https://freewestmedia.com/2022/03/28/in-march-three-cyclists-suffer-heart-attacks-two-die/

On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:28:12 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> https://freewestmedia.com/2022/03/28/in-march-three-cyclists-suffer-heart-attacks-two-die/

https://newsrescue.com/leaked-documents-from-dod-database-show-us-military-illness-skyrocketing-from-covid-jab-viral-video/
https://peckford42.wordpress.com/2021/08/20/vaccine-deaths-pile-up-without-media-coverage/

On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:40:08 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:28:12 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > https://freewestmedia.com/2022/03/28/in-march-three-cyclists-suffer-heart-attacks-two-die/
>
> https://newsrescue.com/leaked-documents-from-dod-database-show-us-military-illness-skyrocketing-from-covid-jab-viral-video/
> https://peckford42.wordpress.com/2021/08/20/vaccine-deaths-pile-up-without-media-coverage/
How long before you get sudden symptoms?

On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 4:55:26 PM UTC-7, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 1:40:08 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:28:12 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > https://freewestmedia.com/2022/03/28/in-march-three-cyclists-suffer-heart-attacks-two-die/
> >
> > https://newsrescue.com/leaked-documents-from-dod-database-show-us-military-illness-skyrocketing-from-covid-jab-viral-video/
> > https://peckford42.wordpress.com/2021/08/20/vaccine-deaths-pile-up-without-media-coverage/
> Tommy, Tommy, Tommy. I, and many people on this forum have repeatedly warned you about using unreliable, biased, right wing, Qanon, sources for your information. Yet you fail to learn. Why can't you learn? Do you have mental deficiencies?
>
> https://freewestmedia.com/about/
> Do you see any slant to this source?
>
> https://newsrescue.com/about-us/
> "Support NewsRescue
> Filtering the news daily and keeping this archive of real news in today’s controlled world, is an arduous and unimaginably tough process. We appreciate your support. Email us for more support options."
> Notice any bias here?
Russell, you don't have a lot of friends in the silent majority here. Most of them remember that I have actually shown the lies of covid deaths from the CDC's own researchers and you somehow cannot remember.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

Scroll down the page to "Options" and "Select a Dashboard" Go across the section and mark "Weekly Number of Deaths by Cause Subgroup" and hit the "Update Dashboard" button.

Below this will be charts. Anyone capable of reading a chart could simply look under "Respiratory Diseases" which is what covid-19 is and see a SMALL number of excess deaths peaking in April 4, 2020. Before and after that time Respiratory deaths were normal or below normal. In 2022 they are FAR below normal as beginning in 2021, people began exercising and taking better care of their diets etc. leading to better health. In 2022 respiratory deaths are FAR below normal.

Also you can see that most of the excess deaths were from Circulatory Diseases. Why was that? Because people put out of work worry about how they are going to make ends meet and a very large sector of the US was put out of work by Fauci's lockdowns and then mask mandates. Their response was to start using drugs or becoming alcoholics which are a leading cause of circulatory diseases Especially opiates.

The lockdowns also increased the numbers of dementia deaths as loved ones stopped coming to see their dying family members in old age homes since the lockdowns prevented this.

I have also explained how the Fauci portion of the CDC logged so many deaths.
1. The DHHS offered $50,000 per head to report a covid death. How was this determined? By using PCR as a diagnostic tool which it was NEVER designed to be. They are still doing this. Since I am the one that automated that process I know that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXm9kAhNj-4
2. That sort of money (a million x $50,000 = $50 Billion) was enough to corrupt almost every hospital administrator and THAT is where those numbers came from. Using a PCR with 40 cycles is a Trillion times multiplication of any possible SIMILAR virus.

When you WANT to think something you're going to. Just like you honestly believed that an N95 operating room mask with 200 nanometer breathing pores could stop a 30 nanometer virus. Virtually every honest study since 1918 that tested the effectiveness of masks said that they could not even work well with bacteria let alone a virus but people are still wearing those blue paper masks that are designed to keep nurses from coughing sputum onto a sick patient. Or worse yet: as cloth mask that is as effective as a screen door..

When you try to tell someone that spent the majority of their life actually working in science that you know more about it than you do, expect people to not have a very high opinion of you.

On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 4:55:26 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 1:40:08 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:28:12 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > https://freewestmedia.com/2022/03/28/in-march-three-cyclists-suffer-heart-attacks-two-die/
> > >
> > > https://newsrescue.com/leaked-documents-from-dod-database-show-us-military-illness-skyrocketing-from-covid-jab-viral-video/
> > > https://peckford42.wordpress.com/2021/08/20/vaccine-deaths-pile-up-without-media-coverage/
> > Tommy, Tommy, Tommy. I, and many people on this forum have repeatedly warned you about using unreliable, biased, right wing, Qanon, sources for your information. Yet you fail to learn. Why can't you learn? Do you have mental deficiencies?
> >
> > https://freewestmedia.com/about/
> > Do you see any slant to this source?
> >
> > https://newsrescue.com/about-us/
> > "Support NewsRescue
> > Filtering the news daily and keeping this archive of real news in today’s controlled world, is an arduous and unimaginably tough process. We appreciate your support. Email us for more support options."
> > Notice any bias here?
> Russell, you don't have a lot of friends in the silent majority here. Most of them remember that I have actually shown the lies of covid deaths from the CDC's own researchers and you somehow cannot remember.
>
> https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
>
> Scroll down the page to "Options" and "Select a Dashboard" Go across the section and mark "Weekly Number of Deaths by Cause Subgroup" and hit the "Update Dashboard" button.
>
> Below this will be charts. Anyone capable of reading a chart could simply look under "Respiratory Diseases" which is what covid-19 is and see a SMALL number of excess deaths peaking in April 4, 2020. Before and after that time Respiratory deaths were normal or below normal. In 2022 they are FAR below normal as beginning in 2021, people began exercising and taking better care of their diets etc. leading to better health. In 2022 respiratory deaths are FAR below normal.
>
> Also you can see that most of the excess deaths were from Circulatory Diseases. Why was that? Because people put out of work worry about how they are going to make ends meet and a very large sector of the US was put out of work by Fauci's lockdowns and then mask mandates. Their response was to start using drugs or becoming alcoholics which are a leading cause of circulatory diseases Especially opiates.
>
> The lockdowns also increased the numbers of dementia deaths as loved ones stopped coming to see their dying family members in old age homes since the lockdowns prevented this.
>
> I have also explained how the Fauci portion of the CDC logged so many deaths.
> 1. The DHHS offered $50,000 per head to report a covid death. How was this determined? By using PCR as a diagnostic tool which it was NEVER designed to be. They are still doing this. Since I am the one that automated that process I know that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXm9kAhNj-4
> 2. That sort of money (a million x $50,000 = $50 Billion) was enough to corrupt almost every hospital administrator and THAT is where those numbers came from. Using a PCR with 40 cycles is a Trillion times multiplication of any possible SIMILAR virus.
>
> When you WANT to think something you're going to. Just like you honestly believed that an N95 operating room mask with 200 nanometer breathing pores could stop a 30 nanometer virus. Virtually every honest study since 1918 that tested the effectiveness of masks said that they could not even work well with bacteria let alone a virus but people are still wearing those blue paper masks that are designed to keep nurses from coughing sputum onto a sick patient. Or worse yet: as cloth mask that is as effective as a screen door.
>
> When you try to tell someone that spent the majority of their life actually working in science that you know more about it than you do, expect people to not have a very high opinion of you.

Just so you understand what I'm saying - the CDC themselves show that only some 20,000 people died from covid-19 Delta variation. You have been played from Day One when Fauci announced in 2016 that there WOULD be a pandemic during the Trump Presidency.

But are you going to get angry at the Democrats for the purposeful destruction of the American economy as Obama started? No, you're going to say that I don't know what I'm talking about. This is why the silent majority here do NOT like you or Frank or Flunky or John and most can only stand SMS because he has lost every election since he showed everyone in Los Gatos what he is.

On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 11:28:10 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>https://freewestmedia.com/2022/03/28/in-march-three-cyclists-suffer-heart-attacks-two-die/

<https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/free-west-media/>
"Overall, we rate Free West Media Right-Biased and Questionable based
on the promotion of conspiracies, propaganda and the use of poor
sources, and a lack of transparency."

"A history of professional cyclists who died from heart attacks"
<https://cyclingmagazine.ca/sections/news/a-history-of-professional-cyclists-who-died-from-heart-attacks/>
"The list of young and seemingly healthy cyclists who tragically
succumbed to heart attacks, however, is much longer than you’d think."

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 7:25:38 PM UTC-7, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
> "A history of professional cyclists who died from heart attacks"
> <https://cyclingmagazine.ca/sections/news/a-history-of-professional-cyclists-who-died-from-heart-attacks/>
> "The list of young and seemingly healthy cyclists who tragically
> succumbed to heart attacks, however, is much longer than you’d think."

That just proves that COVID vaccines are far, far deadlier than anyone could have imagined!
They are so deadly they have killed cyclists as far back as 1967, long before they were even
invented!

Who was the president who fast tracked the development of those horrendous poisons?
He should be in prison! Lock him up!

- Frank Krygowski

Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 11:28:10 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich wrote:
>
>> https://freewestmedia.com/2022/03/28/in-march-three-cyclists-suffer-heart-attacks-two-die/

Increased instances in 2020/2021 might have coincided with lockdowns and
irregular training schedules, but not 2022. This March, though, some
areas of Europe did experience exceptionally long periods of fine Sahara
dust blowing across the Mediterranean. Not something a tough, aspiring
young athlete would start whining about to his peers, but I'd check for
correlations with the low air quality before someone smarter than Jeff's
idiotical fact-checker sites does.

> "A history of professional cyclists who died from heart attacks"
> <https://cyclingmagazine.ca/sections/news/a-history-of-professional-cyclists-who-died-from-heart-attacks/>

If you trust cyclingmagazine.ca's superficial "statistic," Jeff, why
don't you go paint a hockey-stick graph with that data, and the two
instances in March?

> "The list of young and seemingly healthy cyclists who tragically
> succumbed to heart attacks, however, is much longer than you’d think."

Just read what you quoted! Cyclingmagazine.ca supposes we don't know
about the long history of underdiagnosed heart conditions and widespread
"substance trials" associated with young cyclist racers' deaths, and
tear-jerkingly calls them all tragical. Cyclingmagazine.ca must have
done a lousy job of keeping their dope-roadie fanboy readership informed!

On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 2:50:27 AM UTC-4, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> acknowledge all the wonderful things Joe is doing for America. MAHA = Make America Healthy Again.

LOL....+1!!!!

On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 6:22:46 AM UTC-4, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> > On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 11:28:10 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich wrote:
> >
> >> https://freewestmedia.com/2022/03/28/in-march-three-cyclists-suffer-heart-attacks-two-die/
>
> Increased instances in 2020/2021 might have coincided with lockdowns and
> irregular training schedules, but not 2022. This March, though, some
> areas of Europe did experience exceptionally long periods of fine Sahara
> dust blowing across the Mediterranean. Not something a tough, aspiring
> young athlete would start whining about to his peers, but I'd check for
> correlations with the low air quality before someone smarter than Jeff's
> idiotical fact-checker sites does.
> > "A history of professional cyclists who died from heart attacks"
> > <https://cyclingmagazine.ca/sections/news/a-history-of-professional-cyclists-who-died-from-heart-attacks/>
> If you trust cyclingmagazine.ca's superficial "statistic," Jeff, why
> don't you go paint a hockey-stick graph with that data, and the two
> instances in March?
> > "The list of young and seemingly healthy cyclists who tragically
> > succumbed to heart attacks, however, is much longer than you’d think."
> Just read what you quoted! Cyclingmagazine.ca supposes we don't know
> about the long history of underdiagnosed heart conditions and widespread
> "substance trials" associated with young cyclist racers' deaths, and
> tear-jerkingly calls them all tragical. Cyclingmagazine.ca must have
> done a lousy job of keeping their dope-roadie fanboy readership informed!

Sepp, the cycling magazine article is only showing the 'famous' cyclists who had heart-related deaths. Velonews does an excellent job of listing cycling deaths (actually where I read about John Paul), and in particular I remember many notices about some new euro-pro in his early 20's that died from cardiac arrest dating back as far as the late 80's.

You have a point though, that tom's statistic is pretty much useless with out a comparison of _all_ heart related deaths from previous years, including the pros from the continental team level. I'm willing to bet it doesn't look much like a hockey stick.

On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 3:22:46 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> > On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 11:28:10 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich wrote:
> >
> >> https://freewestmedia.com/2022/03/28/in-march-three-cyclists-suffer-heart-attacks-two-die/
>
> Increased instances in 2020/2021 might have coincided with lockdowns and
> irregular training schedules, but not 2022. This March, though, some
> areas of Europe did experience exceptionally long periods of fine Sahara
> dust blowing across the Mediterranean. Not something a tough, aspiring
> young athlete would start whining about to his peers, but I'd check for
> correlations with the low air quality before someone smarter than Jeff's
> idiotical fact-checker sites does.
> > "A history of professional cyclists who died from heart attacks"
> > <https://cyclingmagazine.ca/sections/news/a-history-of-professional-cyclists-who-died-from-heart-attacks/>
> If you trust cyclingmagazine.ca's superficial "statistic," Jeff, why
> don't you go paint a hockey-stick graph with that data, and the two
> instances in March?
> > "The list of young and seemingly healthy cyclists who tragically
> > succumbed to heart attacks, however, is much longer than you’d think."
> Just read what you quoted! Cyclingmagazine.ca supposes we don't know
> about the long history of underdiagnosed heart conditions and widespread
> "substance trials" associated with young cyclist racers' deaths, and
> tear-jerkingly calls them all tragical. Cyclingmagazine.ca must have
> done a lousy job of keeping their dope-roadie fanboy readership informed!

No one with a shred of dignity would for one second trust the "fact check" sites none of whom have any way other than Google to "fact check". They are nothing more than political expediency sites which is why Jeff in all of his brave new world order loves them. A damned cripple whose life revolves around attacking others because that is all the life he has made for himself..

On 4/1/2022 8:46 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> Russell, you don't have a lot of friends in the silent majority here. Most of them remember that I have actually shown the lies of covid deaths from the CDC's own researchers....

No you haven't, Tom. You've convinced absolutely nobody but yourself.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On 4/1/2022 8:53 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
>
> Just so you understand what I'm saying - the CDC themselves show that only some 20,000 people died from covid-19 Delta variation.

Wrong. You've convinced nobody but yourself.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On 4/2/2022 10:06 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> No one with a shred of dignity would for one second trust the "fact check" sites none of whom have any way other than Google to "fact check". They are nothing more than political expediency sites...

In other words, the only sources of truth are the extreme right wing
websites cited by Tom? Gosh, hardly any political expediency there!

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 12:22:41 +0200, Sepp Ruf <inqbel@Safe-mail.net>
wrote:

>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 11:28:10 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich wrote:
>>
>>> https://freewestmedia.com/2022/03/28/in-march-three-cyclists-suffer-heart-attacks-two-die/
>
>Increased instances in 2020/2021 might have coincided with lockdowns and
>irregular training schedules, but not 2022. This March, though, some
>areas of Europe did experience exceptionally long periods of fine Sahara
>dust blowing across the Mediterranean. Not something a tough, aspiring
>young athlete would start whining about to his peers, but I'd check for
>correlations with the low air quality before someone smarter than Jeff's
>idiotical fact-checker sites does.

It would be nice to know the results of the autopsy instead of the
initial speculations of the media. This usually takes some time.
Sometimes, the cause of death is suppressed, which can suggest a
possible pre-existing condition, drug or life insurance claim problem.

I live in an area that isn't directly affected by dust from the Sahara
desert and therefore have no experience with it. Instead, we have air
pollution and forest fires. AQI (air quality index):
<https://www.airnow.gov/national-maps/>
<https://gispub.epa.gov/airnow/>
The summer of 2020 was especially bad due to the numerous forest and
brush fires. I had to purchase a HEPA filter air purifier. The CDC
claims millions of deaths per hear due to air pollution:
<https://www.who.int/health-topics/air-pollution#tab=tab_1>
Google found a few heart attacks and deaths during the summer of 2020,
but no more than other years. Apparently the high air pollution
levels didn't produce a corresponding increase in cycling heart
attacks.

Before you believe that vaccination causes cyclists to have heart
attacks (thrombosis), think about whether it's correlation or
causation:
<https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations>

>> "A history of professional cyclists who died from heart attacks"
>> <https://cyclingmagazine.ca/sections/news/a-history-of-professional-cyclists-who-died-from-heart-attacks/>
>
>If you trust cyclingmagazine.ca's superficial "statistic," Jeff, why
>don't you go paint a hockey-stick graph with that data, and the two
>instances in March?

I don't trust anyone's statistics without going to the source and
evaluating their collection and computation methods. This takes more
time than I want to spend. CyclingMagazine.ca didn't provide any data
or information that could be graphed in a meaningful manner.
Therefore, no hokey stick. Sorry.

If you read my various rants, you'll probably notice that I don't tell
the reader what to think. I provide some interesting articles,
provide some observations from the articles, and generally present
enough information for *YOU* to decide on its validity. In other
words, I don't tell you what to think. If you disagree, that's fine.
However, if you find that associating a favorite symbol of the climate
change deniers with this discussion is somehow useful, I suggest you
might want to revise your debating style.

>> "The list of young and seemingly healthy cyclists who tragically
>> succumbed to heart attacks, however, is much longer than you’d think."

>Just read what you quoted! Cyclingmagazine.ca supposes we don't know
>about the long history of underdiagnosed heart conditions and widespread
>"substance trials" associated with young cyclist racers' deaths, and
>tear-jerkingly calls them all tragical. Cyclingmagazine.ca must have
>done a lousy job of keeping their dope-roadie fanboy readership informed!

CyclingMagazine.ca is right. I knew nothing of the prior history of
cycling racers deaths. That's why I posted the link. I had some
guesses, and some general impressions, but nothing definitive. So, I
went searching for something better, which the article provided.
Besides, if the magazine presumed that their readers all knew the
information they regularly present, there would be nothing to write
about. It's good that you are so well pre-informed about such things,
but you are not the entire audience.

Incidentally, you did the guilt by association thing again. I assume
that your mentioning "dope-roadie fanboy readership" somehow detracts
from the credibility of the magazine and validity of the article. It
doesn't. I again suggest you revise your debating style.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 05:10:41 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, April 2, 2022 at 6:22:46 AM UTC-4, Sepp Ruf wrote:
>> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> > On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 11:28:10 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich wrote:
>> >
>> >> https://freewestmedia.com/2022/03/28/in-march-three-cyclists-suffer-heart-attacks-two-die/
>>
>> Increased instances in 2020/2021 might have coincided with lockdowns and
>> irregular training schedules, but not 2022. This March, though, some
>> areas of Europe did experience exceptionally long periods of fine Sahara
>> dust blowing across the Mediterranean. Not something a tough, aspiring
>> young athlete would start whining about to his peers, but I'd check for
>> correlations with the low air quality before someone smarter than Jeff's
>> idiotical fact-checker sites does.
>> > "A history of professional cyclists who died from heart attacks"
>> > <https://cyclingmagazine.ca/sections/news/a-history-of-professional-cyclists-who-died-from-heart-attacks/>
>> If you trust cyclingmagazine.ca's superficial "statistic," Jeff, why
>> don't you go paint a hockey-stick graph with that data, and the two
>> instances in March?
>> > "The list of young and seemingly healthy cyclists who tragically
>> > succumbed to heart attacks, however, is much longer than you’d think."
>> Just read what you quoted! Cyclingmagazine.ca supposes we don't know
>> about the long history of underdiagnosed heart conditions and widespread
>> "substance trials" associated with young cyclist racers' deaths, and
>> tear-jerkingly calls them all tragical. Cyclingmagazine.ca must have
>> done a lousy job of keeping their dope-roadie fanboy readership informed!
>
>Sepp, the cycling magazine article is only showing the 'famous' cyclists who had heart-related deaths. Velonews does an excellent job of listing cycling deaths (actually where I read about John Paul), and in particular I remember many notices about some new euro-pro in his early 20's that died from cardiac arrest dating back as far as the late 80's.
>
>You have a point though, that tom's statistic is pretty much useless with out a comparison of _all_ heart related deaths from previous years, including the pros from the continental team level. I'm willing to bet it doesn't look much like a hockey stick.

Look up the statistics for heart attacks and you find statements like
"Harvard Medical School says up to 10 percent of all heart
attacks occur before the age of 45, and most of these
affect guys. "
and
"In fact, more than 150,000 heart
attack and stroke deaths each year are among people
younger than 65, according to the Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention."
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 11:55:40 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 12:22:41 +0200, Sepp Ruf <inqbel@Safe-mail.net>
>wrote:
>
>>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>> On Fri, 1 Apr 2022 11:28:10 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://freewestmedia.com/2022/03/28/in-march-three-cyclists-suffer-heart-attacks-two-die/
>>
>>Increased instances in 2020/2021 might have coincided with lockdowns and
>>irregular training schedules, but not 2022. This March, though, some
>>areas of Europe did experience exceptionally long periods of fine Sahara
>>dust blowing across the Mediterranean. Not something a tough, aspiring
>>young athlete would start whining about to his peers, but I'd check for
>>correlations with the low air quality before someone smarter than Jeff's
>>idiotical fact-checker sites does.
>
>It would be nice to know the results of the autopsy instead of the
>initial speculations of the media. This usually takes some time.
>Sometimes, the cause of death is suppressed, which can suggest a
>possible pre-existing condition, drug or life insurance claim problem.
>
>I live in an area that isn't directly affected by dust from the Sahara
>desert and therefore have no experience with it. Instead, we have air
>pollution and forest fires. AQI (air quality index):
><https://www.airnow.gov/national-maps/>
><https://gispub.epa.gov/airnow/>
>The summer of 2020 was especially bad due to the numerous forest and
>brush fires. I had to purchase a HEPA filter air purifier. The CDC
>claims millions of deaths per hear due to air pollution:
><https://www.who.int/health-topics/air-pollution#tab=tab_1>
>Google found a few heart attacks and deaths during the summer of 2020,
>but no more than other years. Apparently the high air pollution
>levels didn't produce a corresponding increase in cycling heart
>attacks.
>
>Before you believe that vaccination causes cyclists to have heart
>attacks (thrombosis), think about whether it's correlation or
>causation:
><https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations>
>
>>> "A history of professional cyclists who died from heart attacks"
>>> <https://cyclingmagazine.ca/sections/news/a-history-of-professional-cyclists-who-died-from-heart-attacks/>
>>
>>If you trust cyclingmagazine.ca's superficial "statistic," Jeff, why
>>don't you go paint a hockey-stick graph with that data, and the two
>>instances in March?
>
>I don't trust anyone's statistics without going to the source and
>evaluating their collection and computation methods. This takes more
>time than I want to spend. CyclingMagazine.ca didn't provide any data
>or information that could be graphed in a meaningful manner.
>Therefore, no hokey stick. Sorry.
>
>If you read my various rants, you'll probably notice that I don't tell
>the reader what to think. I provide some interesting articles,
>provide some observations from the articles, and generally present
>enough information for *YOU* to decide on its validity. In other
>words, I don't tell you what to think. If you disagree, that's fine.
>However, if you find that associating a favorite symbol of the climate
>change deniers with this discussion is somehow useful, I suggest you
>might want to revise your debating style.
>
>>> "The list of young and seemingly healthy cyclists who tragically
>>> succumbed to heart attacks, however, is much longer than you’d think."
>
>>Just read what you quoted! Cyclingmagazine.ca supposes we don't know
>>about the long history of underdiagnosed heart conditions and widespread
>>"substance trials" associated with young cyclist racers' deaths, and
>>tear-jerkingly calls them all tragical. Cyclingmagazine.ca must have
>>done a lousy job of keeping their dope-roadie fanboy readership informed!
>
>CyclingMagazine.ca is right. I knew nothing of the prior history of
>cycling racers deaths. That's why I posted the link. I had some
>guesses, and some general impressions, but nothing definitive. So, I
>went searching for something better, which the article provided.
>Besides, if the magazine presumed that their readers all knew the
>information they regularly present, there would be nothing to write
>about. It's good that you are so well pre-informed about such things,
>but you are not the entire audience.
>
>Incidentally, you did the guilt by association thing again. I assume
>that your mentioning "dope-roadie fanboy readership" somehow detracts
>from the credibility of the magazine and validity of the article. It
>doesn't. I again suggest you revise your debating style.

See there Jeff, you don no nothin. Heart attacks are caused by the
vaccine, ever body nos that. Why, if it wasn't for the vaccine life
expetency wold be multiplied in the non world.

You want proof?

Well the oldest person in the world seems to be:
The greatest fully authenticated age to which any human has ever lived
is 122 years 164 days by Jeanne Louise Calment (France). Born on 21
February 1875, died at a nursing home in Arles, southern France on 4
August 1997.

See no vaccine.

--
Cheers,

John B.

On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:40:08 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:28:12 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > https://freewestmedia.com/2022/03/28/in-march-three-cyclists-suffer-heart-attacks-two-die/
>
> https://newsrescue.com/leaked-documents-from-dod-database-show-us-military-illness-skyrocketing-from-covid-jab-viral-video/
> https://peckford42.wordpress.com/2021/08/20/vaccine-deaths-pile-up-without-media-coverage/

Today in the newfeeds, it said that some university or the other ran a study that said that covis-19 and not the vaccines were causing heart failure. Of course they couldn't give a reference to the study so that it could be read so we had to accept the interpretation of that study by slime stream media reporters.

On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 06:31:48 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:

>See there Jeff, you don no nothin. Heart attacks are caused by the
>vaccine, ever body nos that. Why, if it wasn't for the vaccine life
>expetency wold be multiplied in the non world.

You don't need a vaccine injection in order to precipitate a heart
attack:
"Does getting angry put you at risk of a heart attack?"
<https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/behind-the-headlines/anger-and-heart-attacks>
"Researchers found that in the two hours immediately after feeling
angry, a person’s risk of a heart attack increased nearly fivefold (by
4.74 times), and the risk of stroke increased more than threefold (by
3.62 times)."

Maybe that's why I'm still alive. I rarely get angry, while those
around me go into an apoplectic fit with the slightest provocation.
That's how it's done on TV and in movies. Everyone is always furious
and shouting in order to retain audience attention. No wonder anger
management clinics are popular.

Were the bicycle racers that had heart attacks angry about something?
Too late to ask. We'll probably never know.
"Anger always comes from frustrated expectations."
- Elliott Larson.

NSAID's are known to increase heart attack risk:
"NSAIDs: Do they increase my risk of heart attack and stroke?"
<https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-attack/expert-answers/nsaids-heart-attack-stroke/faq-20147557>

Incidentally, vaccinations can also cause economic inflation. The
increase in the price of just about everything could easily be
connected with increased vaccination and booster levels. Please don't
disagree with me. I want to keep my anger level low.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 17:14:57 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>Today in the newfeeds, it said that some university or the other ran a study that said that covis-19 and not the vaccines were causing heart failure. Of course they couldn't give a reference to the study so that it could be read so we had to accept the interpretation of that study by slime stream media reporters.

For those who believe, no proof is necessary.
For those who do not believe, no proof is possible.
For those who contrive their claims, no belief or proof is sufficient.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 4/3/2022 3:05 AM, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 12:13:52 AM UTC-5, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Incidentally, vaccinations can also cause economic inflation. The
>> increase in the price of just about everything could easily be
>> connected with increased vaccination and booster levels. Please don't
>> disagree with me. I want to keep my anger level low.
>
> Yes. Vaccines keep people alive. More people alive means higher demand for everything. Live people want stuff. Higher demand with same supply will lead to increased prices. Inflation. Trump created the Covid vaccine. I've seen videos of him taking credit for it. So Trump is the one who created the current high inflation.

Sorry, according to this drawing our inflation is definitely Biden's fault:

https://www.politico.com/dims4/default/9823d12/2147483647/resize/1160x%3E/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2F6d%2F6b%2Fb2c63d2f4b92b740030d15042ddc%2F11-nick-anderson-counterpoint.jpg

Just ask Tom.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 4:55:26 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 1:40:08 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:28:12 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > https://freewestmedia.com/2022/03/28/in-march-three-cyclists-suffer-heart-attacks-two-die/
> > >
> > > https://newsrescue.com/leaked-documents-from-dod-database-show-us-military-illness-skyrocketing-from-covid-jab-viral-video/
> > > https://peckford42.wordpress.com/2021/08/20/vaccine-deaths-pile-up-without-media-coverage/
> > Tommy, Tommy, Tommy. I, and many people on this forum have repeatedly warned you about using unreliable, biased, right wing, Qanon, sources for your information. Yet you fail to learn. Why can't you learn? Do you have mental deficiencies?
> >
> > https://freewestmedia.com/about/
> > Do you see any slant to this source?
> >
> > https://newsrescue.com/about-us/
> > "Support NewsRescue
> > Filtering the news daily and keeping this archive of real news in today’s controlled world, is an arduous and unimaginably tough process. We appreciate your support. Email us for more support options."
> > Notice any bias here?
> Russell, you don't have a lot of friends in the silent majority here. Most of them remember that I have actually shown the lies of covid deaths from the CDC's own researchers and you somehow cannot remember.
>
> https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
>
> Scroll down the page to "Options" and "Select a Dashboard" Go across the section and mark "Weekly Number of Deaths by Cause Subgroup" and hit the "Update Dashboard" button.
>
> Below this will be charts. Anyone capable of reading a chart could simply look under "Respiratory Diseases" which is what covid-19 is and see a SMALL number of excess deaths peaking in April 4, 2020. Before and after that time Respiratory deaths were normal or below normal. In 2022 they are FAR below normal as beginning in 2021, people began exercising and taking better care of their diets etc. leading to better health. In 2022 respiratory deaths are FAR below normal.
>
> Also you can see that most of the excess deaths were from Circulatory Diseases. Why was that? Because people put out of work worry about how they are going to make ends meet and a very large sector of the US was put out of work by Fauci's lockdowns and then mask mandates. Their response was to start using drugs or becoming alcoholics which are a leading cause of circulatory diseases Especially opiates.
>
> The lockdowns also increased the numbers of dementia deaths as loved ones stopped coming to see their dying family members in old age homes since the lockdowns prevented this.
>
> I have also explained how the Fauci portion of the CDC logged so many deaths.
> 1. The DHHS offered $50,000 per head to report a covid death. How was this determined? By using PCR as a diagnostic tool which it was NEVER designed to be. They are still doing this. Since I am the one that automated that process I know that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXm9kAhNj-4
> 2. That sort of money (a million x $50,000 = $50 Billion) was enough to corrupt almost every hospital administrator and THAT is where those numbers came from. Using a PCR with 40 cycles is a Trillion times multiplication of any possible SIMILAR virus.
>
> When you WANT to think something you're going to. Just like you honestly believed that an N95 operating room mask with 200 nanometer breathing pores could stop a 30 nanometer virus. Virtually every honest study since 1918 that tested the effectiveness of masks said that they could not even work well with bacteria let alone a virus but people are still wearing those blue paper masks that are designed to keep nurses from coughing sputum onto a sick patient. Or worse yet: as cloth mask that is as effective as a screen door.
>
> When you try to tell someone that spent the majority of their life actually working in science that you know more about it than you do, expect people to not have a very high opinion of you.

Question: When I put this information on a YouTube page dedicated to covid-19 why is is not posted? Since I'm using strictly CDC information is YouTube telling us that the CDC is giving us Fake News?

On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 12:45:19 PM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 4:55:26 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 1:40:08 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:28:12 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > > https://freewestmedia.com/2022/03/28/in-march-three-cyclists-suffer-heart-attacks-two-die/
> > > >
> > > > https://newsrescue.com/leaked-documents-from-dod-database-show-us-military-illness-skyrocketing-from-covid-jab-viral-video/
> > > > https://peckford42.wordpress.com/2021/08/20/vaccine-deaths-pile-up-without-media-coverage/
> > > Tommy, Tommy, Tommy. I, and many people on this forum have repeatedly warned you about using unreliable, biased, right wing, Qanon, sources for your information. Yet you fail to learn. Why can't you learn? Do you have mental deficiencies?
> > >
> > > https://freewestmedia.com/about/
> > > Do you see any slant to this source?
> > >
> > > https://newsrescue.com/about-us/
> > > "Support NewsRescue
> > > Filtering the news daily and keeping this archive of real news in today’s controlled world, is an arduous and unimaginably tough process.. We appreciate your support. Email us for more support options."
> > > Notice any bias here?
> > Russell, you don't have a lot of friends in the silent majority here. Most of them remember that I have actually shown the lies of covid deaths from the CDC's own researchers and you somehow cannot remember.
> >
> > https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
> >
> > Scroll down the page to "Options" and "Select a Dashboard" Go across the section and mark "Weekly Number of Deaths by Cause Subgroup" and hit the "Update Dashboard" button.
> >
> > Below this will be charts. Anyone capable of reading a chart could simply look under "Respiratory Diseases" which is what covid-19 is and see a SMALL number of excess deaths peaking in April 4, 2020. Before and after that time Respiratory deaths were normal or below normal. In 2022 they are FAR below normal as beginning in 2021, people began exercising and taking better care of their diets etc. leading to better health. In 2022 respiratory deaths are FAR below normal.
> >
> > Also you can see that most of the excess deaths were from Circulatory Diseases. Why was that? Because people put out of work worry about how they are going to make ends meet and a very large sector of the US was put out of work by Fauci's lockdowns and then mask mandates. Their response was to start using drugs or becoming alcoholics which are a leading cause of circulatory diseases Especially opiates.
> >
> > The lockdowns also increased the numbers of dementia deaths as loved ones stopped coming to see their dying family members in old age homes since the lockdowns prevented this.
> >
> > I have also explained how the Fauci portion of the CDC logged so many deaths.
> > 1. The DHHS offered $50,000 per head to report a covid death. How was this determined? By using PCR as a diagnostic tool which it was NEVER designed to be. They are still doing this. Since I am the one that automated that process I know that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXm9kAhNj-4
> > 2. That sort of money (a million x $50,000 = $50 Billion) was enough to corrupt almost every hospital administrator and THAT is where those numbers came from. Using a PCR with 40 cycles is a Trillion times multiplication of any possible SIMILAR virus.
> >
> > When you WANT to think something you're going to. Just like you honestly believed that an N95 operating room mask with 200 nanometer breathing pores could stop a 30 nanometer virus. Virtually every honest study since 1918 that tested the effectiveness of masks said that they could not even work well with bacteria let alone a virus but people are still wearing those blue paper masks that are designed to keep nurses from coughing sputum onto a sick patient. Or worse yet: as cloth mask that is as effective as a screen door.
> >
> > When you try to tell someone that spent the majority of their life actually working in science that you know more about it than you do, expect people to not have a very high opinion of you.
> Question: When I put this information on a YouTube page dedicated to covid-19 why is is not posted? Since I'm using strictly CDC information is YouTube telling us that the CDC is giving us Fake News?

Did I miss posts regarding the large scale study of the use of ivermectin on prevention of hospitalization? 1300 patients- seems conclusive... New England Journal of medicine- study done in Brazil. Care to opine?? Regards, Pat

On Sun, 3 Apr 2022 16:35:50 -0700 (PDT), "russellseaton1@yahoo.com"
<ritzannaseaton@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 6:10:51 PM UTC-5, patrick wrote:
>> On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 12:45:19 PM UTC-7, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 5:46:29 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> > > On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 4:55:26 PM UTC-7, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> > > > On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 1:40:08 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > > > > On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 11:28:12 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> > > > > > https://freewestmedia.com/2022/03/28/in-march-three-cyclists-suffer-heart-attacks-two-die/
>> > > > >
>> > > > > https://newsrescue.com/leaked-documents-from-dod-database-show-us-military-illness-skyrocketing-from-covid-jab-viral-video/
>> > > > > https://peckford42.wordpress.com/2021/08/20/vaccine-deaths-pile-up-without-media-coverage/
>> > > > Tommy, Tommy, Tommy. I, and many people on this forum have repeatedly warned you about using unreliable, biased, right wing, Qanon, sources for your information. Yet you fail to learn. Why can't you learn? Do you have mental deficiencies?
>> > > >
>> > > > https://freewestmedia.com/about/
>> > > > Do you see any slant to this source?
>> > > >
>> > > > https://newsrescue.com/about-us/
>> > > > "Support NewsRescue
>> > > > Filtering the news daily and keeping this archive of real news in today’s controlled world, is an arduous and unimaginably tough process. We appreciate your support. Email us for more support options."
>> > > > Notice any bias here?
>> > > Russell, you don't have a lot of friends in the silent majority here. Most of them remember that I have actually shown the lies of covid deaths from the CDC's own researchers and you somehow cannot remember.
>> > >
>> > > https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
>> > >
>> > > Scroll down the page to "Options" and "Select a Dashboard" Go across the section and mark "Weekly Number of Deaths by Cause Subgroup" and hit the "Update Dashboard" button.
>> > >
>> > > Below this will be charts. Anyone capable of reading a chart could simply look under "Respiratory Diseases" which is what covid-19 is and see a SMALL number of excess deaths peaking in April 4, 2020. Before and after that time Respiratory deaths were normal or below normal. In 2022 they are FAR below normal as beginning in 2021, people began exercising and taking better care of their diets etc. leading to better health. In 2022 respiratory deaths are FAR below normal.
>> > >
>> > > Also you can see that most of the excess deaths were from Circulatory Diseases. Why was that? Because people put out of work worry about how they are going to make ends meet and a very large sector of the US was put out of work by Fauci's lockdowns and then mask mandates. Their response was to start using drugs or becoming alcoholics which are a leading cause of circulatory diseases Especially opiates.
>> > >
>> > > The lockdowns also increased the numbers of dementia deaths as loved ones stopped coming to see their dying family members in old age homes since the lockdowns prevented this.
>> > >
>> > > I have also explained how the Fauci portion of the CDC logged so many deaths.
>> > > 1. The DHHS offered $50,000 per head to report a covid death. How was this determined? By using PCR as a diagnostic tool which it was NEVER designed to be. They are still doing this. Since I am the one that automated that process I know that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXm9kAhNj-4
>> > > 2. That sort of money (a million x $50,000 = $50 Billion) was enough to corrupt almost every hospital administrator and THAT is where those numbers came from. Using a PCR with 40 cycles is a Trillion times multiplication of any possible SIMILAR virus.
>> > >
>> > > When you WANT to think something you're going to. Just like you honestly believed that an N95 operating room mask with 200 nanometer breathing pores could stop a 30 nanometer virus. Virtually every honest study since 1918 that tested the effectiveness of masks said that they could not even work well with bacteria let alone a virus but people are still wearing those blue paper masks that are designed to keep nurses from coughing sputum onto a sick patient. Or worse yet: as cloth mask that is as effective as a screen door.
>> > >
>> > > When you try to tell someone that spent the majority of their life actually working in science that you know more about it than you do, expect people to not have a very high opinion of you.
>> > Question: When I put this information on a YouTube page dedicated to covid-19 why is is not posted? Since I'm using strictly CDC information is YouTube telling us that the CDC is giving us Fake News?
>> Did I miss posts regarding the large scale study of the use of ivermectin on prevention of hospitalization? 1300 patients- seems conclusive... New England Journal of medicine- study done in Brazil. Care to opine?? Regards, Pat
>
>You mean this study?
>https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/30/health/covid-ivermectin-hospitalization.html
>"The study, which compared more than 1,300 people infected with the coronavirus in Brazil who received either ivermectin or a placebo, effectively ruled out the drug as a treatment for Covid, the study’s authors said.
>
>“There’s really no sign of any benefit,” said Dr. David Boulware, an infectious-disease expert at the University of Minnesota."

and
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34215210/
"Conclusion: Ivermectin had no significant effect on preventing
hospitalization of patients with COVID-19. Patients who received
ivermectin required invasive MVS earlier in their treatment. No
significant differences were observed in any of the other secondary
outcomes. "
--
Cheers,

John B.