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Em quinta-feira, 1 de abril de 2021 às 18:22:07 UTC-3 escreveu:
> Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
>
> Mitchell Raemsch

You were kidding at April first.

Do you like the axiom of choice yes or not?

Does the number 6.999... = 7.000... exist?
How many zeroes may we put after the point?

<< The Cartesianory of aleph_k copies of {0, 1} exist. For every k. Including k = 10^69."

Does a polinomial in aleph_k variables exist?

Does any number exist?

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> > Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch

Some years ago, there was a John Gabriel. Is he died? How many names/faces would he have?

He's a polytope!

v - e + f = 1.999...

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 by: Vinicius Claudino Fe - Sat, 15 May 2021 21:47 UTC

Em sábado, 15 de maio de 2021 às 16:55:55 UTC-3, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz escreveu:
> Em quinta-feira, 1 de abril de 2021 às 18:22:07 UTC-3 escreveu:
> > Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> You were kidding at April first.
>
> Do you like the axiom of choice yes or not?
>
> Does the number 6.999... = 7.000... exist?
> How many zeroes may we put after the point?
>
> << The Cartesianory of aleph_k copies of {0, 1} exist. For every k. Including k = 10^69."
>
> Does a polinomial in aleph_k variables exist?
>
> Does any number exist?

If the universe were Euclidean,
then 2^(1/2) would exist and 2^(1/3) would not.

As nobody knows what is the geometry of the universe, like the curvature G,
then nobody knows what does exist? and what does not exist? at all.

Everything is approximately equal to anything.

Vinicius
2021/May/15th

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Sun, 16 May 2021 02:30 UTC

On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:47:20 PM UTC-7, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz wrote:
> Em sábado, 15 de maio de 2021 às 16:55:55 UTC-3, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz escreveu:
> > Em quinta-feira, 1 de abril de 2021 às 18:22:07 UTC-3 escreveu:
> > > Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
> > >
> > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > You were kidding at April first.
> >
> > Do you like the axiom of choice yes or not?
> >
> > Does the number 6.999... = 7.000... exist?
> > How many zeroes may we put after the point?
> >
> > << The Cartesianory of aleph_k copies of {0, 1} exist. For every k. Including k = 10^69."
> >
> > Does a polinomial in aleph_k variables exist?
> >
> > Does any number exist?
> If the universe were Euclidean,
> then 2^(1/2) would exist and 2^(1/3) would not.
>
> As nobody knows what is the geometry of the universe, like the curvature G,
> then nobody knows what does exist? and what does not exist? at all.
>
> Everything is approximately equal to anything.
>
> Vinicius
> 2021/May/15th

Space is flat but gravity is round...

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: zelos...@gmail.com - Mon, 17 May 2021 05:16 UTC

söndag 16 maj 2021 kl. 04:30:15 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:47:20 PM UTC-7, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz wrote:
> > Em sábado, 15 de maio de 2021 às 16:55:55 UTC-3, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz escreveu:
> > > Em quinta-feira, 1 de abril de 2021 às 18:22:07 UTC-3 escreveu:
> > > > Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
> > > >
> > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > You were kidding at April first.
> > >
> > > Do you like the axiom of choice yes or not?
> > >
> > > Does the number 6.999... = 7.000... exist?
> > > How many zeroes may we put after the point?
> > >
> > > << The Cartesianory of aleph_k copies of {0, 1} exist. For every k. Including k = 10^69."
> > >
> > > Does a polinomial in aleph_k variables exist?
> > >
> > > Does any number exist?
> > If the universe were Euclidean,
> > then 2^(1/2) would exist and 2^(1/3) would not.
> >
> > As nobody knows what is the geometry of the universe, like the curvature G,
> > then nobody knows what does exist? and what does not exist? at all.
> >
> > Everything is approximately equal to anything.
> >
> > Vinicius
> > 2021/May/15th
> Space is flat but gravity is round...
>
> Mitchell Raemsch
but 1=0.999.... is always true in real numbers :)

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 by: Vinicius Claudino Fe - Mon, 17 May 2021 23:26 UTC

Em segunda-feira, 17 de maio de 2021 às 02:16:30 UTC-3, zelos escreveu:
> söndag 16 maj 2021 kl. 04:30:15 UTC+2 skrev m com:
> > On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:47:20 PM UTC-7, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz wrote:
> > > Em sábado, 15 de maio de 2021 às 16:55:55 UTC-3, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz escreveu:
> > > > Em quinta-feira, 1 de abril de 2021 às 18:22:07 UTC-3 escreveu:
> > > > > Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > You were kidding at April first.
> > > >
> > > > Do you like the axiom of choice yes or not?
> > > >
> > > > Does the number 6.999... = 7.000... exist?
> > > > How many zeroes may we put after the point?
> > > >
> > > > << The Cartesianory of aleph_k copies of {0, 1} exist. For every k. Including k = 10^69."
> > > >
> > > > Does a polinomial in aleph_k variables exist?
> > > >
> > > > Does any number exist?
> > > If the universe were Euclidean,
> > > then 2^(1/2) would exist and 2^(1/3) would not.
> > >
> > > As nobody knows what is the geometry of the universe, like the curvature G,
> > > then nobody knows what does exist? and what does not exist? at all.
> > >
> > > Everything is approximately equal to anything.
> > >
> > > Vinicius
> > > 2021/May/15th
> > Space is flat but gravity is round...
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> but 1=0.999.... is always true in real numbers :)

I still don't know what's going on here.
How space is flat? Space of parametrizations? It doesn't exist.
They say that the light deflects and has mass m = 0. So it says what is a straight line.
If the metric where L^p then Pythagora would say to Anaxagora that: x^p + y^p = R^p

I want to put some P = power sets before N = naturals.
0 ~ N
1 ~ PN = R
1.9999... = 2 ~ PPN = PR
May I construct P^(10^69)N ?

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Tue, 18 May 2021 02:03 UTC

On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 10:16:30 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> söndag 16 maj 2021 kl. 04:30:15 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:47:20 PM UTC-7, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz wrote:
> > > Em sábado, 15 de maio de 2021 às 16:55:55 UTC-3, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz escreveu:
> > > > Em quinta-feira, 1 de abril de 2021 às 18:22:07 UTC-3 escreveu:
> > > > > Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > You were kidding at April first.
> > > >
> > > > Do you like the axiom of choice yes or not?
> > > >
> > > > Does the number 6.999... = 7.000... exist?
> > > > How many zeroes may we put after the point?
> > > >
> > > > << The Cartesianory of aleph_k copies of {0, 1} exist. For every k. Including k = 10^69."
> > > >
> > > > Does a polinomial in aleph_k variables exist?
> > > >
> > > > Does any number exist?
> > > If the universe were Euclidean,
> > > then 2^(1/2) would exist and 2^(1/3) would not.
> > >
> > > As nobody knows what is the geometry of the universe, like the curvature G,
> > > then nobody knows what does exist? and what does not exist? at all.
> > >
> > > Everything is approximately equal to anything.
> > >
> > > Vinicius
> > > 2021/May/15th
> > Space is flat but gravity is round...
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> but 1=0.999.... is always true in real numbers :)

They are different by the unlimited small fundamental.
They are not the same quantity. They are another kind
of equal.

Mitchell Raemsch

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On 5/17/2021 10:03 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 10:16:30 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:

>> but 1=0.999.... is always true in real numbers :)
>
> They are different by the unlimited small fundamental.
> They are not the same quantity.

Roy Masters, what is the average of 1 and 0.999... ?

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On 5/18/2021 1:29 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 7:08:40 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> On 5/17/2021 10:03 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 10:16:30 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>> but 1=0.999.... is always true in real numbers :)
>>>
>>> They are different by the unlimited small fundamental.
>>> They are not the same quantity.
>
> .9 repeating and 1 are not absolutely equal
> there equality is based on an unlimited small difference...
> The infinitesimal is the next thing to zero not quantity...
>

So, what is the average of 1 and 0.999..., Roy?

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> So, what is the average of 1 and 0.999..., Roy?

Is dx = 0 or dx > 0? Is this a kind of game?
dx = 1/infty. What is infty?

60^2 + 11^2 = 61^2
5100^2 + 101^2 = 5101^2
501000^2 + 1001^2 = 501001^2
50010000^2 + 10001^2 = 50010001^2
5000100000^2 + 100001^2 = 5000100001^2
500001000000^2 + 1000001^2 = 500001000001^2
50000010000000^2 + 10000001^2 = 50000010000001^2
5000000100000000^2 + 100000001^2 = 5000000100000001^2
500000001000000000^2 + 1000000001^2 = 500000001000000001^2
50000000010000000000^2 + 10000000001^2 = 50000000010000000001^2
5000000000100000000000^2 + 100000000001^2 = 5000000000100000000001^2
500000000001000000000000^2 + 1000000000001^2 = 500000000001000000000001^2
50000000000010000000000000^2 + 10000000000001^2 = 50000000000010000000000001^2
5000000000000100000000000000^2 + 100000000000001^2 = 5000000000000100000000000001^2
500000000000001000000000000000^2 + 1000000000000001^2 = 500000000000001000000000000001^2
50000000000000010000000000000000^2 + 10000000000000001^2 = 50000000000000010000000000000001^2
5000000000000000100000000000000000^2 + 100000000000000001^2 = 5000000000000000100000000000000001^2
500000000000000001000000000000000000^2 + 1000000000000000001^2 = 500000000000000001000000000000000001^2
50000000000000000010000000000000000000^2 + 10000000000000000001^2 = 50000000000000000010000000000000000001^2
5000000000000000000100000000000000000000^2 + 100000000000000000001^2 = 5000000000000000000100000000000000000001^2
500000000000000000001000000000000000000000^2 + 1000000000000000000001^2 = 500000000000000000001000000000000000000001^2
50000000000000000000010000000000000000000000^2 + 10000000000000000000001^2 = 50000000000000000000010000000000000000000001^2
5000000000000000000000100000000000000000000000^2 + 100000000000000000000001^2 = 5000000000000000000000100000000000000000000001^2
500000000000000000000001000000000000000000000000^2 + 1000000000000000000000001^2 = 500000000000000000000001000000000000000000000001^2
50000000000000000000000010000000000000000000000000^2 + 10000000000000000000000001^2 = 50000000000000000000000010000000000000000000000001^2
5000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000000000^2 + 100000000000000000000000001^2 = 5000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000000001^2
500000000000000000000000001000000000000000000000000000^2 + 1000000000000000000000000001^2 = 500000000000000000000000001000000000000000000000000001^2
50000000000000000000000000010000000000000000000000000000^2 + 10000000000000000000000000001^2 = 50000000000000000000000000010000000000000000000000000001^2
5000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000000000000^2 + 100000000000000000000000000001^2 = 5000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000000000001^2
500000000000000000000000000001000000000000000000000000000000^2 + 1000000000000000000000000000001^2 = 500000000000000000000000000001000000000000000000000000000001^2
50000000000000000000000000000010000000000000000000000000000000^2 + 10000000000000000000000000000001^2 = 50000000000000000000000000000010000000000000000000000000000001^2
5000000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000000000000000^2 + 100000000000000000000000000000001^2 = 5000000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000000000000001^2
500000000000000000000000000000001000000000000000000000000000000000^2 + 1000000000000000000000000000000001^2 = 500000000000000000000000000000001000000000000000000000000000000001^2
50000000000000000000000000000000010000000000000000000000000000000000^2 + 10000000000000000000000000000000001^2 = 50000000000000000000000000000000010000000000000000000000000000000001^2
5000000000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000000000000000000^2 + 100000000000000000000000000000000001^2 = 5000000000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000000000000000001^2

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 by: zelos...@gmail.com - Wed, 19 May 2021 05:18 UTC

tisdag 18 maj 2021 kl. 04:03:20 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 10:16:30 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > söndag 16 maj 2021 kl. 04:30:15 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:47:20 PM UTC-7, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz wrote:
> > > > Em sábado, 15 de maio de 2021 às 16:55:55 UTC-3, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz escreveu:
> > > > > Em quinta-feira, 1 de abril de 2021 às 18:22:07 UTC-3 escreveu:
> > > > > > Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > > You were kidding at April first.
> > > > >
> > > > > Do you like the axiom of choice yes or not?
> > > > >
> > > > > Does the number 6.999... = 7.000... exist?
> > > > > How many zeroes may we put after the point?
> > > > >
> > > > > << The Cartesianory of aleph_k copies of {0, 1} exist. For every k. Including k = 10^69."
> > > > >
> > > > > Does a polinomial in aleph_k variables exist?
> > > > >
> > > > > Does any number exist?
> > > > If the universe were Euclidean,
> > > > then 2^(1/2) would exist and 2^(1/3) would not.
> > > >
> > > > As nobody knows what is the geometry of the universe, like the curvature G,
> > > > then nobody knows what does exist? and what does not exist? at all.
> > > >
> > > > Everything is approximately equal to anything.
> > > >
> > > > Vinicius
> > > > 2021/May/15th
> > > Space is flat but gravity is round...
> > >
> > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > but 1=0.999.... is always true in real numbers :)
> They are different by the unlimited small fundamental.
> They are not the same quantity. They are another kind
> of equal.
>
> Mitchell Raemsch
there are no infinitesimals in real numbers, I have told you this.

0.999....=1 exactly, no difference.

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> > > > > > > Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > > > You were kidding at April first.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you like the axiom of choice yes or not?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does the number 6.999... = 7.000... exist?
> > > > > > How many zeroes may we put after the point?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > << The Cartesianory of aleph_k copies of {0, 1} exist. For every k. Including k = 10^69."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does a polinomial in aleph_k variables exist?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does any number exist?
> > > > > If the universe were Euclidean,
> > > > > then 2^(1/2) would exist and 2^(1/3) would not.
> > > > >
> > > > > As nobody knows what is the geometry of the universe, like the curvature G,
> > > > > then nobody knows what does exist? and what does not exist? at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > Everything is approximately equal to anything.
> > > > >
> > > > > Vinicius
> > > > > 2021/May/15th
> > > > Space is flat but gravity is round...
> > > >
> > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > but 1=0.999.... is always true in real numbers :)
> > They are different by the unlimited small fundamental.
> > They are not the same quantity. They are another kind
> > of equal.
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> there are no infinitesimals in real numbers, I have told you this.
>
> 0.999....=1 exactly, no difference.

https://twitter.com/mathspiritual/status/1395018339089592324
a² + b² = (a + 1)²
x² + y² = (x + 5)²

The republicanies think that dx == 0.
The democratches think that dx > 0.
Therefore dx >= 0. haha

20² + 15² = 25²
1100² + 105² = 1105²
101000² + 1005² = 101005²
10010000² + 10005² = 10010005²
1000100000² + 100005² = 1000100005²
100001000000² + 1000005² = 100001000005²
10000010000000² + 10000005² = 10000010000005²
1000000100000000² + 100000005² = 1000000100000005²
100000001000000000² + 1000000005² = 100000001000000005²
10000000010000000000² + 10000000005² = 10000000010000000005²
1000000000100000000000² + 100000000005² = 1000000000100000000005²
100000000001000000000000² + 1000000000005² = 100000000001000000000005²
10000000000010000000000000² + 10000000000005² = 10000000000010000000000005²
1000000000000100000000000000² + 100000000000005² = 1000000000000100000000000005²
100000000000001000000000000000² + 1000000000000005² = 100000000000001000000000000005²
10000000000000010000000000000000² + 10000000000000005² = 10000000000000010000000000000005²

I insist. How many zeroes may Pythagora concat?

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On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 10:18:19 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> tisdag 18 maj 2021 kl. 04:03:20 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 10:16:30 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > söndag 16 maj 2021 kl. 04:30:15 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > > On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:47:20 PM UTC-7, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz wrote:
> > > > > Em sábado, 15 de maio de 2021 às 16:55:55 UTC-3, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz escreveu:
> > > > > > Em quinta-feira, 1 de abril de 2021 às 18:22:07 UTC-3 escreveu:
> > > > > > > Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > > > You were kidding at April first.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Do you like the axiom of choice yes or not?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does the number 6.999... = 7.000... exist?
> > > > > > How many zeroes may we put after the point?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > << The Cartesianory of aleph_k copies of {0, 1} exist. For every k. Including k = 10^69."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does a polinomial in aleph_k variables exist?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does any number exist?
> > > > > If the universe were Euclidean,
> > > > > then 2^(1/2) would exist and 2^(1/3) would not.
> > > > >
> > > > > As nobody knows what is the geometry of the universe, like the curvature G,
> > > > > then nobody knows what does exist? and what does not exist? at all.
> > > > >
> > > > > Everything is approximately equal to anything.
> > > > >
> > > > > Vinicius
> > > > > 2021/May/15th
> > > > Space is flat but gravity is round...
> > > >
> > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > but 1=0.999.... is always true in real numbers :)
> > They are different by the unlimited small fundamental.
> > They are not the same quantity. They are another kind
> > of equal.
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> there are no infinitesimals in real numbers, I have told you this.
>
> 0.999....=1 exactly, no difference.

Not exactly you moron...
..999 repeating and 1are unlimited close and
are not absolutely equal. Because eternal
quantity is a continuum .999 repeating
and 1 are next to one another...

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: zelos...@gmail.com - Fri, 21 May 2021 06:37 UTC

torsdag 20 maj 2021 kl. 20:13:21 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 10:18:19 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > tisdag 18 maj 2021 kl. 04:03:20 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 10:16:30 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > söndag 16 maj 2021 kl. 04:30:15 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > > > On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:47:20 PM UTC-7, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz wrote:
> > > > > > Em sábado, 15 de maio de 2021 às 16:55:55 UTC-3, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz escreveu:
> > > > > > > Em quinta-feira, 1 de abril de 2021 às 18:22:07 UTC-3 escreveu:
> > > > > > > > Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > > > > You were kidding at April first.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you like the axiom of choice yes or not?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does the number 6.999... = 7.000... exist?
> > > > > > > How many zeroes may we put after the point?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > << The Cartesianory of aleph_k copies of {0, 1} exist. For every k. Including k = 10^69."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does a polinomial in aleph_k variables exist?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does any number exist?
> > > > > > If the universe were Euclidean,
> > > > > > then 2^(1/2) would exist and 2^(1/3) would not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As nobody knows what is the geometry of the universe, like the curvature G,
> > > > > > then nobody knows what does exist? and what does not exist? at all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Everything is approximately equal to anything.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vinicius
> > > > > > 2021/May/15th
> > > > > Space is flat but gravity is round...
> > > > >
> > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > but 1=0.999.... is always true in real numbers :)
> > > They are different by the unlimited small fundamental.
> > > They are not the same quantity. They are another kind
> > > of equal.
> > >
> > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > there are no infinitesimals in real numbers, I have told you this.
> >
> > 0.999....=1 exactly, no difference.
> Not exactly you moron...
> .999 repeating and 1are unlimited close and
> are not absolutely equal. Because eternal
> quantity is a continuum .999 repeating
> and 1 are next to one another...
>
> Mitchell Raemsch

Yes exactly equal, cause there are no infinitesimals in real numbers. Real numbers are archimedian.

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Fri, 21 May 2021 17:20 UTC

On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 11:37:17 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> torsdag 20 maj 2021 kl. 20:13:21 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 10:18:19 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > tisdag 18 maj 2021 kl. 04:03:20 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > > On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 10:16:30 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > söndag 16 maj 2021 kl. 04:30:15 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > > > > On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:47:20 PM UTC-7, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz wrote:
> > > > > > > Em sábado, 15 de maio de 2021 às 16:55:55 UTC-3, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz escreveu:
> > > > > > > > Em quinta-feira, 1 de abril de 2021 às 18:22:07 UTC-3 escreveu:
> > > > > > > > > Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > > > > > You were kidding at April first.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do you like the axiom of choice yes or not?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does the number 6.999... = 7.000... exist?
> > > > > > > > How many zeroes may we put after the point?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > << The Cartesianory of aleph_k copies of {0, 1} exist. For every k. Including k = 10^69."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does a polinomial in aleph_k variables exist?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does any number exist?
> > > > > > > If the universe were Euclidean,
> > > > > > > then 2^(1/2) would exist and 2^(1/3) would not.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As nobody knows what is the geometry of the universe, like the curvature G,
> > > > > > > then nobody knows what does exist? and what does not exist? at all.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Everything is approximately equal to anything.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Vinicius
> > > > > > > 2021/May/15th
> > > > > > Space is flat but gravity is round...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > > but 1=0.999.... is always true in real numbers :)
> > > > They are different by the unlimited small fundamental.
> > > > They are not the same quantity. They are another kind
> > > > of equal.
> > > >
> > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > there are no infinitesimals in real numbers, I have told you this.
> > >
> > > 0.999....=1 exactly, no difference.
> > Not exactly you moron...
> > .999 repeating and 1are unlimited close and
> > are not absolutely equal. Because eternal
> > quantity is a continuum .999 repeating
> > and 1 are next to one another...
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch
>
> Yes exactly equal, cause there are no infinitesimals in real numbers. Real numbers are archimedian.

No. there is another kind of equal or a difference by the sub finite.
Quantities can be different by the unlimited small and still
share equality. Their differences still balance on an algebraic
scale like the zero difference.

Mitchell Raemsch

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On 5/21/2021 1:20 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 11:37:17 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
>> torsdag 20 maj 2021 kl. 20:13:21 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
>>> On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 10:18:19 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> tisdag 18 maj 2021 kl. 04:03:20 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
>>>>> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 10:16:30 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> söndag 16 maj 2021 kl. 04:30:15 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
>>>>>>> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:47:20 PM UTC-7, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz wrote:
>>>>>>>> Em sábado, 15 de maio de 2021 às 16:55:55 UTC-3, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz escreveu:
>>>>>>>>> Em quinta-feira, 1 de abril de 2021 às 18:22:07 UTC-3 escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>> Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>>>>>>> You were kidding at April first.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Do you like the axiom of choice yes or not?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does the number 6.999... = 7.000... exist?
>>>>>>>>> How many zeroes may we put after the point?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> << The Cartesianory of aleph_k copies of {0, 1} exist. For every k. Including k = 10^69."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does a polinomial in aleph_k variables exist?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does any number exist?
>>>>>>>> If the universe were Euclidean,
>>>>>>>> then 2^(1/2) would exist and 2^(1/3) would not.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As nobody knows what is the geometry of the universe, like the curvature G,
>>>>>>>> then nobody knows what does exist? and what does not exist? at all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Everything is approximately equal to anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vinicius
>>>>>>>> 2021/May/15th
>>>>>>> Space is flat but gravity is round...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>>>> but 1=0.999.... is always true in real numbers :)
>>>>> They are different by the unlimited small fundamental.
>>>>> They are not the same quantity. They are another kind
>>>>> of equal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>> there are no infinitesimals in real numbers, I have told you this.
>>>>
>>>> 0.999....=1 exactly, no difference.
>>> Not exactly you moron...
>>> .999 repeating and 1are unlimited close and
>>> are not absolutely equal. Because eternal
>>> quantity is a continuum .999 repeating
>>> and 1 are next to one another...
>>>
>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>
>> Yes exactly equal, cause there are no infinitesimals in real numbers. Real numbers are archimedian.
>
> No. there is another kind of equal or a difference by the sub finite.
> Quantities can be different by the unlimited small and still
> share equality. Their differences still balance on an algebraic
> scale like the zero difference.

Nobody cares about your opinion, Roy. If you want anyone to care, you
need to work out a proof of your claims.

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Sat, 22 May 2021 00:29 UTC

On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 1:04:33 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 5/21/2021 1:20 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 11:37:17 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> torsdag 20 maj 2021 kl. 20:13:21 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> >>> On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 10:18:19 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>> tisdag 18 maj 2021 kl. 04:03:20 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> >>>>> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 10:16:30 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>> söndag 16 maj 2021 kl. 04:30:15 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> >>>>>>> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:47:20 PM UTC-7, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Em sábado, 15 de maio de 2021 às 16:55:55 UTC-3, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz escreveu:
> >>>>>>>>> Em quinta-feira, 1 de abril de 2021 às 18:22:07 UTC-3 escreveu:
> >>>>>>>>>> Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
> >>>>>>>>> You were kidding at April first.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Do you like the axiom of choice yes or not?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Does the number 6.999... = 7.000... exist?
> >>>>>>>>> How many zeroes may we put after the point?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> << The Cartesianory of aleph_k copies of {0, 1} exist. For every k. Including k = 10^69."
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Does a polinomial in aleph_k variables exist?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Does any number exist?
> >>>>>>>> If the universe were Euclidean,
> >>>>>>>> then 2^(1/2) would exist and 2^(1/3) would not.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As nobody knows what is the geometry of the universe, like the curvature G,
> >>>>>>>> then nobody knows what does exist? and what does not exist? at all.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Everything is approximately equal to anything.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Vinicius
> >>>>>>>> 2021/May/15th
> >>>>>>> Space is flat but gravity is round...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
> >>>>>> but 1=0.999.... is always true in real numbers :)
> >>>>> They are different by the unlimited small fundamental.
> >>>>> They are not the same quantity. They are another kind
> >>>>> of equal.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
> >>>> there are no infinitesimals in real numbers, I have told you this.
> >>>>
> >>>> 0.999....=1 exactly, no difference.
> >>> Not exactly you moron...
> >>> .999 repeating and 1are unlimited close and
> >>> are not absolutely equal. Because eternal
> >>> quantity is a continuum .999 repeating
> >>> and 1 are next to one another...
> >>>
> >>> Mitchell Raemsch
> >>
> >> Yes exactly equal, cause there are no infinitesimals in real numbers. Real numbers are archimedian.
> >
> > No. there is another kind of equal or a difference by the sub finite.
> > Quantities can be different by the unlimited small and still
> > share equality. Their differences still balance on an algebraic
> > scale like the zero difference.
> Nobody cares about your opinion, Roy. If you want anyone to care, you
> need to work out a proof of your claims.

there is another equality that is demonstrated by
the two representations of .9 repeating.
This shows that an infinitesimal difference
behave as a second kind of equality.

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Sat, 22 May 2021 17:43 UTC

On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 5:29:26 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 1:04:33 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > On 5/21/2021 1:20 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 11:37:17 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >> torsdag 20 maj 2021 kl. 20:13:21 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > >>> On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 10:18:19 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>>> tisdag 18 maj 2021 kl. 04:03:20 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > >>>>> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 10:16:30 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>>>>> söndag 16 maj 2021 kl. 04:30:15 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail..com:
> > >>>>>>> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:47:20 PM UTC-7, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz wrote:
> > >>>>>>>> Em sábado, 15 de maio de 2021 às 16:55:55 UTC-3, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz escreveu:
> > >>>>>>>>> Em quinta-feira, 1 de abril de 2021 às 18:22:07 UTC-3 escreveu:
> > >>>>>>>>>> Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
> > >>>>>>>>> You were kidding at April first.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Do you like the axiom of choice yes or not?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Does the number 6.999... = 7.000... exist?
> > >>>>>>>>> How many zeroes may we put after the point?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> << The Cartesianory of aleph_k copies of {0, 1} exist. For every k. Including k = 10^69."
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Does a polinomial in aleph_k variables exist?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Does any number exist?
> > >>>>>>>> If the universe were Euclidean,
> > >>>>>>>> then 2^(1/2) would exist and 2^(1/3) would not.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> As nobody knows what is the geometry of the universe, like the curvature G,
> > >>>>>>>> then nobody knows what does exist? and what does not exist? at all.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Everything is approximately equal to anything.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Vinicius
> > >>>>>>>> 2021/May/15th
> > >>>>>>> Space is flat but gravity is round...
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
> > >>>>>> but 1=0.999.... is always true in real numbers :)
> > >>>>> They are different by the unlimited small fundamental.
> > >>>>> They are not the same quantity. They are another kind
> > >>>>> of equal.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
> > >>>> there are no infinitesimals in real numbers, I have told you this.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 0.999....=1 exactly, no difference.
> > >>> Not exactly you moron...
> > >>> .999 repeating and 1are unlimited close and
> > >>> are not absolutely equal. Because eternal
> > >>> quantity is a continuum .999 repeating
> > >>> and 1 are next to one another...
> > >>>
> > >>> Mitchell Raemsch
> > >>
> > >> Yes exactly equal, cause there are no infinitesimals in real numbers.. Real numbers are archimedian.
> > >
> > > No. there is another kind of equal or a difference by the sub finite.
> > > Quantities can be different by the unlimited small and still
> > > share equality. Their differences still balance on an algebraic
> > > scale like the zero difference.
> > Nobody cares about your opinion, Roy. If you want anyone to care, you
> > need to work out a proof of your claims.
> there is another equality that is demonstrated by
> the two representations of .9 repeating.
> This shows that an infinitesimal difference
> behave as a second kind of equality.

There is another kind of equality that
shows up in different quantity representations...
..999 repeating and 1 are not the same quantity.
but they do share an equality that is not absolute.

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On Saturday, May 22, 2021 at 10:43:59 AM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 5:29:26 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 1:04:33 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > > On 5/21/2021 1:20 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 11:37:17 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >> torsdag 20 maj 2021 kl. 20:13:21 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > >>> On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 10:18:19 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >>>> tisdag 18 maj 2021 kl. 04:03:20 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > >>>>> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 10:16:30 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >>>>>> söndag 16 maj 2021 kl. 04:30:15 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > >>>>>>> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:47:20 PM UTC-7, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz wrote:
> > > >>>>>>>> Em sábado, 15 de maio de 2021 às 16:55:55 UTC-3, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz escreveu:
> > > >>>>>>>>> Em quinta-feira, 1 de abril de 2021 às 18:22:07 UTC-3 escreveu:
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
> > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
> > > >>>>>>>>> You were kidding at April first.
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Do you like the axiom of choice yes or not?
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Does the number 6.999... = 7.000... exist?
> > > >>>>>>>>> How many zeroes may we put after the point?
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> << The Cartesianory of aleph_k copies of {0, 1} exist. For every k. Including k = 10^69."
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Does a polinomial in aleph_k variables exist?
> > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>>> Does any number exist?
> > > >>>>>>>> If the universe were Euclidean,
> > > >>>>>>>> then 2^(1/2) would exist and 2^(1/3) would not.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> As nobody knows what is the geometry of the universe, like the curvature G,
> > > >>>>>>>> then nobody knows what does exist? and what does not exist? at all.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Everything is approximately equal to anything.
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> Vinicius
> > > >>>>>>>> 2021/May/15th
> > > >>>>>>> Space is flat but gravity is round...
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
> > > >>>>>> but 1=0.999.... is always true in real numbers :)
> > > >>>>> They are different by the unlimited small fundamental.
> > > >>>>> They are not the same quantity. They are another kind
> > > >>>>> of equal.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
> > > >>>> there are no infinitesimals in real numbers, I have told you this.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> 0.999....=1 exactly, no difference.
> > > >>> Not exactly you moron...
> > > >>> .999 repeating and 1are unlimited close and
> > > >>> are not absolutely equal. Because eternal
> > > >>> quantity is a continuum .999 repeating
> > > >>> and 1 are next to one another...
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Mitchell Raemsch
> > > >>
> > > >> Yes exactly equal, cause there are no infinitesimals in real numbers. Real numbers are archimedian.
> > > >
> > > > No. there is another kind of equal or a difference by the sub finite.
> > > > Quantities can be different by the unlimited small and still
> > > > share equality. Their differences still balance on an algebraic
> > > > scale like the zero difference.
> > > Nobody cares about your opinion, Roy. If you want anyone to care, you
> > > need to work out a proof of your claims.
> > there is another equality that is demonstrated by
> > the two representations of .9 repeating.
> > This shows that an infinitesimal difference
> > behave as a second kind of equality.
> There is another kind of equality that
> shows up in different quantity representations...
> .999 repeating and 1 are not the same quantity.
> but they do share an equality that is not absolute.

Two kinds of equality exist. Math needs a clue.
a difference by the unlimited small and zero
behaves the same.

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On 5/22/2021 1:43 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 5:29:26 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Friday, May 21, 2021 at 1:04:33 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>> On 5/21/2021 1:20 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 11:37:17 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> torsdag 20 maj 2021 kl. 20:13:21 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 10:18:19 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> tisdag 18 maj 2021 kl. 04:03:20 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 10:16:30 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> söndag 16 maj 2021 kl. 04:30:15 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:47:20 PM UTC-7, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Em sábado, 15 de maio de 2021 às 16:55:55 UTC-3, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Em quinta-feira, 1 de abril de 2021 às 18:22:07 UTC-3 escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>>>>>>>>>> You were kidding at April first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you like the axiom of choice yes or not?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does the number 6.999... = 7.000... exist?
>>>>>>>>>>>> How many zeroes may we put after the point?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> << The Cartesianory of aleph_k copies of {0, 1} exist. For every k. Including k = 10^69."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does a polinomial in aleph_k variables exist?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Does any number exist?
>>>>>>>>>>> If the universe were Euclidean,
>>>>>>>>>>> then 2^(1/2) would exist and 2^(1/3) would not.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As nobody knows what is the geometry of the universe, like the curvature G,
>>>>>>>>>>> then nobody knows what does exist? and what does not exist? at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Everything is approximately equal to anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Vinicius
>>>>>>>>>>> 2021/May/15th
>>>>>>>>>> Space is flat but gravity is round...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>>>>>>> but 1=0.999.... is always true in real numbers :)
>>>>>>>> They are different by the unlimited small fundamental.
>>>>>>>> They are not the same quantity. They are another kind
>>>>>>>> of equal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>>>>> there are no infinitesimals in real numbers, I have told you this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 0.999....=1 exactly, no difference.
>>>>>> Not exactly you moron...
>>>>>> .999 repeating and 1are unlimited close and
>>>>>> are not absolutely equal. Because eternal
>>>>>> quantity is a continuum .999 repeating
>>>>>> and 1 are next to one another...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes exactly equal, cause there are no infinitesimals in real numbers. Real numbers are archimedian.
>>>>
>>>> No. there is another kind of equal or a difference by the sub finite.
>>>> Quantities can be different by the unlimited small and still
>>>> share equality. Their differences still balance on an algebraic
>>>> scale like the zero difference.
>>> Nobody cares about your opinion, Roy. If you want anyone to care, you
>>> need to work out a proof of your claims.
>> there is another equality that is demonstrated by
>> the two representations of .9 repeating.

What do you mean by that, Roy? There is only one representation of
0.999..., and it is provably equal to 1 exactly.

>> This shows that an infinitesimal difference
>> behave as a second kind of equality.
>
> There is another kind of equality that
> shows up in different quantity representations...
> .999 repeating and 1 are not the same quantity.

Nobody cares about your useless opinion, Roy. Math needs a proper
proof. Unfortunately, math proofs state that 0.999... is exactly equal to 1.

> but they do share an equality that is not absolute.

Math has proven they share an absolute equality, regardless of your
opinion. There is no other form of equality.

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You all are too out of standards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonstandard_analysis

> >>>>>>>>>>>> Em quinta-feira, 1 de abril de 2021 às 18:22:07 UTC-3 escreveu:

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 by: zelos...@gmail.com - Mon, 24 May 2021 05:06 UTC

fredag 21 maj 2021 kl. 19:20:55 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 11:37:17 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > torsdag 20 maj 2021 kl. 20:13:21 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 10:18:19 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > tisdag 18 maj 2021 kl. 04:03:20 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > > > On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 10:16:30 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > söndag 16 maj 2021 kl. 04:30:15 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > > > > > On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:47:20 PM UTC-7, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz wrote:
> > > > > > > > Em sábado, 15 de maio de 2021 às 16:55:55 UTC-3, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz escreveu:
> > > > > > > > > Em quinta-feira, 1 de abril de 2021 às 18:22:07 UTC-3 escreveu:
> > > > > > > > > > Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > > > > > > You were kidding at April first.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Do you like the axiom of choice yes or not?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does the number 6.999... = 7.000... exist?
> > > > > > > > > How many zeroes may we put after the point?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > << The Cartesianory of aleph_k copies of {0, 1} exist. For every k. Including k = 10^69."
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does a polinomial in aleph_k variables exist?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does any number exist?
> > > > > > > > If the universe were Euclidean,
> > > > > > > > then 2^(1/2) would exist and 2^(1/3) would not.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > As nobody knows what is the geometry of the universe, like the curvature G,
> > > > > > > > then nobody knows what does exist? and what does not exist? at all.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Everything is approximately equal to anything.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Vinicius
> > > > > > > > 2021/May/15th
> > > > > > > Space is flat but gravity is round...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > > > but 1=0.999.... is always true in real numbers :)
> > > > > They are different by the unlimited small fundamental.
> > > > > They are not the same quantity. They are another kind
> > > > > of equal.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > there are no infinitesimals in real numbers, I have told you this.
> > > >
> > > > 0.999....=1 exactly, no difference.
> > > Not exactly you moron...
> > > .999 repeating and 1are unlimited close and
> > > are not absolutely equal. Because eternal
> > > quantity is a continuum .999 repeating
> > > and 1 are next to one another...
> > >
> > > Mitchell Raemsch
> >
> > Yes exactly equal, cause there are no infinitesimals in real numbers. Real numbers are archimedian.
> No. there is another kind of equal or a difference by the sub finite.
> Quantities can be different by the unlimited small and still
> share equality. Their differences still balance on an algebraic
> scale like the zero difference.
>
> Mitchell Raemsch
There are no infinitesimals in real numbers, get over it already!

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On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 10:06:41 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> fredag 21 maj 2021 kl. 19:20:55 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 11:37:17 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > torsdag 20 maj 2021 kl. 20:13:21 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > > On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 10:18:19 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > tisdag 18 maj 2021 kl. 04:03:20 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > > > > On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 10:16:30 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > söndag 16 maj 2021 kl. 04:30:15 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > > > > > > On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:47:20 PM UTC-7, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Em sábado, 15 de maio de 2021 às 16:55:55 UTC-3, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz escreveu:
> > > > > > > > > > Em quinta-feira, 1 de abril de 2021 às 18:22:07 UTC-3 escreveu:
> > > > > > > > > > > Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > > > > > > > You were kidding at April first.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Do you like the axiom of choice yes or not?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Does the number 6.999... = 7.000... exist?
> > > > > > > > > > How many zeroes may we put after the point?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > << The Cartesianory of aleph_k copies of {0, 1} exist. For every k. Including k = 10^69."
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Does a polinomial in aleph_k variables exist?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Does any number exist?
> > > > > > > > > If the universe were Euclidean,
> > > > > > > > > then 2^(1/2) would exist and 2^(1/3) would not.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > As nobody knows what is the geometry of the universe, like the curvature G,
> > > > > > > > > then nobody knows what does exist? and what does not exist? at all.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Everything is approximately equal to anything.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Vinicius
> > > > > > > > > 2021/May/15th
> > > > > > > > Space is flat but gravity is round...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > > > > but 1=0.999.... is always true in real numbers :)
> > > > > > They are different by the unlimited small fundamental.
> > > > > > They are not the same quantity. They are another kind
> > > > > > of equal.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > > there are no infinitesimals in real numbers, I have told you this..
> > > > >
> > > > > 0.999....=1 exactly, no difference.
> > > > Not exactly you moron...
> > > > .999 repeating and 1are unlimited close and
> > > > are not absolutely equal. Because eternal
> > > > quantity is a continuum .999 repeating
> > > > and 1 are next to one another...
> > > >
> > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > >
> > > Yes exactly equal, cause there are no infinitesimals in real numbers. Real numbers are archimedian.
> > No. there is another kind of equal or a difference by the sub finite.
> > Quantities can be different by the unlimited small and still
> > share equality. Their differences still balance on an algebraic
> > scale like the zero difference.
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> There are no infinitesimals in real numbers, get over it already!

Can you prove a quantity is not real you moron?
Why would Calculus infinitesimal not be?
Add it to .999 repeating you will get 1.

Mitchell Raemsch

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tisdag 1 juni 2021 kl. 21:40:22 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> On Sunday, May 23, 2021 at 10:06:41 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > fredag 21 maj 2021 kl. 19:20:55 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 11:37:17 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > torsdag 20 maj 2021 kl. 20:13:21 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > > > On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 10:18:19 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > tisdag 18 maj 2021 kl. 04:03:20 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > > > > > On Sunday, May 16, 2021 at 10:16:30 PM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > söndag 16 maj 2021 kl. 04:30:15 UTC+2 skrev mitchr...@gmail.com:
> > > > > > > > > On Saturday, May 15, 2021 at 2:47:20 PM UTC-7, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Em sábado, 15 de maio de 2021 às 16:55:55 UTC-3, Vinicius Claudino Ferraz escreveu:
> > > > > > > > > > > Em quinta-feira, 1 de abril de 2021 às 18:22:07 UTC-3 escreveu:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Add the infinitely small to .999 repeating.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > > > > > > > > You were kidding at April first.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Do you like the axiom of choice yes or not?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Does the number 6.999... = 7.000... exist?
> > > > > > > > > > > How many zeroes may we put after the point?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > << The Cartesianory of aleph_k copies of {0, 1} exist.. For every k. Including k = 10^69."
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Does a polinomial in aleph_k variables exist?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Does any number exist?
> > > > > > > > > > If the universe were Euclidean,
> > > > > > > > > > then 2^(1/2) would exist and 2^(1/3) would not.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > As nobody knows what is the geometry of the universe, like the curvature G,
> > > > > > > > > > then nobody knows what does exist? and what does not exist? at all.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Everything is approximately equal to anything.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Vinicius
> > > > > > > > > > 2021/May/15th
> > > > > > > > > Space is flat but gravity is round...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > > > > > but 1=0.999.... is always true in real numbers :)
> > > > > > > They are different by the unlimited small fundamental.
> > > > > > > They are not the same quantity. They are another kind
> > > > > > > of equal.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > > > > there are no infinitesimals in real numbers, I have told you this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 0.999....=1 exactly, no difference.
> > > > > Not exactly you moron...
> > > > > .999 repeating and 1are unlimited close and
> > > > > are not absolutely equal. Because eternal
> > > > > quantity is a continuum .999 repeating
> > > > > and 1 are next to one another...
> > > > >
> > > > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > > >
> > > > Yes exactly equal, cause there are no infinitesimals in real numbers. Real numbers are archimedian.
> > > No. there is another kind of equal or a difference by the sub finite.
> > > Quantities can be different by the unlimited small and still
> > > share equality. Their differences still balance on an algebraic
> > > scale like the zero difference.
> > >
> > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > There are no infinitesimals in real numbers, get over it already!
> Can you prove a quantity is not real you moron?
> Why would Calculus infinitesimal not be?
> Add it to .999 repeating you will get 1.
>
> Mitchell Raemsch

yes, I can
https://proofwiki.org/wiki/Archimedean_Principle

You lose.


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