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* The Root of All the Evil in PhysicsPentcho Valev
+- Re: The Root of All the Evil in PhysicsBuck Espinal
+- Re: The Root of All the Evil in Physicsmitchr...@gmail.com
+* Re: The Root of All the Evil in PhysicsTom Roberts
|+- Re: The Root of All the Evil in PhysicsMaciej Wozniak
|`* Re: The Root of All the Evil in PhysicsJanPB
| `- Re: The Root of All the Evil in PhysicsLwane Houser
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|`- Re: The Root of All the Evil in PhysicsYoung Wharton
+- Re: The Root of All the Evil in PhysicsThomas Heger
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Subject: The Root of All the Evil in Physics
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 by: Pentcho Valev - Sat, 3 Jul 2021 13:12 UTC

The root of all the evil in physics is Einstein's constant-speed-of-light nonsense. Any theoretical physicist knows that. Some start telling the truth occasionally but then stop halfway. Modern physics is predicated on the nonsense and will collapse without it. In this regard, telling the truth is suicidal:

"Lee [Smolin] and I discussed these paradoxes at great length for many months, starting in January 2001. We would meet in cafés in South Kensington or Holland Park to mull over the problem. THE ROOT OF ALL THE EVIL WAS CLEARLY SPECIAL RELATIVITY. All these paradoxes resulted from well known effects such as length contraction, time dilation, or E=mc^2, all basic predictions of special relativity. And all denied the possibility of establishing a well-defined border, common to all observers, capable of containing new quantum gravitational effects." Joao Magueijo, Faster Than the Speed of Light, p. 250 http://www.amazon.com/Faster-Than-Speed-Light-Speculation/dp/0738205257

"...Dr. Magueijo said. "We need to drop a postulate, perhaps the constancy of the speed of light." http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/31/science/e-and-mc2-equality-it-seems-is-relative.html

"He opened by explaining how Einstein's theory of relativity is the foundation of every other theory in modern physics and that the assumption that the speed of light is constant is the foundation of that theory. Thus a constant speed of light is embedded in all of modern physics and to propose a varying speed of light (VSL) is worse than swearing! It is like proposing a language without vowels." http://www.thegreatdebate.org.uk/VSLRevPrnt.html

"The whole of physics is predicated on the constancy of the speed of light," Joao Magueijo, a cosmologist at Imperial College London and pioneer of the theory of variable light speed, told Motherboard. "So we had to find ways to change the speed of light without wrecking the whole thing too much." https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/8q87gk/light-speed-slowed

See more here: https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev

Pentcho Valev

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 by: Buck Espinal - Sat, 3 Jul 2021 19:18 UTC

Pentcho Valev wrote:

> The root of all the evil in physics is Einstein's
> constant-speed-of-light nonsense. Any theoretical physicist knows that.
> Some start telling the truth occasionally but then stop halfway. Modern
> physics is predicated on the nonsense and will collapse without it. In
> this regard, telling the truth is suicidal:
> "Lee [Smolin] and I discussed these paradoxes at great length for many

Not entirely true. Atoms cannot produce FTL tachyons, hence the constancy
of the speed of light becomes irrelevant. You have to come up with
something FTL without causality violation.

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Light has its own motion but so does the atom...
If a gravity source moves so how can it propagate
while moving?

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: Tom Roberts - Sat, 3 Jul 2021 22:57 UTC

On 7/3/21 8:12 AM, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> [...]

A major source of evil in the world is people like Valev who just make
stuff up and pretend it is true. Essentially everything he says is
wrong. But it's useless to point out his fantasies and errors, as he
refuses any discussion.

Hint: the videos and webpages he references all ASSUME
what he is trying to prove. That's useless.

Tom Roberts

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Sun, 4 Jul 2021 06:06 UTC

On Sunday, 4 July 2021 at 00:58:00 UTC+2, tjrob137 wrote:
> On 7/3/21 8:12 AM, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> > [...]
>
> A major source of evil in the world is people like Valev who just make
> stuff up and pretend it is true.

You're doing nothing else, poor "we're FORCED to THE
BEST WAY!!!!" idiot.

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On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 3:58:00 PM UTC-7, tjrob137 wrote:
> On 7/3/21 8:12 AM, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> > [...]
>
> A major source of evil in the world is people like Valev who just make
> stuff up and pretend it is true.

Pentcho is a classic illustration of Jungian projection.

--
Jan

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 by: Lwane Houser - Sun, 11 Jul 2021 07:02 UTC

JanPB wrote:

> On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 3:58:00 PM UTC-7, tjrob137 wrote:
>> On 7/3/21 8:12 AM, Pentcho Valev wrote:
>> > [...]
>>
>> A major source of evil in the world is people like Valev who just make
>> stuff up and pretend it is true.
>
> Pentcho is a classic illustration of Jungian projection.

or you don't understand, not relate, to what is been said by Dr. Pentcho
Valev PhD.

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 02:27 UTC

On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 6:12:31 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> The root of all the evil in physics is Einstein's constant-speed-of-light nonsense. Any theoretical physicist knows that. Some start telling the truth occasionally but then stop halfway. Modern physics is predicated on the nonsense and will collapse without it. In this regard, telling the truth is suicidal:
>
> "Lee [Smolin] and I discussed these paradoxes at great length for many months, starting in January 2001. We would meet in cafés in South Kensington or Holland Park to mull over the problem. THE ROOT OF ALL THE EVIL WAS CLEARLY SPECIAL RELATIVITY. All these paradoxes resulted from well known effects such as length contraction, time dilation, or E=mc^2, all basic predictions of special relativity. And all denied the possibility of establishing a well-defined border, common to all observers, capable of containing new quantum gravitational effects." Joao Magueijo, Faster Than the Speed of Light, p. 250 http://www.amazon.com/Faster-Than-Speed-Light-Speculation/dp/0738205257
>
> "...Dr. Magueijo said. "We need to drop a postulate, perhaps the constancy of the speed of light." http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/31/science/e-and-mc2-equality-it-seems-is-relative.html
>
> "He opened by explaining how Einstein's theory of relativity is the foundation of every other theory in modern physics and that the assumption that the speed of light is constant is the foundation of that theory. Thus a constant speed of light is embedded in all of modern physics and to propose a varying speed of light (VSL) is worse than swearing! It is like proposing a language without vowels." http://www.thegreatdebate.org.uk/VSLRevPrnt.html
>
> "The whole of physics is predicated on the constancy of the speed of light," Joao Magueijo, a cosmologist at Imperial College London and pioneer of the theory of variable light speed, told Motherboard. "So we had to find ways to change the speed of light without wrecking the whole thing too much." https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/8q87gk/light-speed-slowed
>
> See more here: https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev
>
> Pentcho Valev

You can move toward or away from light.
If it has a constant motion it is the same speed
across the universe.

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 by: Young Wharton - Wed, 14 Jul 2021 19:23 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

>> See more here: https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev Pentcho Valev
>
> You can move toward or away from light.
> If it has a constant motion it is the same speed across the universe.

you come here often?

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Subject: Re: The Root of All the Evil in Physics
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 by: Thomas Heger - Fri, 16 Jul 2021 20:18 UTC

Am 03.07.2021 um 15:12 schrieb Pentcho Valev:
> The root of all the evil in physics is Einstein's constant-speed-of-light nonsense. Any theoretical physicist knows that. Some start telling the truth occasionally but then stop halfway. Modern physics is predicated on the nonsense and will collapse without it. In this regard, telling the truth is suicidal:
>
> "Lee [Smolin] and I discussed these paradoxes at great length for many months, starting in January 2001. We would meet in cafés in South Kensington or Holland Park to mull over the problem. THE ROOT OF ALL THE EVIL WAS CLEARLY SPECIAL RELATIVITY. All these paradoxes resulted from well known effects such as length contraction, time dilation, or E=mc^2, all basic predictions of special relativity. And all denied the possibility of establishing a well-defined border, common to all observers, capable of containing new quantum gravitational effects." Joao Magueijo, Faster Than the Speed of Light, p. 250 http://www.amazon.com/Faster-Than-Speed-Light-Speculation/dp/0738205257
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> "...Dr. Magueijo said. "We need to drop a postulate, perhaps the constancy of the speed of light." http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/31/science/e-and-mc2-equality-it-seems-is-relative.html
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> "He opened by explaining how Einstein's theory of relativity is the foundation of every other theory in modern physics and that the assumption that the speed of light is constant is the foundation of that theory. Thus a constant speed of light is embedded in all of modern physics and to propose a varying speed of light (VSL) is worse than swearing! It is like proposing a language without vowels." http://www.thegreatdebate.org.uk/VSLRevPrnt.html
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> "The whole of physics is predicated on the constancy of the speed of light," Joao Magueijo, a cosmologist at Imperial College London and pioneer of the theory of variable light speed, told Motherboard. "So we had to find ways to change the speed of light without wrecking the whole thing too much." https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/8q87gk/light-speed-slowed

I have no problem with that postulate.

But I have also no problem with velocities greater than c.

I personaly solve it with a common spacetime diagram, which I interpret
as a variant of the Argand diagram.

C is there a certain angle, which is usually depicted as 45°.

No problem to define 45° for any local axis of time. And also no problem
to assume, that light behaves this way.

But if the axis of time is altered, the light from one FoR cannot be
light anymore in the other one.

I assume, that light in one system is matter in a system, where the axis
of time has an angle of 45° towards the former one.

The idea is a little unusual, but in case of interest I would recommend
to have a look at my 'book':

https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6

TH

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 18:18 UTC

On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 6:12:31 AM UTC-7, Pentcho Valev wrote:
> The root of all the evil in physics is Einstein's constant-speed-of-light nonsense. Any theoretical physicist knows that. Some start telling the truth occasionally but then stop halfway. Modern physics is predicated on the nonsense and will collapse without it. In this regard, telling the truth is suicidal:
>
> "Lee [Smolin] and I discussed these paradoxes at great length for many months, starting in January 2001. We would meet in cafés in South Kensington or Holland Park to mull over the problem. THE ROOT OF ALL THE EVIL WAS CLEARLY SPECIAL RELATIVITY. All these paradoxes resulted from well known effects such as length contraction, time dilation, or E=mc^2, all basic predictions of special relativity. And all denied the possibility of establishing a well-defined border, common to all observers, capable of containing new quantum gravitational effects." Joao Magueijo, Faster Than the Speed of Light, p. 250 http://www.amazon.com/Faster-Than-Speed-Light-Speculation/dp/0738205257
>
> "...Dr. Magueijo said. "We need to drop a postulate, perhaps the constancy of the speed of light." http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/31/science/e-and-mc2-equality-it-seems-is-relative.html
>
> "He opened by explaining how Einstein's theory of relativity is the foundation of every other theory in modern physics and that the assumption that the speed of light is constant is the foundation of that theory. Thus a constant speed of light is embedded in all of modern physics and to propose a varying speed of light (VSL) is worse than swearing! It is like proposing a language without vowels." http://www.thegreatdebate.org.uk/VSLRevPrnt.html
>
> "The whole of physics is predicated on the constancy of the speed of light," Joao Magueijo, a cosmologist at Imperial College London and pioneer of the theory of variable light speed, told Motherboard. "So we had to find ways to change the speed of light without wrecking the whole thing too much." https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/8q87gk/light-speed-slowed
>
> See more here: https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev
>
> Pentcho Valev

How are you going to prove light science is evil?
My God is light. He creates gravity...

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: Bud W Thacker - Sun, 18 Jul 2021 11:10 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

>> https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/8q87gk/light-speed-slowed
>> See more here: https://twitter.com/pentcho_valev Pentcho Valev
>
> How are you going to prove light science is evil?
> My God is light. He creates gravity...

That's sound Luciferian, which is exactly the opposite. Think, before you
post.

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