at high speeds there is an appearance that
space contracts because of time slow...
A space ship fast enough would see that
appearance manifest...

Mitchell Raemsch

On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 1:27:33 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> at high speeds there is an appearance that
> space contracts because of time slow...
> A space ship fast enough would see that
> appearance manifest...
>
> Mitchell Raemsch
There is no such a thing as...."space contracts or ....space dilates"!
The same applies to time!
How do we know that? Well, relativity theory is a one way street , that is, it corresponds
to a description of events and things from one reference frame at a time only.
That means, when one observer refers to time or coordinates/length FROM another inertial frame
........the values he refers to.....are valid for HIM/HER ONLY. They have NO useful MEANING for the observer in
the other inertial reference frame. That particular, SECOND, observer has HIS/HER own set of values for the same
parameters, a set completely different from the values measured by the observer in the first frame.
ALL the contradictory discussions on this subject are the results of this unfortunate misunderstanding !
It is sad, that it is very very hard to adjust to a different way of seeing things !
I have submitted the analysis leading to the above ideas to a scientific forum some years back...
without any echo on it.(Gravity Research Foundation, in Canada, a foundation that offers a prize every year for
research papers on gravity, to honour a reputable Canadian scientist who himself doubted the official theory
on gravitation and developed other ways to address it.}
Well, ...there are of course other examples too of a lack of clear thinking in physics......Cerenkov had to wait 34 years (as I can recall)
until he was vindicated,.... and the list does not stop here.
Regards, LL

On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 5:51:28 PM UTC-4, xray4abc wrote:

> There is no such a thing as...."space contracts or ....space dilates"!

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On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 2:51:28 PM UTC-7, xray4abc wrote:
> On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 1:27:33 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > at high speeds there is an appearance that
> > space contracts because of time slow...
> > A space ship fast enough would see that
> > appearance manifest...
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> There is no such a thing as...."space contracts or ....space dilates"!
> The same applies to time!
> How do we know that? Well, relativity theory is a one way street , that is, it corresponds
> to a description of events and things from one reference frame at a time only.
> That means, when one observer refers to time or coordinates/length FROM another inertial frame
> .......the values he refers to.....are valid for HIM/HER ONLY. They have NO useful MEANING for the observer in
> the other inertial reference frame. That particular, SECOND, observer has HIS/HER own set of values for the same
> parameters, a set completely different from the values measured by the observer in the first frame.
> ALL the contradictory discussions on this subject are the results of this unfortunate misunderstanding !
> It is sad, that it is very very hard to adjust to a different way of seeing things !
> I have submitted the analysis leading to the above ideas to a scientific forum some years back...
> without any echo on it.(Gravity Research Foundation, in Canada, a foundation that offers a prize every year for
> research papers on gravity, to honour a reputable Canadian scientist who himself doubted the official theory
> on gravitation and developed other ways to address it.}
> Well, ...there are of course other examples too of a lack of clear thinking in physics......Cerenkov had to wait 34 years (as I can recall)
> until he was vindicated,.... and the list does not stop here.
> Regards, LL

Some would argue that space actually does contract, while time does only slow,
that spaces contracts and also relaxes, and that clocks that meet share the time.

It suffices for Lorentz an Einstein-Fitzgerald space contraction.

That Einstein wrote the gravity tensor, there's something to be said for
any alternative foundation what arrives at the same thing.

That c_g is no less than c and that according to solar experiment
and as so confirmed, gravity's force vector always points at the
source not the image: makes for that space not length contracts,
and that time only slows.

Parity is quite well held up then for supergravity, which is a usual
notion that makes for a fall gravity and field and force unification.

On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 12:10:25 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 2:51:28 PM UTC-7, xray4abc wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 1:27:33 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > at high speeds there is an appearance that
> > > space contracts because of time slow...
> > > A space ship fast enough would see that
> > > appearance manifest...
> > >
> > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > There is no such a thing as...."space contracts or ....space dilates"!
> > The same applies to time!
> > How do we know that? Well, relativity theory is a one way street , that is, it corresponds
> > to a description of events and things from one reference frame at a time only.
> > That means, when one observer refers to time or coordinates/length FROM another inertial frame
> > .......the values he refers to.....are valid for HIM/HER ONLY. They have NO useful MEANING for the observer in
> > the other inertial reference frame. That particular, SECOND, observer has HIS/HER own set of values for the same
> > parameters, a set completely different from the values measured by the observer in the first frame.
> > ALL the contradictory discussions on this subject are the results of this unfortunate misunderstanding !
> > It is sad, that it is very very hard to adjust to a different way of seeing things !
> > I have submitted the analysis leading to the above ideas to a scientific forum some years back...
> > without any echo on it.(Gravity Research Foundation, in Canada, a foundation that offers a prize every year for
> > research papers on gravity, to honour a reputable Canadian scientist who himself doubted the official theory
> > on gravitation and developed other ways to address it.}
> > Well, ...there are of course other examples too of a lack of clear thinking in physics......Cerenkov had to wait 34 years (as I can recall)
> > until he was vindicated,.... and the list does not stop here.
> > Regards, LL
> Some would argue that space actually does contract, while time does only slow,

What would contract distance that is being moved in?
Where does it go to?
If that was in the universe you would get a lopsided
universe and even and atom...

Mitchell Raemsch

On Sunday, June 27, 2021 at 12:10:25 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 2:51:28 PM UTC-7, xray4abc wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 26, 2021 at 1:27:33 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > at high speeds there is an appearance that
> > > space contracts because of time slow...
> > > A space ship fast enough would see that
> > > appearance manifest...
> > >
> > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > There is no such a thing as...."space contracts or ....space dilates"!
> > The same applies to time!
> > How do we know that? Well, relativity theory is a one way street , that is, it corresponds
> > to a description of events and things from one reference frame at a time only.
> > That means, when one observer refers to time or coordinates/length FROM another inertial frame
> > .......the values he refers to.....are valid for HIM/HER ONLY. They have NO useful MEANING for the observer in
> > the other inertial reference frame. That particular, SECOND, observer has HIS/HER own set of values for the same
> > parameters, a set completely different from the values measured by the observer in the first frame.
> > ALL the contradictory discussions on this subject are the results of this unfortunate misunderstanding !
> > It is sad, that it is very very hard to adjust to a different way of seeing things !
> > I have submitted the analysis leading to the above ideas to a scientific forum some years back...
> > without any echo on it.(Gravity Research Foundation, in Canada, a foundation that offers a prize every year for
> > research papers on gravity, to honour a reputable Canadian scientist who himself doubted the official theory
> > on gravitation and developed other ways to address it.}
> > Well, ...there are of course other examples too of a lack of clear thinking in physics......Cerenkov had to wait 34 years (as I can recall)
> > until he was vindicated,.... and the list does not stop here.
> > Regards, LL
> Some would argue that space actually does contract, while time does only slow,
> that spaces contracts and also relaxes, and that clocks that meet share the time.
>
> It suffices for Lorentz an Einstein-Fitzgerald space contraction.
>
> That Einstein wrote the gravity tensor, there's something to be said for
> any alternative foundation what arrives at the same thing.
>
> That c_g is no less than c and that according to solar experiment
> and as so confirmed, gravity's force vector always points at the
> source not the image: makes for that space not length contracts,
> and that time only slows.
>
> Parity is quite well held up then for supergravity, which is a usual
> notion that makes for a fall gravity and field and force unification.

Concise