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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 05:40 UTC

On Sunday, 25 July 2021 at 18:40:17 UTC+2, Helmut Wabnig wrote:

> >> Not even wrong. Einstein rather combined relativity and Maxwell's laws, and it is the latter that imply that the speed of light in vacuum is some specific constant. An immediate consequence is SR, which is not only patently consistent from a mathematical and even a logical point of view
> >
> >A lie, as expected from fanatic trash, of course it is not.
> Wozi, prove it, faith does not work.

Wabi, poor idiot, you're a living proof that faith works
much better than any proofs. But tell me, please,
what was the unit of time your idiot guru was referring
to in 1905? How was it defined?

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 by: Michael Moroney - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 13:43 UTC

On 7/29/2021 1:40 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Sunday, 25 July 2021 at 18:40:17 UTC+2, Helmut Wabnig wrote:
>
>>>> Not even wrong. Einstein rather combined relativity and Maxwell's laws, and it is the latter that imply that the speed of light in vacuum is some specific constant. An immediate consequence is SR, which is not only patently consistent from a mathematical and even a logical point of view
>>>
>>> A lie, as expected from fanatic trash, of course it is not.
>> Wozi, prove it, faith does not work.
>
> Wabi, poor idiot, you're a living proof that faith works
> much better than any proofs. But tell me, please,
> what was the unit of time your idiot guru was referring
> to in 1905? How was it defined?
>
So you can't prove it. You have to deflect by changing the argument.

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 14:36 UTC

On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 15:43:46 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 7/29/2021 1:40 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > On Sunday, 25 July 2021 at 18:40:17 UTC+2, Helmut Wabnig wrote:
> >
> >>>> Not even wrong. Einstein rather combined relativity and Maxwell's laws, and it is the latter that imply that the speed of light in vacuum is some specific constant. An immediate consequence is SR, which is not only patently consistent from a mathematical and even a logical point of view
> >>>
> >>> A lie, as expected from fanatic trash, of course it is not.
> >> Wozi, prove it, faith does not work.
> >
> > Wabi, poor idiot, you're a living proof that faith works
> > much better than any proofs. But tell me, please,
> > what was the unit of time your idiot guru was referring
> > to in 1905? How was it defined?
> >
> So you can't prove it.

Noone will prove anything to a religious crank like Wabi
(or yourself) as long as he's refusing even to answer questions,
stupid Mike.

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 by: Michael Moroney - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 15:00 UTC

On 7/29/2021 10:36 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 15:43:46 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> On 7/29/2021 1:40 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>> On Sunday, 25 July 2021 at 18:40:17 UTC+2, Helmut Wabnig wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Not even wrong. Einstein rather combined relativity and Maxwell's laws, and it is the latter that imply that the speed of light in vacuum is some specific constant. An immediate consequence is SR, which is not only patently consistent from a mathematical and even a logical point of view
>>>>>
>>>>> A lie, as expected from fanatic trash, of course it is not.
>>>> Wozi, prove it, faith does not work.
>>>
>>> Wabi, poor idiot, you're a living proof that faith works
>>> much better than any proofs. But tell me, please,
>>> what was the unit of time your idiot guru was referring
>>> to in 1905? How was it defined?
>>>
>> So you can't prove it. [You have to deflect by changing the argument.]
>
> Noone will prove anything to a religious crank like Wabi
> (or yourself) as long as he's refusing even to answer questions,
> stupid Mike.
>

So why did you deflect from the question? Why did you remove where I
pointed out your deflection? I'll answer for you: Because you can't
prove that SR is consistent mathematically and logically.

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 15:08 UTC

On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 17:00:15 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 7/29/2021 10:36 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 15:43:46 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >> On 7/29/2021 1:40 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, 25 July 2021 at 18:40:17 UTC+2, Helmut Wabnig wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>> Not even wrong. Einstein rather combined relativity and Maxwell's laws, and it is the latter that imply that the speed of light in vacuum is some specific constant. An immediate consequence is SR, which is not only patently consistent from a mathematical and even a logical point of view
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A lie, as expected from fanatic trash, of course it is not.
> >>>> Wozi, prove it, faith does not work.
> >>>
> >>> Wabi, poor idiot, you're a living proof that faith works
> >>> much better than any proofs. But tell me, please,
> >>> what was the unit of time your idiot guru was referring
> >>> to in 1905? How was it defined?
> >>>
> >> So you can't prove it. [You have to deflect by changing the argument.]
> >
> > Noone will prove anything to a religious crank like Wabi
> > (or yourself) as long as he's refusing even to answer questions,
> > stupid Mike.
> >
> So why did you deflect from the question?

I didn't, stupid Mike. You're fabricating and lying,
again, as that's what your Shit has trained you for.

Why did you remove where I
> pointed out your deflection? I'll answer for you: Because you can't
> prove that SR is consistent mathematically and logically.

Nobody can prove anything to a religious crank, like Wabi
(or yourself), as long as he's refusing even to answer questions,
stupid Mike.

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 by: Michael Moroney - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 15:18 UTC

On 7/29/2021 11:08 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 17:00:15 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> On 7/29/2021 10:36 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 15:43:46 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>> On 7/29/2021 1:40 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, 25 July 2021 at 18:40:17 UTC+2, Helmut Wabnig wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not even wrong. Einstein rather combined relativity and Maxwell's laws, and it is the latter that imply that the speed of light in vacuum is some specific constant. An immediate consequence is SR, which is not only patently consistent from a mathematical and even a logical point of view
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A lie, as expected from fanatic trash, of course it is not.
>>>>>> Wozi, prove it, faith does not work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wabi, poor idiot, you're a living proof that faith works
>>>>> much better than any proofs. But tell me, please,
>>>>> what was the unit of time your idiot guru was referring
>>>>> to in 1905? How was it defined?
>>>>>
>>>> So you can't prove it. [You have to deflect by changing the argument.]
>>>
>>> Noone will prove anything to a religious crank like Wabi
>>> (or yourself) as long as he's refusing even to answer questions,
>>> stupid Mike.
>>>
>> So why did you deflect from the question?
>
> I didn't, stupid Mike. You're fabricating and lying,
> again, as that's what your Shit has trained you for.

Yes you did. Helmut asked you for your proof that SR isn't consistent
mathematically and logically. You even started this new thread that SR
isn't logically consistent. But you won't provide any proof but instead
asked how time was defined, deflecting from the question.
>
> Why did you remove where I
>> pointed out your deflection? I'll answer for you: Because you can't
>> prove that SR is consistent mathematically and logically.
>
> Nobody can prove anything to a religious crank, like Wabi
> (or yourself), as long as he's refusing even to answer questions,
> stupid Mike.

Try us.
>

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 15:29 UTC

On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 17:18:36 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 7/29/2021 11:08 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 17:00:15 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >> On 7/29/2021 10:36 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 15:43:46 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>> On 7/29/2021 1:40 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>>>> On Sunday, 25 July 2021 at 18:40:17 UTC+2, Helmut Wabnig wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Not even wrong. Einstein rather combined relativity and Maxwell's laws, and it is the latter that imply that the speed of light in vacuum is some specific constant. An immediate consequence is SR, which is not only patently consistent from a mathematical and even a logical point of view
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> A lie, as expected from fanatic trash, of course it is not.
> >>>>>> Wozi, prove it, faith does not work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wabi, poor idiot, you're a living proof that faith works
> >>>>> much better than any proofs. But tell me, please,
> >>>>> what was the unit of time your idiot guru was referring
> >>>>> to in 1905? How was it defined?
> >>>>>
> >>>> So you can't prove it. [You have to deflect by changing the argument..]
> >>>
> >>> Noone will prove anything to a religious crank like Wabi
> >>> (or yourself) as long as he's refusing even to answer questions,
> >>> stupid Mike.
> >>>
> >> So why did you deflect from the question?
> >
> > I didn't, stupid Mike. You're fabricating and lying,
> > again, as that's what your Shit has trained you for.
> Yes you did. Helmut asked you for your proof that SR isn't consistent

Of course; and I started this proof from asking him what is
the unit of time your idiot guru was referring in his Shit.
As he's going to never answer, my proof will not get further,
stupid Mike.

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 by: Odd Bodkin - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 16:05 UTC

Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote:
> On 7/29/2021 11:08 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 17:00:15 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>> On 7/29/2021 10:36 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 15:43:46 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>> On 7/29/2021 1:40 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, 25 July 2021 at 18:40:17 UTC+2, Helmut Wabnig wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not even wrong. Einstein rather combined relativity and Maxwell's
>>>>>>>>> laws, and it is the latter that imply that the speed of light in
>>>>>>>>> vacuum is some specific constant. An immediate consequence is SR,
>>>>>>>>> which is not only patently consistent from a mathematical and
>>>>>>>>> even a logical point of view
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A lie, as expected from fanatic trash, of course it is not.
>>>>>>> Wozi, prove it, faith does not work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wabi, poor idiot, you're a living proof that faith works
>>>>>> much better than any proofs. But tell me, please,
>>>>>> what was the unit of time your idiot guru was referring
>>>>>> to in 1905? How was it defined?
>>>>>>
>>>>> So you can't prove it. [You have to deflect by changing the argument.]
>>>>
>>>> Noone will prove anything to a religious crank like Wabi
>>>> (or yourself) as long as he's refusing even to answer questions,
>>>> stupid Mike.
>>>>
>>> So why did you deflect from the question?
>>
>> I didn't, stupid Mike. You're fabricating and lying,
>> again, as that's what your Shit has trained you for.
>
> Yes you did. Helmut asked you for your proof that SR isn't consistent
> mathematically and logically. You even started this new thread that SR
> isn't logically consistent. But you won't provide any proof but instead
> asked how time was defined, deflecting from the question.
>>
>> Why did you remove where I
>>> pointed out your deflection? I'll answer for you: Because you can't
>>> prove that SR is consistent mathematically and logically.
>>
>> Nobody can prove anything to a religious crank, like Wabi
>> (or yourself), as long as he's refusing even to answer questions,
>> stupid Mike.
>
> Try us.

He won’t, because he’s a chickenshit.
He will deflect, insisting that the only way that he can prove the
inconsistency is with a Socratic dialog, with him asking questions, with
the eventual promise that he’ll there, which he won’t. But he’ll have
consumed a lot of bandwidth to opportunistically bray at people.
If he were honest, he’d just forget the Socratic dialog crap and just come
out with his proof of inconsistency. Well, actually if he were honest, he
would flounder around and then confess that he doesn’t have such a proof of
inconsistency.

>>
>
>

--
Odd Bodkin -- maker of fine toys, tools, tables

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 by: Michael Moroney - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 16:37 UTC

On 7/29/2021 11:29 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 17:18:36 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> On 7/29/2021 11:08 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 17:00:15 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>> On 7/29/2021 10:36 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 15:43:46 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/29/2021 1:40 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, 25 July 2021 at 18:40:17 UTC+2, Helmut Wabnig wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not even wrong. Einstein rather combined relativity and Maxwell's laws, and it is the latter that imply that the speed of light in vacuum is some specific constant. An immediate consequence is SR, which is not only patently consistent from a mathematical and even a logical point of view
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A lie, as expected from fanatic trash, of course it is not.
>>>>>>>> Wozi, prove it, faith does not work.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wabi, poor idiot, you're a living proof that faith works
>>>>>>> much better than any proofs. But tell me, please,
>>>>>>> what was the unit of time your idiot guru was referring
>>>>>>> to in 1905? How was it defined?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you can't prove it. [You have to deflect by changing the argument.]
>>>>>
>>>>> Noone will prove anything to a religious crank like Wabi
>>>>> (or yourself) as long as he's refusing even to answer questions,
>>>>> stupid Mike.
>>>>>
>>>> So why did you deflect from the question?
>>>
>>> I didn't, stupid Mike. You're fabricating and lying,
>>> again, as that's what your Shit has trained you for.

>> Yes you did. Helmut asked you for your proof that SR isn't consistent
>
> Of course; and I started this proof from asking him

He asked YOU for your proof. You are supposed to answer the question,
not deflect by asking more. If you don't know the unit of time already
you shouldn't be claiming to have any proof, should you.

Go back to work. The second floor men's room is filthy, clean it.

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 18:02 UTC

On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 18:37:23 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 7/29/2021 11:29 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 17:18:36 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >> On 7/29/2021 11:08 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 17:00:15 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>> On 7/29/2021 10:36 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 15:43:46 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>>>> On 7/29/2021 1:40 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Sunday, 25 July 2021 at 18:40:17 UTC+2, Helmut Wabnig wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Not even wrong. Einstein rather combined relativity and Maxwell's laws, and it is the latter that imply that the speed of light in vacuum is some specific constant. An immediate consequence is SR, which is not only patently consistent from a mathematical and even a logical point of view
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> A lie, as expected from fanatic trash, of course it is not.
> >>>>>>>> Wozi, prove it, faith does not work.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Wabi, poor idiot, you're a living proof that faith works
> >>>>>>> much better than any proofs. But tell me, please,
> >>>>>>> what was the unit of time your idiot guru was referring
> >>>>>>> to in 1905? How was it defined?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> So you can't prove it. [You have to deflect by changing the argument.]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Noone will prove anything to a religious crank like Wabi
> >>>>> (or yourself) as long as he's refusing even to answer questions,
> >>>>> stupid Mike.
> >>>>>
> >>>> So why did you deflect from the question?
> >>>
> >>> I didn't, stupid Mike. You're fabricating and lying,
> >>> again, as that's what your Shit has trained you for.
>
> >> Yes you did. Helmut asked you for your proof that SR isn't consistent
> >
> > Of course; and I started this proof from asking him
> He asked YOU for your proof.

Of course; and I started this proof from asking him what is
the unit of time your idiot guru was referring in his Shit.
As he's going to never answer, my proof will not get further,
stupid Mike.

> You are supposed to answer the question,
> not deflect by asking more. If you don't know the unit of time already

Of course I know, stupid Mike. We've been talking
about it some time ago, remember? You tried to lie
about it and you were caught at it.

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 19:18 UTC

On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 20:02:43 UTC+2, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 18:37:23 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > On 7/29/2021 11:29 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > > On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 17:18:36 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > >> On 7/29/2021 11:08 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > >>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 17:00:15 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > >>>> On 7/29/2021 10:36 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > >>>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 15:43:46 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > >>>>>> On 7/29/2021 1:40 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > >>>>>>> On Sunday, 25 July 2021 at 18:40:17 UTC+2, Helmut Wabnig wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Not even wrong. Einstein rather combined relativity and Maxwell's laws, and it is the latter that imply that the speed of light in vacuum is some specific constant. An immediate consequence is SR, which is not only patently consistent from a mathematical and even a logical point of view
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> A lie, as expected from fanatic trash, of course it is not.
> > >>>>>>>> Wozi, prove it, faith does not work.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Wabi, poor idiot, you're a living proof that faith works
> > >>>>>>> much better than any proofs. But tell me, please,
> > >>>>>>> what was the unit of time your idiot guru was referring
> > >>>>>>> to in 1905? How was it defined?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> So you can't prove it. [You have to deflect by changing the argument.]
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Noone will prove anything to a religious crank like Wabi
> > >>>>> (or yourself) as long as he's refusing even to answer questions,
> > >>>>> stupid Mike.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> So why did you deflect from the question?
> > >>>
> > >>> I didn't, stupid Mike. You're fabricating and lying,
> > >>> again, as that's what your Shit has trained you for.
> >
> > >> Yes you did. Helmut asked you for your proof that SR isn't consistent
> > >
> > > Of course; and I started this proof from asking him
> > He asked YOU for your proof.
> Of course; and I started this proof from asking him what is
> the unit of time your idiot guru was referring in his Shit.
> As he's going to never answer, my proof will not get further,
> stupid Mike.
> > You are supposed to answer the question,
> > not deflect by asking more. If you don't know the unit of time already
> Of course I know, stupid Mike. We've been talking
> about it some time ago, remember? You tried to lie
> about it and you were caught at it.

And why did you try to lie, stupid Mike? I'll tell you:
because you know your Shit is very vulnerable to
even basic logic and you hope your lies will protect it.

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 by: Michael Moroney - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 19:37 UTC

On 7/29/2021 3:18 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 20:02:43 UTC+2, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 18:37:23 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>> On 7/29/2021 11:29 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 17:18:36 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>> On 7/29/2021 11:08 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 17:00:15 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/29/2021 10:36 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 15:43:46 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/29/2021 1:40 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 25 July 2021 at 18:40:17 UTC+2, Helmut Wabnig wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not even wrong. Einstein rather combined relativity and Maxwell's laws, and it is the latter that imply that the speed of light in vacuum is some specific constant. An immediate consequence is SR, which is not only patently consistent from a mathematical and even a logical point of view
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A lie, as expected from fanatic trash, of course it is not.
>>>>>>>>>>> Wozi, prove it, faith does not work.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Wabi, poor idiot, you're a living proof that faith works
>>>>>>>>>> much better than any proofs. But tell me, please,
>>>>>>>>>> what was the unit of time your idiot guru was referring
>>>>>>>>>> to in 1905? How was it defined?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So you can't prove it. [You have to deflect by changing the argument.]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Noone will prove anything to a religious crank like Wabi
>>>>>>>> (or yourself) as long as he's refusing even to answer questions,
>>>>>>>> stupid Mike.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So why did you deflect from the question?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't, stupid Mike. You're fabricating and lying,
>>>>>> again, as that's what your Shit has trained you for.
>>>
>>>>> Yes you did. Helmut asked you for your proof that SR isn't consistent
>>>>
>>>> Of course; and I started this proof from asking him

>>> He asked YOU for your proof.

>> Of course; and I started this proof from asking him what is
>> the unit of time your idiot guru was referring in his Shit.

Any valid proof SR isn't consistent is not going to depend on what
Helmut thinks the unit of time is.

>> As he's going to never answer, my proof will not get further,

Of course not. That's your ready made excuse for being unable to supply
a proof that SR is inconsistent.

>>> You are supposed to answer the question,
>>> not deflect by asking more. If you don't know the unit of time already

>> Of course I know, stupid Mike. We've been talking
>> about it some time ago, remember? You tried to lie
>> about it and you were caught at it.
>
> And why did you try to lie, stupid Mike? I'll tell you:
> because you know your Shit is very vulnerable to
> even basic logic and you hope your lies will protect it.

I have no idea what you think I was lying about, other than if you think
I was lying, I was probably correct.
>

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On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 21:37:41 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 7/29/2021 3:18 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 20:02:43 UTC+2, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 18:37:23 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>> On 7/29/2021 11:29 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 17:18:36 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>>> On 7/29/2021 11:08 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 17:00:15 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 7/29/2021 10:36 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 15:43:46 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 7/29/2021 1:40 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 25 July 2021 at 18:40:17 UTC+2, Helmut Wabnig wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Not even wrong. Einstein rather combined relativity and Maxwell's laws, and it is the latter that imply that the speed of light in vacuum is some specific constant. An immediate consequence is SR, which is not only patently consistent from a mathematical and even a logical point of view
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> A lie, as expected from fanatic trash, of course it is not.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Wozi, prove it, faith does not work.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Wabi, poor idiot, you're a living proof that faith works
> >>>>>>>>>> much better than any proofs. But tell me, please,
> >>>>>>>>>> what was the unit of time your idiot guru was referring
> >>>>>>>>>> to in 1905? How was it defined?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So you can't prove it. [You have to deflect by changing the argument.]
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Noone will prove anything to a religious crank like Wabi
> >>>>>>>> (or yourself) as long as he's refusing even to answer questions,
> >>>>>>>> stupid Mike.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So why did you deflect from the question?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I didn't, stupid Mike. You're fabricating and lying,
> >>>>>> again, as that's what your Shit has trained you for.
> >>>
> >>>>> Yes you did. Helmut asked you for your proof that SR isn't consistent
> >>>>
> >>>> Of course; and I started this proof from asking him
>
> >>> He asked YOU for your proof.
>
> >> Of course; and I started this proof from asking him what is
> >> the unit of time your idiot guru was referring in his Shit.
> Any valid proof SR isn't consistent is not going to depend on what
> Helmut thinks the unit of time is.

But whether poor idiot Helmut will or will not
take this proof - does, stupid Mike.

> > And why did you try to lie, stupid Mike? I'll tell you:
> > because you know your Shit is very vulnerable to
> > even basic logic and you hope your lies will protect it.
> I have no idea what you think I was lying about, other than if you think
> I was lying, I was probably correct.

No, stupid Mike. You've said your idiot guru in 1905 was using
the definition of second invented in 1950, or later. A stupid lie
from stupid Mike.

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 by: Michael Moroney - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 20:15 UTC

On 7/29/2021 4:03 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 21:37:41 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> On 7/29/2021 3:18 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 20:02:43 UTC+2, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 18:37:23 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>> On 7/29/2021 11:29 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 17:18:36 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/29/2021 11:08 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 17:00:15 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/29/2021 10:36 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 15:43:46 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/29/2021 1:40 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 25 July 2021 at 18:40:17 UTC+2, Helmut Wabnig wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not even wrong. Einstein rather combined relativity and Maxwell's laws, and it is the latter that imply that the speed of light in vacuum is some specific constant. An immediate consequence is SR, which is not only patently consistent from a mathematical and even a logical point of view
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A lie, as expected from fanatic trash, of course it is not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wozi, prove it, faith does not work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wabi, poor idiot, you're a living proof that faith works
>>>>>>>>>>>> much better than any proofs. But tell me, please,
>>>>>>>>>>>> what was the unit of time your idiot guru was referring
>>>>>>>>>>>> to in 1905? How was it defined?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So you can't prove it. [You have to deflect by changing the argument.]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Noone will prove anything to a religious crank like Wabi
>>>>>>>>>> (or yourself) as long as he's refusing even to answer questions,
>>>>>>>>>> stupid Mike.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So why did you deflect from the question?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I didn't, stupid Mike. You're fabricating and lying,
>>>>>>>> again, as that's what your Shit has trained you for.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes you did. Helmut asked you for your proof that SR isn't consistent
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course; and I started this proof from asking him
>>
>>>>> He asked YOU for your proof.
>>
>>>> Of course; and I started this proof from asking him what is
>>>> the unit of time your idiot guru was referring in his Shit.
>> Any valid proof SR isn't consistent is not going to depend on what
>> Helmut thinks the unit of time is.
>
> But whether poor idiot Helmut will or will not
> take this proof - does, stupid Mike.

Whether SR is inconsistent depends on whether Helmut responds? I don't
think so!
>
>>> And why did you try to lie, stupid Mike? I'll tell you:
>>> because you know your Shit is very vulnerable to
>>> even basic logic and you hope your lies will protect it.
>> I have no idea what you think I was lying about, other than if you think
>> I was lying, I was probably correct.
>
> No, stupid Mike. You've said your idiot guru in 1905 was using
> the definition of second invented in 1950, or later. A stupid lie
> from stupid Mike.

I don't have an idiot guru but you seem to refer to what I said Einstein
used for the second's definition and someone else corrected that.
That's called a "mistake". Lies are deliberate falsehoods.

Let me guess: Whether SR is consistent depends on whether Helmut makes a
mistake in the second's definition. Am I right? See what I said earlier.
>

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Thu, 29 Jul 2021 20:31 UTC

On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 22:15:47 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 7/29/2021 4:03 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 21:37:41 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >> On 7/29/2021 3:18 PM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 20:02:43 UTC+2, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 18:37:23 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>>> On 7/29/2021 11:29 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 17:18:36 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 7/29/2021 11:08 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 17:00:15 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 7/29/2021 10:36 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, 29 July 2021 at 15:43:46 UTC+2, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 7/29/2021 1:40 AM, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, 25 July 2021 at 18:40:17 UTC+2, Helmut Wabnig wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not even wrong. Einstein rather combined relativity and Maxwell's laws, and it is the latter that imply that the speed of light in vacuum is some specific constant. An immediate consequence is SR, which is not only patently consistent from a mathematical and even a logical point of view
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A lie, as expected from fanatic trash, of course it is not..
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wozi, prove it, faith does not work.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Wabi, poor idiot, you're a living proof that faith works
> >>>>>>>>>>>> much better than any proofs. But tell me, please,
> >>>>>>>>>>>> what was the unit of time your idiot guru was referring
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to in 1905? How was it defined?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> So you can't prove it. [You have to deflect by changing the argument.]
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Noone will prove anything to a religious crank like Wabi
> >>>>>>>>>> (or yourself) as long as he's refusing even to answer questions,
> >>>>>>>>>> stupid Mike.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So why did you deflect from the question?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I didn't, stupid Mike. You're fabricating and lying,
> >>>>>>>> again, as that's what your Shit has trained you for.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yes you did. Helmut asked you for your proof that SR isn't consistent
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Of course; and I started this proof from asking him
> >>
> >>>>> He asked YOU for your proof.
> >>
> >>>> Of course; and I started this proof from asking him what is
> >>>> the unit of time your idiot guru was referring in his Shit.
> >> Any valid proof SR isn't consistent is not going to depend on what
> >> Helmut thinks the unit of time is.
> >
> > But whether poor idiot Helmut will or will not
> > take this proof - does, stupid Mike.
> Whether SR is inconsistent depends on whether Helmut responds? I don't
> think so!

No, The Shit is inconsistent whatever him or you responds; still
if he doesn't respond explaining it to him is a waste of time.

> > No, stupid Mike. You've said your idiot guru in 1905 was using
> > the definition of second invented in 1950, or later. A stupid lie
> > from stupid Mike.
> I don't have an idiot guru but you seem to refer to what I said Einstein
> used for the second's definition and someone else corrected that.

Someone else was me.

> That's called a "mistake".

By you, stupid Mike. I call it differently.

> Let me guess: Whether SR is consistent depends on whether Helmut makes a
> mistake in the second's definition. Am I right?

Of course not, stupid Mike; you're an idiot
and your guesses are worthless.

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