On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 9:28:15 PM UTC-8, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 13:38:28 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >https://greatreject.org/laboratories-cant-find-covid-19-in-positive-tests/
> Ummm... Tom:
> <https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-01-28/pope-says-fake-news-disinformation-on-covid-is-human-rights-violation>
> "Pope Francis said on Friday that spreading fake news and
> disinformation on COVID-19 and vaccines, including by Catholic media,
> is a violation of human rights."
>
> Cease and desist thy violations lest the wrath of God be upon thee.
> Thy place in the 8th level of Dante's Inferno awaits.

So a Jew is suddenly quoting the Pope?

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 11:20:42 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 9:28:15 PM UTC-8, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 13:38:28 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >https://greatreject.org/laboratories-cant-find-covid-19-in-positive-tests/
> > Ummm... Tom:
> > <https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-01-28/pope-says-fake-news-disinformation-on-covid-is-human-rights-violation>
> > "Pope Francis said on Friday that spreading fake news and
> > disinformation on COVID-19 and vaccines, including by Catholic media,
> > is a violation of human rights."
> >
> > Cease and desist thy violations lest the wrath of God be upon thee.
> > Thy place in the 8th level of Dante's Inferno awaits.
> So a Jew is suddenly quoting the Pope?
Why would that be a problem? Oh, I almost forgot, you're a fucking bigot.

On 2/2/2022 10:20 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 9:28:15 PM UTC-8, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 13:38:28 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> https://greatreject.org/laboratories-cant-find-covid-19-in-positive-tests/
>> Ummm... Tom:
>> <https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-01-28/pope-says-fake-news-disinformation-on-covid-is-human-rights-violation>
>> "Pope Francis said on Friday that spreading fake news and
>> disinformation on COVID-19 and vaccines, including by Catholic media,
>> is a violation of human rights."
>>
>> Cease and desist thy violations lest the wrath of God be upon thee.
>> Thy place in the 8th level of Dante's Inferno awaits.
>
> So a Jew is suddenly quoting the Pope?
>

Why ever not?
I quote Marx, Lenin, Obama, Mao...

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 08:20:40 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 9:28:15 PM UTC-8, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 13:38:28 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >https://greatreject.org/laboratories-cant-find-covid-19-in-positive-tests/
>> Ummm... Tom:
>> <https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-01-28/pope-says-fake-news-disinformation-on-covid-is-human-rights-violation>
>> "Pope Francis said on Friday that spreading fake news and
>> disinformation on COVID-19 and vaccines, including by Catholic media,
>> is a violation of human rights."
>>
>> Cease and desist thy violations lest the wrath of God be upon thee.
>> Thy place in the 8th level of Dante's Inferno awaits.
>
>So a Jew is suddenly quoting the Pope?

Why ever not? After all the Pope frequently quotes a Jew.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Wed, 02 Feb 2022 19:36:26 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 08:20:40 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
><cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 9:28:15 PM UTC-8, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 13:38:28 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >https://greatreject.org/laboratories-cant-find-covid-19-in-positive-tests/
>>> Ummm... Tom:
>>> <https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-01-28/pope-says-fake-news-disinformation-on-covid-is-human-rights-violation>
>>> "Pope Francis said on Friday that spreading fake news and
>>> disinformation on COVID-19 and vaccines, including by Catholic media,
>>> is a violation of human rights."
>>>
>>> Cease and desist thy violations lest the wrath of God be upon thee.
>>> Thy place in the 8th level of Dante's Inferno awaits.
>
>>So a Jew is suddenly quoting the Pope?
>
>I thought it might be interesting to see how you would respond. As
>usual and very disappointing, the response was an ad hominem attack
>against the writer. No problem. I'm used to it. Think of what I
>wrote as a warning. Your failure to follow the ninth commandment,
>"Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor", will
>eventually cause some inconvenience as you enter the 8th level of hell
>where souls are burned in brilliant flames. It may also have an
>effect on your friends, assuming you have any. I suspect they do not
>want to be judged by the company they keep.

Well, why shouldn't a Jew quote the Pope, as the Pope quite often
quotes a Jew... or perhaps to be more exact an Israelite (:-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 7:36:37 PM UTC-8, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 08:20:40 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 9:28:15 PM UTC-8, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 13:38:28 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >https://greatreject.org/laboratories-cant-find-covid-19-in-positive-tests/
> >> Ummm... Tom:
> >> <https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-01-28/pope-says-fake-news-disinformation-on-covid-is-human-rights-violation>
> >> "Pope Francis said on Friday that spreading fake news and
> >> disinformation on COVID-19 and vaccines, including by Catholic media,
> >> is a violation of human rights."
> >>
> >> Cease and desist thy violations lest the wrath of God be upon thee.
> >> Thy place in the 8th level of Dante's Inferno awaits.
>
> >So a Jew is suddenly quoting the Pope?
> I thought it might be interesting to see how you would respond. As
> usual and very disappointing, the response was an ad hominem attack
> against the writer. No problem. I'm used to it. Think of what I
> wrote as a warning. Your failure to follow the ninth commandment,
> "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor", will
> eventually cause some inconvenience as you enter the 8th level of hell
> where souls are burned in brilliant flames. It may also have an
> effect on your friends, assuming you have any. I suspect they do not
> want to be judged by the company they keep.

I hate to sink your little boat but my mother and grandfather on her side were Jews. So perhaps you can explain how that was an ad hominem? It was words like those of the Pope that caused the holocaust and you're belief that he can make no mistakes doesn't show well on your ideology.

Freedom of Speech is just that. Too bad you don't quite get that. To you only your speech is honest, accurate and brave.

On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 12:05:15 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 7:36:37 PM UTC-8, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wed, 2 Feb 2022 08:20:40 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Tuesday, February 1, 2022 at 9:28:15 PM UTC-8, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 13:38:28 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> > >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >https://greatreject.org/laboratories-cant-find-covid-19-in-positive-tests/
> > >> Ummm... Tom:
> > >> <https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-01-28/pope-says-fake-news-disinformation-on-covid-is-human-rights-violation>
> > >> "Pope Francis said on Friday that spreading fake news and
> > >> disinformation on COVID-19 and vaccines, including by Catholic media,
> > >> is a violation of human rights."
> > >>
> > >> Cease and desist thy violations lest the wrath of God be upon thee.
> > >> Thy place in the 8th level of Dante's Inferno awaits.
> >
> > >So a Jew is suddenly quoting the Pope?
> > I thought it might be interesting to see how you would respond. As
> > usual and very disappointing, the response was an ad hominem attack
> > against the writer. No problem. I'm used to it. Think of what I
> > wrote as a warning. Your failure to follow the ninth commandment,
> > "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor", will
> > eventually cause some inconvenience as you enter the 8th level of hell
> > where souls are burned in brilliant flames. It may also have an
> > effect on your friends, assuming you have any. I suspect they do not
> > want to be judged by the company they keep.
> I hate to sink your little boat but my mother and grandfather on her side were Jews. So perhaps you can explain how that was an ad hominem?

lol...tommy thinks he knows what an ad hominem is...

> It was words like those of the Pope that caused the holocaust

LOL...sure it was...Now tommy thinks the holocaust was perpetrated by the papacy (and yes, I know of the historical incidents of collaboration between the Nazis, Mussolini, and certain elements within the catholic church.)

> and you're belief that he can make no mistakes doesn't show well on your ideology.

Funny, I don't recall seeing Jeff extol the virtue of papal infallibility anywhere.

> Freedom of Speech is just that. Too bad you don't quite get that.

No one is telling you that you don't have a right to free speech. We're telling you we don't buy into any of yours

> To you only your speech is honest, accurate and brave.

and more irony meters explode.......

On Thu, 03 Feb 2022 11:01:25 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 09:05:12 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
><cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>I hate to sink your little boat but my mother and grandfather
>>on her side were Jews.
>
>The last time you mentioned that, only your maternal grandfather was
>Jewish. I can't seem to find the original posting with Google Groups
>search, but the index shows that you claimed on 04/28/2021:
>"Crazy eBay offers: ...was an Austrian Jew and by the age of 5 spoke
>more Yiddish than I did English."

I'm not Jewish but I had a friend who considered himself Jewish but
referred to himself as a "cultural" Jew as his mother wasn't Jewish
and explained to me that "Jewishness" is passed down through the
maternal line.

If he was correct then Tommy, who says his mother was a Jew is
automatically a Jew. And whether her father (Tommy's grandfather "on
that side") was Jewish or not is meaningless, as grandmother had to
have been Jewish for his mother to have been.

Unless, of course, someone converted as Sammy Davis Jr. did.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 11:01:34 AM UTC-8, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 09:05:12 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I hate to sink your little boat but my mother and grandfather
> >on her side were Jews.
> The last time you mentioned that, only your maternal grandfather was
> Jewish. I can't seem to find the original posting with Google Groups
> search, but the index shows that you claimed on 04/28/2021:
> "Crazy eBay offers: ...was an Austrian Jew and by the age of 5 spoke
> more Yiddish than I did English."
> >So perhaps you can explain how that was an ad hominem?
> Definition: Ad hominem (of an argument or reaction) directed against
> a person rather than the position they are maintaining.
>
> I was writing about Pope Francis condemning fake news and your
> probable fate. You ignored that only added:
> "So a Jew is suddenly quoting the Pope?"
> which would seem to be a personal attack against me and not about the
> subjects I was discussing.
> >It was words like those of the Pope that caused the holocaust
> >and you're belief that he can make no mistakes doesn't show well
> >on your ideology.
> It might be of interest that Pope Pius XII was in a rather difficult
> position:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Pius_XII>
> The Vatican was in the middle of Rome, and Italy was ruled by the
> fascist friends of Germany. To denounce the actions of either Italy
> or Rome would probably have been a rather bad idea. So, he did
> nothing official to help the Jews during WWII. He did however provide
> considerable assistance through unofficial channels. Personally, I
> would blame him for his inaction, but my parents and their friends,
> who survived the concentration camps, were less considerate of his
> position. The Vatican has done quite well performing damage control
> to its reputation:
> "Pope ends year as he began it -- with apology to Jews" (Dec 2009)
> <http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/12/24/pope.apology/index.html>
> I think it's safe to suggest that Pope Pius XII would likely have done
> more to help if he could.
>
> If you have any proof that Pope Pius XII caused the holocaust, please
> tell it to someone who does not think you have your head up your
> posterior. I'm not interested.
> >Freedom of Speech is just that. Too bad you don't quite get that.
> >To you only your speech is honest, accurate and brave.
> Whether freedom of speech includes disseminating lies and wrong
> information is subject to some debate. The current consensus is that
> it does not.
> "False statements of fact"
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_statements_of_fact>

So you're not a Jew and don't have do much an inkling of Jewish law? Somehow I should have known that. Your name is Ashkenazi but your mind is atheist.. Every posting you make here has shown an entire lack of religion. You certainly have damned yourself for falsehood after falsehood to make yourself feel better about yourself. But you are unaware of the Jewish laws.