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* Pressed-together crankshaftsbob prohaska
+* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsJohn B.
|`* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsClare Snyder
| +* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsJohn B.
| |+- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsJim Wilkins
| |`- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsClare Snyder
| `- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsSnag
+- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsLeon Fisk
+- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsJim Wilkins
+* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsJim Wilkins
|+- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsbob prohaska
|`* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsDavid Billington
| +* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsbob prohaska
| |`- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsJim Wilkins
| `* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsBob Engelhardt
|  `* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsJim Wilkins
|   `* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsCydrome Leader
|    `* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsClare Snyder
|     +- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsJim Wilkins
|     `* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsCydrome Leader
|      `* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsClare Snyder
|       `* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsCydrome Leader
|        `- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsClare Snyder
`* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsEd Huntress
 +* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsDavid Billington
 |`* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsEd Huntress
 | +- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsGerry
 | `* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsJoe Gwinn
 |  `- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsEd Huntress
 +* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsJim Wilkins
 |`* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsEd Huntress
 | `* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsJim Wilkins
 |  `* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsEd Huntress
 |   `* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsDavid Billington
 |    `* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsEd Huntress
 |     `* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsDavid Billington
 |      +* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsEd Huntress
 |      |+* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsDavid Billington
 |      ||`* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsEd Huntress
 |      || +* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsDavid Billington
 |      || |`* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsEd Huntress
 |      || | +* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsDavid Billington
 |      || | |`- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsEd Huntress
 |      || | `- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsJim Wilkins
 |      || `- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsGerry
 |      |`* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsJim Wilkins
 |      | `- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsEd Huntress
 |      `* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsRichard Smith
 |       +* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsEd Huntress
 |       |`- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsJim Wilkins
 |       +* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsJim Wilkins
 |       |`* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsRichard Smith
 |       | +- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsJim Wilkins
 |       | +- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsJim Wilkins
 |       | `* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsClare Snyder
 |       |  `* Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsRichard Smith
 |       |   `- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsEd Huntress
 |       `- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsClare Snyder
 `- Re: Pressed-together crankshaftsSpehro Pefhany

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Re: Pressed-together crankshafts

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Subject: Re: Pressed-together crankshafts
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 by: Richard Smith - Sat, 14 Aug 2021 09:14 UTC

Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> writes:

> On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 21:57:15 +0100, Richard Smith <null@void.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>>
>>> Another Russian trick which a prisoner shared with the Germans was to
>>> pour gas into the oil tank before shutting down. They would also open
>>> the cowl and light a small fire under the cold engine. I don't know if
>>> they used both at the same time.
>>
>>Gasoline would stop the diesel oil freezing in extreme cold?
>>
>>Lighting a fire under the engine - better only on a mechanical
>>injector engine ? (not vulnerable to hot gases flowing over the
>>engine)
>>Not to be recommended in this time of engines festooned with
>>electronics and electrics boxes?
> Remember, he was talking about RUSSIAN equipment - generally rough
> as a cob low tech stuff - but yes, gasomine in the lubricating oil
> thins it when cold and boils out when the engine gets upto
> temperature. Has also been done on old aircraft engines.
>
> The fire under the oil pan trick has also been used quite a bit - A
> guy I used to work with started his Corvair in cold weather by
> sticking a steel fence post wrapped with burlap and chicken wire into
> a barrel of used motor oiland kerosene, lighting it and shoving it
> under the back of the car beforeg oing in for breakfast after doing
> his morning farm chares. The engine was toasty warm and ready to go
> when he was ready to leave for work. The back of the butter yellow
> corvair looked like it belonged to a driveway sealing outfit - covered
> in "tar"

Vivid description - can see it in my mind's-eye.

Re: Pressed-together crankshafts

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 by: Ed Huntress - Sat, 14 Aug 2021 19:01 UTC

On Saturday, August 14, 2021 at 5:14:57 AM UTC-4, Richard Smith wrote:
> Clare Snyder <cl...@snyder.on.ca> writes:
>
> > On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 21:57:15 +0100, Richard Smith <nu...@void.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>"Jim Wilkins" <murat...@gmail.com> writes:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Another Russian trick which a prisoner shared with the Germans was to
> >>> pour gas into the oil tank before shutting down. They would also open
> >>> the cowl and light a small fire under the cold engine. I don't know if
> >>> they used both at the same time.
> >>
> >>Gasoline would stop the diesel oil freezing in extreme cold?
> >>
> >>Lighting a fire under the engine - better only on a mechanical
> >>injector engine ? (not vulnerable to hot gases flowing over the
> >>engine)
> >>Not to be recommended in this time of engines festooned with
> >>electronics and electrics boxes?
> > Remember, he was talking about RUSSIAN equipment - generally rough
> > as a cob low tech stuff - but yes, gasomine in the lubricating oil
> > thins it when cold and boils out when the engine gets upto
> > temperature. Has also been done on old aircraft engines.
> >
> > The fire under the oil pan trick has also been used quite a bit - A
> > guy I used to work with started his Corvair in cold weather by
> > sticking a steel fence post wrapped with burlap and chicken wire into
> > a barrel of used motor oiland kerosene, lighting it and shoving it
> > under the back of the car beforeg oing in for breakfast after doing
> > his morning farm chares. The engine was toasty warm and ready to go
> > when he was ready to leave for work. The back of the butter yellow
> > corvair looked like it belonged to a driveway sealing outfit - covered
> > in "tar"
> Vivid description - can see it in my mind's-eye.

Nice to see you guys, and I'm glad to see that the cross-posting trolls are at a low ebb. I hope it stays that way. Hasta la vista!

--
Ed Huntress

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Jim Wilkins <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Bob Engelhardt" wrote in message news:sbuvvn03d2@news1.newsguy.com...
>
> On 7/2/2021 6:04 PM, David Billington wrote:
> ...
>> http://www.waghornswood.net.nz/Manuals_01_18/Interesting/The_realignment_afloat_of_a_ships_main_engine_crankshaft.pdf
> ...
>
> Clever ... I wonder if this sort of repair had been used prior or if the
> author was the first. If first, I have to admire his willingness to
> jump in the deep end, so to speak.
>
> I got a chuckle out his titles: "RJF Hudson PhD., BAppSc., DMS., CEng.,
> Extra First Class M.O.T FIMarEST., FIMechE., MCMI."
>
> ------
> I suspect that every possible sort of failure had occurred soon after a
> design was introduced. Prior to WW2 engineering was cut-and-try, strengthen
> whatever broke.
>
> https://www.enginehistory.org/members/articles/CrankDesignEvol.shtml
> "Eventually, in the late 1930s, experimental stress analysis began to be
> incorporated into the design process."

We've gone backwards these days with consumer products. The goal seems is
apparently weaken ever part until the product can just not fall apart
during shipping. If that doesn't do the trick, bad firmware or other
computer problems will do the trick.

I've been resurrecting a mid-late 1990s Amana washing machine. Most parts
are still available, and if you're sneaky you can use coin-op machine
maintenance kits which have most of the parts that can wear, at a much
lower price than the part numbers in the "correct" exploded diagram.

Imported trash from samsung and LG can't even be fixed under warranty. I
enjoy warning people to not buy imported appliances, and if they do, don't
worry about it, you'll get another chance in about 3 years.

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 by: Clare Snyder - Thu, 2 Sep 2021 21:45 UTC

On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:20:47 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
<presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

>Jim Wilkins <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:
>> "Bob Engelhardt" wrote in message news:sbuvvn03d2@news1.newsguy.com...
>>
>> On 7/2/2021 6:04 PM, David Billington wrote:
>> ...
>>> http://www.waghornswood.net.nz/Manuals_01_18/Interesting/The_realignment_afloat_of_a_ships_main_engine_crankshaft.pdf
>> ...
>>
>> Clever ... I wonder if this sort of repair had been used prior or if the
>> author was the first. If first, I have to admire his willingness to
>> jump in the deep end, so to speak.
>>
>> I got a chuckle out his titles: "RJF Hudson PhD., BAppSc., DMS., CEng.,
>> Extra First Class M.O.T FIMarEST., FIMechE., MCMI."
>>
>> ------
>> I suspect that every possible sort of failure had occurred soon after a
>> design was introduced. Prior to WW2 engineering was cut-and-try, strengthen
>> whatever broke.
>>
>> https://www.enginehistory.org/members/articles/CrankDesignEvol.shtml
>> "Eventually, in the late 1930s, experimental stress analysis began to be
>> incorporated into the design process."
>
>We've gone backwards these days with consumer products. The goal seems is
>apparently weaken ever part until the product can just not fall apart
>during shipping. If that doesn't do the trick, bad firmware or other
>computer problems will do the trick.
>
>I've been resurrecting a mid-late 1990s Amana washing machine. Most parts
>are still available, and if you're sneaky you can use coin-op machine
>maintenance kits which have most of the parts that can wear, at a much
>lower price than the part numbers in the "correct" exploded diagram.
>
>Imported trash from samsung and LG can't even be fixed under warranty. I
>enjoy warning people to not buy imported appliances, and if they do, don't
>worry about it, you'll get another chance in about 3 years.
>
>
The latest "american made" appliances are every bit as bad as the
imported stuff and will MOST likely have a non-american name on it -
like Bosch. Repairing them is just as hard since a lot of the parts
still come from away.
I tried to get a gear for a KitchenAid pedestal mixer a month or so
back, and they said the wait could be 4 or 5 months. Thankfully a
sib-assembly was available that contained the required part that I was
able to locate - their parts department didn't have a CLUE that the
assembly was available and that it contained the part I needed (and
took about 20 minutes or more off the repair time). I guess that is
why THAT part was still available - - -

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 by: Jim Wilkins - Thu, 2 Sep 2021 23:09 UTC

"Clare Snyder" wrote in message
news:g3h2jg9ot26due53208v3ikco5oto3md4q@4ax.com...

The latest "american made" appliances are every bit as bad as the
imported stuff and will MOST likely have a non-american name on it -
like Bosch. Repairing them is just as hard since a lot of the parts
still come from away.
I tried to get a gear for a KitchenAid pedestal mixer a month or so
back, and they said the wait could be 4 or 5 months. Thankfully a
sib-assembly was available that contained the required part that I was
able to locate - their parts department didn't have a CLUE that the
assembly was available and that it contained the part I needed (and
took about 20 minutes or more off the repair time). I guess that is
why THAT part was still available - - -

---------------------

There's useful equipment in my shop from the 50's

The 1850's.

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 by: Cydrome Leader - Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:41 UTC

Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:20:47 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
> <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
>
>>Jim Wilkins <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Bob Engelhardt" wrote in message news:sbuvvn03d2@news1.newsguy.com...
>>>
>>> On 7/2/2021 6:04 PM, David Billington wrote:
>>> ...
>>>> http://www.waghornswood.net.nz/Manuals_01_18/Interesting/The_realignment_afloat_of_a_ships_main_engine_crankshaft.pdf
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Clever ... I wonder if this sort of repair had been used prior or if the
>>> author was the first. If first, I have to admire his willingness to
>>> jump in the deep end, so to speak.
>>>
>>> I got a chuckle out his titles: "RJF Hudson PhD., BAppSc., DMS., CEng.,
>>> Extra First Class M.O.T FIMarEST., FIMechE., MCMI."
>>>
>>> ------
>>> I suspect that every possible sort of failure had occurred soon after a
>>> design was introduced. Prior to WW2 engineering was cut-and-try, strengthen
>>> whatever broke.
>>>
>>> https://www.enginehistory.org/members/articles/CrankDesignEvol.shtml
>>> "Eventually, in the late 1930s, experimental stress analysis began to be
>>> incorporated into the design process."
>>
>>We've gone backwards these days with consumer products. The goal seems is
>>apparently weaken ever part until the product can just not fall apart
>>during shipping. If that doesn't do the trick, bad firmware or other
>>computer problems will do the trick.
>>
>>I've been resurrecting a mid-late 1990s Amana washing machine. Most parts
>>are still available, and if you're sneaky you can use coin-op machine
>>maintenance kits which have most of the parts that can wear, at a much
>>lower price than the part numbers in the "correct" exploded diagram.
>>
>>Imported trash from samsung and LG can't even be fixed under warranty. I
>>enjoy warning people to not buy imported appliances, and if they do, don't
>>worry about it, you'll get another chance in about 3 years.
>>
>>
> The latest "american made" appliances are every bit as bad as the
> imported stuff and will MOST likely have a non-american name on it -
> like Bosch. Repairing them is just as hard since a lot of the parts
> still come from away.

What's an example of a bosch badged appliance made by say whirlpool that
has impossible to get parts?

> I tried to get a gear for a KitchenAid pedestal mixer a month or so
> back, and they said the wait could be 4 or 5 months. Thankfully a
> sib-assembly was available that contained the required part that I was
> able to locate - their parts department didn't have a CLUE that the
> assembly was available and that it contained the part I needed (and
> took about 20 minutes or more off the repair time). I guess that is
> why THAT part was still available - - -

They had a parts department and you got the parts. Try that with a LG
anything. It's not super uncommon for an entire assembly to be cheaper or
more avialable than a single part in it. It's silly, but nothing too new.

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 by: Clare Snyder - Sat, 16 Oct 2021 05:25 UTC

On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:41:18 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
<presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

>Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:20:47 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
>> <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Jim Wilkins <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "Bob Engelhardt" wrote in message news:sbuvvn03d2@news1.newsguy.com...
>>>>
>>>> On 7/2/2021 6:04 PM, David Billington wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>> http://www.waghornswood.net.nz/Manuals_01_18/Interesting/The_realignment_afloat_of_a_ships_main_engine_crankshaft.pdf
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Clever ... I wonder if this sort of repair had been used prior or if the
>>>> author was the first. If first, I have to admire his willingness to
>>>> jump in the deep end, so to speak.
>>>>
>>>> I got a chuckle out his titles: "RJF Hudson PhD., BAppSc., DMS., CEng.,
>>>> Extra First Class M.O.T FIMarEST., FIMechE., MCMI."
>>>>
>>>> ------
>>>> I suspect that every possible sort of failure had occurred soon after a
>>>> design was introduced. Prior to WW2 engineering was cut-and-try, strengthen
>>>> whatever broke.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.enginehistory.org/members/articles/CrankDesignEvol.shtml
>>>> "Eventually, in the late 1930s, experimental stress analysis began to be
>>>> incorporated into the design process."
>>>
>>>We've gone backwards these days with consumer products. The goal seems is
>>>apparently weaken ever part until the product can just not fall apart
>>>during shipping. If that doesn't do the trick, bad firmware or other
>>>computer problems will do the trick.
>>>
>>>I've been resurrecting a mid-late 1990s Amana washing machine. Most parts
>>>are still available, and if you're sneaky you can use coin-op machine
>>>maintenance kits which have most of the parts that can wear, at a much
>>>lower price than the part numbers in the "correct" exploded diagram.
>>>
>>>Imported trash from samsung and LG can't even be fixed under warranty. I
>>>enjoy warning people to not buy imported appliances, and if they do, don't
>>>worry about it, you'll get another chance in about 3 years.
>>>
>>>
>> The latest "american made" appliances are every bit as bad as the
>> imported stuff and will MOST likely have a non-american name on it -
>> like Bosch. Repairing them is just as hard since a lot of the parts
>> still come from away.
>
>What's an example of a bosch badged appliance made by say whirlpool that
>has impossible to get parts?

Not what I said. Check where your Bosch dishwasher is made -- it aint
der fatherland!!!
>
>> I tried to get a gear for a KitchenAid pedestal mixer a month or so
>> back, and they said the wait could be 4 or 5 months. Thankfully a
>> sib-assembly was available that contained the required part that I was
>> able to locate - their parts department didn't have a CLUE that the
>> assembly was available and that it contained the part I needed (and
>> took about 20 minutes or more off the repair time). I guess that is
>> why THAT part was still available - - -
>
>They had a parts department and you got the parts. Try that with a LG
>anything. It's not super uncommon for an entire assembly to be cheaper or
>more avialable than a single part in it. It's silly, but nothing too new.

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Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:41:18 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
> <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
>
>>Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:20:47 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
>>> <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Jim Wilkins <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> "Bob Engelhardt" wrote in message news:sbuvvn03d2@news1.newsguy.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/2/2021 6:04 PM, David Billington wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>> http://www.waghornswood.net.nz/Manuals_01_18/Interesting/The_realignment_afloat_of_a_ships_main_engine_crankshaft.pdf
>>>>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Clever ... I wonder if this sort of repair had been used prior or if the
>>>>> author was the first. If first, I have to admire his willingness to
>>>>> jump in the deep end, so to speak.
>>>>>
>>>>> I got a chuckle out his titles: "RJF Hudson PhD., BAppSc., DMS., CEng.,
>>>>> Extra First Class M.O.T FIMarEST., FIMechE., MCMI."
>>>>>
>>>>> ------
>>>>> I suspect that every possible sort of failure had occurred soon after a
>>>>> design was introduced. Prior to WW2 engineering was cut-and-try, strengthen
>>>>> whatever broke.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.enginehistory.org/members/articles/CrankDesignEvol.shtml
>>>>> "Eventually, in the late 1930s, experimental stress analysis began to be
>>>>> incorporated into the design process."
>>>>
>>>>We've gone backwards these days with consumer products. The goal seems is
>>>>apparently weaken ever part until the product can just not fall apart
>>>>during shipping. If that doesn't do the trick, bad firmware or other
>>>>computer problems will do the trick.
>>>>
>>>>I've been resurrecting a mid-late 1990s Amana washing machine. Most parts
>>>>are still available, and if you're sneaky you can use coin-op machine
>>>>maintenance kits which have most of the parts that can wear, at a much
>>>>lower price than the part numbers in the "correct" exploded diagram.
>>>>
>>>>Imported trash from samsung and LG can't even be fixed under warranty. I
>>>>enjoy warning people to not buy imported appliances, and if they do, don't
>>>>worry about it, you'll get another chance in about 3 years.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> The latest "american made" appliances are every bit as bad as the
>>> imported stuff and will MOST likely have a non-american name on it -
>>> like Bosch. Repairing them is just as hard since a lot of the parts
>>> still come from away.
>>
>>What's an example of a bosch badged appliance made by say whirlpool that
>>has impossible to get parts?
>
> Not what I said. Check where your Bosch dishwasher is made -- it aint
> der fatherland!!!

Pakistan? China? I'd never make the mistake of buying a bosch appliance.

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 by: Clare Snyder - Sat, 6 Nov 2021 01:15 UTC

On Fri, 5 Nov 2021 20:01:55 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
<presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

>Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>> On Fri, 15 Oct 2021 18:41:18 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
>> <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Clare Snyder <clare@snyder.on.ca> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:20:47 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
>>>> <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Jim Wilkins <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> "Bob Engelhardt" wrote in message news:sbuvvn03d2@news1.newsguy.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/2/2021 6:04 PM, David Billington wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> http://www.waghornswood.net.nz/Manuals_01_18/Interesting/The_realignment_afloat_of_a_ships_main_engine_crankshaft.pdf
>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Clever ... I wonder if this sort of repair had been used prior or if the
>>>>>> author was the first. If first, I have to admire his willingness to
>>>>>> jump in the deep end, so to speak.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I got a chuckle out his titles: "RJF Hudson PhD., BAppSc., DMS., CEng.,
>>>>>> Extra First Class M.O.T FIMarEST., FIMechE., MCMI."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------
>>>>>> I suspect that every possible sort of failure had occurred soon after a
>>>>>> design was introduced. Prior to WW2 engineering was cut-and-try, strengthen
>>>>>> whatever broke.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.enginehistory.org/members/articles/CrankDesignEvol.shtml
>>>>>> "Eventually, in the late 1930s, experimental stress analysis began to be
>>>>>> incorporated into the design process."
>>>>>
>>>>>We've gone backwards these days with consumer products. The goal seems is
>>>>>apparently weaken ever part until the product can just not fall apart
>>>>>during shipping. If that doesn't do the trick, bad firmware or other
>>>>>computer problems will do the trick.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've been resurrecting a mid-late 1990s Amana washing machine. Most parts
>>>>>are still available, and if you're sneaky you can use coin-op machine
>>>>>maintenance kits which have most of the parts that can wear, at a much
>>>>>lower price than the part numbers in the "correct" exploded diagram.
>>>>>
>>>>>Imported trash from samsung and LG can't even be fixed under warranty. I
>>>>>enjoy warning people to not buy imported appliances, and if they do, don't
>>>>>worry about it, you'll get another chance in about 3 years.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> The latest "american made" appliances are every bit as bad as the
>>>> imported stuff and will MOST likely have a non-american name on it -
>>>> like Bosch. Repairing them is just as hard since a lot of the parts
>>>> still come from away.
>>>
>>>What's an example of a bosch badged appliance made by say whirlpool that
>>>has impossible to get parts?
>>
>> Not what I said. Check where your Bosch dishwasher is made -- it aint
>> der fatherland!!!
>
>Pakistan? China? I'd never make the mistake of buying a bosch appliance.
It's the only brand of dishwasher available in the USA that is BUILT
IN THE USA. (at least that was true a year and ahalf ago)

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