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https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-57653901

I like them all!

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 by: Pent - Wed, 7 Jul 2021 19:08 UTC

On 07/07/2021 08:47, StarDust wrote:
> https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-57653901
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> I like them all!
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Impressive, and not a Starlink in sight. ;-)

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 by: fred k. engels® - Wed, 7 Jul 2021 19:35 UTC

Prime Minister Justin Blackface Trudeau tweeted his condolences
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On 07/07/2021 08:47, StarDust wrote:
> https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-57653901
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> I like them all!
>

Impressive, and not a Starlink in sight. ;-)

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On Wednesday, 7 July 2021 at 03:47:40 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-57653901
>
> I like them all!
Veil - great
Aurora - ok
Dolphin Head - great
Harmony - boring (star landscapes, done to death)
Iceland Vortex - ok (lots of aurora shots lack any textural detail)
Luna Park - junk
Moonrise Jodrell - too flat
NGC-2024 - good detail, diffraction spikes a bit distracting
NGC-3981 - great shot, but done on huge expensive scope
Path of full moon - junk
Pleiades - Problematic. Square artifacts around bright stars. Ugly.
Saturn - outstanding
Startrails over city - boring
Star watcher - boring, trailed car lights, snore.
Sunrise of the magic city - abstract junk
Comet 2020F8 - terrific!
The Soul of Space - not bad, but too much detail smoothing, looks plasticky

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On Friday, 9 July 2021 at 03:33:29 UTC+1, RichA wrote:
> On Wednesday, 7 July 2021 at 03:47:40 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-57653901
> >
> > I like them all!
> Veil - great
> Aurora - ok
> Dolphin Head - great
> Harmony - boring (star landscapes, done to death)
> Iceland Vortex - ok (lots of aurora shots lack any textural detail)
> Luna Park - junk
> Moonrise Jodrell - too flat
> NGC-2024 - good detail, diffraction spikes a bit distracting
> NGC-3981 - great shot, but done on huge expensive scope
> Path of full moon - junk
> Pleiades - Problematic. Square artifacts around bright stars. Ugly.
> Saturn - outstanding
> Startrails over city - boring
> Star watcher - boring, trailed car lights, snore.
> Sunrise of the magic city - abstract junk
> Comet 2020F8 - terrific!
> The Soul of Space - not bad, but too much detail smoothing, looks plasticky

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On Friday, 9 July 2021 at 03:33:29 UTC+1, RichA wrote:
> On Wednesday, 7 July 2021 at 03:47:40 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-57653901
> >
> > I like them all!
> Veil - great
> Aurora - ok
> Dolphin Head - great
> Harmony - boring (star landscapes, done to death)
> Iceland Vortex - ok (lots of aurora shots lack any textural detail)
> Luna Park - junk
> Moonrise Jodrell - too flat
> NGC-2024 - good detail, diffraction spikes a bit distracting
> NGC-3981 - great shot, but done on huge expensive scope
> Path of full moon - junk
> Pleiades - Problematic. Square artifacts around bright stars. Ugly.
> Saturn - outstanding
> Startrails over city - boring
> Star watcher - boring, trailed car lights, snore.
> Sunrise of the magic city - abstract junk
> Comet 2020F8 - terrific!
> The Soul of Space - not bad, but too much detail smoothing, looks plasticky

I agree with all your comments about this. Especially the Jodrell Bank photo. A fiend of mine has taken lots of better Jodrell Bank images.

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On Friday, 9 July 2021 at 05:20:37 UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Friday, 9 July 2021 at 03:33:29 UTC+1, RichA wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 7 July 2021 at 03:47:40 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > > https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-57653901
> > >
> > > I like them all!
> > Veil - great
> > Aurora - ok
> > Dolphin Head - great
> > Harmony - boring (star landscapes, done to death)
> > Iceland Vortex - ok (lots of aurora shots lack any textural detail)
> > Luna Park - junk
> > Moonrise Jodrell - too flat
> > NGC-2024 - good detail, diffraction spikes a bit distracting
> > NGC-3981 - great shot, but done on huge expensive scope
> > Path of full moon - junk
> > Pleiades - Problematic. Square artifacts around bright stars. Ugly.
> > Saturn - outstanding
> > Startrails over city - boring
> > Star watcher - boring, trailed car lights, snore.
> > Sunrise of the magic city - abstract junk
> > Comet 2020F8 - terrific!
> > The Soul of Space - not bad, but too much detail smoothing, looks plasticky
> I agree with all your comments about this. Especially the Jodrell Bank photo. A fiend of mine has taken lots of better Jodrell Bank images.

We're into a situation now where people are kind of loafing along in astronomy imaging, some of them anyway. The landscape/starfield shots have been done to death
on conventional photo groups and widefield shots seem to be the order of the day. One company even sells a lens with a tiny 45mm aperture. There have always been wide-angle shots,
but now they predominate thanks the advent of fast apochromatic refractors with short focal lengths. I prefer up-close shots of celestial objects like galaxies, clusters, planets, nebulae.
What does surprise me a bit are some of the aurora shots. With high-powered 35mm and medium format sensors today with low noise levels, plus the most fantastic noise reduction software
ever, I don't get why they don't boost the ISO's and try to capture aurora FASTER, before all the detail is washed-away by the motion of the aurora.

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On Friday, 9 July 2021 at 23:09:16 UTC+1, RichA wrote:
> On Friday, 9 July 2021 at 05:20:37 UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
> > On Friday, 9 July 2021 at 03:33:29 UTC+1, RichA wrote:
> > > On Wednesday, 7 July 2021 at 03:47:40 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > > > https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-57653901
> > > >
> > > > I like them all!
> > > Veil - great
> > > Aurora - ok
> > > Dolphin Head - great
> > > Harmony - boring (star landscapes, done to death)
> > > Iceland Vortex - ok (lots of aurora shots lack any textural detail)
> > > Luna Park - junk
> > > Moonrise Jodrell - too flat
> > > NGC-2024 - good detail, diffraction spikes a bit distracting
> > > NGC-3981 - great shot, but done on huge expensive scope
> > > Path of full moon - junk
> > > Pleiades - Problematic. Square artifacts around bright stars. Ugly.
> > > Saturn - outstanding
> > > Startrails over city - boring
> > > Star watcher - boring, trailed car lights, snore.
> > > Sunrise of the magic city - abstract junk
> > > Comet 2020F8 - terrific!
> > > The Soul of Space - not bad, but too much detail smoothing, looks plasticky
> > I agree with all your comments about this. Especially the Jodrell Bank photo. A fiend of mine has taken lots of better Jodrell Bank images.
> We're into a situation now where people are kind of loafing along in astronomy imaging, some of them anyway. The landscape/starfield shots have been done to death
> on conventional photo groups and widefield shots seem to be the order of the day. One company even sells a lens with a tiny 45mm aperture. There have always been wide-angle shots,
> but now they predominate thanks the advent of fast apochromatic refractors with short focal lengths. I prefer up-close shots of celestial objects like galaxies, clusters, planets, nebulae.
> What does surprise me a bit are some of the aurora shots. With high-powered 35mm and medium format sensors today with low noise levels, plus the most fantastic noise reduction software
> ever, I don't get why they don't boost the ISO's and try to capture aurora FASTER, before all the detail is washed-away by the motion of the aurora.

I suspect that quite soon phone cameras will outdo SLRs. I was surprised when I tried to use m iPhone 12 to take a moonlight landscape shot not far from where I live. This was the result for a hand held night mode image.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/dWZf2ZVpTY2nLYPW8
I couldn’t see any colour with the naked eye. I had to apply a filter to the image to get something which looked like the naked eye view.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/4oRJj9QP4z14GStX7
I suspect hat in five years time phones will be able to take the kind of aurora images you’re suggesting.

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Subject: Re: Astronomy Photographer of the Year 2021:
From: rander3...@gmail.com (RichA)
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 by: RichA - Thu, 15 Jul 2021 02:30 UTC

On Saturday, 10 July 2021 at 18:09:48 UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
> On Friday, 9 July 2021 at 23:09:16 UTC+1, RichA wrote:
> > On Friday, 9 July 2021 at 05:20:37 UTC-4, Mike Collins wrote:
> > > On Friday, 9 July 2021 at 03:33:29 UTC+1, RichA wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday, 7 July 2021 at 03:47:40 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
> > > > > https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-57653901
> > > > >
> > > > > I like them all!
> > > > Veil - great
> > > > Aurora - ok
> > > > Dolphin Head - great
> > > > Harmony - boring (star landscapes, done to death)
> > > > Iceland Vortex - ok (lots of aurora shots lack any textural detail)
> > > > Luna Park - junk
> > > > Moonrise Jodrell - too flat
> > > > NGC-2024 - good detail, diffraction spikes a bit distracting
> > > > NGC-3981 - great shot, but done on huge expensive scope
> > > > Path of full moon - junk
> > > > Pleiades - Problematic. Square artifacts around bright stars. Ugly.
> > > > Saturn - outstanding
> > > > Startrails over city - boring
> > > > Star watcher - boring, trailed car lights, snore.
> > > > Sunrise of the magic city - abstract junk
> > > > Comet 2020F8 - terrific!
> > > > The Soul of Space - not bad, but too much detail smoothing, looks plasticky
> > > I agree with all your comments about this. Especially the Jodrell Bank photo. A fiend of mine has taken lots of better Jodrell Bank images.
> > We're into a situation now where people are kind of loafing along in astronomy imaging, some of them anyway. The landscape/starfield shots have been done to death
> > on conventional photo groups and widefield shots seem to be the order of the day. One company even sells a lens with a tiny 45mm aperture. There have always been wide-angle shots,
> > but now they predominate thanks the advent of fast apochromatic refractors with short focal lengths. I prefer up-close shots of celestial objects like galaxies, clusters, planets, nebulae.
> > What does surprise me a bit are some of the aurora shots. With high-powered 35mm and medium format sensors today with low noise levels, plus the most fantastic noise reduction software
> > ever, I don't get why they don't boost the ISO's and try to capture aurora FASTER, before all the detail is washed-away by the motion of the aurora.
> I suspect that quite soon phone cameras will outdo SLRs. I was surprised when I tried to use m iPhone 12 to take a moonlight landscape shot not far from where I live. This was the result for a hand held night mode image.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/dWZf2ZVpTY2nLYPW8
> I couldn’t see any colour with the naked eye. I had to apply a filter to the image to get something which looked like the naked eye view.
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/4oRJj9QP4z14GStX7
> I suspect hat in five years time phones will be able to take the kind of aurora images you’re suggesting.

Most aurora I've seen is green tinged with red. However, I once saw a radiate start as a point directly above and turn into spikes that went all the way down to the horizon on all sides. It was pure white. I've never
seen anything like it since. I wish at the time I'd have a camera that could have captured it.

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