zelos...@gmail.com schrieb am Dienstag, 1. Juni 2021 um 07:41:33 UTC+2:
> måndag 31 maj 2021 kl. 14:24:39 UTC+2 skrev WM:
> > zelos...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 31. Mai 2021 um 06:54:33 UTC+2:
> > > torsdag 27 maj 2021 kl. 15:32:29 UTC+2 skrev WM:
> >
> > > > Limit theory has been made by people who were right in finding the limit but unable to explain why the limit follows immeditely upon all terms although no immediately follows term can be identified.
> > > for fuck sake there is no last part in a sequence or series! Stop asking for it!
> > There is a last part, but it is dark. Otherwise Achilles life line would be interrupted.

> there is no last because that is what INFINITE means, NO END!

But Achilles comes to te end (of his losing frames). And even if no last is existing, he remembers the last 10000 frames he has passed consciously. Do you agree that he remembers the last 1000 frames he remembers? Their indices are very small compared to omega. And between them and omega there exist more frames.

Regards, WM

On 5/31/2021 7:24 AM, WM wrote:
> zelos...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 31. Mai 2021 um 06:54:33 UTC+2:
>> torsdag 27 maj 2021 kl. 15:32:29 UTC+2 skrev WM:
>
>>> Limit theory has been made by people who were right in finding the limit but unable to explain why the limit follows immeditely upon all terms although no immediately follows term can be identified.
>
>> for fuck sake there is no last part in a sequence or series! Stop asking for it!
>
> There is a last part, but it is dark. Otherwise Achilles life line would be interrupted.
>
> Regards, WM
>

Poor Achilles, now dead.

Lifeline interrupted. Frames askew. Sunglasses lost.

All because he ran into WM's imaginary Dark Numbers glob

That !@#*&@ Turtle won!

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 6:22:18 PM UTC+2, Sergio wrote:

> All because he ran into WM's imaginary Dark Numbers glob

Bad luck!

tisdag 1 juni 2021 kl. 15:18:33 UTC+2 skrev WM:
> zelos...@gmail.com schrieb am Dienstag, 1. Juni 2021 um 07:41:33 UTC+2:
> > måndag 31 maj 2021 kl. 14:24:39 UTC+2 skrev WM:
> > > zelos...@gmail.com schrieb am Montag, 31. Mai 2021 um 06:54:33 UTC+2:
> > > > torsdag 27 maj 2021 kl. 15:32:29 UTC+2 skrev WM:
> > >
> > > > > Limit theory has been made by people who were right in finding the limit but unable to explain why the limit follows immeditely upon all terms although no immediately follows term can be identified.
> > > > for fuck sake there is no last part in a sequence or series! Stop asking for it!
> > > There is a last part, but it is dark. Otherwise Achilles life line would be interrupted.
> > there is no last because that is what INFINITE means, NO END!
> But Achilles comes to te end (of his losing frames). And even if no last is existing, he remembers the last 10000 frames he has passed consciously. Do you agree that he remembers the last 1000 frames he remembers? Their indices are very small compared to omega. And between them and omega there exist more frames.
>
> Regards, WM
There is no last one due to it being INFINITE! Just get over it already!

zelos...@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2021 um 06:34:47 UTC+2:
> tisdag 1 juni 2021 kl. 15:18:33 UTC+2 skrev WM:
> > And even if no last is existing, he remembers the last 10000 frames he has passed consciously. Do you agree that he remembers the last 1000 frames he remembers? Their indices are very small compared to omega. And between them and omega there exist more frames.

> There is no last one due to it being INFINITE! Just get over it already!

There is a last one in the memory of Achilles.

Regards, WM

onsdag 2 juni 2021 kl. 09:38:27 UTC+2 skrev WM:
> zelos...@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2021 um 06:34:47 UTC+2:
> > tisdag 1 juni 2021 kl. 15:18:33 UTC+2 skrev WM:
> > > And even if no last is existing, he remembers the last 10000 frames he has passed consciously. Do you agree that he remembers the last 1000 frames he remembers? Their indices are very small compared to omega. And between them and omega there exist more frames.
> > There is no last one due to it being INFINITE! Just get over it already!
> There is a last one in the memory of Achilles.
>
> Regards, WM

There isn't, you just make it up that there is and decide it is. There is nothing saying there ever would be

zelos...@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2021 um 13:02:30 UTC+2:
> onsdag 2 juni 2021 kl. 09:38:27 UTC+2 skrev WM:
> > zelos...@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2021 um 06:34:47 UTC+2:
> > > tisdag 1 juni 2021 kl. 15:18:33 UTC+2 skrev WM:
> > > > And even if no last is existing, he remembers the last 10000 frames he has passed consciously. Do you agree that he remembers the last 1000 frames he remembers? Their indices are very small compared to omega. And between them and omega there exist more frames.
> > > There is no last one due to it being INFINITE! Just get over it already!
> > There is a last one in the memory of Achilles.

> There isn't, you just make it up that there is and decide it is. There is nothing saying there ever would be

If all entries are accessible and well-ordered, then he can find the last one before omega. He has experienced the transition to omega. There must be the last finite one he can remember.

Regards, WM

onsdag 2 juni 2021 kl. 14:29:40 UTC+2 skrev WM:
> zelos...@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2021 um 13:02:30 UTC+2:
> > onsdag 2 juni 2021 kl. 09:38:27 UTC+2 skrev WM:
> > > zelos...@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2021 um 06:34:47 UTC+2:
> > > > tisdag 1 juni 2021 kl. 15:18:33 UTC+2 skrev WM:
> > > > > And even if no last is existing, he remembers the last 10000 frames he has passed consciously. Do you agree that he remembers the last 1000 frames he remembers? Their indices are very small compared to omega. And between them and omega there exist more frames.
> > > > There is no last one due to it being INFINITE! Just get over it already!
> > > There is a last one in the memory of Achilles.
> > There isn't, you just make it up that there is and decide it is. There is nothing saying there ever would be
> If all entries are accessible and well-ordered, then he can find the last one before omega. He has experienced the transition to omega. There must be the last finite one he can remember.
>
> Regards, WM

There doesn't need to be because you assume it is finite by saying there is a last. Stop this idiocy already

On 6/2/2021 2:38 AM, WM wrote:
> zelos...@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2021 um 06:34:47 UTC+2:
>> tisdag 1 juni 2021 kl. 15:18:33 UTC+2 skrev WM:
>>> And even if no last is existing, he remembers the last 10000 frames he has passed consciously. Do you agree that he remembers the last 1000 frames he remembers? Their indices are very small compared to omega. And between them and omega there exist more frames.
>
>> There is no last one due to it being INFINITE! Just get over it already!
>
> There is a last one in the memory of Achilles.

so you rely on your asumption of the vastly limited memory of a
fictional construct.

there is no last one, there are no dark numbers

>
> Regards, WM
>

"The vast majority of present mathematics is nonsense." -WM

On 6/2/2021 7:29 AM, WM wrote:
> zelos...@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2021 um 13:02:30 UTC+2:
>> onsdag 2 juni 2021 kl. 09:38:27 UTC+2 skrev WM:
>>> zelos...@gmail.com schrieb am Mittwoch, 2. Juni 2021 um 06:34:47 UTC+2:
>>>> tisdag 1 juni 2021 kl. 15:18:33 UTC+2 skrev WM:
>>>>> And even if no last is existing, he remembers the last 10000 frames he has passed consciously. Do you agree that he remembers the last 1000 frames he remembers? Their indices are very small compared to omega. And between them and omega there exist more frames.
>>>> There is no last one due to it being INFINITE! Just get over it already!
>>> There is a last one in the memory of Achilles.
>
>> There isn't, you just make it up that there is and decide it is. There is nothing saying there ever would be
>
> If all entries are accessible and well-ordered, then he can find the last one before omega.

there is no last one.

> He has experienced the transition to omega. There must be the last finite one he can remember.

not at all.

on the real line, between any two numbers, there is an infinity of numbers

>
> Regards, WM
>

"The vast majority of present mathematics is nonsense." -WM

On 5/31/2021 7:40 AM, WM wrote:
> Greg Cunt schrieb am Montag, 31. Mai 2021 um 02:07:14 UTC+2:
>> On Saturday, May 29, 2021 at 10:50:41 PM UTC+2, WM wrote:
>>
>>> Set theorists are inconsistent. They claim that there is no last number, but nevertheless omega can be reached.
>> Where do set theorist claim that (that "omega can be reached")?
>
> Frage doch nicht so dumm und scheinheilig. Das weißt Du doch.
>>
>> Can you provide a proof for your claim (e.i. can you quote some text book)?
>
> Dies sind die ersten transfiniten Zahlen Cantors, die Zahlen der
> zweiten Zahlklasse, wie sie Cantor nennt. Zu ihnen gelangen wir also
> einfach durch ein Hinüberzahlen über das gewöhnliche abzählbare
> Unendlich, d. h. durch eine ganz naturgemäße und eindeutig bestimmte,
> konsequente Fortsetzung des gewöhnlichen Zählens im Endlichen. [D.
> Hilbert: "Über das Unendliche" (1925)]
>
> Hilbert startet also nicht neu bei omega, sondern zählt darüber hinweg, bis zu und dann weiter.
>
> From the set A to be well-ordered take by arbitrary choice an element and denote it as a0, then from the set A \ {a0} an element a1, then an element from the set A \ {a0, a1} and so on. If the set {a0, a1, a2, ...} is not yet the complete set A, we can choose from A \ {a0, a1, a2, ...} an element a, then an element a+1, and so on. This procedure must come to an end
>
> This method is unfeasible because of two reasons. Firstly, the method would supply a way to obtain a definable well-ordering of the real numbers which is known to be impossible, and secondly, the first ordinals are the natural numbers which cannot be exhausted in a step-by-step procedure without violating Peano's successor axiom.
>
> Nevertheless there are some contemporary logicians who persist to endorse this method. In MathOverflow, answering the question [Wilhelm: "Endorsers of the method of well-ordering reported by Hausdorff?", MathOverflow (11 Mar 2018)] Emil Jeřábek counterfactually claimed: "This does not violate any Peano axioms. It is a perfectly valid and commonly used construction. [...] Peano axioms are axioms of natural numbers. The sequence here is not indexed by natural numbers, but by ordinals, so Peano axioms are irrelevant." And Joel David Hamkins boasted: "I endorse this method."
>
> Cast in the same mould, Cohen suggests "we repeat this process countably many times" (cp. section 3.4.3). And Hrbacek and Jech ponder, in order to increase the cardinality of a model, "if this procedure is iterated ℵ2 times" (cp. section 2.18.3).
>
> Gruß, WM
>
>

"The vast majority of present mathematics is nonsense." -WM

On 5/31/2021 3:46 PM, WM wrote:
> Greg Cunt schrieb am Montag, 31. Mai 2021 um 17:09:34 UTC+2:
>>> Hilbert startet also nicht neu bei omega
>> Well, though Hilbert wasn't a /set theorist/,
>
> At least he has strongly supported this nonsense. This will forever be a stain on his mathematical reputation.
>
> Regards, WM
>

You are a stain on your mathematical reputation, which is pre-Algebra.

"The vast majority of present mathematics is nonsense." -WM