden-android-activies-which-have-no-gui-to-get-to-them

On 3/14/24 4:18 PM, Richmond wrote:
>AJL <noemail@none.com> writes:
>
>> On 3/14/24 3:03 PM, Richmond wrote:
>>>AJL <noemail@none.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 3/14/24 2:08 PM, Richmond wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I mostly use Firefox Focus with Javascript disabled.
>>>>
>>>> If you use the Samsung browser you can disable both Javascript AND
>>>> all cookies. Likewise with the Dolphin browser.
>>>
>>>Did you read the privacy policy? "We care about your privacy. We
>>>transfer data to up to 277 third party providers..." :?
>>
>> Are you Arlen in disguise? Sorry, an inside joke. All I use the
>> Samsung browser for is news reading. I leave the Javascript and
>> cookies off to kill the pop-ups and other junk but leave the text and
>> most still photos. If some alien computers are spying on what fake
>> name AJL is reading it really doesn't bother me too much. But then
>> AJL's paranoia level is pretty much nonexistant...
>
>Not quite non existent if you are using a fake name. Did you walk into a
>shop and pay cash for a second hand phone? buy your SIM card for 99p in
>a supermarket?

I'm not using a phone. I use this tablet for news reading. But even if I
did, do you really think a browser knows and reports my sim?? Yup, you're
either Arlen or Maryana for sure. I can tell by the paranoia level.
Confess... ;)

On 3/14/24 5:08 PM, Andrew wrote:
>AJL wrote on Thu, 14 Mar 2024 21:59:32 -0000 (UTC) :
>
>>>When I search for Google Chrome in the Samsung store it finds Samsung
>>>Internet.
>>
>> In my tablet's Samsung store I see 8 browsers to choose from. But you're
>> right, no Chrome browser. Probably a business decision. There's no Chrome
>> browser in the Amazon Appstore either...
>
>I don't have an Amazon tablet but a search says you can install Chrome.
><https://metager.org/meta/meta.ger3?eingabe=chrome%20browser%20amazon%20store>
>
>Some of the hits...
> https://youtu.be/bSRosZb9XiQ
> https://www.alphr.com/chrome-kindle-fire/
> https://www.technipages.com/amazon-fire-how-to-install-google-chrome-via-apk-file/

I already have Chrome on all my Amazon tablets. All my Amazon tablets are
signed in to my Google account and have the same Google apps found on most
Android devices. I explained how to install Google on an Amazon tablet just
a few posts back. Guess you missed it...

Richmond wrote on Fri, 15 Mar 2024 00:11:07 +0000 :

> I found this:
>
> https://comp.mobile.android.narkive.com/mQa9oT8L/tutorial-how-to-make-one-tap-shortcuts-to-hidden-android-activies-which-have-no-gui-to-get-to-them

Yup. That's the hardest way to do it though, as that was written to find
the hardest-to-make shortcuts, which are to activities that are hidden.

But kudos to you for running the search, which is one thing 99 out of 100
people on this newsgroup are allergic to doing. Most never once search.

Everything you want to do in this thread, I've done, and I've written a
tutorial already to help you do it. It took me many hours to learn about
and then write up what will take you only a few minutes to follow the
tutorial to do it.

You can do it the way that is described in that tutorial,
but that's the hard way (for the hardest to make one-tap shortcuts).

There are much easier ways for activities which are NOT hidden.
The activities I pointed out to you for Notification are NOT hidden.

The Notification log brings up this Android activity in my shortcut.
com.android.settings/com.android.settings.Settings$NotificationStationActivity

The Notification history brings up this Android activity in my shortcut.
com.android.settings/com.android.settings.notification.history.NotificationHistoryActivity

See this screenshot I just made for you which shows both of those
Notification shortcuts I made when I wrote the tutorials posted here.
<https://i.postimg.cc/6Q5W7QR8/onetapnotificationshortcuts.jpg>

See the two notification shortcuts in my one-tap shortcuts folder?

One goes to "Notification history" & the other to "Notification logs".
(Don't ask me why there are 2 public activities for almost the same thing.)

It's trivial to create one-tap shortcuts to any public activity.
(the hidden ones are the hard ones but these aren't hidden)

Run the search for "shortcuts" and maybe "tutorial" and you'll see them.
There's nothing more I can tell you that isn't in those tutorials already.

Here are more screenshots you'll find in the multiple tutorials.
<https://i.postimg.cc/KzrX0Kdw/shortcut01.jpg> Custom Shortcut icons
<https://i.postimg.cc/RFs4CPxv/shortcut02.jpg> Creating URL Shortcuts
<https://i.postimg.cc/J4WzDQKc/shortcut03.jpg> Creating FOLDER Shortcuts
<https://i.postimg.cc/MKmPDnKC/shortcut04.jpg> Editing Shortcut icons
<https://i.postimg.cc/13RWYy8f/shortcut05.jpg> Choosing custom icons
<https://i.postimg.cc/N0SpMTpH/shortcut06.jpg> Squaring the custom icon
<https://i.postimg.cc/DybJkMNF/shortcut07.jpg> Finding icons to extract
<https://i.postimg.cc/fRn3wv4d/shortcut08.jpg> Extracting icons to PNG
<https://i.postimg.cc/GhQcYjVV/shortcut09.jpg> Net icon, before & after
<https://i.postimg.cc/43KZDRyR/shortcut10.jpg> Copy net icon to Android
<https://i.postimg.cc/JzFCcYq6/shortcut11.jpg> Select & edit custom icon
<https://i.postimg.cc/c4brT9qq/shortcut12.jpg> Custom screenshot icon
<https://i.postimg.cc/50b0jDzz/shortcut13.jpg> Set custom icon on Android
<https://i.postimg.cc/qqYQXB7Y/shortcut14.jpg> Sample custom Shortcuts
<https://i.postimg.cc/qRqQv6wb/shortcut15.jpg> Open phone to the keypad
<https://i.postimg.cc/KzWfkcsZ/shortcut16.jpg> Open to ANY app Activity
<https://i.postimg.cc/9z5Bb8hK/shortcut17.jpg> Find all hidden Activities
<https://i.postimg.cc/W13874D0/shortcut18.jpg> Set opening tab yourself
<https://i.postimg.cc/jqw08DT4/shortcut19.jpg> Avoid all Google Activities
<https://i.postimg.cc/Z5L193P4/shortcut20.jpg> Determine # of Activities
<https://i.postimg.cc/XJrhDzRY/shortcut21.jpg> Open app to a page you want
<https://i.postimg.cc/QC5zjWxL/shortcut22.jpg> Disable Google Activities
<https://i.postimg.cc/SQz36HLZ/shortcut23.jpg> Elevate to homescreen
<https://i.postimg.cc/c4yjXTXd/shortcut24.jpg> Create custom Shortcuts
<https://i.postimg.cc/KvPWVLHB/shortcut25.jpg> Add Shortcuts to homescreen
<https://i.postimg.cc/P5d7kxgc/shortcut26.jpg> Much Shortcut functionality
<https://i.postimg.cc/qB1t432f/shortcut27.jpg> Access any app Activity

What I do is make one-tap shortcuts to any activity I do more than once.
This, for example, resets a critical Google Location privacy setting.
<https://i.postimg.cc/v8CS9SvY/precise-shortcut01.jpg> Privacy shortcuts

And here is a shortcut to the roaming activities to make it easy to get to.
<https://i.postimg.cc/yx1yKMTJ/roaming-shortcut.jpg> roaming shortcut

And here is how to make a Google Maps shortcut to your Home (or anywhere).
https://i.postimg.cc/5NVLS0Dv/shortcut-home.jpg

Here are traffic URL shortcuts to various traffic & construction reports.
<https://i.postimg.cc/DyBSKWC6/shortcut-url-01.jpg> traffic URL shortcuts

And here's a shortcut to the high-contrast font setting on Android.
<https://i.postimg.cc/Dzys8fTr/contrast01.jpg> high contrast font shortcut
<https://i.postimg.cc/BZRZ8Ftc/contrast02.jpg> high contrast font shortcut

And here is a shortcut to make the screen zoom activity a single tap away.
<https://i.postimg.cc/Xv6LbXDH/screenzoom.jpg> screenzoom shortcut

And here are shortcuts to easily get to the ad-privacy switches that
Google loves to move around and to hide five taps deep in the GUI.
<https://i.postimg.cc/KvBw2tYT/adprivacyshortcuts01.jpg> Ad privacy
switches
<https://i.postimg.cc/DZ0Pw3dD/adprivacyshortcuts02.jpg> One-tap shortcuts
<https://i.postimg.cc/xT0Q60YM/adprivacyshortcuts03.jpg> adb delete api
<https://i.postimg.cc/4dsD35Wq/adprivacyshortcuts04.jpg> New GUI is gone!

And here are shortcuts to all sorts of Wi-Fi specialized hidden options.
<https://i.postimg.cc/P5Kb99jy/wificall01.jpg> Roaming & Network Settings
<https://i.postimg.cc/xTDPzL5v/wificall02.jpg> Wi-Fi Calling Priorities
<https://i.postimg.cc/g0TVkhr6/wificall03.jpg> Wi-Fi Developer options
<https://i.postimg.cc/8zN8J7CK/wificall04.jpg> Intelligent Wi-Fi settings

And if you care about being pretty, here are my many icons that I make.
<https://i.postimg.cc/pLLD28Ny/icon01.jpg> Android changes DEFAULT icons
<https://i.postimg.cc/HLJXMgkg/icon02.jpg> Edit default Shortcut icons
<https://i.postimg.cc/kG72T3qD/icon03.jpg> Change the name and/or icon
<https://i.postimg.cc/zvkgND0n/icon04.jpg> iOS is crippled & can't do this
<https://i.postimg.cc/Z5s60RZH/icon05.jpg> Android gives you full control

Pretty much, almost anything that takes more than one button press can
be made into a one-tap shortcut if you can find the unique name of the
public activity (which is the hardest part). Everything else is easy.