https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2022/09/23/rad-power-bikes-issues-2-stop-ride-notices-radwagon-4-e-bikes#.Yzrn3BKNWOI
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Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 6:47:44 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2022/09/23/rad-power-bikes-issues-2-stop-ride-notices-radwagon-4-e-bikes#.Yzrn3BKNWOI

I'm still trying to get my mind around people buying e-bikes so that they can keep up with faster riders.

On 10/3/2022 9:43 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
> On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 6:47:44 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>> https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2022/09/23/rad-power-bikes-issues-2-stop-ride-notices-radwagon-4-e-bikes#.Yzrn3BKNWOI
>
> I'm still trying to get my mind around people buying e-bikes so that they can keep up with faster riders.
>

Electric powered bicycles can be safer than Maseratis:

https://nypost.com/2022/08/14/two-florida-teens-in-maserati-die-while-fleeing-cops/

Or not. Depends.

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Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 6:47:44 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>> https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2022/09/23/rad-power-bikes-issues-2-stop-ride-notices-radwagon-4-e-bikes#.Yzrn3BKNWOI
>>
>
> I'm still trying to get my mind around people buying e-bikes so that they
> can keep up with faster riders.
>
Seems to be cargo bikes even the off road bikes seems less performance
focused ie step through bikes.

Roger Merriman

On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 20:01:59 -0000 (UTC), Roger Merriman
<roger@sarlet.com> wrote:

>Tom Kunich <cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 6:47:44 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>>> https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2022/09/23/rad-power-bikes-issues-2-stop-ride-notices-radwagon-4-e-bikes#.Yzrn3BKNWOI
>>>
>>
>> I'm still trying to get my mind around people buying e-bikes so that they
>> can keep up with faster riders.
>>
>Seems to be cargo bikes even the off road bikes seems less performance
>focused ie step through bikes.
>
>Roger Merriman

Saw several of them on my ride today. Some of them are obvious, but
some are designed to try to camouflage the electrification. It doesn't
work, however, because when I see somebody sitting bolt upright on a
heavy fat tired bike running 16+MPH but only peddling 40 RPM, it's
obvious. One of them actually waved to me today pretending that he was
a real bicyclist. I didn't wave back, but then I never wave back to
riders who take their hands off the bar to wave. The roadies on my
regular trail always wave a couple of fingers to me, and I return the
favor. Grandparent types tend to vocalize, but my left ear is near
deaf and I only hear wind noise in my right.

On 10/3/2022 6:53 PM, Catrike Rider wrote:
> One of them actually waved to me today pretending that he was
> a real bicyclist. I didn't wave back, but then I never wave back to
> riders who take their hands off the bar to wave.

:-) So riding with one hand is scary too!

SO timid!

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- Frank Krygowski

On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 19:22:49 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 10/3/2022 6:53 PM, Catrike Rider wrote:
>> One of them actually waved to me today pretending that he was
>> a real bicyclist. I didn't wave back, but then I never wave back to
>> riders who take their hands off the bar to wave.
>
>:-) So riding with one hand is scary too!
>
>SO timid!

No, actually I just don't like overexuberant people who act like
they're my friend. It interferes with my biking state of mind.

On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 6:53:41 PM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 20:01:59 -0000 (UTC), Roger Merriman
> <ro...@sarlet.com> wrote:
>
> >Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 6:47:44 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
> >>> https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2022/09/23/rad-power-bikes-issues-2-stop-ride-notices-radwagon-4-e-bikes#.Yzrn3BKNWOI
> >>>
> >>
> >> I'm still trying to get my mind around people buying e-bikes so that they
> >> can keep up with faster riders.
> >>
> >Seems to be cargo bikes even the off road bikes seems less performance
> >focused ie step through bikes.
> >
> >Roger Merriman
> Saw several of them on my ride today. Some of them are obvious, but
> some are designed to try to camouflage the electrification. It doesn't
> work, however, because when I see somebody sitting bolt upright on a
> heavy fat tired bike running 16+MPH but only peddling 40 RPM, it's
> obvious. One of them actually waved to me today pretending that he was
> a real bicyclist. I didn't wave back, but then I never wave back to
> riders who take their hands off the bar to wave.

So we have yet another common cycling technique easily mastered by the vast majority of riders that you refuse to engage in for .....some weird reason.

I've always considered riders who very clearly see me but don't wave back to be arrogant assholes that I wouldn't want for friends anyways. Not that I didn't already know you were part of that club.

> The roadies on my
> regular trail always wave a couple of fingers to me, and I return the
> favor.

Look more closely next time, they aren't giving you two fingers, just one.

On Tue, 4 Oct 2022 03:08:11 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 6:53:41 PM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 20:01:59 -0000 (UTC), Roger Merriman
>> <ro...@sarlet.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Tom Kunich <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Monday, October 3, 2022 at 6:47:44 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
>> >>> https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2022/09/23/rad-power-bikes-issues-2-stop-ride-notices-radwagon-4-e-bikes#.Yzrn3BKNWOI
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> I'm still trying to get my mind around people buying e-bikes so that they
>> >> can keep up with faster riders.
>> >>
>> >Seems to be cargo bikes even the off road bikes seems less performance
>> >focused ie step through bikes.
>> >
>> >Roger Merriman
>> Saw several of them on my ride today. Some of them are obvious, but
>> some are designed to try to camouflage the electrification. It doesn't
>> work, however, because when I see somebody sitting bolt upright on a
>> heavy fat tired bike running 16+MPH but only peddling 40 RPM, it's
>> obvious. One of them actually waved to me today pretending that he was
>> a real bicyclist. I didn't wave back, but then I never wave back to
>> riders who take their hands off the bar to wave.
>
>So we have yet another common cycling technique easily mastered by the vast majority of riders that you refuse to engage in for .....some weird reason.
>
>I've always considered riders who very clearly see me but don't wave back to be arrogant assholes that I wouldn't want for friends anyways. Not that I didn't already know you were part of that club.

What you consider isn't an issue

> > The roadies on my
>> regular trail always wave a couple of fingers to me, and I return the
>> favor.
>
>Look more closely next time, they aren't giving you two fingers, just one.
>

Most of the roadies around here are good decent people and smart
enough to use the trails instead of blocking vehicle traffic. Very
rarely do I see highway bicyclists around here, and almost always
hugging the far right of the road. There are so many good bike trails
around here...