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More proof sky being ruined by satellites

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by: RichA - Mon, 10 May 2021 01:08 UTC

https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html

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by: StarDust - Mon, 10 May 2021 02:57 UTC

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:08:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html

Only visible at dawn and dusk!
Sun has to shine on a satellite and has to have solar panel to reflect the light!
Otherwise you don't see them!

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by: Chris L Peterson - Mon, 10 May 2021 04:58 UTC

On Sun, 9 May 2021 18:08:28 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3128@gmail.com>
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>https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html

Proof? I think not.

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by: fred k. engels® - Mon, 10 May 2021 14:27 UTC

Just more proof of pretty picture horseshit® from a Canucken who has this
guy, Prime Minister Justin
Blackface Trudeau, as their leader!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NKCx7P_mpo
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On Sun, 9 May 2021 18:08:28 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3128@gmail.com>
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>https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html

Proof? I think not.

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by: MitchAlsup - Sun, 23 May 2021 22:51 UTC

On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:08:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html
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> Only visible at dawn and dusk!
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visible all night long at the eyepiece.
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> Sun has to shine on a satellite and has to have solar panel to reflect the light!
> Otherwise you don't see them!

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by: Chris L Peterson - Mon, 24 May 2021 01:30 UTC

On Sun, 23 May 2021 15:51:54 -0700 (PDT), MitchAlsup
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>On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
>> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:08:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
>> > https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html
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>> Only visible at dawn and dusk!
><
>visible all night long at the eyepiece.

Why would anybody at an eyepiece care? It spends a fraction of a
second in the field.

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by: RichA - Mon, 24 May 2021 01:50 UTC

On Sunday, 23 May 2021 at 21:30:26 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 15:51:54 -0700 (PDT), MitchAlsup
> <Mitch...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> >> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:08:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> >> > https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html
> >>
> >> Only visible at dawn and dusk!
> ><
> >visible all night long at the eyepiece.
> Why would anybody at an eyepiece care? It spends a fraction of a
> second in the field.

It's annoying, distracting, disturbing. How would you like to watch TV when streaks running through it.?

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by: Chris L Peterson - Mon, 24 May 2021 04:13 UTC

On Sun, 23 May 2021 18:50:39 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3128@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sunday, 23 May 2021 at 21:30:26 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 May 2021 15:51:54 -0700 (PDT), MitchAlsup
>> <Mitch...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
>> >> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:08:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
>> >> > https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html
>> >>
>> >> Only visible at dawn and dusk!
>> ><
>> >visible all night long at the eyepiece.
>> Why would anybody at an eyepiece care? It spends a fraction of a
>> second in the field.
>
>It's annoying, distracting, disturbing. How would you like to watch TV when streaks running through it.?

A tiny flash, you might see a few a night, lasting a fraction of a
second? You have more random flashes from neuronal events than that.
Don't be absurd. Satellites through eyepieces are a non-thing.
Satellites captured on most astronomical cameras are a non-thing. The
satellites are not readily visible to the naked eye when out doing
simple skygazing. Another non-thing.

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by: W - Mon, 24 May 2021 11:28 UTC

On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 9:50:40 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> On Sunday, 23 May 2021 at 21:30:26 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > On Sun, 23 May 2021 15:51:54 -0700 (PDT), MitchAlsup
> > <Mitch...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> > >> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:08:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > >> > https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html
> > >>
> > >> Only visible at dawn and dusk!
> > ><
> > >visible all night long at the eyepiece.
> > Why would anybody at an eyepiece care? It spends a fraction of a
> > second in the field.
> It's annoying, distracting, disturbing. How would you like to watch TV when streaks running through it.?

What peterson says is unimportant. We do not hear his words.

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by: Chris L Peterson - Mon, 24 May 2021 12:54 UTC

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>On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 9:50:40 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
>> On Sunday, 23 May 2021 at 21:30:26 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> > On Sun, 23 May 2021 15:51:54 -0700 (PDT), MitchAlsup
>> > <Mitch...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
>> > >> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:08:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
>> > >> > https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html
>> > >>
>> > >> Only visible at dawn and dusk!
>> > ><
>> > >visible all night long at the eyepiece.
>> > Why would anybody at an eyepiece care? It spends a fraction of a
>> > second in the field.
>> It's annoying, distracting, disturbing. How would you like to watch TV when streaks running through it.?
>
>What peterson says is unimportant. We do not hear his words.

A consequence of your dogma and lack of intellect, not my words.

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On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 8:54:19 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Mon, 24 May 2021 04:28:03 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 9:50:40 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> >> On Sunday, 23 May 2021 at 21:30:26 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> > On Sun, 23 May 2021 15:51:54 -0700 (PDT), MitchAlsup
> >> > <Mitch...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> >> > >> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:08:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> >> > >> > https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Only visible at dawn and dusk!
> >> > ><
> >> > >visible all night long at the eyepiece.
> >> > Why would anybody at an eyepiece care? It spends a fraction of a
> >> > second in the field.
> >> It's annoying, distracting, disturbing. How would you like to watch TV when streaks running through it.?
> >
> >What peterson says is unimportant. We do not hear his words.
> A consequence of your dogma and lack of intellect, not my words.

What you say is unimportant (to everyone.) We (everyone) do not hear your words.

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These satellites will soon outnumber the stars of similar magnitudes. There is no way for that not to be a big problem.

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by: fred k. engels® - Mon, 24 May 2021 13:42 UTC

Prime Minister Justin Blackface Trudeau is a fucking prick

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These satellites will soon outnumber the stars of similar magnitudes. There
is no way for that not to be a big problem.

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by: Chris L Peterson - Mon, 24 May 2021 14:04 UTC

On Mon, 24 May 2021 06:33:08 -0700 (PDT), W <wsnell01@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 9:50:40 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
>> On Sunday, 23 May 2021 at 21:30:26 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> > On Sun, 23 May 2021 15:51:54 -0700 (PDT), MitchAlsup
>> > <Mitch...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
>> > >> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:08:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
>> > >> > https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html
>> > >>
>> > >> Only visible at dawn and dusk!
>> > ><
>> > >visible all night long at the eyepiece.
>> > Why would anybody at an eyepiece care? It spends a fraction of a
>> > second in the field.
>> It's annoying, distracting, disturbing. How would you like to watch TV when streaks running through it.?
>
>These satellites will soon outnumber the stars of similar magnitudes. There is no way for that not to be a big problem.

Bad logic. The stars are effectively stationary. The satellites are
transient. They are also too dim for most people to even see them.
These are not easy satellites to observe.

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by: W - Mon, 24 May 2021 16:41 UTC

On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 10:04:25 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Mon, 24 May 2021 06:33:08 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 9:50:40 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> >> On Sunday, 23 May 2021 at 21:30:26 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> > On Sun, 23 May 2021 15:51:54 -0700 (PDT), MitchAlsup
> >> > <Mitch...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> >> > >> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:08:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> >> > >> > https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Only visible at dawn and dusk!
> >> > ><
> >> > >visible all night long at the eyepiece.
> >> > Why would anybody at an eyepiece care? It spends a fraction of a
> >> > second in the field.
> >> It's annoying, distracting, disturbing. How would you like to watch TV when streaks running through it.?
> >
> >These satellites will soon outnumber the stars of similar magnitudes. There is no way for that not to be a big problem.
> Bad logic. The stars are effectively stationary. The satellites are
> transient. They are also too dim for most people to even see them.
> These are not easy satellites to observe.

You are an idiot. These satellites will be of similar brightness to the majority of the stars seen in the field of a binocular. Eventually, these satellites will be more numerous than those stars.

What you say is not important.

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by: fred k. engels® - Mon, 24 May 2021 18:28 UTC

ALL RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!
Eventually, these Chicom spy satellites will be more numerous than those
stars!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Then what's that goddamn Justin Blackface Trudeau the fucking prick gotta do
about it?

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On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 10:04:25 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Mon, 24 May 2021 06:33:08 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 9:50:40 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> >> On Sunday, 23 May 2021 at 21:30:26 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> > On Sun, 23 May 2021 15:51:54 -0700 (PDT), MitchAlsup
> >> > <Mitch...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> >> > >> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:08:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> >> > >> > https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Only visible at dawn and dusk!
> >> > ><
> >> > >visible all night long at the eyepiece.
> >> > Why would anybody at an eyepiece care? It spends a fraction of a
> >> > second in the field.
> >> It's annoying, distracting, disturbing. How would you like to watch TV
> >> when streaks running through it.?
> >
> >These satellites will soon outnumber the stars of similar magnitudes.
> >There is no way for that not to be a big problem.
> Bad logic. The stars are effectively stationary. The satellites are
> transient. They are also too dim for most people to even see them.
> These are not easy satellites to observe.

You are an idiot. These satellites will be of similar brightness to the
majority of the stars seen in the field of a binocular. Eventually, these
satellites will be more numerous than those stars.

What you say is not important.

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by: Chris L Peterson - Mon, 24 May 2021 22:14 UTC

On Mon, 24 May 2021 09:41:35 -0700 (PDT), W <wsnell01@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 10:04:25 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 May 2021 06:33:08 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 9:50:40 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
>> >> On Sunday, 23 May 2021 at 21:30:26 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
>> >> > On Sun, 23 May 2021 15:51:54 -0700 (PDT), MitchAlsup
>> >> > <Mitch...@aol.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
>> >> > >> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:08:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
>> >> > >> > https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Only visible at dawn and dusk!
>> >> > ><
>> >> > >visible all night long at the eyepiece.
>> >> > Why would anybody at an eyepiece care? It spends a fraction of a
>> >> > second in the field.
>> >> It's annoying, distracting, disturbing. How would you like to watch TV when streaks running through it.?
>> >
>> >These satellites will soon outnumber the stars of similar magnitudes. There is no way for that not to be a big problem.
>> Bad logic. The stars are effectively stationary. The satellites are
>> transient. They are also too dim for most people to even see them.
>> These are not easy satellites to observe.
>
>You are an idiot. These satellites will be of similar brightness to the majority of the stars seen in the field of a binocular. Eventually, these satellites will be more numerous than those stars.

Again, so what? A transient satellite passing through a binocular
field. Big deal. And if you're focused on one area, it's still going
to be minutes between events. These pose not threat to ordinary naked
eye viewing of the sky, no threat to telescopic observation, no threat
to the vast majority of imaging.

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On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:14:59 PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> On Mon, 24 May 2021 09:41:35 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 10:04:25 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> On Mon, 24 May 2021 06:33:08 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 9:50:40 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> >> >> On Sunday, 23 May 2021 at 21:30:26 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> >> >> > On Sun, 23 May 2021 15:51:54 -0700 (PDT), MitchAlsup
> >> >> > <Mitch...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> >> >> > >> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:08:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> >> >> > >> > https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Only visible at dawn and dusk!
> >> >> > ><
> >> >> > >visible all night long at the eyepiece.
> >> >> > Why would anybody at an eyepiece care? It spends a fraction of a
> >> >> > second in the field.
> >> >> It's annoying, distracting, disturbing. How would you like to watch TV when streaks running through it.?
> >> >
> >> >These satellites will soon outnumber the stars of similar magnitudes. There is no way for that not to be a big problem.
> >> Bad logic. The stars are effectively stationary. The satellites are
> >> transient. They are also too dim for most people to even see them.
> >> These are not easy satellites to observe.
> >
> >You are an idiot. These satellites will be of similar brightness to the majority of the stars seen in the field of a binocular. Eventually, these satellites will be more numerous than those stars.
> Again, so what? A transient satellite passing through a binocular
> field. Big deal. And if you're focused on one area, it's still going
> to be minutes between events. These pose not threat to ordinary naked
> eye viewing of the sky, no threat to telescopic observation, no threat
> to the vast majority of imaging.

It's not a single "transient" satellite (whatever the * you mean by "transient'") it's FIFTY satellites simultaneously visible in the field of a typical binocular. Most of the satellites will be brighter than most of the few dozen stars visible in the field.

Obviously, you know very little about astronomy.

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by: palsing - Tue, 25 May 2021 02:17 UTC

On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:30:32 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 8:54:19 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 May 2021 04:28:03 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 9:50:40 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> > >> On Sunday, 23 May 2021 at 21:30:26 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > >> > On Sun, 23 May 2021 15:51:54 -0700 (PDT), MitchAlsup
> > >> > <Mitch...@aol.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> > >> > >> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:08:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > >> > >> > https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Only visible at dawn and dusk!
> > >> > ><
> > >> > >visible all night long at the eyepiece.
> > >> > Why would anybody at an eyepiece care? It spends a fraction of a
> > >> > second in the field.
> > >> It's annoying, distracting, disturbing. How would you like to watch TV when streaks running through it.?
> > >
> > >What peterson says is unimportant. We do not hear his words.

> > A consequence of your dogma and lack of intellect, not my words.

> What you say is unimportant (to everyone.) We (everyone) do not hear your words.

Do you have a mouse in your pocket? Chris Peterson has forgotten more physics and astronomy than you have ever known. I respect his view, even if I occasionally do not agree with it.

I, one of many, hear his words. Actually, it is your words that are dismissed out of hand by most folks here. You are just as big an asshole now as you have ever been, and that's a fact!

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by: W - Tue, 25 May 2021 03:38 UTC

On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 10:17:40 PM UTC-4, palsing wrote:
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:30:32 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
> > On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 8:54:19 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > > On Mon, 24 May 2021 04:28:03 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 9:50:40 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> > > >> On Sunday, 23 May 2021 at 21:30:26 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > > >> > On Sun, 23 May 2021 15:51:54 -0700 (PDT), MitchAlsup
> > > >> > <Mitch...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> > > >> > >> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:08:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > > >> > >> > https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> Only visible at dawn and dusk!
> > > >> > ><
> > > >> > >visible all night long at the eyepiece.
> > > >> > Why would anybody at an eyepiece care? It spends a fraction of a
> > > >> > second in the field.
> > > >> It's annoying, distracting, disturbing. How would you like to watch TV when streaks running through it.?
> > > >
> > > >What peterson says is unimportant. We do not hear his words.
>
> > > A consequence of your dogma and lack of intellect, not my words.
>
> > What you say is unimportant (to everyone.) We (everyone) do not hear your words.
> Do you have a mouse in your pocket? Chris Peterson has forgotten more physics and astronomy than you have ever known. I respect his view, even if I occasionally do not agree with it.
>
> I, one of many, hear his words. Actually, it is your words that are dismissed out of hand by most folks here. You are just as big an asshole now as you have ever been, and that's a fact!

The only people who say that these satellites aren't are problem are those who stand to make money from them and their useful idiots such as you and peterson. Astronomers including those in the IAU have valid concerns about the situation. You are outnumbered and as usual out-classed. You are the a**-h***. But then we all know that.

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by: palsing - Tue, 25 May 2021 03:41 UTC

On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 8:38:34 PM UTC-7, W wrote:
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 10:17:40 PM UTC-4, palsing wrote:
> > On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:30:32 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
> > > On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 8:54:19 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 24 May 2021 04:28:03 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 9:50:40 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> > > > >> On Sunday, 23 May 2021 at 21:30:26 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > > > >> > On Sun, 23 May 2021 15:51:54 -0700 (PDT), MitchAlsup
> > > > >> > <Mitch...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > >On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> > > > >> > >> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:08:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > > > >> > >> > https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> Only visible at dawn and dusk!
> > > > >> > ><
> > > > >> > >visible all night long at the eyepiece.
> > > > >> > Why would anybody at an eyepiece care? It spends a fraction of a
> > > > >> > second in the field.
> > > > >> It's annoying, distracting, disturbing. How would you like to watch TV when streaks running through it.?
> > > > >
> > > > >What peterson says is unimportant. We do not hear his words.
> >
> > > > A consequence of your dogma and lack of intellect, not my words.
> >
> > > What you say is unimportant (to everyone.) We (everyone) do not hear your words.
> > Do you have a mouse in your pocket? Chris Peterson has forgotten more physics and astronomy than you have ever known. I respect his view, even if I occasionally do not agree with it.
> >
> > I, one of many, hear his words. Actually, it is your words that are dismissed out of hand by most folks here. You are just as big an asshole now as you have ever been, and that's a fact!
> -
>
> The only people who say that these satellites aren't are problem are those who stand to make money from them and their useful idiots such as you and peterson. Astronomers including those in the IAU have valid concerns about the situation. You are outnumbered and as usual out-classed. You are the a**-h***. But then we all know that.

If you actually had a brain you would undoubtedly take it out and play with it...

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On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 11:41:25 PM UTC-4, palsing wrote:
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 8:38:34 PM UTC-7, W wrote:
> > On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 10:17:40 PM UTC-4, palsing wrote:
> > > On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:30:32 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
> > > > On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 8:54:19 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, 24 May 2021 04:28:03 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 9:50:40 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> > > > > >> On Sunday, 23 May 2021 at 21:30:26 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > > > > >> > On Sun, 23 May 2021 15:51:54 -0700 (PDT), MitchAlsup
> > > > > >> > <Mitch...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > >On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> > > > > >> > >> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:08:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > > > > >> > >> > https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> Only visible at dawn and dusk!
> > > > > >> > ><
> > > > > >> > >visible all night long at the eyepiece.
> > > > > >> > Why would anybody at an eyepiece care? It spends a fraction of a
> > > > > >> > second in the field.
> > > > > >> It's annoying, distracting, disturbing. How would you like to watch TV when streaks running through it.?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >What peterson says is unimportant. We do not hear his words.
> > >
> > > > > A consequence of your dogma and lack of intellect, not my words.
> > >
> > > > What you say is unimportant (to everyone.) We (everyone) do not hear your words.
> > > Do you have a mouse in your pocket? Chris Peterson has forgotten more physics and astronomy than you have ever known. I respect his view, even if I occasionally do not agree with it.
> > >
> > > I, one of many, hear his words. Actually, it is your words that are dismissed out of hand by most folks here. You are just as big an asshole now as you have ever been, and that's a fact!
> > -
> >
> > The only people who say that these satellites aren't are problem are those who stand to make money from them and their useful idiots such as you and peterson. Astronomers including those in the IAU have valid concerns about the situation. You are outnumbered and as usual out-classed. You are the a**-h***. But then we all know that.
> If you actually had a brain you would undoubtedly take it out and play with it...

If you actually had a brain you would undoubtedly take it out and then misplace it. Not that it would be any great loss.

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by: palsing - Tue, 25 May 2021 04:07 UTC

On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 8:51:36 PM UTC-7, W wrote:
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 11:41:25 PM UTC-4, palsing wrote:
> > On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 8:38:34 PM UTC-7, W wrote:
> > > On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 10:17:40 PM UTC-4, palsing wrote:
> > > > On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:30:32 AM UTC-7, W wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 8:54:19 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, 24 May 2021 04:28:03 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 9:50:40 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
> > > > > > >> On Sunday, 23 May 2021 at 21:30:26 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
> > > > > > >> > On Sun, 23 May 2021 15:51:54 -0700 (PDT), MitchAlsup
> > > > > > >> > <Mitch...@aol.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > >On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 9:57:29 PM UTC-5, StarDust wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> On Sunday, May 9, 2021 at 6:08:29 PM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >> > https://phys.org/news/2021-05-satellites-baffles-residents-bugs-astronomers.html
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> Only visible at dawn and dusk!
> > > > > > >> > ><
> > > > > > >> > >visible all night long at the eyepiece.
> > > > > > >> > Why would anybody at an eyepiece care? It spends a fraction of a
> > > > > > >> > second in the field.
> > > > > > >> It's annoying, distracting, disturbing. How would you like to watch TV when streaks running through it.?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >What peterson says is unimportant. We do not hear his words.
> > > >
> > > > > > A consequence of your dogma and lack of intellect, not my words..
> > > >
> > > > > What you say is unimportant (to everyone.) We (everyone) do not hear your words.
> > > > Do you have a mouse in your pocket? Chris Peterson has forgotten more physics and astronomy than you have ever known. I respect his view, even if I occasionally do not agree with it.
> > > >
> > > > I, one of many, hear his words. Actually, it is your words that are dismissed out of hand by most folks here. You are just as big an asshole now as you have ever been, and that's a fact!
> > > -
> > >
> > > The only people who say that these satellites aren't are problem are those who stand to make money from them and their useful idiots such as you and peterson. Astronomers including those in the IAU have valid concerns about the situation. You are outnumbered and as usual out-classed. You are the a**-h***. But then we all know that.

> > If you actually had a brain you would undoubtedly take it out and play with it...

> If you actually had a brain you would undoubtedly take it out and then misplace it. Not that it would be any great loss.

So... exactly how is Chris Peterson, or me, for that matter, making money from Musk's satellites? Or, more likely, are you just making it up as you go along? Are you just too stupid to go along and make a profit?

Put up or shut up... that seems reasonable!

As if you had a clue...

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by: W - Tue, 25 May 2021 12:19 UTC

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 12:07:10 AM UTC-4, palsing wrote:
> On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 8:51:36 PM UTC-7, W wrote:
> > On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 11:41:25 PM UTC-4, palsing wrote:
> > > On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 8:38:34 PM UTC-7, W wrote:

> > > > The only people who say that these satellites aren't are problem are those who stand to make money from them and their useful idiots such as you and peterson. Astronomers including those in the IAU have valid concerns about the situation. You are outnumbered and as usual out-classed. You are the a**-h***. But then we all know that.
>
> > > If you actually had a brain you would undoubtedly take it out and play with it...
>
> > If you actually had a brain you would undoubtedly take it out and then misplace it. Not that it would be any great loss.
> So... exactly how is Chris Peterson, or me, for that matter, making money from Musk's satellites?

I never said nor implied that either you or peterson were making money from the satellites. You need to learn how to read and think.

Why are you defending the launch of 42,000+ satellites that will deface the night sky?

Take the critics seriously. They make a valid point.

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On Mon, 24 May 2021 20:38:33 -0700 (PDT), W <wsnell01@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>The only people who say that these satellites aren't are problem are those who stand to make money from them and their useful idiots such as you and peterson. Astronomers including those in the IAU have valid concerns about the situation. You are outnumbered and as usual out-classed. You are the a**-h***. But then we all know that.

There are valid concerns. But in the big scheme they are pretty small,
and they are not the concerns you regularly voice here. The only
significant professional astronomical impact is with a couple of wide
field survey telescopes. There is no amateur impact at all. And there
are huge benefits to the technology. Good policy is made by weighing
costs and benefits, and in this case, it's difficult to argue that the
latter don't considerably outweigh the former.

Live long and prosper. -- Spock, "Amok Time", stardate 3372.7

tech / sci.astro.amateur / More proof sky being ruined by satellites

Subject	Author
More proof sky being ruined by satellites	RichA
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	StarDust
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	MitchAlsup
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	Chris L Peterson
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	RichA
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	Chris L Peterson
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	W
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	Chris L Peterson
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	W
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	palsing
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	W
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	palsing
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	W
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	palsing
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	W
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	Chris L Peterson
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	W
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	W
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	Chris L Peterson
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	MitchAlsup
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	palsing
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	W
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	Chris L Peterson
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	MitchAlsup
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	Chris L Peterson
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	fred k. engels®
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	W
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	fred k. engels®
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	W
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	fred k. engels®
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	Chris L Peterson
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	W
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	fred k. engels®
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	Chris L Peterson
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	W
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	Chris L Peterson
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	W
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	Chris L Peterson
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	W
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	Chris L Peterson
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	W
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	Chris L Peterson
Re: More proof sky being ruined by satellites	fred k. engels®