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* Constant attacksTom Kunich
+* Re: Constant attacksJeff Liebermann
|+* Re: Constant attackssms
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|`* Re: Constant attacksTom Kunich
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Re: Constant attacks

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 by: Tom Kunich - Thu, 8 Jul 2021 14:51 UTC

On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 3:43:27 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 7/7/2021 6:01 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >
> > I showed you ABSOLUTE PROOF that no excess numbers of people died from covid...
>
> No you didn't, Tom. You're deluding yourself, and only yourself.
> > Tell me you human garbage pit - where are the extra deaths?
> See if you can understand this:
>
> https://tinyurl.com/bnmz69yy
>
> Get help, if you can't understand it.

Tell me what the hell you know anymore about covid-19 than you do about Campagnolo levers. What exactly have you ever done with medical research? I have done it and I know how to interpret the real data. You barely know how to use the crooked Google to look things up. This is why Google is being sued by so many states. But you cannot understand why that would be because all you know about Google is that you can do searches and if they only show one side of the story that is the side you take because on your brightest day you couldn't generate on match worth of light.

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 by: Tom Kunich - Thu, 8 Jul 2021 14:55 UTC

On Thursday, July 8, 2021 at 1:55:21 AM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 7, 2021 at 10:46:50 PM UTC+1, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > So 66.000 illegal ballots discovered in Michigan alone is a rumor is it? I personally SAW you fucking Democrats drive and entire bus .load of illegal aliens into my local poll and each one of them had a sheet of paper with the name of someone that either died or moved of of the area to vote under. Most of them couldn't speak any English and the majority of them were illiterate so that they couldn't even read the directions on how to vote. So the translators had to do into the booth with them to show them HOW to vote.. All they were told to do was to vote for Obama. We discovered a way to end that was to place the polling place in the police service yard and suddenly half of the normal voters disappeared. In the last election they moved the polling place to 4 miles away from my house instead of the 3 blocks. After I filled out the ballot, instead of putting it through the counting machine, they put is in a suitcase with a slot in the top so that they could go through them and throw out all of the Republicans voters.
> >
> > Tell me, what part of this is a RUMOR you fucking thief? You better prey that I'm not introduced to the real Scharf because your medical insurance will be strongly tried. The ONLY world of you leftists is a world of lies and you are all going to pay for it in the end.

In order to preserve their long line of false voting they put the polling place back at the local school. So I had to WATCH them put my ballot into the counting machine again. But Jay thinks that 15% of the electorate gives and accurate view of the election despite most people having given up on any California election honesty.

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 by: sms - Thu, 8 Jul 2021 17:19 UTC

On 7/7/2021 8:00 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

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> Ok, you got me there. I looked at Google maps between the west side
> of Santa Cruz and Ano Nuevo and didn't find an underpass under Hwy 1.
> How about a clue? It's only been 25 years or so since I've ridden on
> Hwy 1. Hopefully, you're not thinking of the abandoned tunnel under
> Hwy 1 from the Davenport pier?

Two underpasses actually, one at the south end of Wilder Ranch State
Park, one at the north end. See <https://imgur.com/5ASV7Yp>.

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 by: Tom Kunich - Thu, 8 Jul 2021 20:27 UTC

On Thursday, July 8, 2021 at 10:19:54 AM UTC-7, sms wrote:
> On 7/7/2021 8:00 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > Ok, you got me there. I looked at Google maps between the west side
> > of Santa Cruz and Ano Nuevo and didn't find an underpass under Hwy 1.
> > How about a clue? It's only been 25 years or so since I've ridden on
> > Hwy 1. Hopefully, you're not thinking of the abandoned tunnel under
> > Hwy 1 from the Davenport pier?
> Two underpasses actually, one at the south end of Wilder Ranch State
> Park, one at the north end. See <https://imgur.com/5ASV7Yp>.
I had the idea that there was a school around there close by since it looked more like a bridge for pedestrians.

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Vào lúc 03:27:34 UTC+7 ngày Thứ Sáu, 9 tháng 7, 2021, cycl...@gmail.com đã viết:
> On Thursday, July 8, 2021 at 10:19:54 AM UTC-7, sms wrote:
> > On 7/7/2021 8:00 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> > > Ok, you got me there. I looked at Google maps between the west side
> > > of Santa Cruz and Ano Nuevo and didn't find an underpass under Hwy 1.
> > > How about a clue? It's only been 25 years or so since I've ridden on
> > > Hwy 1. Hopefully, you're not thinking of the abandoned tunnel under
> > > Hwy 1 from the Davenport pier?
> > Two underpasses actually, one at the south end of Wilder Ranch State
> > Park, one at the north end. See <https://imgur.com/5ASV7Yp>.
> I had the idea that there was a school around there close by since it looked more like a bridge for pedestrians.
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 by: Andre Jute - Thu, 3 Mar 2022 09:03 UTC

On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 1:35:36 AM UTC+1, Ralph Barone wrote:
> John B. <sloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 13:59:57 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
> > <ra...@invalid.com> wrote:
> >
> >> John B. <sloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 19:24:13 -0700, sms <scharf...@geemail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On 7/2/2021 5:05 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> <snip>
> >>>>
> >>>>> There seems to be some disagreements as to the substance of Tom's
> >>>>> contributions. Not much has changed in the last 15 years.
> >>>>> By the way, nice change of topic.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jobst did not suffer fools gladly.
> >>>>
> >>>> But those individuals here that delight in attacking Tom, they may want
> >>>> to consider the following:
> >>>>
> >>>> “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the
> >>>> difference.” ? Author Unknown
> >>>
> >>> King James edition Proverbs 26:4
> >>> "Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto
> >>> him."
> >>
> >> So why do you do it?
> >
> > King James edition John 8:32
> >
> > And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
>
> Yeah, tell me how that’s working out.
>
A very acute observation, Master Ralph.
>
Andre Jute
Yeah, verily!
>

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On Thursday, March 3, 2022 at 1:04:02 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 1:35:36 AM UTC+1, Ralph Barone wrote:
> > John B. <sloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Sat, 3 Jul 2021 13:59:57 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
> > > <ra...@invalid.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> John B. <sloc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 19:24:13 -0700, sms <scharf...@geemail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> On 7/2/2021 5:05 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> <snip>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> There seems to be some disagreements as to the substance of Tom's
> > >>>>> contributions. Not much has changed in the last 15 years.
> > >>>>> By the way, nice change of topic.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Jobst did not suffer fools gladly.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> But those individuals here that delight in attacking Tom, they may want
> > >>>> to consider the following:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the
> > >>>> difference.” ? Author Unknown
> > >>>
> > >>> King James edition Proverbs 26:4
> > >>> "Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto
> > >>> him."
> > >>
> > >> So why do you do it?
> > >
> > > King James edition John 8:32
> > >
> > > And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
> >
> > Yeah, tell me how that’s working out.
> >
> A very acute observation, Master Ralph.
> >
> Andre Jute
> Yeah, verily!

Imagine holding up Jobst as some light in the darkness. A man who would purposely put novice riders into positions of extreme danger to the point where several of them had to be hospitalized. A man who chose my comments to that effect as becoming an enemy of his and with total absence of the slightest moral character, published the address of my mother on the internet so that he stupid lame followers would drive by and throw all sorts of garbage on her porch believing that I was living there. From his comments, I suspect Jeff as being of the same ilk and had he done that when I was mowing her lawn weekly and doing her gardening, he would not be in the position now of being a sick cripple with heart problems and about to die painfully. But God has seen into his heart.

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On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 7:00:13 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
> On 7/4/2021 1:42 AM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 9:24:18 PM UTC-5, sms wrote:
> >>
> >> But those individuals here that delight in attacking Tom, they may want
> >> to consider the following:
> >>
> >> “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the
> >> difference.†― Author Unknown
> >
> > Unknown saying now ascribed to Proverbs and the book of John. How dare anyone use the teachings of the Bible to contradict Republicans. Imagine Jesus Christ (the foundation of Christianity) being good to Mexicans or blacks and giving them rights? People different than himself. Different being non caucasian skinny white man as he is portrayed in USA christianity. And imagine Jesus Christ feeding the poor with something like SNAP, food stamps? He would want to eliminate it. Like a certain political party. And giving money, charity, to unemployed people? Unimaginable. And providing health care to people? How dare they propose something so unchristian. Wow.
> >
> > Now regarding arguing with a fool. I would disagree it is an argument. Tom just states very obvious lies. And I and many others simply provide facts. Is that an argument? Arguments usually have sides that take up different positions and then provide facts or relevant material to support their side of the argument. He who has the best, most persuasive support, wins. But Tom never ever supports his lies. He just lies and makes up nonsensical words. So I don't think anyone is arguing with Tom. Just correcting his lies and nonsense.
> >
> > Similar to someone who is 500 pounds and lays in bed all the time. He says he is skinny and athletic. You simply state the obvious and factually contradict his words. Is that an argument? I say no.
> >
> Nice conservative straw man you got there.
> Beat him up again please.
>
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>
+1T
Hey, man, they're winning. They're winning! They're winning. Of course they're winning. Who was it that said, "If you tell a lie often enough, someone will believe you." Josef Goebbels?

Andre Jute
Some monkeys are too old to learn when they're beaten, some have always been too stupid to learn.

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On Thursday, March 3, 2022 at 11:43:53 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
> On Sunday, July 4, 2021 at 7:00:13 PM UTC+1, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 7/4/2021 1:42 AM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 2, 2021 at 9:24:18 PM UTC-5, sms wrote:
> > >>
> > >> But those individuals here that delight in attacking Tom, they may want
> > >> to consider the following:
> > >>
> > >> “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the
> > >> difference.†― Author Unknown
> > >
> > > Unknown saying now ascribed to Proverbs and the book of John. How dare anyone use the teachings of the Bible to contradict Republicans. Imagine Jesus Christ (the foundation of Christianity) being good to Mexicans or blacks and giving them rights? People different than himself. Different being non caucasian skinny white man as he is portrayed in USA christianity. And imagine Jesus Christ feeding the poor with something like SNAP, food stamps? He would want to eliminate it. Like a certain political party. And giving money, charity, to unemployed people? Unimaginable. And providing health care to people? How dare they propose something so unchristian. Wow.
> > >
> > > Now regarding arguing with a fool. I would disagree it is an argument.. Tom just states very obvious lies. And I and many others simply provide facts. Is that an argument? Arguments usually have sides that take up different positions and then provide facts or relevant material to support their side of the argument. He who has the best, most persuasive support, wins. But Tom never ever supports his lies. He just lies and makes up nonsensical words. So I don't think anyone is arguing with Tom. Just correcting his lies and nonsense.
> > >
> > > Similar to someone who is 500 pounds and lays in bed all the time. He says he is skinny and athletic. You simply state the obvious and factually contradict his words. Is that an argument? I say no.
> > >
> > Nice conservative straw man you got there.
> > Beat him up again please.
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Muzi
> > <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> > Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >
> +1T
> Hey, man, they're winning. They're winning! They're winning. Of course they're winning. Who was it that said, "If you tell a lie often enough, someone will believe you." Josef Goebbels?
>
> Andre Jute
> Some monkeys are too old to learn when they're beaten, some have always been too stupid to learn.

After watching them over the last 10 years I have come to the conclusion that they aren't lying in the way that Goebbels meant. They want to believe their own political stance so badly no matter how insane it may be that they will literally BELIEVE what they're saying. To have blocked these people out is like having a bad tooth pulled.

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