Well, I just tested positive for covid-19. While I feel like crap it isn't worse than a seasonal flu. And when this takes maybe a week to get over, natural immunity is 27 times that of the vaccines with no possible heart failures or strokes from vaccine.

What's more, we have no idea of the danger period of these vaccines since they are showing DNA evidence that they are now in the liver of people who have taken these vaccines.

So I won't be riding for over a week from now since I don't want to endanger the people I ride with who are all old.

On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 12:07:10 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> Well, I just tested positive for covid-19. While I feel like crap it isn't worse than a seasonal flu. And when this takes maybe a week to get over, natural immunity is 27 times that of the vaccines with no possible heart failures or strokes from vaccine.
>
> What's more, we have no idea of the danger period of these vaccines since they are showing DNA evidence that they are now in the liver of people who have taken these vaccines.
>
> So I won't be riding for over a week from now since I don't want to endanger the people I ride with who are all old.

Since I have Frank's address I should send him an envelope from the National Organization for Gun Control that I have coughed into. Or sneezed. Franks is so hot to take away other people's guns that he would rip it open and smell the sweet smell of reducing the Constitution to nothing more than something to wipe your shoes on.

On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 2:13:22 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 12:07:10 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > Well, I just tested positive for covid-19. While I feel like crap it isn't worse than a seasonal flu. And when this takes maybe a week to get over, natural immunity is 27 times that of the vaccines with no possible heart failures or strokes from vaccine.
> >
> > What's more, we have no idea of the danger period of these vaccines since they are showing DNA evidence that they are now in the liver of people who have taken these vaccines.
> >
> > So I won't be riding for over a week from now since I don't want to endanger the people I ride with who are all old.
> Since I have Frank's address I should send him an envelope from the National Organization for Gun Control that I have coughed into. Or sneezed. Franks is so hot to take away other people's guns that he would rip it open and smell the sweet smell of reducing the Constitution to nothing more than something to wipe your shoes on.
Get better and report back
Deacon mark

Op donderdag 9 juni 2022 om 21:13:22 UTC+2 schreef Tom Kunich:
> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 12:07:10 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > Well, I just tested positive for covid-19. While I feel like crap it isn't worse than a seasonal flu. And when this takes maybe a week to get over, natural immunity is 27 times that of the vaccines with no possible heart failures or strokes from vaccine.
> >
> > What's more, we have no idea of the danger period of these vaccines since they are showing DNA evidence that they are now in the liver of people who have taken these vaccines.
> >
> > So I won't be riding for over a week from now since I don't want to endanger the people I ride with who are all old.
> Since I have Frank's address I should send him an envelope from the National Organization for Gun Control that I have coughed into. Or sneezed. Franks is so hot to take away other people's guns that he would rip it open and smell the sweet smell of reducing the Constitution to nothing more than something to wipe your shoes on.

Is this necessary and your priority at the moment? I would guess not.

Lou

Lou Holtman wrote:
> Op donderdag 9 juni 2022 om 21:13:22 UTC+2 schreef Tom Kunich:
>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 12:07:10 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> Well, I just tested positive for covid-19. While I feel like crap
>>> it isn't worse than a seasonal flu. And when this takes maybe a
>>> week to get over, natural immunity is 27 times that of the
>>> vaccines with no possible heart failures or strokes from
>>> vaccine.
>>>
>>> What's more, we have no idea of the danger period of these
>>> vaccines since they are showing DNA evidence that they are now in
>>> the liver of people who have taken these vaccines.
>>>
>>> So I won't be riding for over a week from now since I don't want
>>> to endanger the people I ride with who are all old.
>> Since I have Frank's address I should send him an envelope from the
>> National Organization for Gun Control that I have coughed into. Or
>> sneezed. Franks is so hot to take away other people's guns that he
>> would rip it open and smell the sweet smell of reducing the
>> Constitution to nothing more than something to wipe your shoes on.
>
> Is this necessary and your priority at the moment? I would guess
> not.

Maybe Tom gets it if we tell him his only mission now is to turn off the
computah screens and follow the battle plan he and his team should have
printed out and ready in his kitchen, primarily, and medicine chest if
necessary. Tom, this is your chance for a lasting, glorious victory
over the Chicom-PLA, The Democrats, Fauxi, AND Frank & the Gang!

--
<https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/FLCCC-Protocols-–-A-Guide-to-the-Management-of-COVID-19.pdf>

On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 1:09:27 PM UTC-7, deaco...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 2:13:22 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 12:07:10 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > Well, I just tested positive for covid-19. While I feel like crap it isn't worse than a seasonal flu. And when this takes maybe a week to get over, natural immunity is 27 times that of the vaccines with no possible heart failures or strokes from vaccine.
> > >
> > > What's more, we have no idea of the danger period of these vaccines since they are showing DNA evidence that they are now in the liver of people who have taken these vaccines.
> > >
> > > So I won't be riding for over a week from now since I don't want to endanger the people I ride with who are all old.
> > Since I have Frank's address I should send him an envelope from the National Organization for Gun Control that I have coughed into. Or sneezed. Franks is so hot to take away other people's guns that he would rip it open and smell the sweet smell of reducing the Constitution to nothing more than something to wipe your shoes on.
> Get better and report back
> Deacon mark

Most of the people that are contracting covid-19 variants have been vaccinated. My wife is showing signs and she was vaccinated.

In your medicine cabinet keep something for harsh coughs that present sputum. This also leads to a VERY sore throat so have the proper painkiller for that. I am getting along with Ibuprofen since I can't go up to the store for anything else. But this isn't particularly helpful making the pain about half what it is without. You might have problems sleeping and Night Quill might be a good idea. The copies of that stuff do not work.

Just so you know you're not imagining you might want to keep a home test kit around, They are simple and easy to use. There are two types. Type 1 which keeps the test liquid in the container that will be used and Type 2 which keeps the test liquid separate sealed container which is probably a better idea since you eliminate air leaks and degradation of the test liquid. The test strip is supposed to take 15 minutes to show but mine took less than 10 seconds.

This variant is accompanied with a painful headache that nothing seems to help and you just have to put up with it.

Like I said, if you get the seasonal flu you also have as much disability. Keep a human thermometer around since I guess 3 days without a fever spells the end of it. I had three days of fever and today none.

On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 1:00:13 AM UTC-7, Lou Holtman wrote:
> Op donderdag 9 juni 2022 om 21:13:22 UTC+2 schreef Tom Kunich:
> > On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 12:07:10 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > Well, I just tested positive for covid-19. While I feel like crap it isn't worse than a seasonal flu. And when this takes maybe a week to get over, natural immunity is 27 times that of the vaccines with no possible heart failures or strokes from vaccine.
> > >
> > > What's more, we have no idea of the danger period of these vaccines since they are showing DNA evidence that they are now in the liver of people who have taken these vaccines.
> > >
> > > So I won't be riding for over a week from now since I don't want to endanger the people I ride with who are all old.
> > Since I have Frank's address I should send him an envelope from the National Organization for Gun Control that I have coughed into. Or sneezed. Franks is so hot to take away other people's guns that he would rip it open and smell the sweet smell of reducing the Constitution to nothing more than something to wipe your shoes on.
> Is this necessary and your priority at the moment? I would guess not.

Lou, you will probably catch this stuff since I got it without being near anyone. So it is best to be prepared with some of the available medications and keep your sense of humor.

On 6/10/2022 11:15 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 1:09:27 PM UTC-7, deaco...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 2:13:22 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 12:07:10 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>> Well, I just tested positive for covid-19. While I feel like crap it isn't worse than a seasonal flu. And when this takes maybe a week to get over, natural immunity is 27 times that of the vaccines with no possible heart failures or strokes from vaccine.
>>>>
>>>> What's more, we have no idea of the danger period of these vaccines since they are showing DNA evidence that they are now in the liver of people who have taken these vaccines.
>>>>
>>>> So I won't be riding for over a week from now since I don't want to endanger the people I ride with who are all old.
>>> Since I have Frank's address I should send him an envelope from the National Organization for Gun Control that I have coughed into. Or sneezed. Franks is so hot to take away other people's guns that he would rip it open and smell the sweet smell of reducing the Constitution to nothing more than something to wipe your shoes on.
>> Get better and report back
>> Deacon mark
>
> Most of the people that are contracting covid-19 variants have been vaccinated. My wife is showing signs and she was vaccinated.
>
> In your medicine cabinet keep something for harsh coughs that present sputum. This also leads to a VERY sore throat so have the proper painkiller for that. I am getting along with Ibuprofen since I can't go up to the store for anything else. But this isn't particularly helpful making the pain about half what it is without. You might have problems sleeping and Night Quill might be a good idea. The copies of that stuff do not work.
>
> Just so you know you're not imagining you might want to keep a home test kit around, They are simple and easy to use. There are two types. Type 1 which keeps the test liquid in the container that will be used and Type 2 which keeps the test liquid separate sealed container which is probably a better idea since you eliminate air leaks and degradation of the test liquid. The test strip is supposed to take 15 minutes to show but mine took less than 10 seconds.
>
> This variant is accompanied with a painful headache that nothing seems to help and you just have to put up with it.
>
> Like I said, if you get the seasonal flu you also have as much disability. Keep a human thermometer around since I guess 3 days without a fever spells the end of it. I had three days of fever and today none.
>

From this morning:

https://www.conservativereview.com/portugal-as-an-enduring-embarrassment-of-the-failure-of-the-mass-vaccination-campaign-2657482411.html

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 3:13:07 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> Lou Holtman wrote:
> > Op donderdag 9 juni 2022 om 21:13:22 UTC+2 schreef Tom Kunich:
> >> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 12:07:10 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>> Well, I just tested positive for covid-19. While I feel like crap
> >>> it isn't worse than a seasonal flu. And when this takes maybe a
> >>> week to get over, natural immunity is 27 times that of the
> >>> vaccines with no possible heart failures or strokes from
> >>> vaccine.
> >>>
> >>> What's more, we have no idea of the danger period of these
> >>> vaccines since they are showing DNA evidence that they are now in
> >>> the liver of people who have taken these vaccines.
> >>>
> >>> So I won't be riding for over a week from now since I don't want
> >>> to endanger the people I ride with who are all old.
> >> Since I have Frank's address I should send him an envelope from the
> >> National Organization for Gun Control that I have coughed into. Or
> >> sneezed. Franks is so hot to take away other people's guns that he
> >> would rip it open and smell the sweet smell of reducing the
> >> Constitution to nothing more than something to wipe your shoes on.
> >
> > Is this necessary and your priority at the moment? I would guess
> > not.
> Maybe Tom gets it if we tell him his only mission now is to turn off the
> computah screens and follow the battle plan he and his team should have
> printed out and ready in his kitchen, primarily, and medicine chest if
> necessary. Tom, this is your chance for a lasting, glorious victory
> over the Chicom-PLA, The Democrats, Fauxi, AND Frank & the Gang!
>
> --
> <https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/FLCCC-Protocols-–-A-Guide-to-the-Management-of-COVID-19.pdf>

My "team"? Are you under the impression that I would dare to infect someone else? While it is my impression that this is a rather mild disease and CDC statistics show that, there are still rather mild diseases that will kill a particular group of people. I would prefer not to be a party to that. I would avoid your references to treatment as one of the treatments is use of psychological anti-depressants. This shows a rather strong lack of actual science. Most of the other so-called treatments are for mild cases and there is no real science that actually supports the use of many of the scattered medications that can appear to work when it is simply the victim's own immune system operating.

What does the computer have to do with anything? Are you under the impression that covid is the result of a computer? Or that other people that have been frightened out of their wits with threats of imminent death should not see how harmless this stuff actually is? After all, from the first appearance of this pandemic I have argued the the entire story was fully described by its effects in North-Eastern Italy - Only old people in very ill health need be worried by this disease. When the average age of death from covid is 10 years older than the average age of death, if you cannot interpret that you have problems. What we have is people dying WITH covid and not FROM covid. These same people could die from any seasonal flu and you wouldn't say that they died FROM the flu but rather WITH the flu. It is simply an additional load on a rapidly failing health.

On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 9:29:21 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> On 6/10/2022 11:15 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 1:09:27 PM UTC-7, deaco...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 2:13:22 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 12:07:10 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>> Well, I just tested positive for covid-19. While I feel like crap it isn't worse than a seasonal flu. And when this takes maybe a week to get over, natural immunity is 27 times that of the vaccines with no possible heart failures or strokes from vaccine.
> >>>>
> >>>> What's more, we have no idea of the danger period of these vaccines since they are showing DNA evidence that they are now in the liver of people who have taken these vaccines.
> >>>>
> >>>> So I won't be riding for over a week from now since I don't want to endanger the people I ride with who are all old.
> >>> Since I have Frank's address I should send him an envelope from the National Organization for Gun Control that I have coughed into. Or sneezed. Franks is so hot to take away other people's guns that he would rip it open and smell the sweet smell of reducing the Constitution to nothing more than something to wipe your shoes on.
> >> Get better and report back
> >> Deacon mark
> >
> > Most of the people that are contracting covid-19 variants have been vaccinated. My wife is showing signs and she was vaccinated.
> >
> > In your medicine cabinet keep something for harsh coughs that present sputum. This also leads to a VERY sore throat so have the proper painkiller for that. I am getting along with Ibuprofen since I can't go up to the store for anything else. But this isn't particularly helpful making the pain about half what it is without. You might have problems sleeping and Night Quill might be a good idea. The copies of that stuff do not work.
> >
> > Just so you know you're not imagining you might want to keep a home test kit around, They are simple and easy to use. There are two types. Type 1 which keeps the test liquid in the container that will be used and Type 2 which keeps the test liquid separate sealed container which is probably a better idea since you eliminate air leaks and degradation of the test liquid. The test strip is supposed to take 15 minutes to show but mine took less than 10 seconds.
> >
> > This variant is accompanied with a painful headache that nothing seems to help and you just have to put up with it.
> >
> > Like I said, if you get the seasonal flu you also have as much disability. Keep a human thermometer around since I guess 3 days without a fever spells the end of it. I had three days of fever and today none.
> >
> From this morning:
>
>
> https://www.conservativereview.com/portugal-as-an-enduring-embarrassment-of-the-failure-of-the-mass-vaccination-campaign-2657482411.html

At what point do you suppose that someone will finally ask the question - why do supposed covid-19 deaths so closely match the vaccination rates? Now that we know that Fauci, and the management of the NIH have been given $300,000,000 by the vaccine companies perhaps that is the reason that question hasn't been asked where it might do some good.

Tom Kunich wrote:

> medications
> that can appear to work when it is simply the victim's own immune
> system operating.

> What does the computer have to do with anything?

Something that presents you content that annoys you has a lot to do with
your immune system. It's you who claimed to feel like crap, and I only
want you to get better. Therefore, I won't respond until you are back
on your bike.

On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 10:07:09 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> > medications
> > that can appear to work when it is simply the victim's own immune
> > system operating.
>
> > What does the computer have to do with anything?
> Something that presents you content that annoys you has a lot to do with
> your immune system. It's you who claimed to feel like crap, and I only
> want you to get better. Therefore, I won't respond until you are back
> on your bike.

Well I appreciate your thoughtfulness but irritation doesn't have any effect on your immune system though constant fear most certainly does. So while my postings might irritate you and some others, the demonstration that this is nothing to fear helps others.

On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 12:13:03 +0200, Sepp Ruf <inqbel@Safe-mail.net>
wrote:

>Lou Holtman wrote:
>> Op donderdag 9 juni 2022 om 21:13:22 UTC+2 schreef Tom Kunich:
>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 12:07:10 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>> Well, I just tested positive for covid-19. While I feel like crap
>>>> it isn't worse than a seasonal flu. And when this takes maybe a
>>>> week to get over, natural immunity is 27 times that of the
>>>> vaccines with no possible heart failures or strokes from
>>>> vaccine.
>>>>
>>>> What's more, we have no idea of the danger period of these
>>>> vaccines since they are showing DNA evidence that they are now in
>>>> the liver of people who have taken these vaccines.
>>>>
>>>> So I won't be riding for over a week from now since I don't want
>>>> to endanger the people I ride with who are all old.
>>> Since I have Frank's address I should send him an envelope from the
>>> National Organization for Gun Control that I have coughed into. Or
>>> sneezed. Franks is so hot to take away other people's guns that he
>>> would rip it open and smell the sweet smell of reducing the
>>> Constitution to nothing more than something to wipe your shoes on.
>>
>> Is this necessary and your priority at the moment? I would guess
>> not.
>
>Maybe Tom gets it if we tell him his only mission now is to turn off the
>computah screens and follow the battle plan he and his team should have
>printed out and ready in his kitchen, primarily, and medicine chest if
>necessary. Tom, this is your chance for a lasting, glorious victory
>over the Chicom-PLA, The Democrats, Fauxi, AND Frank & the Gang!

Or maybe he isn't sick at all. A recent news article here noted that
the Health Organization, here, has announced that national hospitals
will NOT admit anyone based on the results of the, so called, "home
test kits" as, apparently they are known to give false results.

So the question might be asked as to "how was he tested"? By an
accredited medical agency? Or with a "home kit"?
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Fri, 10 Jun 2022 09:51:10 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 9:29:21 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 6/10/2022 11:15 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> > On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 1:09:27 PM UTC-7, deaco...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 2:13:22 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 12:07:10 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
>> >>>> Well, I just tested positive for covid-19. While I feel like crap it isn't worse than a seasonal flu. And when this takes maybe a week to get over, natural immunity is 27 times that of the vaccines with no possible heart failures or strokes from vaccine.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> What's more, we have no idea of the danger period of these vaccines since they are showing DNA evidence that they are now in the liver of people who have taken these vaccines.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So I won't be riding for over a week from now since I don't want to endanger the people I ride with who are all old.
>> >>> Since I have Frank's address I should send him an envelope from the National Organization for Gun Control that I have coughed into. Or sneezed. Franks is so hot to take away other people's guns that he would rip it open and smell the sweet smell of reducing the Constitution to nothing more than something to wipe your shoes on.
>> >> Get better and report back
>> >> Deacon mark
>> >
>> > Most of the people that are contracting covid-19 variants have been vaccinated. My wife is showing signs and she was vaccinated.
>> >
>> > In your medicine cabinet keep something for harsh coughs that present sputum. This also leads to a VERY sore throat so have the proper painkiller for that. I am getting along with Ibuprofen since I can't go up to the store for anything else. But this isn't particularly helpful making the pain about half what it is without. You might have problems sleeping and Night Quill might be a good idea. The copies of that stuff do not work.
>> >
>> > Just so you know you're not imagining you might want to keep a home test kit around, They are simple and easy to use. There are two types. Type 1 which keeps the test liquid in the container that will be used and Type 2 which keeps the test liquid separate sealed container which is probably a better idea since you eliminate air leaks and degradation of the test liquid. The test strip is supposed to take 15 minutes to show but mine took less than 10 seconds.
>> >
>> > This variant is accompanied with a painful headache that nothing seems to help and you just have to put up with it.
>> >
>> > Like I said, if you get the seasonal flu you also have as much disability. Keep a human thermometer around since I guess 3 days without a fever spells the end of it. I had three days of fever and today none.
>> >
>> From this morning:
>>
>>
>> https://www.conservativereview.com/portugal-as-an-enduring-embarrassment-of-the-failure-of-the-mass-vaccination-campaign-2657482411.html
>
>At what point do you suppose that someone will finally ask the question - why do supposed covid-19 deaths so closely match the vaccination rates? Now that we know that Fauci, and the management of the NIH have been given $300,000,000 by the vaccine companies perhaps that is the reason that question hasn't been asked where it might do some good.

"supposed covid-19 deaths so closely match the vaccination rates" ????

"In the US, 590 million doses have been given so far. During the last
week, shots were administered at an average rate of 89,636 doses a
day."
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/

And, in the worst day of the Covid the death rate in the U.S. reached
"only" 4,351 daily deaths.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 11:29:21 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
> On 6/10/2022 11:15 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 1:09:27 PM UTC-7, deaco...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 2:13:22 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 12:07:10 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>> Well, I just tested positive for covid-19. While I feel like crap it isn't worse than a seasonal flu. And when this takes maybe a week to get over, natural immunity is 27 times that of the vaccines with no possible heart failures or strokes from vaccine.
> >>>>
> >>>> What's more, we have no idea of the danger period of these vaccines since they are showing DNA evidence that they are now in the liver of people who have taken these vaccines.
> >>>>
> >>>> So I won't be riding for over a week from now since I don't want to endanger the people I ride with who are all old.
> >>> Since I have Frank's address I should send him an envelope from the National Organization for Gun Control that I have coughed into. Or sneezed. Franks is so hot to take away other people's guns that he would rip it open and smell the sweet smell of reducing the Constitution to nothing more than something to wipe your shoes on.
> >> Get better and report back
> >> Deacon mark
> >
> > Most of the people that are contracting covid-19 variants have been vaccinated. My wife is showing signs and she was vaccinated.
> >
> > In your medicine cabinet keep something for harsh coughs that present sputum. This also leads to a VERY sore throat so have the proper painkiller for that. I am getting along with Ibuprofen since I can't go up to the store for anything else. But this isn't particularly helpful making the pain about half what it is without. You might have problems sleeping and Night Quill might be a good idea. The copies of that stuff do not work.
> >
> > Just so you know you're not imagining you might want to keep a home test kit around, They are simple and easy to use. There are two types. Type 1 which keeps the test liquid in the container that will be used and Type 2 which keeps the test liquid separate sealed container which is probably a better idea since you eliminate air leaks and degradation of the test liquid. The test strip is supposed to take 15 minutes to show but mine took less than 10 seconds.
> >
> > This variant is accompanied with a painful headache that nothing seems to help and you just have to put up with it.
> >
> > Like I said, if you get the seasonal flu you also have as much disability. Keep a human thermometer around since I guess 3 days without a fever spells the end of it. I had three days of fever and today none.
> >
> From this morning:
>
>
> https://www.conservativereview.com/portugal-as-an-enduring-embarrassment-of-the-failure-of-the-mass-vaccination-campaign-2657482411.html
>
> --
> Andrew Muzi
> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> Open every day since 1 April, 1971

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Portugal 2321 dead per 1 million
Spain 2289
France 2271
Belgium 2722
Netherlands 1298
Germany 1663
Switzerland 1591
Austria 2053
Italy 2777

To be honest Andy, I'd say your link is lying.

If you go over to Google and type in "portugal covid death rate" you should get a line graph at the top of the page. It will show the number of deaths in the past week has been slowly trending upwards. On June 12 it said the 7 day moving average was 41 dead per day. But it sure looks like the number of deaths per day is WAY down from earlier. Covid has trends. Some months its up, some months its down. Could be in Portugal with everyone going to the beach and getting closer, there are more Covid infections and deaths. Right now in the beginning of summer. Portugal is very highly vaccinated. But even with high vaccination status, there are still some who are not vaccinated. And Covid can still kill people.

On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 11:51:12 AM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 9:29:21 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 6/10/2022 11:15 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > > On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 1:09:27 PM UTC-7, deaco...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 2:13:22 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 12:07:10 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >>>> Well, I just tested positive for covid-19. While I feel like crap it isn't worse than a seasonal flu. And when this takes maybe a week to get over, natural immunity is 27 times that of the vaccines with no possible heart failures or strokes from vaccine.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> What's more, we have no idea of the danger period of these vaccines since they are showing DNA evidence that they are now in the liver of people who have taken these vaccines.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> So I won't be riding for over a week from now since I don't want to endanger the people I ride with who are all old.
> > >>> Since I have Frank's address I should send him an envelope from the National Organization for Gun Control that I have coughed into. Or sneezed.. Franks is so hot to take away other people's guns that he would rip it open and smell the sweet smell of reducing the Constitution to nothing more than something to wipe your shoes on.
> > >> Get better and report back
> > >> Deacon mark
> > >
> > > Most of the people that are contracting covid-19 variants have been vaccinated. My wife is showing signs and she was vaccinated.
> > >
> > > In your medicine cabinet keep something for harsh coughs that present sputum. This also leads to a VERY sore throat so have the proper painkiller for that. I am getting along with Ibuprofen since I can't go up to the store for anything else. But this isn't particularly helpful making the pain about half what it is without. You might have problems sleeping and Night Quill might be a good idea. The copies of that stuff do not work.
> > >
> > > Just so you know you're not imagining you might want to keep a home test kit around, They are simple and easy to use. There are two types. Type 1 which keeps the test liquid in the container that will be used and Type 2 which keeps the test liquid separate sealed container which is probably a better idea since you eliminate air leaks and degradation of the test liquid. The test strip is supposed to take 15 minutes to show but mine took less than 10 seconds.
> > >
> > > This variant is accompanied with a painful headache that nothing seems to help and you just have to put up with it.
> > >
> > > Like I said, if you get the seasonal flu you also have as much disability. Keep a human thermometer around since I guess 3 days without a fever spells the end of it. I had three days of fever and today none.
> > >
> > From this morning:
> >
> >
> > https://www.conservativereview.com/portugal-as-an-enduring-embarrassment-of-the-failure-of-the-mass-vaccination-campaign-2657482411.html
> At what point do you suppose that someone will finally ask the question - why do supposed covid-19 deaths so closely match the vaccination rates? Now that we know that Fauci, and the management of the NIH have been given $300,000,000 by the vaccine companies perhaps that is the reason that question hasn't been asked where it might do some good.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/vaccine-tracker
The southeast USA, Republican states, are the least vaccinated.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/coronavirus-data/covid-death-rate?active[]=5&chart_type=map
This shows the number of dead from Covid. The southeast stands out as the highest rate of death. But New Mexico, Arizona, Oklahoma, New York, Pennsylvania, West Virginia are also bad.

There seems to be a strong correlation between vaccination and not dying. Proving Tommy boy is a liar, once again.

On 6/13/2022 7:11 PM, russellseaton1@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 11:29:21 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 6/10/2022 11:15 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 1:09:27 PM UTC-7, deaco...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 2:13:22 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 12:07:10 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>> Well, I just tested positive for covid-19. While I feel like crap it isn't worse than a seasonal flu. And when this takes maybe a week to get over, natural immunity is 27 times that of the vaccines with no possible heart failures or strokes from vaccine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's more, we have no idea of the danger period of these vaccines since they are showing DNA evidence that they are now in the liver of people who have taken these vaccines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I won't be riding for over a week from now since I don't want to endanger the people I ride with who are all old.
>>>>> Since I have Frank's address I should send him an envelope from the National Organization for Gun Control that I have coughed into. Or sneezed. Franks is so hot to take away other people's guns that he would rip it open and smell the sweet smell of reducing the Constitution to nothing more than something to wipe your shoes on.
>>>> Get better and report back
>>>> Deacon mark
>>>
>>> Most of the people that are contracting covid-19 variants have been vaccinated. My wife is showing signs and she was vaccinated.
>>>
>>> In your medicine cabinet keep something for harsh coughs that present sputum. This also leads to a VERY sore throat so have the proper painkiller for that. I am getting along with Ibuprofen since I can't go up to the store for anything else. But this isn't particularly helpful making the pain about half what it is without. You might have problems sleeping and Night Quill might be a good idea. The copies of that stuff do not work.
>>>
>>> Just so you know you're not imagining you might want to keep a home test kit around, They are simple and easy to use. There are two types. Type 1 which keeps the test liquid in the container that will be used and Type 2 which keeps the test liquid separate sealed container which is probably a better idea since you eliminate air leaks and degradation of the test liquid. The test strip is supposed to take 15 minutes to show but mine took less than 10 seconds.
>>>
>>> This variant is accompanied with a painful headache that nothing seems to help and you just have to put up with it.
>>>
>>> Like I said, if you get the seasonal flu you also have as much disability. Keep a human thermometer around since I guess 3 days without a fever spells the end of it. I had three days of fever and today none.
>>>
>> From this morning:
>>
>>
>> https://www.conservativereview.com/portugal-as-an-enduring-embarrassment-of-the-failure-of-the-mass-vaccination-campaign-2657482411.html
>>
>> --
>> Andrew Muzi
>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>
> https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
> Portugal 2321 dead per 1 million
> Spain 2289
> France 2271
> Belgium 2722
> Netherlands 1298
> Germany 1663
> Switzerland 1591
> Austria 2053
> Italy 2777
>
> To be honest Andy, I'd say your link is lying.
>
> If you go over to Google and type in "portugal covid death rate" you should get a line graph at the top of the page. It will show the number of deaths in the past week has been slowly trending upwards. On June 12 it said the 7 day moving average was 41 dead per day. But it sure looks like the number of deaths per day is WAY down from earlier. Covid has trends. Some months its up, some months its down. Could be in Portugal with everyone going to the beach and getting closer, there are more Covid infections and deaths. Right now in the beginning of summer. Portugal is very highly vaccinated. But even with high vaccination status, there are still some who are not vaccinated. And Covid can still kill people.
>

Meh. That landed in my email as Mr Kunich was commenting on
death rates. I have no opinion.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 5:57:51 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> On 6/13/2022 7:11 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 11:29:21 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
> >> On 6/10/2022 11:15 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 1:09:27 PM UTC-7, deaco...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 2:13:22 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 12:07:10 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>>>> Well, I just tested positive for covid-19. While I feel like crap it isn't worse than a seasonal flu. And when this takes maybe a week to get over, natural immunity is 27 times that of the vaccines with no possible heart failures or strokes from vaccine.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What's more, we have no idea of the danger period of these vaccines since they are showing DNA evidence that they are now in the liver of people who have taken these vaccines.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So I won't be riding for over a week from now since I don't want to endanger the people I ride with who are all old.
> >>>>> Since I have Frank's address I should send him an envelope from the National Organization for Gun Control that I have coughed into. Or sneezed.. Franks is so hot to take away other people's guns that he would rip it open and smell the sweet smell of reducing the Constitution to nothing more than something to wipe your shoes on.
> >>>> Get better and report back
> >>>> Deacon mark
> >>>
> >>> Most of the people that are contracting covid-19 variants have been vaccinated. My wife is showing signs and she was vaccinated.
> >>>
> >>> In your medicine cabinet keep something for harsh coughs that present sputum. This also leads to a VERY sore throat so have the proper painkiller for that. I am getting along with Ibuprofen since I can't go up to the store for anything else. But this isn't particularly helpful making the pain about half what it is without. You might have problems sleeping and Night Quill might be a good idea. The copies of that stuff do not work.
> >>>
> >>> Just so you know you're not imagining you might want to keep a home test kit around, They are simple and easy to use. There are two types. Type 1 which keeps the test liquid in the container that will be used and Type 2 which keeps the test liquid separate sealed container which is probably a better idea since you eliminate air leaks and degradation of the test liquid. The test strip is supposed to take 15 minutes to show but mine took less than 10 seconds.
> >>>
> >>> This variant is accompanied with a painful headache that nothing seems to help and you just have to put up with it.
> >>>
> >>> Like I said, if you get the seasonal flu you also have as much disability. Keep a human thermometer around since I guess 3 days without a fever spells the end of it. I had three days of fever and today none.
> >>>
> >> From this morning:
> >>
> >>
> >> https://www.conservativereview.com/portugal-as-an-enduring-embarrassment-of-the-failure-of-the-mass-vaccination-campaign-2657482411.html
> >>
> >> --
> >> Andrew Muzi
> >> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> >> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >
> > https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
> > Portugal 2321 dead per 1 million
> > Spain 2289
> > France 2271
> > Belgium 2722
> > Netherlands 1298
> > Germany 1663
> > Switzerland 1591
> > Austria 2053
> > Italy 2777
> >
> > To be honest Andy, I'd say your link is lying.
> >
> > If you go over to Google and type in "portugal covid death rate" you should get a line graph at the top of the page. It will show the number of deaths in the past week has been slowly trending upwards. On June 12 it said the 7 day moving average was 41 dead per day. But it sure looks like the number of deaths per day is WAY down from earlier. Covid has trends. Some months its up, some months its down. Could be in Portugal with everyone going to the beach and getting closer, there are more Covid infections and deaths.. Right now in the beginning of summer. Portugal is very highly vaccinated. But even with high vaccination status, there are still some who are not vaccinated. And Covid can still kill people.
> >
> Meh. That landed in my email as Mr Kunich was commenting on
> death rates. I have no opinion.

Well everyone in Portugal is vaccinated and they have the highest death rate in Europe.

But apparently there is a genetic factor going on since people who moved into Europe fairly early mated with Neanderthal which is after all the same species as homo sapiens. They just looked like Frank and Russell. But that additional genetic material cancels the immune reaction of the human body against covid-19. Western Europe has a lot of this in their genetic makeup whereas Africa has none and hence almost no covid-19 deaths and Asia and particularly Japan has nearly none and Japan also has almost no deaths from covid-19.

On 6/13/2022 9:34 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 5:57:51 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>> On 6/13/2022 7:11 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 11:29:21 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> On 6/10/2022 11:15 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 1:09:27 PM UTC-7, deaco...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 2:13:22 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 12:07:10 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
>>>>>>>> Well, I just tested positive for covid-19. While I feel like crap it isn't worse than a seasonal flu. And when this takes maybe a week to get over, natural immunity is 27 times that of the vaccines with no possible heart failures or strokes from vaccine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What's more, we have no idea of the danger period of these vaccines since they are showing DNA evidence that they are now in the liver of people who have taken these vaccines.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So I won't be riding for over a week from now since I don't want to endanger the people I ride with who are all old.
>>>>>>> Since I have Frank's address I should send him an envelope from the National Organization for Gun Control that I have coughed into. Or sneezed. Franks is so hot to take away other people's guns that he would rip it open and smell the sweet smell of reducing the Constitution to nothing more than something to wipe your shoes on.
>>>>>> Get better and report back
>>>>>> Deacon mark
>>>>>
>>>>> Most of the people that are contracting covid-19 variants have been vaccinated. My wife is showing signs and she was vaccinated.
>>>>>
>>>>> In your medicine cabinet keep something for harsh coughs that present sputum. This also leads to a VERY sore throat so have the proper painkiller for that. I am getting along with Ibuprofen since I can't go up to the store for anything else. But this isn't particularly helpful making the pain about half what it is without. You might have problems sleeping and Night Quill might be a good idea. The copies of that stuff do not work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just so you know you're not imagining you might want to keep a home test kit around, They are simple and easy to use. There are two types. Type 1 which keeps the test liquid in the container that will be used and Type 2 which keeps the test liquid separate sealed container which is probably a better idea since you eliminate air leaks and degradation of the test liquid. The test strip is supposed to take 15 minutes to show but mine took less than 10 seconds.
>>>>>
>>>>> This variant is accompanied with a painful headache that nothing seems to help and you just have to put up with it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Like I said, if you get the seasonal flu you also have as much disability. Keep a human thermometer around since I guess 3 days without a fever spells the end of it. I had three days of fever and today none.
>>>>>
>>>> From this morning:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.conservativereview.com/portugal-as-an-enduring-embarrassment-of-the-failure-of-the-mass-vaccination-campaign-2657482411.html
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Andrew Muzi
>>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
>>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
>>>
>>> https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
>>> Portugal 2321 dead per 1 million
>>> Spain 2289
>>> France 2271
>>> Belgium 2722
>>> Netherlands 1298
>>> Germany 1663
>>> Switzerland 1591
>>> Austria 2053
>>> Italy 2777
>>>
>>> To be honest Andy, I'd say your link is lying.
>>>
>>> If you go over to Google and type in "portugal covid death rate" you should get a line graph at the top of the page. It will show the number of deaths in the past week has been slowly trending upwards. On June 12 it said the 7 day moving average was 41 dead per day. But it sure looks like the number of deaths per day is WAY down from earlier. Covid has trends. Some months its up, some months its down. Could be in Portugal with everyone going to the beach and getting closer, there are more Covid infections and deaths. Right now in the beginning of summer. Portugal is very highly vaccinated. But even with high vaccination status, there are still some who are not vaccinated. And Covid can still kill people.
>>>
>> Meh. That landed in my email as Mr Kunich was commenting on
>> death rates. I have no opinion.
>
> Well everyone in Portugal is vaccinated and they have the highest death rate in Europe.

I know this isn't surprising, but Tom seems to be wrong yet again. This
site
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
list Portugal at 7.18 deaths per million for the last seven days.
That's exceeded by Sweden, Slovenia, Ireland, France, Hungary and more.

You can find similar information at
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

And FWIW, both of those sites show the USA as being much worse than
Portugal.

Tom, you really need new sources of information. Your imagination, your
"memory" and your right-wing news outlets are failing you.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 10:19:03 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 10:07:09 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> > Tom Kunich wrote:
> >
> > > medications
> > > that can appear to work when it is simply the victim's own immune
> > > system operating.
> >
> > > What does the computer have to do with anything?
> > Something that presents you content that annoys you has a lot to do with
> > your immune system. It's you who claimed to feel like crap, and I only
> > want you to get better. Therefore, I won't respond until you are back
> > on your bike.
> Well I appreciate your thoughtfulness but irritation doesn't have any effect on your immune system though constant fear most certainly does. So while my postings might irritate you and some others, the demonstration that this is nothing to fear helps others.

I'm told that Frank is continuing to promote that lie that over a million people have died from covid-19. After I've shown that 1. The CDC statistics show that only about 8,000 people have died from it. My question would be why he feels the need to call the CDC liars because they completely disagree with his false claims? Have extra people died? Certainly, but dying from a heart attack at 88 years old is normal and if they use PCR and then claim that they are SARS-Cov-2 Positive does not mean that they were either sick with covid-19 or that they died from it.

Imagine the unmitigated gall that Frank with absolutely no experience nor training is going to tell us that he is an expert in these matters. So much the expert that he is ready, willing and able to call the CDC statistics incorrect. IF covid-19 were indeed killing people this would show as strong increases in deaths since the Delta variant peak in late March and early April in 2020, Instead, the levels of covid deaths is BELOW deaths from all respiratory illnesses for the 5 year average of 2015-2019. This indicates that older people dying are not doing so from this respiratory illness but from normal age related conditions.

Do you suppose that they are testing drug overdoes for covid-19 and proclaiming them covid-19 deaths? Probably not because they stopped the $50,000 per head bounty of reporting covid-19 deaths: https://fee.org/articles/physicians-say-hospitals-are-pressuring-er-docs-to-list-covid-19-on-death-certificates-here-s-why/

So Frank is willing to shout down the CDC in order to pretend that I don't know what I'm talking about. I see that as a fool and his money soon being parted. His retirement isn't going to increase to keep up with the Biden-iffication of the economy and he is in deep shit. So he is going to fix it all by denial.

On 6/14/2022 4:08 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:

> I'm told ...

Hah! Nobody believes that, Tom. You're reading posts here. Give it up.

> ... that Frank is continuing to promote that lie that over a million
people have died from covid-19. ...
> Imagine the unmitigated gall that Frank with absolutely no experience
nor training is going to tell us that he is an expert in these matters.

Ah, the irony of such a statement coming from a high school dropout! :-)

But I've never claimed to be an expert. Once again, Tom's arguing
against what he _wishes_ I've said. He lacks the intellect to counter
what I've actually said.

----

This article is very relevant to Tom's case:
https://www.businessinsider.com/psychologist-explains-why-people-believe-conspiracy-theories-during-uncertain-times-2020-4

"People who believe in conspiracy theories can feel "special," in a
positive sense, because they may feel that they are more informed than
others about important social and political events. […]"

"Our findings can also be connected to recent research demonstrating
that individual narcissism, or a grandiose idea of the self, is
positively related to belief in conspiracy theories."

"It has been noted that individuals who endorse conspiracy theories are
likely to be higher in powerlessness, social isolation, and 'anomia,'
which is broadly defined as a subjective disengagement from social norms."

"People who feel powerless may also endorse conspiracy theories as they
also help the individual avoid blame for their predicament."

And, something I sometimes try to remember:
"You can't really argue with people who believe in conspiracy theories,
because their beliefs aren't rational."

I probably respond to Tom too often, although I do resist quite a lot.
Countering all his mistakes would be a full time job.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 11:32:45 AM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 6/13/2022 9:34 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 5:57:51 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> >> On 6/13/2022 7:11 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>> On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 11:29:21 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
> >>>> On 6/10/2022 11:15 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 1:09:27 PM UTC-7, deaco...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 2:13:22 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 12:07:10 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Well, I just tested positive for covid-19. While I feel like crap it isn't worse than a seasonal flu. And when this takes maybe a week to get over, natural immunity is 27 times that of the vaccines with no possible heart failures or strokes from vaccine.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> What's more, we have no idea of the danger period of these vaccines since they are showing DNA evidence that they are now in the liver of people who have taken these vaccines.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So I won't be riding for over a week from now since I don't want to endanger the people I ride with who are all old.
> >>>>>>> Since I have Frank's address I should send him an envelope from the National Organization for Gun Control that I have coughed into. Or sneezed. Franks is so hot to take away other people's guns that he would rip it open and smell the sweet smell of reducing the Constitution to nothing more than something to wipe your shoes on.
> >>>>>> Get better and report back
> >>>>>> Deacon mark
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Most of the people that are contracting covid-19 variants have been vaccinated. My wife is showing signs and she was vaccinated.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In your medicine cabinet keep something for harsh coughs that present sputum. This also leads to a VERY sore throat so have the proper painkiller for that. I am getting along with Ibuprofen since I can't go up to the store for anything else. But this isn't particularly helpful making the pain about half what it is without. You might have problems sleeping and Night Quill might be a good idea. The copies of that stuff do not work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Just so you know you're not imagining you might want to keep a home test kit around, They are simple and easy to use. There are two types. Type 1 which keeps the test liquid in the container that will be used and Type 2 which keeps the test liquid separate sealed container which is probably a better idea since you eliminate air leaks and degradation of the test liquid. The test strip is supposed to take 15 minutes to show but mine took less than 10 seconds.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This variant is accompanied with a painful headache that nothing seems to help and you just have to put up with it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Like I said, if you get the seasonal flu you also have as much disability. Keep a human thermometer around since I guess 3 days without a fever spells the end of it. I had three days of fever and today none.
> >>>>>
> >>>> From this morning:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> https://www.conservativereview.com/portugal-as-an-enduring-embarrassment-of-the-failure-of-the-mass-vaccination-campaign-2657482411.html
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Andrew Muzi
> >>>> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> >>>> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> >>>
> >>> https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
> >>> Portugal 2321 dead per 1 million
> >>> Spain 2289
> >>> France 2271
> >>> Belgium 2722
> >>> Netherlands 1298
> >>> Germany 1663
> >>> Switzerland 1591
> >>> Austria 2053
> >>> Italy 2777
> >>>
> >>> To be honest Andy, I'd say your link is lying.
> >>>
> >>> If you go over to Google and type in "portugal covid death rate" you should get a line graph at the top of the page. It will show the number of deaths in the past week has been slowly trending upwards. On June 12 it said the 7 day moving average was 41 dead per day. But it sure looks like the number of deaths per day is WAY down from earlier. Covid has trends. Some months its up, some months its down. Could be in Portugal with everyone going to the beach and getting closer, there are more Covid infections and deaths. Right now in the beginning of summer. Portugal is very highly vaccinated. But even with high vaccination status, there are still some who are not vaccinated. And Covid can still kill people.
> >>>
> >> Meh. That landed in my email as Mr Kunich was commenting on
> >> death rates. I have no opinion.
> >
> > Well everyone in Portugal is vaccinated and they have the highest death rate in Europe.
> I know this isn't surprising, but Tom seems to be wrong yet again. This
> site
> https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
> list Portugal at 7.18 deaths per million for the last seven days.
> That's exceeded by Sweden, Slovenia, Ireland, France, Hungary and more.
>
> You can find similar information at
> https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
>
> And FWIW, both of those sites show the USA as being much worse than
> Portugal.
>
> Tom, you really need new sources of information. Your imagination, your
> "memory" and your right-wing news outlets are failing you.
>
>
> --
> - Frank Krygowski

Thanks Frank. When I saw Tommy boy's lies, I was getting ready to reply. Then I read your reply saying he is lying about Portugal having the highest Covid death rate in Europe. Lies lies lies. From our Tommy. Typical.

On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 8:34:48 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 5:57:51 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> > On 6/13/2022 7:11 PM, russell...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 11:29:21 AM UTC-5, AMuzi wrote:
> > >> On 6/10/2022 11:15 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 1:09:27 PM UTC-7, deaco...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 2:13:22 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>>>> On Thursday, June 9, 2022 at 12:07:10 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >>>>>> Well, I just tested positive for covid-19. While I feel like crap it isn't worse than a seasonal flu. And when this takes maybe a week to get over, natural immunity is 27 times that of the vaccines with no possible heart failures or strokes from vaccine.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> What's more, we have no idea of the danger period of these vaccines since they are showing DNA evidence that they are now in the liver of people who have taken these vaccines.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> So I won't be riding for over a week from now since I don't want to endanger the people I ride with who are all old.
> > >>>>> Since I have Frank's address I should send him an envelope from the National Organization for Gun Control that I have coughed into. Or sneezed. Franks is so hot to take away other people's guns that he would rip it open and smell the sweet smell of reducing the Constitution to nothing more than something to wipe your shoes on.
> > >>>> Get better and report back
> > >>>> Deacon mark
> > >>>
> > >>> Most of the people that are contracting covid-19 variants have been vaccinated. My wife is showing signs and she was vaccinated.
> > >>>
> > >>> In your medicine cabinet keep something for harsh coughs that present sputum. This also leads to a VERY sore throat so have the proper painkiller for that. I am getting along with Ibuprofen since I can't go up to the store for anything else. But this isn't particularly helpful making the pain about half what it is without. You might have problems sleeping and Night Quill might be a good idea. The copies of that stuff do not work.
> > >>>
> > >>> Just so you know you're not imagining you might want to keep a home test kit around, They are simple and easy to use. There are two types. Type 1 which keeps the test liquid in the container that will be used and Type 2 which keeps the test liquid separate sealed container which is probably a better idea since you eliminate air leaks and degradation of the test liquid. The test strip is supposed to take 15 minutes to show but mine took less than 10 seconds.
> > >>>
> > >>> This variant is accompanied with a painful headache that nothing seems to help and you just have to put up with it.
> > >>>
> > >>> Like I said, if you get the seasonal flu you also have as much disability. Keep a human thermometer around since I guess 3 days without a fever spells the end of it. I had three days of fever and today none.
> > >>>
> > >> From this morning:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> https://www.conservativereview.com/portugal-as-an-enduring-embarrassment-of-the-failure-of-the-mass-vaccination-campaign-2657482411.html
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Andrew Muzi
> > >> <www.yellowjersey.org/>
> > >> Open every day since 1 April, 1971
> > >
> > > https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
> > > Portugal 2321 dead per 1 million
> > > Spain 2289
> > > France 2271
> > > Belgium 2722
> > > Netherlands 1298
> > > Germany 1663
> > > Switzerland 1591
> > > Austria 2053
> > > Italy 2777
> > >
> > > To be honest Andy, I'd say your link is lying.
> > >
> > > If you go over to Google and type in "portugal covid death rate" you should get a line graph at the top of the page. It will show the number of deaths in the past week has been slowly trending upwards. On June 12 it said the 7 day moving average was 41 dead per day. But it sure looks like the number of deaths per day is WAY down from earlier. Covid has trends. Some months its up, some months its down. Could be in Portugal with everyone going to the beach and getting closer, there are more Covid infections and deaths. Right now in the beginning of summer. Portugal is very highly vaccinated. But even with high vaccination status, there are still some who are not vaccinated. And Covid can still kill people.
> > >
> > Meh. That landed in my email as Mr Kunich was commenting on
> > death rates. I have no opinion.
> Well everyone in Portugal is vaccinated and they have the highest death rate in Europe.
>
> But apparently there is a genetic factor going on since people who moved into Europe fairly early mated with Neanderthal which is after all the same species as homo sapiens. They just looked like Frank and Russell. But that additional genetic material cancels the immune reaction of the human body against covid-19. Western Europe has a lot of this in their genetic makeup whereas Africa has none and hence almost no covid-19 deaths and Asia and particularly Japan has nearly none and Japan also has almost no deaths from covid-19.

https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?facet=none&Metric=Confirmed+deaths&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Color+by+test+positivity=false&country=USA~Africa~JPN

The above link is for Covid deaths in Africa, Japan, and USA. Africa and Japan have less than the USA. But then everyone in the world has less Covid deaths than the USA. Africa and Japan have Covid deaths too. They are not immune. If you remember, you probably don't, but the summer Olympics in Japan were moved from 2020 to 2021. And NO spectators were allowed. And the winter Olympics in China in 2022 were also no spectators. Or at least no foreign spectators. So apparently Japan and Asia were worried about Covid too.

On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 3:08:28 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 10:19:03 AM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 10:07:09 AM UTC-7, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> > > Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >
> > > > medications
> > > > that can appear to work when it is simply the victim's own immune
> > > > system operating.
> > >
> > > > What does the computer have to do with anything?
> > > Something that presents you content that annoys you has a lot to do with
> > > your immune system. It's you who claimed to feel like crap, and I only
> > > want you to get better. Therefore, I won't respond until you are back
> > > on your bike.
> > Well I appreciate your thoughtfulness but irritation doesn't have any effect on your immune system though constant fear most certainly does. So while my postings might irritate you and some others, the demonstration that this is nothing to fear helps others.
> I'm told that Frank is continuing to promote that lie that over a million people have died from covid-19. After I've shown that 1. The CDC statistics show that only about 8,000 people have died from it. My question would be why he feels the need to call the CDC liars because they completely disagree with his false claims? Have extra people died? Certainly, but dying from a heart attack at 88 years old is normal and if they use PCR and then claim that they are SARS-Cov-2 Positive does not mean that they were either sick with covid-19 or that they died from it.
>
> Imagine the unmitigated gall that Frank with absolutely no experience nor training is going to tell us that he is an expert in these matters. So much the expert that he is ready, willing and able to call the CDC statistics incorrect. IF covid-19 were indeed killing people this would show as strong increases in deaths since the Delta variant peak in late March and early April in 2020, Instead, the levels of covid deaths is BELOW deaths from all respiratory illnesses for the 5 year average of 2015-2019. This indicates that older people dying are not doing so from this respiratory illness but from normal age related conditions.
>
> Do you suppose that they are testing drug overdoes for covid-19 and proclaiming them covid-19 deaths? Probably not because they stopped the $50,000 per head bounty of reporting covid-19 deaths: https://fee.org/articles/physicians-say-hospitals-are-pressuring-er-docs-to-list-covid-19-on-death-certificates-here-s-why/
>
> So Frank is willing to shout down the CDC in order to pretend that I don't know what I'm talking about. I see that as a fool and his money soon being parted. His retirement isn't going to increase to keep up with the Biden-iffication of the economy and he is in deep shit. So he is going to fix it all by denial.

CDC says 1,006,890 DEAD from COVID-19 as of now. That is what the CDC is saying.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home

On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 4:18:27 PM UTC-5, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 6/14/2022 4:08 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> > I'm told ...
>
> Hah! Nobody believes that, Tom. You're reading posts here. Give it up.
>
> > ... that Frank is continuing to promote that lie that over a million
> people have died from covid-19. ...
> > Imagine the unmitigated gall that Frank with absolutely no experience
> nor training is going to tell us that he is an expert in these matters.
> Ah, the irony of such a statement coming from a high school dropout! :-)
>
> But I've never claimed to be an expert. Once again, Tom's arguing
> against what he _wishes_ I've said. He lacks the intellect to counter
> what I've actually said.
>
> ----
>
> This article is very relevant to Tom's case:
> https://www.businessinsider.com/psychologist-explains-why-people-believe-conspiracy-theories-during-uncertain-times-2020-4
>
> "People who believe in conspiracy theories can feel "special," in a
> positive sense, because they may feel that they are more informed than
> others about important social and political events. […]"
>
> "Our findings can also be connected to recent research demonstrating
> that individual narcissism, or a grandiose idea of the self, is
> positively related to belief in conspiracy theories."
>
> "It has been noted that individuals who endorse conspiracy theories are
> likely to be higher in powerlessness, social isolation, and 'anomia,'
> which is broadly defined as a subjective disengagement from social norms."
>
> "People who feel powerless may also endorse conspiracy theories as they
> also help the individual avoid blame for their predicament."
>
> And, something I sometimes try to remember:
> "You can't really argue with people who believe in conspiracy theories,
> because their beliefs aren't rational."
>
>
> I probably respond to Tom too often, although I do resist quite a lot.
> Countering all his mistakes would be a full time job.
>
> --
> - Frank Krygowski

WOW!!!!!!!! Its as if the person who wrote that article studied Tommy for a month, or year, or decade.