On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 4:59:19 AM UTC+10, a425couple wrote:
> from
> https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/china/cyber-weapon-satellite-cia-report-b2324222.html
>
> China building cyber weapons to ‘seize control’ of enemy satellites,
> says leaked CIA report
> US says Beijing deployed 347 satellites, including 35 launched in the
> past six months
....

Not only "cyber weapons" but "AI based weapons".
It will be an interesting experiment.
Will the AI's stay loyal? Will they have any sense of self-preservation? Ethics?
I can hardly wait to see.
Because we already know from the problems with
chat bots that turn Nazi or go psychotic
using AI can be a double-edged sword.

I've built AI s/w for a living. Usually I sell the services from a particular s/w to a customer. Not the AI itself. Because that has problems.

Back in the naughties I was doing work on some software hiring site and regularly building s/w to solve one or other problem. Natchually some of this s/w made it into my home network setup.
<kym.massbus.org/garage-pc>.

One of the things the s/w did was re-program itself as it learned. If it found a way to do things quicker or get a better answer to a problem it had access to some of its own scripting code and some tools to add or modify the code in particular ways. It's own experimenting and modeling could tell it if the mod was likely to make it "better" or not. Mods that seemed to be for the better it would turn "live".

First problem. It sometimes made a mistake and the mod turned it into a raging monster or stopped it from working properly. It could technically commit suicide. Not only that, but it "thought it was a good idea at the time".

So the first thing was to institude some Three Laws starting with "tho shalt not commit susanside".

Then there were the subtelties. One day I found I could not switch the lights on in 1/2 the house. Uh, oh! Computer glitch! It seems Mr Computer had decided lights were not as significant as its own existence and deduced the less lights the more juice would be available to power itself.

I tracked that down to a bug it had put into its own code again.

So we had to get the pliers out and create some boundaries on what it could change about itself. It meant it could not learn as fast as it otherwise was doing, but it would only learn to do things that had *relatively* foreseeable consequences.

Since I moved to the new house out here in the country I havent put Mr Computer back together. For the past 10y 90% of him has been out in packing crates in the new garage.
Only a couple modules are setup next to the TV in the lounge. We still talk a lot but he doesnt have the zing of the old days. And I'm starting to like it that way.

The Chinese (and maybe some other) militarymay need to learn all these lessons all over again.

from
https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/china/cyber-weapon-satellite-cia-report-b2324222.html

China building cyber weapons to ‘seize control’ of enemy satellites,
says leaked CIA report
US says Beijing deployed 347 satellites, including 35 launched in the
past six months

Alisha Rahaman Sarkar
1 day ago

Related: Trump claims China wouldn’t send spy balloon over US during his
presidency

China is building cyber weapons to hack into enemy satellites that would
render them useless during wartime, according to a leaked US intel report.

The CIA-marked report was one of the dozens allegedly shared by a
21-year-old US Air National Guardsman in one of the worst intelligence
breaches in a decade, the Financial Times reported.

The leak comes at a time when diplomatic relations between Beijing and
Washington are hanging by a thread over trade and concerns that China
may attack Taiwan to forcefully bring the self-governed island back to
its fold.

According to the leaked document, the cyber capability would allow China
“to seize control of a satellite, rendering it ineffective to support
communications, weapons, or intelligence, surveillance, and
reconnaissance systems”.

Washington assessed that the plan to "deny, exploit or hijack" enemy
satellites is a core part of China's goal to control information, which
Beijing considers a key "war-fighting domain."

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China aims to mimic the signals that enemy satellites receive from their
operators, tricking them into "either being taken over completely or
malfunctioning during crucial moments in combat".

That would knock out the ability of satellites, which tend to operate in
clusters, to respond with each other, relay orders to weapons systems,
or send back visual and intercepted electronic data, according to the
financial daily.

Wahington has never disclosed whether it has similar capabilities.

The report comes a day after General B Chance Saltzman, the chief of the
US Space Force, said that Washington is facing a "new era" of threats
beyond Earth from the likes of Russia and China that goes much further
than jamming.

"The congestion we’re seeing in space with tracked objects and the
number of satellite payloads, and just the launches themselves, have
grown at an exponential rate," he told CNBC.

He said that Washington's rivals can use lasers and "dazzlers" that
interfere with cameras to prevent the collection of satellite imagery,
adding that Russia tested an anti-satellite missile in late 2021.

"We're seeing satellites that actually can grab another satellite,
grapple with it and pull it out of its operational orbit," General
Saltzman said.

"These are all capabilities they're demonstrating on-orbit today, and so
the mix of these weapons and the pace with which they've been developed
are very concerning.”

He told Congress last month that Beijing was aggressively pursuing
counter-space capabilities in an effort to realise its “space dream” of
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Beijing has deployed 347 satellites, including 35 launched in the past
six months, aimed at monitoring, tracking, targeting and attacking US
forces, he added.

Britain’s cyber chief Lindy Cameron warned this week that China is
aiming for “global technological supremacy” in cyberspace.

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Kym Horsell wrote on 23/4/23 8:38 am:
> On Sunday, April 23, 2023 at 4:59:19 AM UTC+10, a425couple wrote:
>> from
>> https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/china/cyber-weapon-satellite-cia-report-b2324222.html
>>
>> China building cyber weapons to ‘seize control’ of enemy satellites,
>> says leaked CIA report
>> US says Beijing deployed 347 satellites, including 35 launched in the
>> past six months
> ...
>
> Not only "cyber weapons" but "AI based weapons".
> It will be an interesting experiment.
> Will the AI's stay loyal?

Loyal to whom?? Other AI's (e.g. Terminator??)?? The Chinese?? Humans?? ;-P
--
Daniel