Report: Embalmers Notice Something Very Unusual Happening to Human Blood
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2022/09/12/embalmers-notice-major-uptick-in-clotting-n2612909

One has to wonder, as these embalmers are, whether this is a by-product of the vaccines, and whether it is responsible for deaths...

Andre Jute
Are you fully vaccinated, boosted, topped up and electrified? Perhaps you should have been more careful what you wished for.

On Mon, 12 Sep 2022 15:59:23 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
<fiultra1@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Report: Embalmers Notice Something Very Unusual Happening to Human Blood
>https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2022/09/12/embalmers-notice-major-uptick-in-clotting-n2612909
>
>One has to wonder, as these embalmers are, whether this is a by-product of the vaccines, and whether it is responsible for deaths...

Subscription ($49/year) is required to read the article.

Similar articles were previously posted as "fibrous" blood since about
April 2021.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=embalmers+white+fibrous+blood>

Fact Checking:
<https://fullfact.org/online/funeral-director-no-evidence/>
<https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2022/theres-no-scientific-evidence-that-vaccines-are-responsible-for-strange-blood-clots-observed-by-embalmers/>

When I was much younger, I worked in a mortuary. However, I was not
involved in preparing the bodies. I just swept the floor and helped
keep the place clean. I would offer an opinion, but I don't consider
myself qualified.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 3:59:25 PM UTC-7, Andre Jute wrote:
> Report: Embalmers Notice Something Very Unusual Happening to Human Blood
> https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2022/09/12/embalmers-notice-major-uptick-in-clotting-n2612909
>
> One has to wonder, as these embalmers are, whether this is a by-product of the vaccines, and whether it is responsible for deaths...
>
> Andre Jute
> Are you fully vaccinated, boosted, topped up and electrified? Perhaps you should have been more careful what you wished for.

The latest issue of Cell has a study done by a VERY large group of scientists and it says that if you have taken the vaccine it appears to have "trained" your immune system to not recognize later mutations of the SARS-Cov-2 virus. It is nice to know that the stupid six who immediately ran down and got vaccinated to spite me for telling them that the disease was too minor to worry about vaccinations.

So now the non-vaxxers will catch each new mutation of the SARS virus until their immune system recognizes it and it is no longer a threat and those who got the vaccines will grow more and more ill with each mutation until it kills them. I'm sure that Liebermann will be the first to go since he has spent an entire life without living anyway.

On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 07:46:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>The latest issue of Cell has a study done by a VERY large group
>of scientists and it says that if you have taken the vaccine it
>appears to have "trained" your immune system to not recognize
>later mutations of the SARS-Cov-2 virus.

It's been a while since I've read your "amazing facts". Do you have a
link to the study so I can read what the study says instead of reading
your interpretation? Start here:
<https://www.cell.com>
No, it's not my job to find links to YOUR claims.

>It is nice to know that the stupid six who immediately ran down
>and got vaccinated to spite me for telling them that the
>disease was too minor to worry about vaccinations.

Was it you who proclaimed that Covid-19 was no worse than the flu? If
it was, then the mutations should also be no worse than the flu.

>So now the non-vaxxers will catch each new mutation of the
>SARS virus until their immune system recognizes it and it is
>no longer a threat and those who got the vaccines will grow
>more and more ill with each mutation until it kills them.
>I'm sure that Liebermann will be the first to go since he has
>spent an entire life without living anyway.

I just got a bunch of emails from various local pharmacies offering
the booster shots that include the latest variants.
<https://www.riteaid.com/covid-19/third-dose>
Looks like the latest variants are now almost 100% of the current
infections:
<https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions>
Yeah, a booster that includes these might be a good idea.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 11:41:45 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 07:46:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
><cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>The latest issue of Cell has a study done by a VERY large group
>>of scientists and it says that if you have taken the vaccine it
>>appears to have "trained" your immune system to not recognize
>>later mutations of the SARS-Cov-2 virus.
>
>It's been a while since I've read your "amazing facts". Do you have a
>link to the study so I can read what the study says instead of reading
>your interpretation? Start here:
><https://www.cell.com>
>No, it's not my job to find links to YOUR claims.
>
>>It is nice to know that the stupid six who immediately ran down
>>and got vaccinated to spite me for telling them that the
>>disease was too minor to worry about vaccinations.
>
>Was it you who proclaimed that Covid-19 was no worse than the flu? If
>it was, then the mutations should also be no worse than the flu.
>
>>So now the non-vaxxers will catch each new mutation of the
>>SARS virus until their immune system recognizes it and it is
>>no longer a threat and those who got the vaccines will grow
>>more and more ill with each mutation until it kills them.
>>I'm sure that Liebermann will be the first to go since he has
>>spent an entire life without living anyway.
>
>I just got a bunch of emails from various local pharmacies offering
>the booster shots that include the latest variants.
><https://www.riteaid.com/covid-19/third-dose>
>Looks like the latest variants are now almost 100% of the current
>infections:
><https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions>
>Yeah, a booster that includes these might be a good idea.

But Jeff.... you are talking to a bloke who was so "dumb" that he was
unable to get through high school and who now, apparently due to a
vivid imagination, or perhaps falling off his bicycle, has,
miraculously become an expert in the medical field.

--
Cheers,

John B.

On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 05:44:33 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 11:41:45 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 07:46:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>><cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>The latest issue of Cell has a study done by a VERY large group
>>>of scientists and it says that if you have taken the vaccine it
>>>appears to have "trained" your immune system to not recognize
>>>later mutations of the SARS-Cov-2 virus.
>>
>>It's been a while since I've read your "amazing facts". Do you have a
>>link to the study so I can read what the study says instead of reading
>>your interpretation? Start here:
>><https://www.cell.com>
>>No, it's not my job to find links to YOUR claims.
>>
>>>It is nice to know that the stupid six who immediately ran down
>>>and got vaccinated to spite me for telling them that the
>>>disease was too minor to worry about vaccinations.
>>
>>Was it you who proclaimed that Covid-19 was no worse than the flu? If
>>it was, then the mutations should also be no worse than the flu.
>>
>>>So now the non-vaxxers will catch each new mutation of the
>>>SARS virus until their immune system recognizes it and it is
>>>no longer a threat and those who got the vaccines will grow
>>>more and more ill with each mutation until it kills them.
>>>I'm sure that Liebermann will be the first to go since he has
>>>spent an entire life without living anyway.
>>
>>I just got a bunch of emails from various local pharmacies offering
>>the booster shots that include the latest variants.
>><https://www.riteaid.com/covid-19/third-dose>
>>Looks like the latest variants are now almost 100% of the current
>>infections:
>><https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions>
>>Yeah, a booster that includes these might be a good idea.

>But Jeff.... you are talking to a bloke who was so "dumb" that he was
>unable to get through high school and who now, apparently due to a
>vivid imagination, or perhaps falling off his bicycle, has,
>miraculously become an expert in the medical field.

I try not to criticize the messenger and prefer to concentrate on the
claims and information. I once made that mistake when AT&T announce
OFDM (orthogonal frequency division multiplex) which I immediately
declared to be bogus and impossible. Today OFDM is used in all Wi-Fi
devices and most cell phones. It was a very embarrassing lesson that
I don't want to repeat. I'll give Tom the benefit of the doubt and
assume (until proven otherwise) that he had found a research article
that claims something that I find difficult to believe.

Also, Andre Jute has declared that:
"I follow Tom because he's smarter and better informed from much wider
experience than you clowns. Tom's been proved riotously right about
the pandemic, and with him me."

When Tom provides the missing URL and I am able to read the original
research report, I might be able to claim that both Tom and Andre are
wrong. For the gamblers among the readers, there's a possibility that
Tom's unspecified source may actually be correct.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 5:59:25 PM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
<deleted>
> Are you fully vaccinated, boosted, topped up and electrified? Perhaps you should have been more careful what you wished for.

The vaccine for the Wuhan original COVID19 virus was effective against infections for about 3 months and effective for reduced severity after that, until Omicron variant existed. Then the vaccines were only reduced severity.
So the current boosters have mRNA against both viruses. If you haven't got the original Wuhan COVID19 shots, you need them first.
https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20220912/faq-new-covid-omicron-boosters

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 4:53:24 PM UTC-7, Mike A Schwab wrote:
> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 5:59:25 PM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
> <deleted>
> > Are you fully vaccinated, boosted, topped up and electrified? Perhaps you should have been more careful what you wished for.
> The vaccine for the Wuhan original COVID19 virus was effective against infections for about 3 months and effective for reduced severity after that, until Omicron variant existed. Then the vaccines were only reduced severity..
> So the current boosters have mRNA against both viruses. If you haven't got the original Wuhan COVID19 shots, you need them first.
> https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20220912/faq-new-covid-omicron-boosters

Mike, the vaccines were ineffective from the very start because they ALREADY had Omicron as the main source of infection the day that the vaccines were released. That was mid-December 2020 AFTER Biden had been elected. All of these mandatory calls for vaccination had absolutely nothing to do with prevention, preventing the spread of the virus or making the infection have less serious symptoms.

What's more, in a study authored by over 40 researchers, it was claimed that those vaccinated had immune systems that had been "taught" to not recognize the other variants. So vaccinated people and people most especially with boosters were in more danger than those that were not vaccinated at all.

Let's make this clear, the WHO does NOT believe that this virus came from a "wet market" 1200 miles from the cave where the only bats that have this infection live. Fauci paid for China to build and operate a Class A containment facility. Then he paid them to use research methods illegal in the rest of the world because it was actually the means of developing bio-weapons. WHO has not even turned down the possibility that this virus was developed in other laboratories in the USA which would make Fauci a criminal since the US is a signee on the treaty against development of bio-weapons. This is why Fauci is retiring - he knows that after the Republicans get control of Congress they are going to ask questions that might end up with his spending the rest of his life in prison.

I worked on the means of discovering the CAUSE of AIDS. During this time I had a serious run-in with Fauci. During his time in the CDC that ass has never made one single intelligent decision.

So the answer is - NO the vaccines NEVER worked, the virus was developed using "Gain of Function" techniques which were against the law everywhere in the world except China and now the vaccines themselves appear to have poisoned the vaccinated population over time.

On 9/15/2022 1:41 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 07:46:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The latest issue of Cell has a study done by a VERY large group
>> of scientists and it says that if you have taken the vaccine it
>> appears to have "trained" your immune system to not recognize
>> later mutations of the SARS-Cov-2 virus.
>
> It's been a while since I've read your "amazing facts". Do you have a
> link to the study so I can read what the study says instead of reading
> your interpretation? Start here:
> <https://www.cell.com>
> No, it's not my job to find links to YOUR claims.
>
>> It is nice to know that the stupid six who immediately ran down
>> and got vaccinated to spite me for telling them that the
>> disease was too minor to worry about vaccinations.
>
> Was it you who proclaimed that Covid-19 was no worse than the flu? If
> it was, then the mutations should also be no worse than the flu.
>
>> So now the non-vaxxers will catch each new mutation of the
>> SARS virus until their immune system recognizes it and it is
>> no longer a threat and those who got the vaccines will grow
>> more and more ill with each mutation until it kills them.
>> I'm sure that Liebermann will be the first to go since he has
>> spent an entire life without living anyway.
>
> I just got a bunch of emails from various local pharmacies offering
> the booster shots that include the latest variants.
> <https://www.riteaid.com/covid-19/third-dose>
> Looks like the latest variants are now almost 100% of the current
> infections:
> <https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions>
> Yeah, a booster that includes these might be a good idea.
>
>

How about some good news?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/two-antibodies-identified-in-israel-can-fight-all-known-covid-strains-study-finds/

or 'tikkun olam' as the locals phrase it.

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 16:49:41 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 05:44:33 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 11:41:45 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 07:46:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>>><cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>The latest issue of Cell has a study done by a VERY large group
>>>>of scientists and it says that if you have taken the vaccine it
>>>>appears to have "trained" your immune system to not recognize
>>>>later mutations of the SARS-Cov-2 virus.
>>>
>>>It's been a while since I've read your "amazing facts". Do you have a
>>>link to the study so I can read what the study says instead of reading
>>>your interpretation? Start here:
>>><https://www.cell.com>
>>>No, it's not my job to find links to YOUR claims.
>>>
>>>>It is nice to know that the stupid six who immediately ran down
>>>>and got vaccinated to spite me for telling them that the
>>>>disease was too minor to worry about vaccinations.
>>>
>>>Was it you who proclaimed that Covid-19 was no worse than the flu? If
>>>it was, then the mutations should also be no worse than the flu.
>>>
>>>>So now the non-vaxxers will catch each new mutation of the
>>>>SARS virus until their immune system recognizes it and it is
>>>>no longer a threat and those who got the vaccines will grow
>>>>more and more ill with each mutation until it kills them.
>>>>I'm sure that Liebermann will be the first to go since he has
>>>>spent an entire life without living anyway.
>>>
>>>I just got a bunch of emails from various local pharmacies offering
>>>the booster shots that include the latest variants.
>>><https://www.riteaid.com/covid-19/third-dose>
>>>Looks like the latest variants are now almost 100% of the current
>>>infections:
>>><https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions>
>>>Yeah, a booster that includes these might be a good idea.
>
>>But Jeff.... you are talking to a bloke who was so "dumb" that he was
>>unable to get through high school and who now, apparently due to a
>>vivid imagination, or perhaps falling off his bicycle, has,
>>miraculously become an expert in the medical field.
>
>I try not to criticize the messenger and prefer to concentrate on the
>claims and information. I once made that mistake when AT&T announce
>OFDM (orthogonal frequency division multiplex) which I immediately
>declared to be bogus and impossible. Today OFDM is used in all Wi-Fi
>devices and most cell phones. It was a very embarrassing lesson that
>I don't want to repeat. I'll give Tom the benefit of the doubt and
>assume (until proven otherwise) that he had found a research article
>that claims something that I find difficult to believe.
>
>Also, Andre Jute has declared that:
>"I follow Tom because he's smarter and better informed from much wider
>experience than you clowns. Tom's been proved riotously right about
>the pandemic, and with him me."
>
>When Tom provides the missing URL and I am able to read the original
>research report, I might be able to claim that both Tom and Andre are
>wrong. For the gamblers among the readers, there's a possibility that
>Tom's unspecified source may actually be correct.

But most successful gamblers bet on the side that is most likely to be
right. Where the odds are with them, in other words. So yes there is a
possibility that Tommy may be correct... after all he has been correct
at least 3 times in the past 17 years, but the odds aren't with him.
17 years is 6205 days, so assuming 1 post daily the odds are 6205/3 =
1 in 2,068. If it is a roulette wheel and you win 1 in 2,068 spins you
will go home broke.
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 19:53:35 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:

>On 9/15/2022 1:41 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 07:46:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The latest issue of Cell has a study done by a VERY large group
>>> of scientists and it says that if you have taken the vaccine it
>>> appears to have "trained" your immune system to not recognize
>>> later mutations of the SARS-Cov-2 virus.
>>
>> It's been a while since I've read your "amazing facts". Do you have a
>> link to the study so I can read what the study says instead of reading
>> your interpretation? Start here:
>> <https://www.cell.com>
>> No, it's not my job to find links to YOUR claims.
>>
>>> It is nice to know that the stupid six who immediately ran down
>>> and got vaccinated to spite me for telling them that the
>>> disease was too minor to worry about vaccinations.
>>
>> Was it you who proclaimed that Covid-19 was no worse than the flu? If
>> it was, then the mutations should also be no worse than the flu.
>>
>>> So now the non-vaxxers will catch each new mutation of the
>>> SARS virus until their immune system recognizes it and it is
>>> no longer a threat and those who got the vaccines will grow
>>> more and more ill with each mutation until it kills them.
>>> I'm sure that Liebermann will be the first to go since he has
>>> spent an entire life without living anyway.
>>
>> I just got a bunch of emails from various local pharmacies offering
>> the booster shots that include the latest variants.
>> <https://www.riteaid.com/covid-19/third-dose>
>> Looks like the latest variants are now almost 100% of the current
>> infections:
>> <https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions>
>> Yeah, a booster that includes these might be a good idea.

>How about some good news?
>https://www.timesofisrael.com/two-antibodies-identified-in-israel-can-fight-all-known-covid-strains-study-finds/
>or 'tikkun olam' as the locals phrase it.

Thanks. The world could use some good news for a change. I skimmed
through the report:

"Conformational flexibility in neutralization of SARS-CoV-2 by
naturally elicited anti-SARS-CoV-2 antibodies"
<https://doi.org/10.1038/s42003-022-03739-5>
<https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-022-03739-5.pdf>

Unfortunately, the article is well above my ability to understand much
more than the basics. I'll read more in a few days as more time
becomes available. It's nice that the report has been peer reviewed.
Note that 3 of the authors are from Tsinghua University, Bejing. Nice
to see international cooperation. The big question is probably
whether these antibodies will prevent re-infection.

What can go wrong? By the time these antibodies are available for
use, the variants with which the antibodies work well will have
disappeared to be replaced by new and improved variants which may or
may not be inhibited by these two antibodies. It's very much a moving
target.

Thanks again.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 17:23:06 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

<politicized medicine rubbish deleted>

Hey Tom. Could take a few minutes off from your Politics in Medicine
lectures to find the original article in <https://www.cell.com> which
you cited and which demonstrates your claim that:

>The latest issue of Cell has a study done by a VERY large group
>of scientists and it says that if you have taken the vaccine it
>appears to have "trained" your immune system to not recognize
>later mutations of the SARS-Cov-2 virus.

Thanks.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 19:24:23 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 17:23:06 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
><cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>
><politicized medicine rubbish deleted>
>
>Hey Tom. Could take a few minutes off from your Politics in Medicine
>lectures to find the original article in <https://www.cell.com> which
>you cited and which demonstrates your claim that:
>
>>The latest issue of Cell has a study done by a VERY large group
>>of scientists and it says that if you have taken the vaccine it
>>appears to have "trained" your immune system to not recognize
>>later mutations of the SARS-Cov-2 virus.
>
>Thanks.

This is the index to the current issue (Sept 15) of Cell.
<https://www.cell.com/cell/current> or
<https://www.cell.com/cell/issue?pii=S0092-8674(21)X0020-7>
There's one article which mentions Covid:
"Deep mutational scanning identifies SARS-CoV-2 Nucleocapsid escape
mutations of currently available rapid antigen tests"
<https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(22)01044-3>
which does not mention vaccination or loss of acquired immunity.

I also checked the previous two issues (Sept 1 and Aug 18) and found
nothing:
<https://www.cell.com/cell/issue?pii=S0092-8674(21)X0019-0>
<https://www.cell.com/cell/issue?pii=S0092-8674(21)X0018-9>

Incidentally, I did thing this article, which might be of interest:
"Harnessing social media to challenge scientific misinformation"
<https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(22)00848-0>
Unfortunately, the article is hidden behind a paywall.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 7:23:08 PM UTC-5, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 4:53:24 PM UTC-7, Mike A Schwab wrote:
> > On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 5:59:25 PM UTC-5, Andre Jute wrote:
> > <deleted>
> > > Are you fully vaccinated, boosted, topped up and electrified? Perhaps you should have been more careful what you wished for.
> > The vaccine for the Wuhan original COVID19 virus was effective against infections for about 3 months and effective for reduced severity after that, until Omicron variant existed. Then the vaccines were only reduced severity.
> > So the current boosters have mRNA against both viruses. If you haven't got the original Wuhan COVID19 shots, you need them first.
> > https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/20220912/faq-new-covid-omicron-boosters
> Mike, the vaccines were ineffective from the very start because they ALREADY had Omicron as the main source of infection the day that the vaccines were released. That was mid-December 2020 AFTER Biden had been elected.

??????????????????????????????
Tommy, do you realize what you just admitted??????????????
The Trump MAGA Qanon extremists will be coming for you tonight Tommy. You will be lynched from the nearest tree before morning. Bye Tommy. Nice knowing you. (Actually it wasn't.)

I am not going to respond to the rest of Tommy's nonsense below.

> All of these mandatory calls for vaccination had absolutely nothing to do with prevention, preventing the spread of the virus or making the infection have less serious symptoms.
>
> What's more, in a study authored by over 40 researchers, it was claimed that those vaccinated had immune systems that had been "taught" to not recognize the other variants. So vaccinated people and people most especially with boosters were in more danger than those that were not vaccinated at all.
>
> Let's make this clear, the WHO does NOT believe that this virus came from a "wet market" 1200 miles from the cave where the only bats that have this infection live. Fauci paid for China to build and operate a Class A containment facility. Then he paid them to use research methods illegal in the rest of the world because it was actually the means of developing bio-weapons.. WHO has not even turned down the possibility that this virus was developed in other laboratories in the USA which would make Fauci a criminal since the US is a signee on the treaty against development of bio-weapons. This is why Fauci is retiring - he knows that after the Republicans get control of Congress they are going to ask questions that might end up with his spending the rest of his life in prison.
>
> I worked on the means of discovering the CAUSE of AIDS. During this time I had a serious run-in with Fauci. During his time in the CDC that ass has never made one single intelligent decision.
>
> So the answer is - NO the vaccines NEVER worked, the virus was developed using "Gain of Function" techniques which were against the law everywhere in the world except China and now the vaccines themselves appear to have poisoned the vaccinated population over time.

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 8:02:43 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 16:49:41 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 05:44:33 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 11:41:45 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
> >>wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 07:46:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >>><cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>The latest issue of Cell has a study done by a VERY large group
> >>>>of scientists and it says that if you have taken the vaccine it
> >>>>appears to have "trained" your immune system to not recognize
> >>>>later mutations of the SARS-Cov-2 virus.
> >>>
> >>>It's been a while since I've read your "amazing facts". Do you have a
> >>>link to the study so I can read what the study says instead of reading
> >>>your interpretation? Start here:
> >>><https://www.cell.com>
> >>>No, it's not my job to find links to YOUR claims.
> >>>
> >>>>It is nice to know that the stupid six who immediately ran down
> >>>>and got vaccinated to spite me for telling them that the
> >>>>disease was too minor to worry about vaccinations.
> >>>
> >>>Was it you who proclaimed that Covid-19 was no worse than the flu? If
> >>>it was, then the mutations should also be no worse than the flu.
> >>>
> >>>>So now the non-vaxxers will catch each new mutation of the
> >>>>SARS virus until their immune system recognizes it and it is
> >>>>no longer a threat and those who got the vaccines will grow
> >>>>more and more ill with each mutation until it kills them.
> >>>>I'm sure that Liebermann will be the first to go since he has
> >>>>spent an entire life without living anyway.
> >>>
> >>>I just got a bunch of emails from various local pharmacies offering
> >>>the booster shots that include the latest variants.
> >>><https://www.riteaid.com/covid-19/third-dose>
> >>>Looks like the latest variants are now almost 100% of the current
> >>>infections:
> >>><https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions>
> >>>Yeah, a booster that includes these might be a good idea.
> >
> >>But Jeff.... you are talking to a bloke who was so "dumb" that he was
> >>unable to get through high school and who now, apparently due to a
> >>vivid imagination, or perhaps falling off his bicycle, has,
> >>miraculously become an expert in the medical field.
> >
> >I try not to criticize the messenger and prefer to concentrate on the
> >claims and information. I once made that mistake when AT&T announce
> >OFDM (orthogonal frequency division multiplex) which I immediately
> >declared to be bogus and impossible. Today OFDM is used in all Wi-Fi
> >devices and most cell phones. It was a very embarrassing lesson that
> >I don't want to repeat. I'll give Tom the benefit of the doubt and
> >assume (until proven otherwise) that he had found a research article
> >that claims something that I find difficult to believe.
> >
> >Also, Andre Jute has declared that:
> >"I follow Tom because he's smarter and better informed from much wider
> >experience than you clowns. Tom's been proved riotously right about
> >the pandemic, and with him me."
> >
> >When Tom provides the missing URL and I am able to read the original
> >research report, I might be able to claim that both Tom and Andre are
> >wrong. For the gamblers among the readers, there's a possibility that
> >Tom's unspecified source may actually be correct.
> But most successful gamblers bet on the side that is most likely to be
> right. Where the odds are with them, in other words. So yes there is a
> possibility that Tommy may be correct... after all he has been correct
> at least 3 times in the past 17 years, but the odds aren't with him.
> 17 years is 6205 days, so assuming 1 post daily the odds are 6205/3 =
> 1 in 2,068. If it is a roulette wheel and you win 1 in 2,068 spins you
> will go home broke.
> --
> Cheers,
>
> John B.

John, an 80-1 long shot won the Kentucky Derby this year.

On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 00:35:39 -0700 (PDT), "russellseaton1@yahoo.com"
<ritzannaseaton@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 8:02:43 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 16:49:41 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 05:44:33 +0700, John B. <sloc...@gmail.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 11:41:45 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <je...@cruzio.com>
>> >>wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>On Thu, 15 Sep 2022 07:46:58 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> >>><cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>The latest issue of Cell has a study done by a VERY large group
>> >>>>of scientists and it says that if you have taken the vaccine it
>> >>>>appears to have "trained" your immune system to not recognize
>> >>>>later mutations of the SARS-Cov-2 virus.
>> >>>
>> >>>It's been a while since I've read your "amazing facts". Do you have a
>> >>>link to the study so I can read what the study says instead of reading
>> >>>your interpretation? Start here:
>> >>><https://www.cell.com>
>> >>>No, it's not my job to find links to YOUR claims.
>> >>>
>> >>>>It is nice to know that the stupid six who immediately ran down
>> >>>>and got vaccinated to spite me for telling them that the
>> >>>>disease was too minor to worry about vaccinations.
>> >>>
>> >>>Was it you who proclaimed that Covid-19 was no worse than the flu? If
>> >>>it was, then the mutations should also be no worse than the flu.
>> >>>
>> >>>>So now the non-vaxxers will catch each new mutation of the
>> >>>>SARS virus until their immune system recognizes it and it is
>> >>>>no longer a threat and those who got the vaccines will grow
>> >>>>more and more ill with each mutation until it kills them.
>> >>>>I'm sure that Liebermann will be the first to go since he has
>> >>>>spent an entire life without living anyway.
>> >>>
>> >>>I just got a bunch of emails from various local pharmacies offering
>> >>>the booster shots that include the latest variants.
>> >>><https://www.riteaid.com/covid-19/third-dose>
>> >>>Looks like the latest variants are now almost 100% of the current
>> >>>infections:
>> >>><https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions>
>> >>>Yeah, a booster that includes these might be a good idea.
>> >
>> >>But Jeff.... you are talking to a bloke who was so "dumb" that he was
>> >>unable to get through high school and who now, apparently due to a
>> >>vivid imagination, or perhaps falling off his bicycle, has,
>> >>miraculously become an expert in the medical field.
>> >
>> >I try not to criticize the messenger and prefer to concentrate on the
>> >claims and information. I once made that mistake when AT&T announce
>> >OFDM (orthogonal frequency division multiplex) which I immediately
>> >declared to be bogus and impossible. Today OFDM is used in all Wi-Fi
>> >devices and most cell phones. It was a very embarrassing lesson that
>> >I don't want to repeat. I'll give Tom the benefit of the doubt and
>> >assume (until proven otherwise) that he had found a research article
>> >that claims something that I find difficult to believe.
>> >
>> >Also, Andre Jute has declared that:
>> >"I follow Tom because he's smarter and better informed from much wider
>> >experience than you clowns. Tom's been proved riotously right about
>> >the pandemic, and with him me."
>> >
>> >When Tom provides the missing URL and I am able to read the original
>> >research report, I might be able to claim that both Tom and Andre are
>> >wrong. For the gamblers among the readers, there's a possibility that
>> >Tom's unspecified source may actually be correct.
>> But most successful gamblers bet on the side that is most likely to be
>> right. Where the odds are with them, in other words. So yes there is a
>> possibility that Tommy may be correct... after all he has been correct
>> at least 3 times in the past 17 years, but the odds aren't with him.
>> 17 years is 6205 days, so assuming 1 post daily the odds are 6205/3 =
>> 1 in 2,068. If it is a roulette wheel and you win 1 in 2,068 spins you
>> will go home broke.
>> --
>> Cheers,
>>
>> John B.
>
>John, an 80-1 long shot won the Kentucky Derby this year.

I hate to tell you but an 80-1 shot is somewhat different then one
chance in 2,068 (:-)

--
Cheers,

John B.

On 9/15/2022 4:49 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

<snip>

> Also, Andre Jute has declared that:
> "I follow Tom because he's smarter and better informed from much wider
> experience than you clowns. Tom's been proved riotously right about
> the pandemic, and with him me."
>
> When Tom provides the missing URL and I am able to read the original
> research report, I might be able to claim that both Tom and Andre are
> wrong. For the gamblers among the readers, there's a possibility that
> Tom's unspecified source may actually be correct.

Jeff, have you considered using all the time that you spend making fun
of Tom's and Andre's lies in a more productive way? Maybe reopen your
business in Santa Cruz so then at least you can earn money for your
time. AFAIK, you're not making any money by making Tom & Andre look
foolish.

On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 11:17:34 AM UTC-4, sms wrote:
> On 9/15/2022 4:49 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > Also, Andre Jute has declared that:
> > "I follow Tom because he's smarter and better informed from much wider
> > experience than you clowns. Tom's been proved riotously right about
> > the pandemic, and with him me."
> >
> > When Tom provides the missing URL and I am able to read the original
> > research report, I might be able to claim that both Tom and Andre are
> > wrong. For the gamblers among the readers, there's a possibility that
> > Tom's unspecified source may actually be correct.
> Jeff, have you considered using all the time that you spend making fun
> of Tom's and Andre's lies in a more productive way? Maybe reopen your
> business in Santa Cruz so then at least you can earn money for your
> time. AFAIK, you're not making any money by making Tom & Andre look
> foolish.

Jeff is not _making_ Tom & Andre look foolish. They do that voluntarily.

And Jeff is certainly allowed to choose his hobbies. After all, there's much more to life
than making money. I, for one, am grateful for Jeff's posts.

- Frank Krygowski

On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 08:17:30 -0700, sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
wrote:

>On 9/15/2022 4:49 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>> Also, Andre Jute has declared that:
>> "I follow Tom because he's smarter and better informed from much wider
>> experience than you clowns. Tom's been proved riotously right about
>> the pandemic, and with him me."
>>
>> When Tom provides the missing URL and I am able to read the original
>> research report, I might be able to claim that both Tom and Andre are
>> wrong. For the gamblers among the readers, there's a possibility that
>> Tom's unspecified source may actually be correct.

>Jeff, have you considered using all the time that you spend making fun
>of Tom's and Andre's lies in a more productive way?

No, not really. I consider fact checking to be a recreational
exercise and somewhat of a sport. It's also somewhat like a mystery
story, where the object is to find sufficient evidence to convict the
obvious culprit. There's no immediate reward, but the satisfaction of
defeating the culprits in their unending campaign to replace truth
with politics is sufficient gratification.

Actually, I had no idea that Tom's vaccination claim, allegedly from
the Cell publication, were a fabrication. I originally assumed that
Tom had read about it in a right wing publication. I never even
considered the possibility that he had contrived the story. A link to
the right wing publication would have been sufficient.

>Maybe reopen your
>business in Santa Cruz so then at least you can earn money for your
>time.

I've already done so, but not in Santa Cruz. I miss the office, but
not the accompanying headaches, hassles and expenses. I'm doing ok
working from home.

>AFAIK, you're not making any money by making Tom & Andre look
>foolish.

True. I should fund my efforts through a Kickstarter campaign or
simply extort money from my victims. Tom has hinted that he has
millions to fund his bicycle stable, while Andre seems to have lived a
rather opulent lifestyle. Anyone who can afford a Rohloff gear hub
must be wealthy. They should have some surplus money available to
fund my decadent and lavish lifestyle. Thanks for the suggestion.

Drivel: Gone for yet another walk in Quail Hollow County Park. It's
not a good substitute for a bicycle ride but it's the best I can do.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 11:17:34 AM UTC-4, sms wrote:
>> On 9/15/2022 4:49 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>> Also, Andre Jute has declared that:
>>> "I follow Tom because he's smarter and better informed from much wider
>>> experience than you clowns. Tom's been proved riotously right about
>>> the pandemic, and with him me."

So what's your issue with that, Jeff?

>>> When Tom provides the missing URL and I am able to read the original
>>> research report, I might be able to claim that both Tom and Andre are
>>> wrong. For the gamblers among the readers, there's a possibility that
>>> Tom's unspecified source may actually be correct.

Come on, you didn't even respond, if only to debunk, to a very clear,
simple graph I had suggested you look up: a worrying pattern in
Israel's data on JHU showing death numbers repeatedly increasing _after_
the kickoffs of their national vaccination campaigns. Now you want to
process a Science text? You are the one triple pfizer-shot, so why are
you not up to date on the OAS / priming topics? This article is from June:
<https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abq1841>

>> Jeff, have you considered using all the time that you spend making fun
>> of Tom's and Andre's lies in a more productive way? Maybe reopen your
>> business in Santa Cruz so then at least you can earn money for your
>> time. AFAIK, you're not making any money by making Tom & Andre look
>> foolish.

I doubt Jeff's efforts are even benefitting his health.

> Jeff is not _making_ Tom & Andre look foolish.

Why should we trust your judgment, Frank? See, we know for a fact that
your brain twists Tom and Andre's image by 180 degrees!

I did not keep track, of course, but since you became a collage
professor, and a bicycle club officer, have you ever admitted, at least
once, to looking foolish as an adult, except for intentional reasonsit
intentionally, especially for virtuous causes?

Oh, what again was the original topic? Pulled-pfizerpork pasta and
calamari structures, wasn't it:
<https://www.rintrah.nl/why-are-embalmers-finding-fiber-clots-in-blood-vessels-of-the-deceased/>

On 9/16/2022 2:59 PM, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 11:17:34 AM UTC-4, sms
>> wrote:
>>> On 9/15/2022 4:49 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>> Also, Andre Jute has declared that:
>>>> "I follow Tom because he's smarter and better informed
>>>> from much wider
>>>> experience than you clowns. Tom's been proved riotously
>>>> right about
>>>> the pandemic, and with him me."
>
> So what's your issue with that, Jeff?
>
>>>> When Tom provides the missing URL and I am able to read
>>>> the original
>>>> research report, I might be able to claim that both Tom
>>>> and Andre are
>>>> wrong. For the gamblers among the readers, there's a
>>>> possibility that
>>>> Tom's unspecified source may actually be correct.
>
> Come on, you didn't even respond, if only to debunk, to a
> very clear, simple graph I had suggested you look up: a
> worrying pattern in Israel's data on JHU showing death
> numbers repeatedly increasing _after_ the kickoffs of their
> national vaccination campaigns. Now you want to process a
> Science text? You are the one triple pfizer-shot, so why
> are you not up to date on the OAS / priming topics? This
> article is from June:
> <https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abq1841>
>
>
>>> Jeff, have you considered using all the time that you
>>> spend making fun
>>> of Tom's and Andre's lies in a more productive way? Maybe
>>> reopen your
>>> business in Santa Cruz so then at least you can earn
>>> money for your
>>> time. AFAIK, you're not making any money by making Tom &
>>> Andre look
>>> foolish.
>
> I doubt Jeff's efforts are even benefitting his health.
>
>> Jeff is not _making_ Tom & Andre look foolish.
>
> Why should we trust your judgment, Frank? See, we know for
> a fact that your brain twists Tom and Andre's image by 180
> degrees!
>
> I did not keep track, of course, but since you became a
> collage professor, and a bicycle club officer, have you ever
> admitted, at least once, to looking foolish as an adult,
> except for intentional reasonsit intentionally, especially
> for virtuous causes?
>
>
> Oh, what again was the original topic? Pulled-pfizerpork
> pasta and calamari structures, wasn't it:
> <https://www.rintrah.nl/why-are-embalmers-finding-fiber-clots-in-blood-vessels-of-the-deceased/>
>
>
>

There are some eyebrow-raising reports on various as yet
inexplicable anomalies:

https://www.conservativereview.com/horowitz-cornea-transplant-rejection-vaccine-2658229594.html?utm_source=cr-weekly

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 9/16/2022 9:01 AM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

<snip>

> True. I should fund my efforts through a Kickstarter campaign or
> simply extort money from my victims. Tom has hinted that he has
> millions to fund his bicycle stable, while Andre seems to have lived a
> rather opulent lifestyle. Anyone who can afford a Rohloff gear hub
> must be wealthy. They should have some surplus money available to
> fund my decadent and lavish lifestyle. Thanks for the suggestion.

<snip>

Wealthy cyclists have a Kindernay XIV internal hub. Greater range and
lower weight than a Rohloff Speedhub 500/14. Rohloff Speedhubs are a
poor man's internal hub.

Tom lost most of his money in Obama's economic boom, thanks to an
incompetent financial advisor that advised him to short-sell
skyrocketing stocks.

Neither will fund your kickstarter.

On 9/16/2022 12:59 PM, Sepp Ruf wrote:
> Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 11:17:34 AM UTC-4, sms wrote:
>>> On 9/15/2022 4:49 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>> Also, Andre Jute has declared that:
>>>> "I follow Tom because he's smarter and better informed from much wider
>>>> experience than you clowns. Tom's been proved riotously right about
>>>> the pandemic, and with him me."
>
> So what's your issue with that, Jeff?

Uh, because Andre and Tom have been proven wrong on just about
everything they've posted about the pandemic.

On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 4:29:57 PM UTC+1, frkr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Jeff is not _making_ Tom & Andre look foolish. They do that voluntarily.
>
Why, thank you, Franki-boy. I always wanted to be a standup comedian. Unfortunately I wasn't common enough.
>
> And Jeff is certainly allowed to choose his hobbies. After all, there's much more to life
> than making money. I, for one, am grateful for Jeff's posts.
>
Trying to build up your little street corner gang again, eh, Franki-boy?
>
> - Frank Krygowski
Retired welding instructor, stupid enough to fuck with a professional wordsmith in a polemicist's dream medium.
>
Yup, that describes Franki-boy.
>
Unsigned out of contempt for a wannabe street corner bully, in a suburb so dull, 6pm every day they roll up the sidewalks.
>
PS. You're in my thread, Franki-boy. Piss off.
>

On Fri, 16 Sep 2022 21:59:08 +0200, Sepp Ruf <inqbel@Safe-mail.net>
wrote:

>Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 11:17:34 AM UTC-4, sms wrote:
>>> On 9/15/2022 4:49 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>> Also, Andre Jute has declared that:
>>>> "I follow Tom because he's smarter and better informed from much wider
>>>> experience than you clowns. Tom's been proved riotously right about
>>>> the pandemic, and with him me."
>
>So what's your issue with that, Jeff?

Tom has been fairly close to 100% wrong on his "amazing facts". His
recent claim that vaccinations cause a loss of immunity is good
example. Also, his chronic use of VAERS data to prove some point even
though the CDC indicates that crowd sourced data can't be used to
establish cause and effect. I'm very much in a hurry right now but
will happily provide examples with URL's when I have time (probably
Sunday).

>>>> When Tom provides the missing URL and I am able to read the original
>>>> research report, I might be able to claim that both Tom and Andre are
>>>> wrong. For the gamblers among the readers, there's a possibility that
>>>> Tom's unspecified source may actually be correct.
>
>Come on, you didn't even respond, if only to debunk,

Respond to what? Tom's claim(s) or yours? I sometimes ignore Tom's
"amazing facts" simply because of lack of time. It might take Tom 10
minutes to fabricate an amazing fact. It might take me hours to find
the original sources and provide a readable fact check report. Try
fact checking just one of Tom's "amazing facts" and you'll soon see
what's involved.

>to a very clear,
>simple graph I had suggested you look up: a worrying pattern in
>Israel's data on JHU showing death numbers repeatedly increasing _after_
>the kickoffs of their national vaccination campaigns.

I saw that. You tacked the URL pointing a two graphs showing
something very disturbing. I was very interested in the graphs. Just
one problem. There was no sources or any additional information. I
had meant to ask you for your sources, but either forgot or became
busy with something else. Could I trouble you for the link again,
this time including the URL?

>Now you want to process a Science text?

Well, yes. I've done it before and can do it again. It's not
necessary to understand everything in such reports. I'm interested in
the methodology used, who was involved in preparing the report, who
funded the report, was it peer reviewed, are the statistics correct,
references to past research, and similar items which might discount
the validity of the report and its claims. So far, I've spent about
15 minutes digging through it and at first glance can find nothing
wrong. I've seen other reports, which provide amazing conclusions,
only to discover that the report was based on a statistical sample of
5 patients. That's the kind of junk I'm looking for. If I manage to
pickup some understanding during the process, all for the better.

>You are the one triple pfizer-shot, so why are
>you not up to date on the OAS / priming topics? This article is from June:
><https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abq1841>

4 Pfizer shots. 2 vaccines and 2 booster shots. I'm considering a
3rd booster. I read a summary of that article about 3 months ago.
Since I'm not paranoid about vaccine side effects, I didn't read any
further than the summary.

>>> Jeff, have you considered using all the time that you spend making fun
>>> of Tom's and Andre's lies in a more productive way? Maybe reopen your
>>> business in Santa Cruz so then at least you can earn money for your
>>> time. AFAIK, you're not making any money by making Tom & Andre look
>>> foolish.
>
>I doubt Jeff's efforts are even benefitting his health.

Indirectly, they have. I've been doing all my manual labor instead of
hiring people. I got a surprise yesterday. The weather forecast
predicts rain on Saturday night. Usually, the first rain is in late
October in this area (Santa Cruz, CA). This time, it's a month early.
So, I get to do a months yard work in 2 days. I've been working 30
minutes and resting 15 minutes. I spend the resting time on the
computer, mostly so I'm not tempted to fall asleep. I'm tired, but
feeling quite well. That wasn't the case when I was having chest
pains (angina) and assorted aches and pains. Staying home has
definitely benefited my health.

>> Jeff is not _making_ Tom & Andre look foolish.
>
>Why should we trust your judgment, Frank? See, we know for a fact that
>your brain twists Tom and Andre's image by 180 degrees!

I won't try to answer for Frank.

>I did not keep track, of course, but since you became a collage
>professor, and a bicycle club officer, have you ever admitted, at least
>once, to looking foolish as an adult, except for intentional reasonsit
>intentionally, especially for virtuous causes?

Maybe I should answer for Frank. The secret to success is to learn
how to survive failure. Everyone makes mistakes. I made a few really
bad mistakes recently. I survived. Now, look at Tom and possibly
Andre. They also make mistakes, lots of mistakes, but did they
survive? Nope. They both try to bury their mistakes hoping that
nobody will remember. Both are masters at bluster (loud, aggressive,
or indignant talk with little effect). If you're looking for
perfection or a roll model, you came to the wrong place.

>Oh, what again was the original topic? Pulled-pfizerpork pasta and
>calamari structures, wasn't it:
><https://www.rintrah.nl/why-are-embalmers-finding-fiber-clots-in-blood-vessels-of-the-deceased/>

Nice article. I like the blog owners mantra:
"The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely
free that your very existence is an act of rebellion."
I haven't had time to track down the source of the
"Renal Failure - Mortality Deviation from Trend 2018 - 2022"
Please read that title carefully. Notice that it's not the actual
incidence of renal failure, but rather the deviation from an
unspecified normal trend. The source is "The Ethical Skeptic" which
I'll chase down later.

Reminder: 2 graphs from Israel with the source URL.
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558