In the past I've encountered a moose on the trail in Idaho and
alligators on the trail in Florida, and of course lots of deer in
California.

On Friday I was in San Ramon for a conference and afterward went for a
ride on the Iron Horse trail which follows an old railroad line
<https://www.ebparks.org/trails/interpark/iron-horse>.

Someone ran into a cow, literally. I saw the cow in time, I was on my
Dahon Speed TR and was going probably 10 MPH, and stopped, and yelled
"cow" to a woman who was riding pretty fast along the trail and passing
me on an eBike and obviously not paying attention.

She gave me the finger and plowed into the cow at about 15MPH. She was
shaken up but uninjured. Not sure about the cow though.

I should have yelled "watch out" or "stop" or something that could not
be misinterpreted. It's like yelling "on your left" when passing someone
and they move to the left, where it's better to say "passing you."

On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 12:48:48 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>Someone ran into a cow, literally. I saw the cow in time, I was on my
>Dahon Speed TR and was going probably 10 MPH, and stopped, and yelled
>"cow" to a woman who was riding pretty fast along the trail and passing
>me on an eBike and obviously not paying attention.

Hmmm... The average cow weighs about 1500 lbs. The average bicycle
plus rider about 150 lbs. If the bicycle is free from projections
that might impale the cow (i.e. bull bar), I would guess(tm) that the
bicycle would bounce off the cow. Equipping the cow with a padded and
armored bullet proof blanket would help, but adding a cow catcher to
the bicycle would probably be more effective on an eBike.
<https://www.mychurchgrowth.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/1895-Pennington-with-cow-catcher.jpg>

Or, get a Cow-A-Socky and join the herd:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=cow+a+socky&tbm=isch>

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> In the past I've encountered a moose on the trail in Idaho and
> alligators on the trail in Florida, and of course lots of deer in
> California.
>
> On Friday I was in San Ramon for a conference and afterward went for a
> ride on the Iron Horse trail which follows an old railroad line
> <https://www.ebparks.org/trails/interpark/iron-horse>.
>
> Someone ran into a cow, literally. I saw the cow in time, I was on my
> Dahon Speed TR and was going probably 10 MPH, and stopped, and yelled
> "cow" to a woman who was riding pretty fast along the trail and passing
> me on an eBike and obviously not paying attention.
>
> She gave me the finger and plowed into the cow at about 15MPH. She was
> shaken up but uninjured. Not sure about the cow though.
>
> I should have yelled "watch out" or "stop" or something that could not
> be misinterpreted. It's like yelling "on your left" when passing someone
> and they move to the left, where it's better to say "passing you."
>
>

That’s a pretty old joke, you know.

On 3/19/2022 4:02 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 12:48:48 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Someone ran into a cow, literally. I saw the cow in time, I was on my
>> Dahon Speed TR and was going probably 10 MPH, and stopped, and yelled
>> "cow" to a woman who was riding pretty fast along the trail and passing
>> me on an eBike and obviously not paying attention.
>
> Hmmm... The average cow weighs about 1500 lbs. The average bicycle
> plus rider about 150 lbs. If the bicycle is free from projections
> that might impale the cow (i.e. bull bar), I would guess(tm) that the
> bicycle would bounce off the cow. Equipping the cow with a padded and
> armored bullet proof blanket would help, but adding a cow catcher to
> the bicycle would probably be more effective on an eBike.
> <https://www.mychurchgrowth.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/1895-Pennington-with-cow-catcher.jpg>
>
> Or, get a Cow-A-Socky and join the herd:
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=cow+a+socky&tbm=isch>
>

That's one angle of analysis.

I took from that one ought to hesitate before yelling 'cow'
at a woman no matter the exigencies. A raised finger is one
thing, but another woman may well raise those stakes.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 12:48:48 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>In the past I've encountered a moose on the trail in Idaho and
>alligators on the trail in Florida, and of course lots of deer in
>California.
>
>On Friday I was in San Ramon for a conference and afterward went for a
>ride on the Iron Horse trail which follows an old railroad line
><https://www.ebparks.org/trails/interpark/iron-horse>.
>
>Someone ran into a cow, literally. I saw the cow in time, I was on my
>Dahon Speed TR and was going probably 10 MPH, and stopped, and yelled
>"cow" to a woman who was riding pretty fast along the trail and passing
>me on an eBike and obviously not paying attention.
>
>She gave me the finger and plowed into the cow at about 15MPH. She was
>shaken up but uninjured. Not sure about the cow though.
>
>I should have yelled "watch out" or "stop" or something that could not
>be misinterpreted. It's like yelling "on your left" when passing someone
>and they move to the left, where it's better to say "passing you."

Not to disparage you but that seems extremely ?strange? to me. A cow,
the term applies to an adult bovine female standing, perhaps, 5 feet
tall and weighing, perhaps 500 lbs and a cyclist ran into it (her
actually).

I don't think y'all should be allowed out without your Mother to keep
you safe.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:48:20 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 3/19/2022 4:02 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 12:48:48 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Someone ran into a cow, literally. I saw the cow in time, I was on my
>>> Dahon Speed TR and was going probably 10 MPH, and stopped, and yelled
>>> "cow" to a woman who was riding pretty fast along the trail and passing
>>> me on an eBike and obviously not paying attention.
>>
>> Hmmm... The average cow weighs about 1500 lbs. The average bicycle
>> plus rider about 150 lbs. If the bicycle is free from projections
>> that might impale the cow (i.e. bull bar), I would guess(tm) that the
>> bicycle would bounce off the cow. Equipping the cow with a padded and
>> armored bullet proof blanket would help, but adding a cow catcher to
>> the bicycle would probably be more effective on an eBike.
>> <https://www.mychurchgrowth.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/1895-Pennington-with-cow-catcher.jpg>
>>
>> Or, get a Cow-A-Socky and join the herd:
>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=cow+a+socky&tbm=isch>

>That's one angle of analysis.
>
>I took from that one ought to hesitate before yelling 'cow'
>at a woman no matter the exigencies. A raised finger is one
>thing, but another woman may well raise those stakes.

That would have been the obvious interpretation. I thought about it
for a few milliseconds and realized that offering alternative phrases
to yell would have been rather dull. Taking the story at face value
and offering my usual unworkable solutions seemed like an improvement.
After a lifetime of disappointing experiences, I've learned to
hesitate, think, and carefully consider how I should address a woman.
Best to say nothing than to show symptoms of foot in mouth disease.

Also, at my age, raising my stake is a major achievement.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 18:23:47 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:48:20 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>>On 3/19/2022 4:02 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 12:48:48 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Someone ran into a cow, literally. I saw the cow in time, I was on my
>>>> Dahon Speed TR and was going probably 10 MPH, and stopped, and yelled
>>>> "cow" to a woman who was riding pretty fast along the trail and passing
>>>> me on an eBike and obviously not paying attention.
>>>
>>> Hmmm... The average cow weighs about 1500 lbs. The average bicycle
>>> plus rider about 150 lbs. If the bicycle is free from projections
>>> that might impale the cow (i.e. bull bar), I would guess(tm) that the
>>> bicycle would bounce off the cow. Equipping the cow with a padded and
>>> armored bullet proof blanket would help, but adding a cow catcher to
>>> the bicycle would probably be more effective on an eBike.
>>> <https://www.mychurchgrowth.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/1895-Pennington-with-cow-catcher.jpg>
>>>
>>> Or, get a Cow-A-Socky and join the herd:
>>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=cow+a+socky&tbm=isch>
>
>>That's one angle of analysis.
>>
>>I took from that one ought to hesitate before yelling 'cow'
>>at a woman no matter the exigencies. A raised finger is one
>>thing, but another woman may well raise those stakes.
>
>That would have been the obvious interpretation. I thought about it
>for a few milliseconds and realized that offering alternative phrases
>to yell would have been rather dull. Taking the story at face value
>and offering my usual unworkable solutions seemed like an improvement.
>After a lifetime of disappointing experiences, I've learned to
>hesitate, think, and carefully consider how I should address a woman.
>Best to say nothing than to show symptoms of foot in mouth disease.
>
>Also, at my age, raising my stake is a major achievement.

Good Lord! Warn a bicycle about running into a cow? Given the relative
sizes of a cyclist and a cow (assuming an actual cow) is a warning
really necessary?

But what would one shout? The woman apparently didn't like the term
"cow" and the other sex is "Bull!" which wouldn't worked well either.
The "third sex" is a steer and shouting "Steer! Steer! will probably
elicit the question "Steer where?" Perhaps "Calf! Calf!"?
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 09:07:46 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 18:23:47 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:48:20 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>
>>>On 3/19/2022 4:02 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 12:48:48 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Someone ran into a cow, literally. I saw the cow in time, I was on my
>>>>> Dahon Speed TR and was going probably 10 MPH, and stopped, and yelled
>>>>> "cow" to a woman who was riding pretty fast along the trail and passing
>>>>> me on an eBike and obviously not paying attention.
>>>>
>>>> Hmmm... The average cow weighs about 1500 lbs. The average bicycle
>>>> plus rider about 150 lbs. If the bicycle is free from projections
>>>> that might impale the cow (i.e. bull bar), I would guess(tm) that the
>>>> bicycle would bounce off the cow. Equipping the cow with a padded and
>>>> armored bullet proof blanket would help, but adding a cow catcher to
>>>> the bicycle would probably be more effective on an eBike.
>>>> <https://www.mychurchgrowth.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/1895-Pennington-with-cow-catcher.jpg>
>>>>
>>>> Or, get a Cow-A-Socky and join the herd:
>>>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=cow+a+socky&tbm=isch>
>>
>>>That's one angle of analysis.
>>>
>>>I took from that one ought to hesitate before yelling 'cow'
>>>at a woman no matter the exigencies. A raised finger is one
>>>thing, but another woman may well raise those stakes.
>>
>>That would have been the obvious interpretation. I thought about it
>>for a few milliseconds and realized that offering alternative phrases
>>to yell would have been rather dull. Taking the story at face value
>>and offering my usual unworkable solutions seemed like an improvement.
>>After a lifetime of disappointing experiences, I've learned to
>>hesitate, think, and carefully consider how I should address a woman.
>>Best to say nothing than to show symptoms of foot in mouth disease.
>>
>>Also, at my age, raising my stake is a major achievement.
>
>Good Lord! Warn a bicycle about running into a cow? Given the relative
>sizes of a cyclist and a cow (assuming an actual cow) is a warning
>really necessary?
>
>But what would one shout? The woman apparently didn't like the term
>"cow" and the other sex is "Bull!" which wouldn't worked well either.
>The "third sex" is a steer and shouting "Steer! Steer! will probably
>elicit the question "Steer where?" Perhaps "Calf! Calf!"?

As an amendment, if one shouts "Calf! Calf!" that might indicate that
you were looking at her legs (:-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 9:10:29 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 09:07:46 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 18:23:47 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:48:20 -0500, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>>On 3/19/2022 4:02 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> >>>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 12:48:48 -0700, sms <scharf...@geemail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Someone ran into a cow, literally. I saw the cow in time, I was on my
> >>>>> Dahon Speed TR and was going probably 10 MPH, and stopped, and yelled
> >>>>> "cow" to a woman who was riding pretty fast along the trail and passing
> >>>>> me on an eBike and obviously not paying attention.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hmmm... The average cow weighs about 1500 lbs. The average bicycle
> >>>> plus rider about 150 lbs. If the bicycle is free from projections
> >>>> that might impale the cow (i.e. bull bar), I would guess(tm) that the
> >>>> bicycle would bounce off the cow. Equipping the cow with a padded and
> >>>> armored bullet proof blanket would help, but adding a cow catcher to
> >>>> the bicycle would probably be more effective on an eBike.
> >>>> <https://www.mychurchgrowth.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/1895-Pennington-with-cow-catcher.jpg>
> >>>>
> >>>> Or, get a Cow-A-Socky and join the herd:
> >>>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=cow+a+socky&tbm=isch>
> >>
> >>>That's one angle of analysis.
> >>>
> >>>I took from that one ought to hesitate before yelling 'cow'
> >>>at a woman no matter the exigencies. A raised finger is one
> >>>thing, but another woman may well raise those stakes.
> >>
> >>That would have been the obvious interpretation. I thought about it
> >>for a few milliseconds and realized that offering alternative phrases
> >>to yell would have been rather dull. Taking the story at face value
> >>and offering my usual unworkable solutions seemed like an improvement.
> >>After a lifetime of disappointing experiences, I've learned to
> >>hesitate, think, and carefully consider how I should address a woman.
> >>Best to say nothing than to show symptoms of foot in mouth disease.
> >>
> >>Also, at my age, raising my stake is a major achievement.
> >
> >Good Lord! Warn a bicycle about running into a cow? Given the relative
> >sizes of a cyclist and a cow (assuming an actual cow) is a warning
> >really necessary?
> >
> >But what would one shout? The woman apparently didn't like the term
> >"cow" and the other sex is "Bull!" which wouldn't worked well either.
> >The "third sex" is a steer and shouting "Steer! Steer! will probably
> >elicit the question "Steer where?" Perhaps "Calf! Calf!"?
> As an amendment, if one shouts "Calf! Calf!" that might indicate that
> you were looking at her legs (:-)
> --
> Cheers,
>
> John B.

"Bovine" might be misinterpreted too I think.

Its a good thing I was not there. I might, might, might, might, have gone up to the woman after the crash, and broken off both her middle fingers. Just to be sure I got the one used against me.

On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 09:10:25 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
>As an amendment, if one shouts "Calf! Calf!" that might indicate that
>you were looking at her legs (:-)

Nope. This is California, where Calf is the state abrev.

Keep trying. We'll eventually find a socially acceptable, politically
correct, gender neutral, non-discriminatory, kosher, USDA approved and
R.B.T. accepted warning. Since 39% of California is Hispanic-Latino,
yelling "vaca" should work 39% of the time. Yelling "lawsuit ahead"
should get everyone's attention.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:48:20 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>
>> On 3/19/2022 4:02 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 12:48:48 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Someone ran into a cow, literally. I saw the cow in time, I was on my
>>>> Dahon Speed TR and was going probably 10 MPH, and stopped, and yelled
>>>> "cow" to a woman who was riding pretty fast along the trail and passing
>>>> me on an eBike and obviously not paying attention.
>>>
>>> Hmmm... The average cow weighs about 1500 lbs. The average bicycle
>>> plus rider about 150 lbs. If the bicycle is free from projections
>>> that might impale the cow (i.e. bull bar), I would guess(tm) that the
>>> bicycle would bounce off the cow. Equipping the cow with a padded and
>>> armored bullet proof blanket would help, but adding a cow catcher to
>>> the bicycle would probably be more effective on an eBike.
>>> <https://www.mychurchgrowth.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/1895-Pennington-with-cow-catcher.jpg>
>>>
>>> Or, get a Cow-A-Socky and join the herd:
>>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=cow+a+socky&tbm=isch>
>
>> That's one angle of analysis.
>>
>> I took from that one ought to hesitate before yelling 'cow'
>> at a woman no matter the exigencies. A raised finger is one
>> thing, but another woman may well raise those stakes.
>
> That would have been the obvious interpretation. I thought about it
> for a few milliseconds and realized that offering alternative phrases
> to yell would have been rather dull. Taking the story at face value
> and offering my usual unworkable solutions seemed like an improvement.
> After a lifetime of disappointing experiences, I've learned to
> hesitate, think, and carefully consider how I should address a woman.
> Best to say nothing than to show symptoms of foot in mouth disease.
>
> Also, at my age, raising my stake is a major achievement.
>
>

Sharf’s post was a three year old joke.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/bmya51/i_yelled_cow_at_a_woman_on_a_bike/

sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
> In the past I've encountered a moose on the trail in Idaho and
> alligators on the trail in Florida, and of course lots of deer in
> California.
>
> On Friday I was in San Ramon for a conference and afterward went for a
> ride on the Iron Horse trail which follows an old railroad line
> <https://www.ebparks.org/trails/interpark/iron-horse>.
>
> Someone ran into a cow, literally. I saw the cow in time, I was on my
> Dahon Speed TR and was going probably 10 MPH, and stopped, and yelled
> "cow" to a woman who was riding pretty fast along the trail and passing
> me on an eBike and obviously not paying attention.
>
> She gave me the finger and plowed into the cow at about 15MPH. She was
> shaken up but uninjured. Not sure about the cow though.
>
> I should have yelled "watch out" or "stop" or something that could not
> be misinterpreted. It's like yelling "on your left" when passing someone
> and they move to the left, where it's better to say "passing you."
>
>
One of my colleagues managed to ride into a deer at night, royal parks so
deer are fairly calm.

Described it as riding into a wall with a wet rug attached!

Roger Merriman

On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 21:49:17 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 09:10:25 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>As an amendment, if one shouts "Calf! Calf!" that might indicate that
>>you were looking at her legs (:-)
>
>Nope. This is California, where Calf is the state abrev.
>
>Keep trying. We'll eventually find a socially acceptable, politically
>correct, gender neutral, non-discriminatory, kosher, USDA approved and
>R.B.T. accepted warning. Since 39% of California is Hispanic-Latino,
>yelling "vaca" should work 39% of the time. Yelling "lawsuit ahead"
>should get everyone's attention.

Suit! Suit! I'm going to suit you if you don't scoot (:-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 21:43:29 -0700 (PDT), "russellseaton1@yahoo.com"
<ritzannaseaton@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 9:10:29 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 09:07:46 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 18:23:47 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:48:20 -0500, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On 3/19/2022 4:02 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> >>>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 12:48:48 -0700, sms <scharf...@geemail.com>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Someone ran into a cow, literally. I saw the cow in time, I was on my
>> >>>>> Dahon Speed TR and was going probably 10 MPH, and stopped, and yelled
>> >>>>> "cow" to a woman who was riding pretty fast along the trail and passing
>> >>>>> me on an eBike and obviously not paying attention.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Hmmm... The average cow weighs about 1500 lbs. The average bicycle
>> >>>> plus rider about 150 lbs. If the bicycle is free from projections
>> >>>> that might impale the cow (i.e. bull bar), I would guess(tm) that the
>> >>>> bicycle would bounce off the cow. Equipping the cow with a padded and
>> >>>> armored bullet proof blanket would help, but adding a cow catcher to
>> >>>> the bicycle would probably be more effective on an eBike.
>> >>>> <https://www.mychurchgrowth.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/1895-Pennington-with-cow-catcher.jpg>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Or, get a Cow-A-Socky and join the herd:
>> >>>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=cow+a+socky&tbm=isch>
>> >>
>> >>>That's one angle of analysis.
>> >>>
>> >>>I took from that one ought to hesitate before yelling 'cow'
>> >>>at a woman no matter the exigencies. A raised finger is one
>> >>>thing, but another woman may well raise those stakes.
>> >>
>> >>That would have been the obvious interpretation. I thought about it
>> >>for a few milliseconds and realized that offering alternative phrases
>> >>to yell would have been rather dull. Taking the story at face value
>> >>and offering my usual unworkable solutions seemed like an improvement.
>> >>After a lifetime of disappointing experiences, I've learned to
>> >>hesitate, think, and carefully consider how I should address a woman.
>> >>Best to say nothing than to show symptoms of foot in mouth disease.
>> >>
>> >>Also, at my age, raising my stake is a major achievement.
>> >
>> >Good Lord! Warn a bicycle about running into a cow? Given the relative
>> >sizes of a cyclist and a cow (assuming an actual cow) is a warning
>> >really necessary?
>> >
>> >But what would one shout? The woman apparently didn't like the term
>> >"cow" and the other sex is "Bull!" which wouldn't worked well either.
>> >The "third sex" is a steer and shouting "Steer! Steer! will probably
>> >elicit the question "Steer where?" Perhaps "Calf! Calf!"?
>> As an amendment, if one shouts "Calf! Calf!" that might indicate that
>> you were looking at her legs (:-)
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John B.
>
>"Bovine" might be misinterpreted too I think.
>
>Its a good thing I was not there. I might, might, might, might, have gone up to the woman after the crash, and broken off both her middle fingers. Just to be sure I got the one used against me.

Well here you probably wouldn't be bumping into a cow. Here it might
be a elephant. Can you holler "Elephant! Elephant! at a woman?
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 10:47:33 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:
> Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 17:48:20 -0500, AMuzi <a...@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 3/19/2022 4:02 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> >>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 12:48:48 -0700, sms <scharf...@geemail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Someone ran into a cow, literally. I saw the cow in time, I was on my
> >>>> Dahon Speed TR and was going probably 10 MPH, and stopped, and yelled
> >>>> "cow" to a woman who was riding pretty fast along the trail and passing
> >>>> me on an eBike and obviously not paying attention.
> >>>
> >>> Hmmm... The average cow weighs about 1500 lbs. The average bicycle
> >>> plus rider about 150 lbs. If the bicycle is free from projections
> >>> that might impale the cow (i.e. bull bar), I would guess(tm) that the
> >>> bicycle would bounce off the cow. Equipping the cow with a padded and
> >>> armored bullet proof blanket would help, but adding a cow catcher to
> >>> the bicycle would probably be more effective on an eBike.
> >>> <https://www.mychurchgrowth.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/1895-Pennington-with-cow-catcher.jpg>
> >>>
> >>> Or, get a Cow-A-Socky and join the herd:
> >>> <https://www.google.com/search?q=cow+a+socky&tbm=isch>
> >
> >> That's one angle of analysis.
> >>
> >> I took from that one ought to hesitate before yelling 'cow'
> >> at a woman no matter the exigencies. A raised finger is one
> >> thing, but another woman may well raise those stakes.
> >
> > That would have been the obvious interpretation. I thought about it
> > for a few milliseconds and realized that offering alternative phrases
> > to yell would have been rather dull. Taking the story at face value
> > and offering my usual unworkable solutions seemed like an improvement.
> > After a lifetime of disappointing experiences, I've learned to
> > hesitate, think, and carefully consider how I should address a woman.
> > Best to say nothing than to show symptoms of foot in mouth disease.
> >
> > Also, at my age, raising my stake is a major achievement.
> >
> >
> Sharf’s post was a three year old joke.
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/bmya51/i_yelled_cow_at_a_woman_on_a_bike/
I want you to imagine Scharf riding a bike. Is it any wonder he has to publish jokes from someone else? The closest he's come to a bike in his life was when he was 12.

On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:19:17 AM UTC-7, Roger Merriman wrote:
> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > In the past I've encountered a moose on the trail in Idaho and
> > alligators on the trail in Florida, and of course lots of deer in
> > California.
> >
> > On Friday I was in San Ramon for a conference and afterward went for a
> > ride on the Iron Horse trail which follows an old railroad line
> > <https://www.ebparks.org/trails/interpark/iron-horse>.
> >
> > Someone ran into a cow, literally. I saw the cow in time, I was on my
> > Dahon Speed TR and was going probably 10 MPH, and stopped, and yelled
> > "cow" to a woman who was riding pretty fast along the trail and passing
> > me on an eBike and obviously not paying attention.
> >
> > She gave me the finger and plowed into the cow at about 15MPH. She was
> > shaken up but uninjured. Not sure about the cow though.
> >
> > I should have yelled "watch out" or "stop" or something that could not
> > be misinterpreted. It's like yelling "on your left" when passing someone
> > and they move to the left, where it's better to say "passing you."
> >
> >
> One of my colleagues managed to ride into a deer at night, royal parks so
> deer are fairly calm.
>
> Described it as riding into a wall with a wet rug attached!

Actual deer in the wild are hardly calm. And you sure as hell don't want to even look like you're going to ride into a Buck. I had one close encounter and that was far more than enough.

On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 08:31:42 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 10:47:33 PM UTC-7, Ralph Barone wrote:

>> Sharf’s post was a three year old joke.
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/bmya51/i_yelled_cow_at_a_woman_on_a_bike/

>I want you to imagine Scharf riding a bike. Is it any wonder he has to publish jokes from someone else? The closest he's come to a bike in his life was when he was 12.

Good observation. Almost everyone posting in R.B.T. has posted at
least one joke or other form of humor. The notable exception is you,
Tom. Perhaps it will help you appear to be more human and less of a
curmudgeon if you would follow your own advice and make an attempt at
providing some original humor. I'm not a huge fan of jokes based on
word misinterpretations[1], but these have their proponents. If
you're going to write something original, I would prefer real (not
contrived) humorous situations, preferably where nobody was hurt. Such
stories should be easy for you to produce. I've read some of your
daily bicycle travelogues, which tend to sound like one mechanical
disaster or failure after another, none of which are your fault.
Surely, something humorous must have happened during your numerous
rides?

[1] Puns really are the lowest form of humor.
<http://www.theseniortimes.com/word-nerd-ode-to-the-pun-the-lowest-form-of-humour/>

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PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:19:17 AM UTC-7, Roger Merriman wrote:
>> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
>>> In the past I've encountered a moose on the trail in Idaho and
>>> alligators on the trail in Florida, and of course lots of deer in
>>> California.
>>>
>>> On Friday I was in San Ramon for a conference and afterward went for a
>>> ride on the Iron Horse trail which follows an old railroad line
>>> <https://www.ebparks.org/trails/interpark/iron-horse>.
>>>
>>> Someone ran into a cow, literally. I saw the cow in time, I was on my
>>> Dahon Speed TR and was going probably 10 MPH, and stopped, and yelled
>>> "cow" to a woman who was riding pretty fast along the trail and passing
>>> me on an eBike and obviously not paying attention.
>>>
>>> She gave me the finger and plowed into the cow at about 15MPH. She was
>>> shaken up but uninjured. Not sure about the cow though.
>>>
>>> I should have yelled "watch out" or "stop" or something that could not
>>> be misinterpreted. It's like yelling "on your left" when passing someone
>>> and they move to the left, where it's better to say "passing you."
>>>
>>>
>> One of my colleagues managed to ride into a deer at night, royal parks so
>> deer are fairly calm.
>>
>> Described it as riding into a wall with a wet rug attached!
>
> Actual deer in the wild are hardly calm. And you sure as hell don't want
> to even look like you're going to ride into a Buck. I had one close
> encounter and that was far more than enough.
>
In fairness the royal deer are wild just they are used to folks, so will
tolerate people within reason ie can’t go up to them, and they will and do
kill occasionally dogs if folks don’t control them, it’s a mix of Red deer
which are fairly large things and Fallow which are smaller. Since the parks
are old hunting parks, hence their size.

Out in the woods, do see deer occasionally though only fleetingly.

About the rarest for myself is the Muntjac which I see just now and again.

Roger Merriman

On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 21:27:26 -0000 (UTC), Roger Merriman
<roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

>Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:19:17 AM UTC-7, Roger Merriman wrote:
>>> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
>>>> In the past I've encountered a moose on the trail in Idaho and
>>>> alligators on the trail in Florida, and of course lots of deer in
>>>> California.
>>>>
>>>> On Friday I was in San Ramon for a conference and afterward went for a
>>>> ride on the Iron Horse trail which follows an old railroad line
>>>> <https://www.ebparks.org/trails/interpark/iron-horse>.
>>>>
>>>> Someone ran into a cow, literally. I saw the cow in time, I was on my
>>>> Dahon Speed TR and was going probably 10 MPH, and stopped, and yelled
>>>> "cow" to a woman who was riding pretty fast along the trail and passing
>>>> me on an eBike and obviously not paying attention.
>>>>
>>>> She gave me the finger and plowed into the cow at about 15MPH. She was
>>>> shaken up but uninjured. Not sure about the cow though.
>>>>
>>>> I should have yelled "watch out" or "stop" or something that could not
>>>> be misinterpreted. It's like yelling "on your left" when passing someone
>>>> and they move to the left, where it's better to say "passing you."
>>>>
>>>>
>>> One of my colleagues managed to ride into a deer at night, royal parks so
>>> deer are fairly calm.
>>>
>>> Described it as riding into a wall with a wet rug attached!
>>
>> Actual deer in the wild are hardly calm. And you sure as hell don't want
>> to even look like you're going to ride into a Buck. I had one close
>> encounter and that was far more than enough.
>>
>In fairness the royal deer are wild just they are used to folks, so will
>tolerate people within reason ie can’t go up to them, and they will and do
>kill occasionally dogs if folks don’t control them, it’s a mix of Red deer
>which are fairly large things and Fallow which are smaller. Since the parks
>are old hunting parks, hence their size.
>
>Out in the woods, do see deer occasionally though only fleetingly.
>
>About the rarest for myself is the Muntjac which I see just now and again.
>
>Roger Merriman

Royal Deer? Is one required to say something like. "Pardon. My Lord"
before running into them?

(see Jeff, humor even in "word play" (:-)
--
Cheers,

John B.

On 3/20/2022 5:42 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 21:27:26 -0000 (UTC), Roger Merriman
> <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
>
>> Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:19:17 AM UTC-7, Roger Merriman wrote:
>>>> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
>>>>> In the past I've encountered a moose on the trail in Idaho and
>>>>> alligators on the trail in Florida, and of course lots of deer in
>>>>> California.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday I was in San Ramon for a conference and afterward went for a
>>>>> ride on the Iron Horse trail which follows an old railroad line
>>>>> <https://www.ebparks.org/trails/interpark/iron-horse>.
>>>>>
>>>>> Someone ran into a cow, literally. I saw the cow in time, I was on my
>>>>> Dahon Speed TR and was going probably 10 MPH, and stopped, and yelled
>>>>> "cow" to a woman who was riding pretty fast along the trail and passing
>>>>> me on an eBike and obviously not paying attention.
>>>>>
>>>>> She gave me the finger and plowed into the cow at about 15MPH. She was
>>>>> shaken up but uninjured. Not sure about the cow though.
>>>>>
>>>>> I should have yelled "watch out" or "stop" or something that could not
>>>>> be misinterpreted. It's like yelling "on your left" when passing someone
>>>>> and they move to the left, where it's better to say "passing you."
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> One of my colleagues managed to ride into a deer at night, royal parks so
>>>> deer are fairly calm.
>>>>
>>>> Described it as riding into a wall with a wet rug attached!
>>>
>>> Actual deer in the wild are hardly calm. And you sure as hell don't want
>>> to even look like you're going to ride into a Buck. I had one close
>>> encounter and that was far more than enough.
>>>
>> In fairness the royal deer are wild just they are used to folks, so will
>> tolerate people within reason ie can’t go up to them, and they will and do
>> kill occasionally dogs if folks don’t control them, it’s a mix of Red deer
>> which are fairly large things and Fallow which are smaller. Since the parks
>> are old hunting parks, hence their size.
>>
>> Out in the woods, do see deer occasionally though only fleetingly.
>>
>> About the rarest for myself is the Muntjac which I see just now and again.
>>
>> Roger Merriman
>
> Royal Deer? Is one required to say something like. "Pardon. My Lord"
> before running into them?
>
> (see Jeff, humor even in "word play" (:-)
>

Why not royal deer? The Crown owns 'the swans upon the waters'.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 19:22:15 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 3/20/2022 5:42 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 21:27:26 -0000 (UTC), Roger Merriman
>> <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:19:17 AM UTC-7, Roger Merriman wrote:
>>>>> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In the past I've encountered a moose on the trail in Idaho and
>>>>>> alligators on the trail in Florida, and of course lots of deer in
>>>>>> California.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday I was in San Ramon for a conference and afterward went for a
>>>>>> ride on the Iron Horse trail which follows an old railroad line
>>>>>> <https://www.ebparks.org/trails/interpark/iron-horse>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone ran into a cow, literally. I saw the cow in time, I was on my
>>>>>> Dahon Speed TR and was going probably 10 MPH, and stopped, and yelled
>>>>>> "cow" to a woman who was riding pretty fast along the trail and passing
>>>>>> me on an eBike and obviously not paying attention.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She gave me the finger and plowed into the cow at about 15MPH. She was
>>>>>> shaken up but uninjured. Not sure about the cow though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I should have yelled "watch out" or "stop" or something that could not
>>>>>> be misinterpreted. It's like yelling "on your left" when passing someone
>>>>>> and they move to the left, where it's better to say "passing you."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> One of my colleagues managed to ride into a deer at night, royal parks so
>>>>> deer are fairly calm.
>>>>>
>>>>> Described it as riding into a wall with a wet rug attached!
>>>>
>>>> Actual deer in the wild are hardly calm. And you sure as hell don't want
>>>> to even look like you're going to ride into a Buck. I had one close
>>>> encounter and that was far more than enough.
>>>>
>>> In fairness the royal deer are wild just they are used to folks, so will
>>> tolerate people within reason ie can’t go up to them, and they will and do
>>> kill occasionally dogs if folks don’t control them, it’s a mix of Red deer
>>> which are fairly large things and Fallow which are smaller. Since the parks
>>> are old hunting parks, hence their size.
>>>
>>> Out in the woods, do see deer occasionally though only fleetingly.
>>>
>>> About the rarest for myself is the Muntjac which I see just now and again.
>>>
>>> Roger Merriman
>>
>> Royal Deer? Is one required to say something like. "Pardon. My Lord"
>> before running into them?
>>
>> (see Jeff, humor even in "word play" (:-)
>>
>
>Why not royal deer? The Crown owns 'the swans upon the waters'.

Royal... Royalty... individuals who are Royal... as in King, Queen,
etc.
(see Jeff, humor even in "word play" (:-)

Could equally apply to money as in "royalty paid" which is the USian
version of nobility.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 09:12:39 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:
>Royal... Royalty... individuals who are Royal... as in King, Queen,
>etc.
>(see Jeff, humor even in "word play" (:-)

Sometimes, you are a royal pain.
<https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/royal_pain>

>Could equally apply to money as in "royalty paid" which is the USian
>version of nobility.

I should charge royalties for the use of my original jokes.
<https://sloth.hell.pl/~szymon/archiwalia/humor/computer_nightmares.txt>

Various Royal bicycles:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=royal+bicycle>

It does help to have royalty on your side:
<https://www.royal.uk/duke-edinburgh-opens-new-bicycle-factory>

Hmmm... no royal warrants for bicycles. Looks more like an
endorsement factory:
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Royal_Warrant_holders_of_the_British_royal_family>

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 21:33:29 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 09:12:39 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>Royal... Royalty... individuals who are Royal... as in King, Queen,
>>etc.
>>(see Jeff, humor even in "word play" (:-)
>
>Sometimes, you are a royal pain.
><https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/royal_pain>
>
>>Could equally apply to money as in "royalty paid" which is the USian
>>version of nobility.
>
>I should charge royalties for the use of my original jokes.
><https://sloth.hell.pl/~szymon/archiwalia/humor/computer_nightmares.txt>
>
>Various Royal bicycles:
><https://www.google.com/search?q=royal+bicycle>
>
>It does help to have royalty on your side:
><https://www.royal.uk/duke-edinburgh-opens-new-bicycle-factory>
>
>Hmmm... no royal warrants for bicycles. Looks more like an
>endorsement factory:
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Royal_Warrant_holders_of_the_British_royal_family>

Of course. That is exactly what it is.

One can only speculate which is more effective. A Royal Warrant From
The Queen of England? Or an endorsement by Cher?
--
Cheers,

John B.

AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> On 3/20/2022 5:42 PM, John B. wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Mar 2022 21:27:26 -0000 (UTC), Roger Merriman
>> <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:19:17 AM UTC-7, Roger Merriman wrote:
>>>>> sms <scharf...@geemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> In the past I've encountered a moose on the trail in Idaho and
>>>>>> alligators on the trail in Florida, and of course lots of deer in
>>>>>> California.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday I was in San Ramon for a conference and afterward went for a
>>>>>> ride on the Iron Horse trail which follows an old railroad line
>>>>>> <https://www.ebparks.org/trails/interpark/iron-horse>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone ran into a cow, literally. I saw the cow in time, I was on my
>>>>>> Dahon Speed TR and was going probably 10 MPH, and stopped, and yelled
>>>>>> "cow" to a woman who was riding pretty fast along the trail and passing
>>>>>> me on an eBike and obviously not paying attention.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She gave me the finger and plowed into the cow at about 15MPH. She was
>>>>>> shaken up but uninjured. Not sure about the cow though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I should have yelled "watch out" or "stop" or something that could not
>>>>>> be misinterpreted. It's like yelling "on your left" when passing someone
>>>>>> and they move to the left, where it's better to say "passing you."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> One of my colleagues managed to ride into a deer at night, royal parks so
>>>>> deer are fairly calm.
>>>>>
>>>>> Described it as riding into a wall with a wet rug attached!
>>>>
>>>> Actual deer in the wild are hardly calm. And you sure as hell don't want
>>>> to even look like you're going to ride into a Buck. I had one close
>>>> encounter and that was far more than enough.
>>>>
>>> In fairness the royal deer are wild just they are used to folks, so will
>>> tolerate people within reason ie can’t go up to them, and they will and do
>>> kill occasionally dogs if folks don’t control them, it’s a mix of Red deer
>>> which are fairly large things and Fallow which are smaller. Since the parks
>>> are old hunting parks, hence their size.
>>>
>>> Out in the woods, do see deer occasionally though only fleetingly.
>>>
>>> About the rarest for myself is the Muntjac which I see just now and again.
>>>
>>> Roger Merriman
>>
>> Royal Deer? Is one required to say something like. "Pardon. My Lord"
>> before running into them?
>>
>> (see Jeff, humor even in "word play" (:-)
>>
>
> Why not royal deer? The Crown owns 'the swans upon the waters'.
>
In the medieval period, only the king could hunt deer, others could be
invited to hunt with him, and was a few who where allowed to have Forrest’s
ie hunting areas.

Roger Merriman

On 3/20/2022 11:33 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 09:12:39 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Royal... Royalty... individuals who are Royal... as in King, Queen,
>> etc.
>> (see Jeff, humor even in "word play" (:-)
>
> Sometimes, you are a royal pain.
> <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/royal_pain>
>
>> Could equally apply to money as in "royalty paid" which is the USian
>> version of nobility.
>
> I should charge royalties for the use of my original jokes.
> <https://sloth.hell.pl/~szymon/archiwalia/humor/computer_nightmares.txt>
>
> Various Royal bicycles:
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=royal+bicycle>
>
> It does help to have royalty on your side:
> <https://www.royal.uk/duke-edinburgh-opens-new-bicycle-factory>
>
> Hmmm... no royal warrants for bicycles. Looks more like an
> endorsement factory:
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Royal_Warrant_holders_of_the_British_royal_family>

> Hmmm... no royal warrants for bicycles.

Right.
Raleigh Industries did receive The Queen's Award to Industry
for the Raleigh Self Adjusting Brake.
--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971