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* $2 Billion damages per inch of GW sea level riseFred Bloggs
+* Re: $2 Billion damages per inch of GW sea level riseCydrome Leader
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|`* Re: $2 Billion damages per inch of GW sea level riseFred Bloggs
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|  +* Re: $2 Billion damages per inch of GW sea level riseRick C
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|  `- Re: $2 Billion damages per inch of GW sea level riseFred Bloggs
+- Re: $2 Billion damages per inch of GW sea level riseJohn Larkin
`* Re: $2 Billion damages per inch of GW sea level riseJohn Doe
 +- Re: $2 Billion damages per inch of GW sea level riseBill Sloman
 `* Re: $2 Billion damages per inch of GW sea level riseFred Bloggs
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Subject: $2 Billion damages per inch of GW sea level rise
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 by: Fred Bloggs - Tue, 18 May 2021 20:39 UTC

Study: Climate change added $8 billion to Sandy’s damages

https://apnews.com/article/climate-climate-change-science-environment-and-nature-a9df0907dd0c0a5fbe597468a3eebcec

They shouldn't even quote little numbers, like inches, in stories targeting the MASSES, that sort of downplays it to the idiots.

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 by: Cydrome Leader - Tue, 18 May 2021 23:08 UTC

Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
> Study: Climate change added $8 billion to Sandy???s damages
>
> https://apnews.com/article/climate-climate-change-science-environment-and-nature-a9df0907dd0c0a5fbe597468a3eebcec
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> They shouldn't even quote little numbers, like inches, in stories targeting the MASSES, that sort of downplays it to the idiots.

According to random numbers from unnamed "experts" at some alarmist
website?

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 by: John Larkin - Wed, 19 May 2021 00:45 UTC

On Tue, 18 May 2021 13:39:58 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>Study: Climate change added $8 billion to Sandy’s damages
>
>https://apnews.com/article/climate-climate-change-science-environment-and-nature-a9df0907dd0c0a5fbe597468a3eebcec
>
>They shouldn't even quote little numbers, like inches, in stories targeting the MASSES, that sort of downplays it to the idiots.

The real problem is cheap federal-funded flood insurance. It lets
people build expensive beach houses, and rebuild them.

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 by: John Doe - Wed, 19 May 2021 01:46 UTC

If the poster were a scientist, it wouldn't fall for idiotic single view
statistics. Even assuming the claim about damages is correct, climate change
causes positive effects too.

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 by: Bill Sloman - Wed, 19 May 2021 03:26 UTC

On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 9:08:11 AM UTC+10, Cydrome Leader wrote:
> Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Study: Climate change added $8 billion to Sandy???s damages
> >
> > https://apnews.com/article/climate-climate-change-science-environment-and-nature-a9df0907dd0c0a5fbe597468a3eebcec
> >
> > They shouldn't even quote little numbers, like inches, in stories targeting the MASSES, that sort of downplays it to the idiots.
>
> According to random numbers from unnamed "experts" at some alarmist
> website?

At least one of the experts involved in the study was named.

"study co-author Bob Kopp, director of Rutgers University’s Institute of Earth, Oceans and Atmospheric Sciences." Rutgers isn't quite an Ivy League College - they were private universities, and Rutgers had gone public before the League was set up, but they aren't going to host an alarmist web-site.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 11:46:15 AM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
> If the poster were a scientist, it wouldn't fall for idiotic single view statistics.

Academic studies from respectable universities don't rely on "idiotic single view statistics" whatever they might be/

> Even assuming the claim about damages is correct, climate change causes positive effects too.

John Larkin makes the same claim. It's based on stuff the gullible twit reads on climate change denial websites.

The problem is that there aren't all that many positive effects, and you mostly have to move to exploit them, abandoning loads of expensive infra-structure in the process.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Wed, 19 May 2021 12:16 UTC

On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 7:08:11 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
> Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Study: Climate change added $8 billion to Sandy???s damages
> >
> > https://apnews.com/article/climate-climate-change-science-environment-and-nature-a9df0907dd0c0a5fbe597468a3eebcec
> >
> > They shouldn't even quote little numbers, like inches, in stories targeting the MASSES, that sort of downplays it to the idiots.
> According to random numbers from unnamed "experts" at some alarmist
> website?

The story links to the publication of their study in Nature Communications here
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-22838-1
Dunno where you're getting alarmist website from.

I didn't know Stevens Institute of Technology, a hellhole dump in Hoboken, had an oceanography department. I hope they do better with oceanography than that sham engineering department joke there. Notice the way they say "of New Jersey" and not Hoboken, because Hoboken sounds too much like Skid Row. U.S. is full of sham so-called educational institutes that have evolved into pure taxpayer ripoffs.

If these idiots think we're going to spend $100 trillion to save Manhattan, they've got something coming. Let the place revert back to being a sandspit.

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Wed, 19 May 2021 12:20 UTC

On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 9:46:15 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
> If the poster were a scientist, it wouldn't fall for idiotic single view
> statistics. Even assuming the claim about damages is correct, climate change
> causes positive effects too.

Very true. I consider wiping the slate clean of residential development in what should be coastal wildlife habitat a positive effect.

I especially like the way the idiot morons build these big international airports in wetlands areas and then complain they have a bird strike hazard going in.

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On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 5:20:19 AM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:

> I especially like the way the idiot morons build these big international airports in wetlands areas and then complain they have a bird strike hazard going in.

Alas, we humans have traditionally located ourselves near bodies of water, and large concentrations
(cities) near large bodies of water, or junctions. Big airports don't require or benefit from
water resources, but they ARE placed near big cities. Exceptions include Washington Dulles International
Airport; have you ever heard of Reston?

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 by: Rick C - Wed, 19 May 2021 16:47 UTC

On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 12:26:31 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 5:20:19 AM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
>
> > I especially like the way the idiot morons build these big international airports in wetlands areas and then complain they have a bird strike hazard going in.
> Alas, we humans have traditionally located ourselves near bodies of water, and large concentrations
> (cities) near large bodies of water, or junctions. Big airports don't require or benefit from
> water resources, but they ARE placed near big cities. Exceptions include Washington Dulles International
> Airport; have you ever heard of Reston?

We're not dead, we're Reston!

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 by: Phil Hobbs - Wed, 19 May 2021 16:50 UTC

whit3rd wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 5:20:19 AM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
>
>> I especially like the way the idiot morons build these big international airports in wetlands areas and then complain they have a bird strike hazard going in.
>
> Alas, we humans have traditionally located ourselves near bodies of water, and large concentrations
> (cities) near large bodies of water, or junctions. Big airports don't require or benefit from
> water resources, but they ARE placed near big cities.

Sure they do. Whenever they want to expand JFK, they just dump some
more landfill into Jamaica Bay. Lots cheaper than buying up thousands
of houses.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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 by: Cydrome Leader - Wed, 19 May 2021 17:03 UTC

Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 7:08:11 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
>> Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Study: Climate change added $8 billion to Sandy???s damages
>> >
>> > https://apnews.com/article/climate-climate-change-science-environment-and-nature-a9df0907dd0c0a5fbe597468a3eebcec
>> >
>> > They shouldn't even quote little numbers, like inches, in stories targeting the MASSES, that sort of downplays it to the idiots.
>> According to random numbers from unnamed "experts" at some alarmist
>> website?
>
> The story links to the publication of their study in Nature Communications here
> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-22838-1
> Dunno where you're getting alarmist website from.

I know you can't read, but lookup who the authors are. It all goes back to
some retarded doom 'n gloom website with random number math. It's all
bullshit.

> I didn't know Stevens Institute of Technology, a hellhole dump in Hoboken, had an oceanography department. I hope they do better with oceanography than that sham engineering department joke there. Notice the way they say "of New Jersey" and not Hoboken, because Hoboken sounds too much like Skid Row. U.S. is full of sham so-called educational institutes that have evolved into pure taxpayer ripoffs.
>
> If these idiots think we're going to spend $100 trillion to save Manhattan, they've got something coming. Let the place revert back to being a sandspit.

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On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 1:03:23 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
> Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 7:08:11 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
> >> Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Study: Climate change added $8 billion to Sandy???s damages
> >> >
> >> > https://apnews.com/article/climate-climate-change-science-environment-and-nature-a9df0907dd0c0a5fbe597468a3eebcec
> >> >
> >> > They shouldn't even quote little numbers, like inches, in stories targeting the MASSES, that sort of downplays it to the idiots.
> >> According to random numbers from unnamed "experts" at some alarmist
> >> website?
> >
> > The story links to the publication of their study in Nature Communications here
> > https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-22838-1
> > Dunno where you're getting alarmist website from.
> I know you can't read, but lookup who the authors are. It all goes back to
> some retarded doom 'n gloom website with random number math. It's all
> bullshit.

I expect some of us know a lot more about bs than others, essentially having lots of first hand experience.

Any reason why you don't give a link to that web site and the names? i.e. show us the money!

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 by: Phil Hobbs - Wed, 19 May 2021 17:56 UTC

Rick C wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 12:26:31 PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
>> On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 5:20:19 AM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
>>
>>> I especially like the way the idiot morons build these big international airports in wetlands areas and then complain they have a bird strike hazard going in.
>> Alas, we humans have traditionally located ourselves near bodies of water, and large concentrations
>> (cities) near large bodies of water, or junctions. Big airports don't require or benefit from
>> water resources, but they ARE placed near big cities. Exceptions include Washington Dulles International
>> Airport; have you ever heard of Reston?
>
> We're not dead, we're Reston!
>

It was a bit of a close-run thing with that Ebola outbreak. Fortunately
it didn't cross over into humans.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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 by: Cydrome Leader - Wed, 19 May 2021 19:05 UTC

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 1:03:23 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
>> Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 7:08:11 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
>> >> Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Study: Climate change added $8 billion to Sandy???s damages
>> >> >
>> >> > https://apnews.com/article/climate-climate-change-science-environment-and-nature-a9df0907dd0c0a5fbe597468a3eebcec
>> >> >
>> >> > They shouldn't even quote little numbers, like inches, in stories targeting the MASSES, that sort of downplays it to the idiots.
>> >> According to random numbers from unnamed "experts" at some alarmist
>> >> website?
>> >
>> > The story links to the publication of their study in Nature Communications here
>> > https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-22838-1
>> > Dunno where you're getting alarmist website from.
>> I know you can't read, but lookup who the authors are. It all goes back to
>> some retarded doom 'n gloom website with random number math. It's all
>> bullshit.
>
> I expect some of us know a lot more about bs than others, essentially having lots of first hand experience.
>
> Any reason why you don't give a link to that web site and the names? i.e. show us the money!

You already posted the link. Move your mouse or trackball cursor over the
names of the authors. Write down the name of the organization that
appears. Now ask jeeves to find that website and take a look around.

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On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 3:05:31 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
> Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 1:03:23 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
> >> Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 7:08:11 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
> >> >> Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Study: Climate change added $8 billion to Sandy???s damages
> >> >> >
> >> >> > https://apnews.com/article/climate-climate-change-science-environment-and-nature-a9df0907dd0c0a5fbe597468a3eebcec
> >> >> >
> >> >> > They shouldn't even quote little numbers, like inches, in stories targeting the MASSES, that sort of downplays it to the idiots.
> >> >> According to random numbers from unnamed "experts" at some alarmist
> >> >> website?
> >> >
> >> > The story links to the publication of their study in Nature Communications here
> >> > https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-22838-1
> >> > Dunno where you're getting alarmist website from.
> >> I know you can't read, but lookup who the authors are. It all goes back to
> >> some retarded doom 'n gloom website with random number math. It's all
> >> bullshit.
> >
> > I expect some of us know a lot more about bs than others, essentially having lots of first hand experience.
> >
> > Any reason why you don't give a link to that web site and the names? i.e. show us the money!
> You already posted the link. Move your mouse or trackball cursor over the
> names of the authors. Write down the name of the organization that
> appears. Now ask jeeves to find that website and take a look around.

I suppose you mean this:
https://www.climatecentral.org/
Just because they're on mission to promote and publicize climate change research doesn't mean they're doctoring the data.

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Wed, 19 May 2021 19:24 UTC

On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 1:03:23 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
> Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 7:08:11 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
> >> Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Study: Climate change added $8 billion to Sandy???s damages
> >> >
> >> > https://apnews.com/article/climate-climate-change-science-environment-and-nature-a9df0907dd0c0a5fbe597468a3eebcec
> >> >
> >> > They shouldn't even quote little numbers, like inches, in stories targeting the MASSES, that sort of downplays it to the idiots.
> >> According to random numbers from unnamed "experts" at some alarmist
> >> website?
> >
> > The story links to the publication of their study in Nature Communications here
> > https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-22838-1
> > Dunno where you're getting alarmist website from.
> I know you can't read, but lookup who the authors are. It all goes back to
> some retarded doom 'n gloom website with random number math. It's all
> bullshit.
> > I didn't know Stevens Institute of Technology, a hellhole dump in Hoboken, had an oceanography department. I hope they do better with oceanography than that sham engineering department joke there. Notice the way they say "of New Jersey" and not Hoboken, because Hoboken sounds too much like Skid Row. U.S. is full of sham so-called educational institutes that have evolved into pure taxpayer ripoffs.
> >
> > If these idiots think we're going to spend $100 trillion to save Manhattan, they've got something coming. Let the place revert back to being a sandspit.

Looks like most of their funding comes from the government and the big philanthropies.
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Climate_Central#Funding

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 by: Rick C - Wed, 19 May 2021 19:27 UTC

On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 3:05:31 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
> Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 1:03:23 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
> >> Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 7:08:11 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
> >> >> Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Study: Climate change added $8 billion to Sandy???s damages
> >> >> >
> >> >> > https://apnews.com/article/climate-climate-change-science-environment-and-nature-a9df0907dd0c0a5fbe597468a3eebcec
> >> >> >
> >> >> > They shouldn't even quote little numbers, like inches, in stories targeting the MASSES, that sort of downplays it to the idiots.
> >> >> According to random numbers from unnamed "experts" at some alarmist
> >> >> website?
> >> >
> >> > The story links to the publication of their study in Nature Communications here
> >> > https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-22838-1
> >> > Dunno where you're getting alarmist website from.
> >> I know you can't read, but lookup who the authors are. It all goes back to
> >> some retarded doom 'n gloom website with random number math. It's all
> >> bullshit.
> >
> > I expect some of us know a lot more about bs than others, essentially having lots of first hand experience.
> >
> > Any reason why you don't give a link to that web site and the names? i.e. show us the money!
> You already posted the link. Move your mouse or trackball cursor over the
> names of the authors. Write down the name of the organization that
> appears. Now ask jeeves to find that website and take a look around.

So you don't know... Ok, got it.

--

Rick C.

-- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
-- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

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 by: Don Y - Wed, 19 May 2021 19:52 UTC

On 5/19/2021 9:26 AM, whit3rd wrote:
> Alas, we humans have traditionally located ourselves near bodies of water, and large concentrations
> (cities) near large bodies of water, or junctions.

.... because water is a source of transportation and power "generation"

> Big airports don't require or benefit from
> water resources, but they ARE placed near big cities. Exceptions include Washington Dulles International
> Airport; have you ever heard of Reston?

Ditto O'Hare and Midway. Flying into Midway is as maddening as Boston.
In addition to the water, the proximity of "highly developed civilization"
reinforces your hope in the pilot's abilities!

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 by: Spehro Pefhany - Wed, 19 May 2021 20:20 UTC

On Wed, 19 May 2021 12:52:17 -0700, Don Y
<blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:

>On 5/19/2021 9:26 AM, whit3rd wrote:
>> Alas, we humans have traditionally located ourselves near bodies of water, and large concentrations
>> (cities) near large bodies of water, or junctions.
>
>... because water is a source of transportation and power "generation"
>
>> Big airports don't require or benefit from
>> water resources, but they ARE placed near big cities. Exceptions include Washington Dulles International
>> Airport; have you ever heard of Reston?
>
>Ditto O'Hare and Midway. Flying into Midway is as maddening as Boston.
>In addition to the water, the proximity of "highly developed civilization"
>reinforces your hope in the pilot's abilities!

Hong Kong's old Kai Tak airport was the most exciting one I've flown
into. A turn between two mountains at about 500', down skimming the
rooftops of run-down residential high-rises with laundry out on poles
and down onto a runway that terminated in the sea.

They closed it in '98 in favor of a massive modern airport out on
Lantau island with various modern links to Kowloon.

It doesn't look as bad, but apparently Reagan airport in DC requires a
fair bit of pilot skill because they can't overfly sensitive regime
structures such as the presidential palace.
--
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

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onsdag den 19. maj 2021 kl. 22.20.54 UTC+2 skrev Spehro Pefhany:
> On Wed, 19 May 2021 12:52:17 -0700, Don Y
> <blocked...@foo.invalid> wrote:
>
> >On 5/19/2021 9:26 AM, whit3rd wrote:
> >> Alas, we humans have traditionally located ourselves near bodies of water, and large concentrations
> >> (cities) near large bodies of water, or junctions.
> >
> >... because water is a source of transportation and power "generation"
> >
> >> Big airports don't require or benefit from
> >> water resources, but they ARE placed near big cities. Exceptions include Washington Dulles International
> >> Airport; have you ever heard of Reston?
> >
> >Ditto O'Hare and Midway. Flying into Midway is as maddening as Boston.
> >In addition to the water, the proximity of "highly developed civilization"
> >reinforces your hope in the pilot's abilities!
> Hong Kong's old Kai Tak airport was the most exciting one I've flown
> into. A turn between two mountains at about 500', down skimming the
> rooftops of run-down residential high-rises with laundry out on poles
> and down onto a runway that terminated in the sea.
>
https://youtu.be/3PCOcyt7BPI

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 by: Don Y - Wed, 19 May 2021 20:51 UTC

On 5/19/2021 1:20 PM, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> On Wed, 19 May 2021 12:52:17 -0700, Don Y
> <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 5/19/2021 9:26 AM, whit3rd wrote:
>>> Alas, we humans have traditionally located ourselves near bodies of water, and large concentrations
>>> (cities) near large bodies of water, or junctions.
>>
>> ... because water is a source of transportation and power "generation"
>>
>>> Big airports don't require or benefit from
>>> water resources, but they ARE placed near big cities. Exceptions include Washington Dulles International
>>> Airport; have you ever heard of Reston?
>>
>> Ditto O'Hare and Midway. Flying into Midway is as maddening as Boston.
>> In addition to the water, the proximity of "highly developed civilization"
>> reinforces your hope in the pilot's abilities!
>
> Hong Kong's old Kai Tak airport was the most exciting one I've flown
> into. A turn between two mountains at about 500', down skimming the
> rooftops of run-down residential high-rises with laundry out on poles
> and down onto a runway that terminated in the sea.

It's the overwater approaches that seem the most frightful.
All you see is water (cuz you can't see directly in front of the aircraft).
And, you know you are getting lower and lower... you can see discrete waves
below you (though are still robbed of any references from which to
gauge height.

Then, suddenly, you're on the ground.

Midway is a double treat in that it is *in* the city so an error to
one side drops you into the lake... while the other leaves you embedded
in some buildings.

By comparison, places like Kansas City are cake walks!

> They closed it in '98 in favor of a massive modern airport out on
> Lantau island with various modern links to Kowloon.
>
> It doesn't look as bad, but apparently Reagan airport in DC requires a
> fair bit of pilot skill because they can't overfly sensitive regime
> structures such as the presidential palace.

Um, we call it The White House.... "Palace" sounding way too colonial! :>

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 by: Cydrome Leader - Sat, 22 May 2021 05:42 UTC

Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
> On 5/19/2021 1:20 PM, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
>> On Wed, 19 May 2021 12:52:17 -0700, Don Y
>> <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/19/2021 9:26 AM, whit3rd wrote:
>>>> Alas, we humans have traditionally located ourselves near bodies of water, and large concentrations
>>>> (cities) near large bodies of water, or junctions.
>>>
>>> ... because water is a source of transportation and power "generation"
>>>
>>>> Big airports don't require or benefit from
>>>> water resources, but they ARE placed near big cities. Exceptions include Washington Dulles International
>>>> Airport; have you ever heard of Reston?
>>>
>>> Ditto O'Hare and Midway. Flying into Midway is as maddening as Boston.
>>> In addition to the water, the proximity of "highly developed civilization"
>>> reinforces your hope in the pilot's abilities!
>>
>> Hong Kong's old Kai Tak airport was the most exciting one I've flown
>> into. A turn between two mountains at about 500', down skimming the
>> rooftops of run-down residential high-rises with laundry out on poles
>> and down onto a runway that terminated in the sea.
>
> It's the overwater approaches that seem the most frightful.
> All you see is water (cuz you can't see directly in front of the aircraft).
> And, you know you are getting lower and lower... you can see discrete waves
> below you (though are still robbed of any references from which to
> gauge height.
>
> Then, suddenly, you're on the ground.
>
> Midway is a double treat in that it is *in* the city so an error to
> one side drops you into the lake... while the other leaves you embedded
> in some buildings.

WTF are you talking about? The "lake" is about 8 miles away from Midway.

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 by: Cydrome Leader - Sat, 22 May 2021 05:48 UTC

Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 3:05:31 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
>> Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 1:03:23 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
>> >> Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 7:08:11 PM UTC-4, Cydrome Leader wrote:
>> >> >> Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > Study: Climate change added $8 billion to Sandy???s damages
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > https://apnews.com/article/climate-climate-change-science-environment-and-nature-a9df0907dd0c0a5fbe597468a3eebcec
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > They shouldn't even quote little numbers, like inches, in stories targeting the MASSES, that sort of downplays it to the idiots.
>> >> >> According to random numbers from unnamed "experts" at some alarmist
>> >> >> website?
>> >> >
>> >> > The story links to the publication of their study in Nature Communications here
>> >> > https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-22838-1
>> >> > Dunno where you're getting alarmist website from.
>> >> I know you can't read, but lookup who the authors are. It all goes back to
>> >> some retarded doom 'n gloom website with random number math. It's all
>> >> bullshit.
>> >
>> > I expect some of us know a lot more about bs than others, essentially having lots of first hand experience.
>> >
>> > Any reason why you don't give a link to that web site and the names? i.e. show us the money!
>> You already posted the link. Move your mouse or trackball cursor over the
>> names of the authors. Write down the name of the organization that
>> appears. Now ask jeeves to find that website and take a look around.
>
> I suppose you mean this: https://www.climatecentral.org/ Just because
> they're on mission to promote and publicize climate change research
> doesn't mean they're doctoring the data.

So tell us, what does it mean?

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