mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> How could its speed be both absolute and relative?
> If the source of the gravity field is in below C relative motion in
> space how does that propagate? and how is it an absolute speed?

force injecting the elderly with poisonous highly toxic substances?? I
didn't know human can be this evil. Bill gates has a very valid point
here. This planet is a shithole.

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 8:45:29 AM UTC-7, Jim Schreck wrote:
>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > How could its speed be both absolute and relative?
>> > If the source of the gravity field is in below C relative motion in
>> > space how does that propagate? and how is it an absolute speed?
>
> The Earth moves and it has it's own gravity field center... The gravity
> field for the Earth moves with the Earth.
> There is more than one level of movement in the universe.
> You can move yourself or not on your world line...

You love me long time?

"If gravity propagates?"

Information of (The curvature of spacetime caused by matter) Propagates

Causality Propagates at c

On 5/6/21 1:08 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> if the Earth moves it takes it's gravity field with it.
> How can gravity propagate from the Earth if the Earth is changing position?

Our best model of gravity is General Relativity (GR).

In GR, gravity does not "propagate" (that is an oxymoron), but CHANGES
in gravity propagate with speed c relative to any locally inertial frame.

In the solar system, gravity is weak enough that there is an
approximately inertial frame in which the solar system barycenter is at
rest, and which encompasses the planets and Pluto, with accuracy
sufficient for navigation of space probes among the planets. If you
picked a location P at rest in this inertial frame, and observed the
gravity due to the earth, at any given time T it would correspond to the
gravity from the retarded position of the earth -- i.e. the position
where earth was a short time earlier such that a light pulse from earth
at that instant would reach P at time T.

So speaking loosely, the earth "carries its gravitational field with
it". But at any given location, when the earth is a distance D away, it
corresponds to a time D/c ago. Note also that one must use an inertial
frame for this (or an approximately inertial frame, where the
approximation is better than the accuracy desired).

Tom Roberts

On Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 23:02:17 UTC+2, tjrob137 wrote:

> Our best model of gravity is General Relativity (GR).

It can't even provide a consistent system of coordinates,
but its symmetry is beautiful, indeed.

mitchidiotcrank@gmail.com schwrote:
> On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 2:02:17 PM UTC-7, tjrob137 wrote:
>> On 5/6/21 1:08 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> if the Earth moves it takes it's gravity field with it.
>>> How can gravity propagate from the Earth if the Earth is changing position?
>> Our best model of gravity is General Relativity (GR).
>>
>> In GR, gravity does not "propagate" (that is an oxymoron), but CHANGES
>> in gravity propagate with speed c relative to any locally inertial frame.
>
> A change in gravity is still gravity you moron.
> Try again...
>
>> Tom Roberts
>
> Tom? Try to do something right instead...
>
> Mitchell Raemsch

Smitch, could you consider shut the fuck up once for a
while... You're such an idiot, this is boring.

On 5/6/21 6:15 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 2:02:17 PM UTC-7, tjrob137 wrote:
>> On 5/6/21 1:08 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> if the Earth moves it takes it's gravity field with it.
>>> How can gravity propagate from the Earth if the Earth is changing position?
>> Our best model of gravity is General Relativity (GR).
>>
>> In GR, gravity does not "propagate" (that is an oxymoron), but CHANGES
>> in gravity propagate with speed c relative to any locally inertial frame.
>
> A change in gravity is still gravity

Analogy: consider a still pond: does the surface of the water
"propagate"? -- No. But drop a rock into the water and you immediately
see that waves on the surface clearly do propagate.

In GR, gravity exists everywhere/everywhen and does not propagate, but
like waves on a pond, CHANGES in gravity do propagate.

Tom Roberts

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 4:34:12 PM UTC-7, Python wrote:
> mitchid...@gmail.com schwrote:
> > On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 2:02:17 PM UTC-7, tjrob137 wrote:
> >> On 5/6/21 1:08 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> if the Earth moves it takes it's gravity field with it.
> >>> How can gravity propagate from the Earth if the Earth is changing position?
> >> Our best model of gravity is General Relativity (GR).
> >>
> >> In GR, gravity does not "propagate" (that is an oxymoron), but CHANGES
> >> in gravity propagate with speed c relative to any locally inertial frame.
> >
> > A change in gravity is still gravity you moron.
> > Try again...
> >
> >> Tom Roberts
> >
> > Tom? Try to do something right instead...
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> Smitch, could you consider shut the fuck up once for a
> while... You're such an idiot, this is boring.

I must have done something right.
Einstein didn't see his inertial frames don't exist
out in empty space because gravity is everywhere...

Mitchell Raemsch

Le 06/05/2021 à 20:08, "mitchr...@gmail.com" a écrit :
> On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 8:36:58 AM UTC-7, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
>> "If gravity propagates?"
>>
>> Information of (The curvature of spacetime caused by matter) Propagates
>>
>> Causality Propagates at c
>
> if the Earth moves it takes it's gravity field with it.
> How can gravity propagate from the Earth if the Earth is changing position?

Earth not changes position.

Gravity spreads instantly.

It is only to the transverse observer that it takes on the appearance of
a wave moving at c.

> Mitchell Raemsch

R.H.

On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 9:07:17 AM UTC-7, Richard Hachel wrote:
> Le 06/05/2021 à 20:08, "mitchr...@gmail.com" a écrit :
> > On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 8:36:58 AM UTC-7, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> >> "If gravity propagates?"
> >>
> >> Information of (The curvature of spacetime caused by matter) Propagates
> >>
> >> Causality Propagates at c
> >
> > if the Earth moves it takes it's gravity field with it.
> > How can gravity propagate from the Earth if the Earth is changing position?
> Earth not changes position.

It changes position in more than one way...
You moron... Earth and its gravity changes position around the Sun...
The Earth orbits and it Rotates in its multiple motion.

Mitchell Raemsch

> Gravity spreads instantly.
>
>
> > Mitchell Raemsch
>
> R.H.

Le 11/05/2021 à 20:10, "mitchr...@gmail.com" a écrit :
> On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 9:07:17 AM UTC-7, Richard Hachel wrote:
>> Le 06/05/2021 à 20:08, "mitchr...@gmail.com" a écrit :
>> > On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 8:36:58 AM UTC-7, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller
>> wrote:
>> >> "If gravity propagates?"
>> >>
>> >> Information of (The curvature of spacetime caused by matter) Propagates
>> >>
>> >> Causality Propagates at c
>> >
>> > if the Earth moves it takes it's gravity field with it.
>> > How can gravity propagate from the Earth if the Earth is changing position?
>> Earth not changes position.
>
> It changes position in more than one way...
> You moron... Earth and its gravity changes position around the Sun...
> The Earth orbits and it Rotates in its multiple motion.
>
> Mitchell Raemsch
>
>> Gravity spreads instantly.
>>
>>
>> > Mitchell Raemsch
>>
>> R.H.

Gravity spreads instantly.

Causality Propagates at c only by an a transversal observer.

Je répête ça depuis 1986, et il est très probable que le mourrai sans
que personne ne soit jamais capable de comprendre ce que je dis.

C'est dramatique pour vous.

R.H.

R.H.

On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 3:42:41 PM UTC-7, Richard Hachel wrote:
> Le 11/05/2021 à 20:10, "mitchr...@gmail.com" a écrit :
> > On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 9:07:17 AM UTC-7, Richard Hachel wrote:
> >> Le 06/05/2021 à 20:08, "mitchr...@gmail.com" a écrit :
> >> > On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 8:36:58 AM UTC-7, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller
> >> wrote:
> >> >> "If gravity propagates?"
> >> >>
> >> >> Information of (The curvature of spacetime caused by matter) Propagates
> >> >>
> >> >> Causality Propagates at c
> >> >
> >> > if the Earth moves it takes it's gravity field with it.
> >> > How can gravity propagate from the Earth if the Earth is changing position?
> >> Earth not changes position.
> >
> > It changes position in more than one way...
> > You moron... Earth and its gravity changes position around the Sun...
> > The Earth orbits and it Rotates in its multiple motion.
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> >
> >> Gravity spreads instantly.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Mitchell Raemsch
> >>
> >> R.H.
> Gravity spreads instantly.

Mathematical God creates gravity at His Absolute Zero...

>
> Causality Propagates at c only by an a transversal observer.

Not from gravity...

Mitchell Raemsch
>
> R.H.

Le 13/05/2021 à 19:38, "mitchr...@gmail.com" a écrit :

>> Causality Propagates at c only by an a transversal observer.
>
> Not from gravity...

For everything.

R.H.

Tom Roberts wrote:

> On 5/6/21 6:15 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> A change in gravity is still gravity
>
> Analogy: consider a still pond: does the surface of the water
> "propagate"?
> -- No. But drop a rock into the water and you immediately see that waves
> on the surface clearly do propagate.
> In GR, gravity exists everywhere/everywhen and does not propagate, but
> like waves on a pond, CHANGES in gravity do propagate.

completely nonsense analogy. You have rock and you have water, two
independent unrelated surfaces. But gravity is tight related to matter,
hence you can't possibly have it propagate. No matter implies no gravity.
According to the saying "matter tells gravity how to bend, and gravity
tells matter where it is."

On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 1:09:01 PM UTC-5, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, May 6, 2021 at 8:36:58 AM UTC-7, David (Kronos Prime) Fuller wrote:
> > "If gravity propagates?"
> >
> > Information of (The curvature of spacetime caused by matter) Propagates
> >
> > Causality Propagates at c
> if the Earth moves it takes it's gravity field with it.
> How can gravity propagate from the Earth if the Earth is changing position?
>
> Mitchell Raemsch

Changes to the curvature of spacetime caused by earth's gravity also propagate at c

if the sun disappeared, the orbit of earth wouldn't change for 8 minutes