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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Thu, 8 Jul 2021 21:34 UTC

because of more gravity inside the horizon it would
become a tachyon form and would need to
have negative contraction. There is nothing
below flat...

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Sun, 11 Jul 2021 01:21 UTC

On Thursday, July 8, 2021 at 2:34:41 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> because of more gravity inside the horizon it would
> become a tachyon form and would need to
> have negative contraction. There is nothing
> below flat...
>
> Mitchell Raemsch

At the event horizon time stops
and contraction ought to go all
of the way to a flat atom form.
What is beyond flat inside the
BH?

We know something about what is inside.
Energy fell in and there is more gravity
strength of acceleration inside...

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: Sylvia Else - Sun, 11 Jul 2021 01:26 UTC

On 09-Jul-21 7:34 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> because of more gravity inside the horizon it would
> become a tachyon form and would need to
> have negative contraction. There is nothing
> below flat...
>
> Mitchell Raemsch
>

A black hole is spherical. Why would the atom become flat?

Sylvia.

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 by: Michael Moroney - Sun, 11 Jul 2021 19:43 UTC

> On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 6:27:03 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 09-Jul-21 7:34 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> because of more gravity inside the horizon it would
>>> become a tachyon form and would need to
>>> have negative contraction. There is nothing
>>> below flat...
>>>
>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>
> Why would the atom become flat?
>> Sylvia.
>
Mitch has things exactly backwards. Tidal forces would stretch something
falling into a BH. Someone (Hawking?) called it "spaghettification".

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Mon, 12 Jul 2021 04:01 UTC

On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 12:43:28 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 6:27:03 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 09-Jul-21 7:34 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> because of more gravity inside the horizon it would
> >>> become a tachyon form and would need to
> >>> have negative contraction. There is nothing
> >>> below flat...
> >>>
> >>> Mitchell Raemsch
> >>>
> > Why would the atom become flat?
> >> Sylvia.
> >
> Mitch has things exactly backwards. Tidal forces would stretch something
> falling into a BH. Someone (Hawking?) called it "spaghettification".

What is the Sun's tidal force on the Moon?
If that doesn't happen Hawking is wrong.
Hawking was wrong... he couldn't explain that...

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Mon, 12 Jul 2021 04:04 UTC

On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 12:43:28 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 6:27:03 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 09-Jul-21 7:34 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> because of more gravity inside the horizon it would
> >>> become a tachyon form and would need to
> >>> have negative contraction. There is nothing
> >>> below flat...
> >>>
> >>> Mitchell Raemsch
> >>>
> > Why would the atom become flat?
> >> Sylvia.
> >
> Mitch has things exactly backwards.

How are you going to argue against the
very contraction you defend?
The speed of fall at a BH would contract
the atom all of the way.

Mitchell Raemsch

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 by: Michael Moroney - Mon, 12 Jul 2021 17:05 UTC

On 7/12/2021 12:01 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 12:43:28 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>> On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 6:27:03 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 09-Jul-21 7:34 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> because of more gravity inside the horizon it would
>>>>> become a tachyon form and would need to
>>>>> have negative contraction. There is nothing
>>>>> below flat...
>>>>>
>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>>>
>>> Why would the atom become flat?
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>> Mitch has things exactly backwards. Tidal forces would stretch something
>> falling into a BH. Someone (Hawking?) called it "spaghettification".
>
> What is the Sun's tidal force on the Moon?

About the same as the sun's tidal force on the earth.

> If that doesn't happen Hawking is wrong.

Newton figured the tides out, not Hawking.

> Hawking was wrong... he couldn't explain that...

Newton explained it just fine for weak gravity/low speed.

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 by: Michael Moroney - Mon, 12 Jul 2021 17:06 UTC

On 7/12/2021 12:04 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 12:43:28 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>> On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 6:27:03 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 09-Jul-21 7:34 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> because of more gravity inside the horizon it would
>>>>> become a tachyon form and would need to
>>>>> have negative contraction. There is nothing
>>>>> below flat...
>>>>>
>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>>>
>>> Why would the atom become flat?
>>>> Sylvia.
>>>
>> Mitch has things exactly backwards.
>
> How are you going to argue against the
> very contraction you defend?

Google how tides work. Oh that's right, you're afraid to.

> The speed of fall at a BH would contract
> the atom all of the way.

The opposite happens, which you'd know if you were smart enough to
google it.

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 by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Mon, 12 Jul 2021 17:26 UTC

On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 10:06:39 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 7/12/2021 12:04 AM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 12:43:28 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, July 10, 2021 at 6:27:03 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>>> On 09-Jul-21 7:34 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> because of more gravity inside the horizon it would
> >>>>> become a tachyon form and would need to
> >>>>> have negative contraction. There is nothing
> >>>>> below flat...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
> >>>>>
> >>> Why would the atom become flat?
> >>>> Sylvia.
> >>>
> >> Mitch has things exactly backwards.
> >
> > How are you going to argue against the
> > very contraction you defend?
> Google how tides work. Oh that's right, you're afraid to.

Then what is the Sun tide on the Moon?
Where is that?
If science can't answer the question it has nothing...

> > The speed of fall at a BH would contract
> > the atom all of the way.
> The opposite happens,

Less area means less surface evaporation.
BHs do not get bright by evaporation... as you suggest...

Mitchell Raemsch

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