On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 4:22:30 PM UTC-7, deaco...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 28, 2022 at 5:52:15 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
> > On Tue, 28 Jun 2022 10:31:23 -0700 (PDT), Lou Holtman
> > <lou.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Monday, June 27, 2022 at 2:41:15 AM UTC+2, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> I have good friends (including some avid bicyclists) who are strongly in
> > >> favor of sex education,
> > >
> > >‘In favor of sex education’ ?? WTF can you be against it? I was wondering what sex education is these days and will it prevent teenagers from getting into an ‘abortion situation’? I doubt that. Old mens talk and/or wishfull thinking.
> > >
> > >Lou
> > But don't mothers tell their girl children what's going on? they do
> > here in this little 3rd world sntry.
> > --
> > Cheers,
> >
> > John B.
>
> As for the morally ethical and loving people who don't believe in God. Well in my thinking they actually do believe in God because God is love. They simply have not made the connection and as far as their eternal salvation. I will leave that up to God I am not the judge but me thinks this nonbeliever will not be delivered to damnation. If we live life based on love of neighbor as we love ourselves, that is most of the battle won. Putting God in a box is not something smart but many preachers try to do this. The person who has no respect for others and is selfish, along with using others for personal gain, that is when to be concerned.
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> Finally, just to clarify to Tom. The Pope did not bar Nancy Pelosi from communion. Her Bishop in the Dioceses, Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Franciscoive said she was not to receive communion. I don't disagree given her public push about abortion. It has nothing to do with what she personally may believe, which I hope is abortion is killing. However, her cavalier approach to make sure abortion is always around and available given the public nature of her job, well that is a prime problem. She should resign or shut up as a Catholic.
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> Just so we know I am a self-trained backyard bike mechanic but have the equivalent of MS in theology. Which only makes it worse when I face God in the end. I am supposed to know and practice it.

The position of the Catholic Church is that abortion is forbidden. With both old and new testament commentary. It is not a point of disagreement that Nancy Pelosi can simply disagree on this point. That alone with or without the sacrament damns her forever. She CANNOT support abortion on demand and be truly repentant.

On 6/29/2022 11:09 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
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> The position of the Catholic Church is that abortion is forbidden. With both old and new testament commentary. It is not a point of disagreement that Nancy Pelosi can simply disagree on this point. That alone with or without the sacrament damns her forever. She CANNOT support abortion on demand and be truly repentant.

And yet...

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/251669/nancy-pelosi-reportedly-receives-communion-at-papal-mass

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- Frank Krygowski

On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 12:11:16 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 6/29/2022 11:09 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> >
> > The position of the Catholic Church is that abortion is forbidden. With both old and new testament commentary. It is not a point of disagreement that Nancy Pelosi can simply disagree on this point. That alone with or without the sacrament damns her forever. She CANNOT support abortion on demand and be truly repentant.

Like Barr with capital punishment. Same thing. The pope has spoken. If you're a Catholic you don't get to disagree.

Of course, Barr killed 13 actual persons, while Pelosi supports terminating an egg, which may or may not be a person depending on your religion.

On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 9:25:12 AM UTC-7, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 29, 2022 at 12:11:16 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > On 6/29/2022 11:09 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> > >
> > > The position of the Catholic Church is that abortion is forbidden. With both old and new testament commentary. It is not a point of disagreement that Nancy Pelosi can simply disagree on this point. That alone with or without the sacrament damns her forever. She CANNOT support abortion on demand and be truly repentant.
> Like Barr with capital punishment. Same thing. The pope has spoken. If you're a Catholic you don't get to disagree.
>
> Of course, Barr killed 13 actual persons, while Pelosi supports terminating an egg, which may or may not be a person depending on your religion.
Tim, how are you?