When the conversation turns to actual bicycle tech suddenly there is vast quiet of the stupid front. I can see who is posting but the posters in that group I have blocked do not show when I open a conversation. It is like they don't exist. And clearly, they don't.

On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 08:32:08 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>When the conversation turns to actual bicycle tech suddenly there is vast quiet of the stupid front. I can see who is posting but the posters in that group I have blocked do not show when I open a conversation. It is like they don't exist. And clearly, they don't.

Amazing. Looking at your message header, I find:

Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com;
posting-host=2600:1700:4260:b370:b4d3:4e83:171e:4ef8;
posting-account=ai195goAAAAWOHLnJWPRm0qjf_39qMws
NNTP-Posting-Host: 2600:1700:4260:b370:b4d3:4e83:171e:4ef8
User-Agent: G2/1.0

That means you're posting to RBT using some unknown web browser via
Google Groups. However, Google Groups does not support kill files,
block lists, or filters. Therefore, you could not have blocked
specific users. If you were actually filtering or blocking by
user(s), it would require that you use an NNTP newsreader and a local
database (usually ~/.newsrc).

To make filtering more difficult, Google Groups only allows you to
view the message headers of articles that you post. Everyone else's
headers cannot be viewed. As a bonus, Google Groups also mangles all
email addresses. From here, you are "cycl...@gmail.com", which is not
very useful. Actually, I can't see my own name and email address
because I post and read from different accounts.

You could filter and block users if you were using Google Groups for
Business:
<https://support.google.com/a/answer/10308022>
However, you would need admin rights to the RBT newsgroup, which none
of us have.

Of course, you could claim that you wrote a program overnight to do
filtering for you. I don't think it can be done with Google Groups.
It would require an NNTP newsreader, a commercial (or free) NNTP news
feed, and a huge amount of spare time. I'm fairly sure you didn't
write your own filter program or you would have bragged about writing
it when you made the announcement.

If you don't like me pointing out your lies, simply cease lying and
concocting amazing facts and I'll slowly fade away.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 4/5/2022 11:32 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> When the conversation turns to actual bicycle tech suddenly there is vast quiet of the stupid front. I can see who is posting but the posters in that group I have blocked do not show when I open a conversation. It is like they don't exist. And clearly, they don't.

"Bicycle tech" is not what you've been posting, Tom.

You give repetitions of "I bought yet another bike" and "I'm going to
put this and that stuff on it" and "Why will nobody buy the bikes I'm
trying to sell" and "It's Obama's fault ... or no, I forgot, it's now
Biden's fault" do NOT qualify as technical. The gratuitous insults you
always append make your posts even more distasteful.

I understand your need to vent your demented frustrations. But most of
us feel no need to acknowledge them.

If you really want responses, just post something with real tech
content. Your attempts at those usually get responses, if only because
the mistakes they always contain.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 1:42:17 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 4/5/2022 11:32 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > When the conversation turns to actual bicycle tech suddenly there is vast quiet of the stupid front. I can see who is posting but the posters in that group I have blocked do not show when I open a conversation. It is like they don't exist. And clearly, they don't.
> "Bicycle tech" is not what you've been posting, Tom.
>
> You give repetitions of "I bought yet another bike" and "I'm going to
> put this and that stuff on it" and "Why will nobody buy the bikes I'm
> trying to sell" and "It's Obama's fault ... or no, I forgot, it's now
> Biden's fault" do NOT qualify as technical. The gratuitous insults you
> always append make your posts even more distasteful.
>
> I understand your need to vent your demented frustrations. But most of
> us feel no need to acknowledge them.
>
> If you really want responses, just post something with real tech
> content. Your attempts at those usually get responses, if only because
> the mistakes they always contain.
>
> --
> - Frank Krygowski

Not to mention the fact that he's simply wrong about none of us replying to cycling specific discussion.

On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 1:39:24 PM UTC-4, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 08:32:08 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >When the conversation turns to actual bicycle tech suddenly there is vast quiet of the stupid front. I can see who is posting but the posters in that group I have blocked do not show when I open a conversation. It is like they don't exist. And clearly, they don't.
> Amazing. Looking at your message header, I find:
>
> Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com;
> posting-host=2600:1700:4260:b370:b4d3:4e83:171e:4ef8;
> posting-account=ai195goAAAAWOHLnJWPRm0qjf_39qMws
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 2600:1700:4260:b370:b4d3:4e83:171e:4ef8
> User-Agent: G2/1.0
>
> That means you're posting to RBT using some unknown web browser via
> Google Groups. However, Google Groups does not support kill files,
> block lists, or filters. Therefore, you could not have blocked
> specific users. If you were actually filtering or blocking by
> user(s), it would require that you use an NNTP newsreader and a local
> database (usually ~/.newsrc).
>
> To make filtering more difficult, Google Groups only allows you to
> view the message headers of articles that you post. Everyone else's
> headers cannot be viewed. As a bonus, Google Groups also mangles all
> email addresses. From here, you are "cycl...@gmail.com", which is not
> very useful. Actually, I can't see my own name and email address
> because I post and read from different accounts.
>
> You could filter and block users if you were using Google Groups for
> Business:
> <https://support.google.com/a/answer/10308022>
> However, you would need admin rights to the RBT newsgroup, which none
> of us have.
>
> Of course, you could claim that you wrote a program overnight to do
> filtering for you. I don't think it can be done with Google Groups.
> It would require an NNTP newsreader, a commercial (or free) NNTP news
> feed, and a huge amount of spare time. I'm fairly sure you didn't
> write your own filter program or you would have bragged about writing
> it when you made the announcement.
>
> If you don't like me pointing out your lies, simply cease lying and
> concocting amazing facts and I'll slowly fade away.

> --
> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

I was going to point out the obvious irony of claiming there was no response to cycling specific messages from those who he had blocked,

On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 8:32:10 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> When the conversation turns to actual bicycle tech suddenly there is vast quiet of the stupid front. I can see who is posting but the posters in that group I have blocked do not show when I open a conversation. It is like they don't exist. And clearly, they don't.

This is almost comical, It says that 5 people have posted but I see no one. So it was useless nothing answers from the group that are blocked. And yet there are 12 people who looked at it. I suppose I should stop taunting the uglies since it stifles real conversations.

i see that t

On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 13:05:39 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 1:39:24 PM UTC-4, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 08:32:08 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >When the conversation turns to actual bicycle tech suddenly there is vast quiet of the stupid front. I can see who is posting but the posters in that group I have blocked do not show when I open a conversation. It is like they don't exist. And clearly, they don't.
>> Amazing. Looking at your message header, I find:
>>
>> Injection-Info: google-groups.googlegroups.com;
>> posting-host=2600:1700:4260:b370:b4d3:4e83:171e:4ef8;
>> posting-account=ai195goAAAAWOHLnJWPRm0qjf_39qMws
>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 2600:1700:4260:b370:b4d3:4e83:171e:4ef8
>> User-Agent: G2/1.0
>>
>> That means you're posting to RBT using some unknown web browser via
>> Google Groups. However, Google Groups does not support kill files,
>> block lists, or filters. Therefore, you could not have blocked
>> specific users. If you were actually filtering or blocking by
>> user(s), it would require that you use an NNTP newsreader and a local
>> database (usually ~/.newsrc).
>>
>> To make filtering more difficult, Google Groups only allows you to
>> view the message headers of articles that you post. Everyone else's
>> headers cannot be viewed. As a bonus, Google Groups also mangles all
>> email addresses. From here, you are "cycl...@gmail.com", which is not
>> very useful. Actually, I can't see my own name and email address
>> because I post and read from different accounts.
>>
>> You could filter and block users if you were using Google Groups for
>> Business:
>> <https://support.google.com/a/answer/10308022>
>> However, you would need admin rights to the RBT newsgroup, which none
>> of us have.
>>
>> Of course, you could claim that you wrote a program overnight to do
>> filtering for you. I don't think it can be done with Google Groups.
>> It would require an NNTP newsreader, a commercial (or free) NNTP news
>> feed, and a huge amount of spare time. I'm fairly sure you didn't
>> write your own filter program or you would have bragged about writing
>> it when you made the announcement.
>>
>> If you don't like me pointing out your lies, simply cease lying and
>> concocting amazing facts and I'll slowly fade away.
>
>> --
>> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
>> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
>> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
>> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
>
>I was going to point out the obvious irony of claiming there was no response to cycling specific messages from those who he had blocked,

Well, given that he claims to have "black listed" everyone who has
ridiculed him he is, apparently, limiting his correspondence to
himself and the famous self published author over there in the low
rent district of Ireland.

One can only speculate on why he bothers to post here, wouldn't simply
e-mailing back and forth with his "buddy" be more efficient?
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 14:06:32 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 8:32:10 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> When the conversation turns to actual bicycle tech suddenly there is vast quiet of the stupid front. I can see who is posting but the posters in that group I have blocked do not show when I open a conversation. It is like they don't exist. And clearly, they don't.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_absence>

Some of the homeless, who used to hang around my former palatial
office, could maintain a rather loud and animated conversation with
literally nobody. It closely resembles what you're attempted to do
here. Are you perhaps practicing for becoming homeless?

>This is almost comical, It says that 5 people have posted but I see no one. So it was useless nothing answers from the group that are blocked. And yet there are 12 people who looked at it. I suppose I should stop taunting the uglies since it stifles real conversations.

Are you keeping track of your popularity? The 5 and 12 people that
you mentioned are only those who use Google Groups. There are
additional people who read RBT via other Usenet news services. For
example, I get mine via supernews.com. Quite a few use aioe.org and
eternal-september.org.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 16:31:16 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 14:06:32 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
><cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 8:32:10 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> When the conversation turns to actual bicycle tech suddenly there is vast quiet of the stupid front. I can see who is posting but the posters in that group I have blocked do not show when I open a conversation. It is like they don't exist. And clearly, they don't.
>
>Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_absence>
>
>Some of the homeless, who used to hang around my former palatial
>office, could maintain a rather loud and animated conversation with
>literally nobody. It closely resembles what you're attempted to do
>here. Are you perhaps practicing for becoming homeless?
>
>>This is almost comical, It says that 5 people have posted but I see no one. So it was useless nothing answers from the group that are blocked. And yet there are 12 people who looked at it. I suppose I should stop taunting the uglies since it stifles real conversations.
>
>Are you keeping track of your popularity? The 5 and 12 people that
>you mentioned are only those who use Google Groups. There are
>additional people who read RBT via other Usenet news services. For
>example, I get mine via supernews.com. Quite a few use aioe.org and
>eternal-september.org.

Come now Jeff, you must know that the entire population of the whole
world is waiting with breathless anticipation for Tommy's least
pronouncement.

And if you don't believe me, just ask Tommy.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 5:06:34 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 8:32:10 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > When the conversation turns to actual bicycle tech suddenly there is vast quiet of the stupid front. I can see who is posting but the posters in that group I have blocked do not show when I open a conversation. It is like they don't exist. And clearly, they don't.
> This is almost comical, It says that 5 people have posted but I see no one. So it was useless nothing answers from the group that are blocked.

So how exactly would you know the answers are useless if you don't bother looking at them? Is it because in you mind there is no question that you're always right about everything?

> And yet there are 12 people who looked at it. I suppose I should stop taunting the uglies since it stifles real conversations.

seems to me you're just one of those people who only posts so he can see his name on a message. How about you just try emailing yourself? It would have roughly the same effect.

On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 6:32:50 AM UTC-7, jhc...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 5:06:34 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 8:32:10 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > When the conversation turns to actual bicycle tech suddenly there is vast quiet of the stupid front. I can see who is posting but the posters in that group I have blocked do not show when I open a conversation. It is like they don't exist. And clearly, they don't.
> > This is almost comical, It says that 5 people have posted but I see no one. So it was useless nothing answers from the group that are blocked.
> So how exactly would you know the answers are useless if you don't bother looking at them? Is it because in you mind there is no question that you're always right about everything?
> > And yet there are 12 people who looked at it. I suppose I should stop taunting the uglies since it stifles real conversations.
> seems to me you're just one of those people who only posts so he can see his name on a message. How about you just try emailing yourself? It would have roughly the same effect.
OOO - Look, one of them posted under a new identity to get around my block and indeed it was another useless, mindless posting.

On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 9:45:58 AM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 6:32:50 AM UTC-7, jhc...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 5:06:34 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 8:32:10 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > > When the conversation turns to actual bicycle tech suddenly there is vast quiet of the stupid front. I can see who is posting but the posters in that group I have blocked do not show when I open a conversation. It is like they don't exist. And clearly, they don't.
> > > This is almost comical, It says that 5 people have posted but I see no one. So it was useless nothing answers from the group that are blocked.
> > So how exactly would you know the answers are useless if you don't bother looking at them? Is it because in you mind there is no question that you're always right about everything?
> > > And yet there are 12 people who looked at it. I suppose I should stop taunting the uglies since it stifles real conversations.
> > seems to me you're just one of those people who only posts so he can see his name on a message. How about you just try emailing yourself? It would have roughly the same effect.
> OOO - Look, one of them posted under a new identity to get around my block and indeed it was another useless, mindless posting.
In response to your useless mindless topic

On 4/6/2022 9:45 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 6:32:50 AM UTC-7, jhc...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 5:06:34 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 8:32:10 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>> When the conversation turns to actual bicycle tech suddenly there is vast quiet of the stupid front. I can see who is posting but the posters in that group I have blocked do not show when I open a conversation. It is like they don't exist. And clearly, they don't.
>>> This is almost comical, It says that 5 people have posted but I see no one. So it was useless nothing answers from the group that are blocked.
>> So how exactly would you know the answers are useless if you don't bother looking at them? Is it because in you mind there is no question that you're always right about everything?
>>> And yet there are 12 people who looked at it. I suppose I should stop taunting the uglies since it stifles real conversations.
>> seems to me you're just one of those people who only posts so he can see his name on a message. How about you just try emailing yourself? It would have roughly the same effect.
> OOO - Look, one of them posted under a new identity to get around my block and indeed it was another useless, mindless posting.

So when yet another person points out Tom's faults, he pretends it's a
fake post. He certainly has a rich fantasy life!

Instead of tallying the posters who frequently disagree with Tom, he
should count those who consistently agree with him. Tiny numbers should
be easier for him to remember.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 06:45:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>OOO - Look, one of them posted under a new identity to get around my block and indeed it was another useless, mindless posting.

Which one? I could use a list so that I can build a Forte Agent
message filter that marks their messages for automatic retrieval. That
way, I won't miss any of their messages. I have to do this using
automatic retrieval because Forte Agent filters do not have a message
tag feature.

Please continue to pretend that you have a "block" filter that works
with Google Groups. It's rather amusing and does wonders for you
credibility and image:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=ostrich+head+in+sand&tbm=isch>

Incidentally, I'm going for my 2nd booster shot (Pfizer) today at
4:20PM PDT. That would be the proper time to push pins into my effigy
and perform the required voodoo rituals. Like your Google Groups
"block" filter, it probably won't work. So far, all your voodoo
spells have done is produce pinhole leaks in my old inner tubes.
Perhaps a better spell checker?

I might also try an online IQ test before and after the vaccination. I
want to see if the vaccine really does turn my brain to mush.

[ 20 minutes of entertainment knowing that Tom won't read this. ]

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 12:25:23 PM UTC-4, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 06:45:55 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >OOO - Look, one of them posted under a new identity to get around my block and indeed it was another useless, mindless posting.
>
> Which one?

I think it's likely he's under the same delusion that andre is - there are only a very few number of people who criticize, they do so under sock puppets to make it look like more. Both he and andre are convinced I'm someone named peter howard and news 18, but of course neither tom or andre have the technical savvy or basic understanding of how this interweb thingie works such that they could show any traceability amoung the internet breadcrumbs. Not that they tried and were unsuccessful, more that they can't figure it out. I do have to say tommy has shown a level of discipline quit surprising for him in not responding directly, but it's only a matter of time.

I could use a list so that I can build a Forte Agent
> message filter that marks their messages for automatic retrieval. That
> way, I won't miss any of their messages. I have to do this using
> automatic retrieval because Forte Agent filters do not have a message
> tag feature.
>
> Please continue to pretend that you have a "block" filter that works
> with Google Groups. It's rather amusing and does wonders for you
> credibility and image:
> <https://www.google.com/search?q=ostrich+head+in+sand&tbm=isch>
>
> Incidentally, I'm going for my 2nd booster shot (Pfizer) today at
> 4:20PM PDT. That would be the proper time to push pins into my effigy
> and perform the required voodoo rituals. Like your Google Groups
> "block" filter, it probably won't work. So far, all your voodoo
> spells have done is produce pinhole leaks in my old inner tubes.
> Perhaps a better spell checker?
>
> I might also try an online IQ test before and after the vaccination. I
> want to see if the vaccine really does turn my brain to mush.
>
>
> [ 20 minutes of entertainment knowing that Tom won't read this. ]
> --
> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558