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 by: jason - Wed, 2 Nov 2022 17:31 UTC

I have a 10EE I purchased from a Government Auction in mint condition. If someone is looking for one I will make them an excellent deal. Located in California

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 by: Bob La Londe - Wed, 2 Nov 2022 19:15 UTC

On 11/2/2022 10:31 AM, jason wrote:
> I have a 10EE I purchased from a Government Auction in mint condition.
> If someone is looking for one I will make them an excellent deal.
> Located in California
>

That sounds awesome except I don't think you could make it excellent to
fit my budget right now.

Still, I am sure I'm not the only one who would love to see some pictures.

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 by: Richard Smith - Thu, 3 Nov 2022 05:48 UTC

Anyone know what those lathes were used for?
I looked up the electrical side - continuously monitored and
continuously varible speed using various "valve-like" devices
pre-electronics - and wondered it it was for turning spherical objects
in "awkward" alloys?

I had a mind's-eye vision of shortly post WW2 in the new upbeat
prosperity decendents of "rust-belt" immigrant factory workers in the
new South-West (California, etc.), living the dream, in
cigarette-smoke-filled offices telling the Government whether certain
components could be made and what they'd need - as fitments to the
10EE.

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 by: Jim Wilkins - Thu, 3 Nov 2022 11:37 UTC

"Richard Smith" wrote in message news:lyiljw7fmo.fsf@void.com...

Anyone know what those lathes were used for?
I looked up the electrical side - continuously monitored and
continuously varible speed using various "valve-like" devices
pre-electronics - and wondered it it was for turning spherical objects
in "awkward" alloys?

I had a mind's-eye vision of shortly post WW2 in the new upbeat
prosperity decendents of "rust-belt" immigrant factory workers in the
new South-West (California, etc.), living the dream, in
cigarette-smoke-filled offices telling the Government whether certain
components could be made and what they'd need - as fitments to the
10EE.

-------------------

I saw a large Monarch at an auction that was said to have made torpedos.
They are highly regarded as competing with the Hardinge HLV as the finest
precision lathes for instrument work.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/05/gears-of-war-when-mechanical-analog-computers-ruled-the-waves/

According to a no longer available article by Jim Kizale the Hardinge
replaced the South Bend Heavy 10 like mine at the US National Bureau of
Standards. He thought the South Bend was more versatile and nearly as
accurate. Mine unfortunately went to a trade school where it was abused,
though I've made some military and space program prototypes on it.

http://www.lathes.co.uk/monarch/index.html

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 by: Bob La Londe - Thu, 3 Nov 2022 19:58 UTC

On 11/3/2022 4:37 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> "Richard Smith"  wrote in message news:lyiljw7fmo.fsf@void.com...
>
> Anyone know what those lathes were used for?
> I looked up the electrical side - continuously monitored and
> continuously varible speed using various "valve-like" devices
> pre-electronics - and wondered it it was for turning spherical objects
> in "awkward" alloys?
>
> I had a mind's-eye vision of shortly post WW2 in the new upbeat
> prosperity decendents of "rust-belt" immigrant factory workers in the
> new South-West (California, etc.), living the dream, in
> cigarette-smoke-filled offices telling the Government whether certain
> components could be made and what they'd need - as fitments to the
> 10EE.
>
> -------------------
>
> I saw a large Monarch at an auction that was said to have made torpedos.
> They are highly regarded as competing with the Hardinge HLV as the
> finest precision lathes for instrument work.
> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/05/gears-of-war-when-mechanical-analog-computers-ruled-the-waves/
>
> According to a no longer available article by Jim Kizale the Hardinge
> replaced the South Bend Heavy 10 like mine at the US National Bureau of
> Standards. He thought the South Bend was more versatile and nearly as
> accurate. Mine unfortunately went to a trade school where it was abused,
> though I've made some military and space program prototypes on it.
>
> http://www.lathes.co.uk/monarch/index.html

Interesting, "In early 2021, Hardinge moved the manufacture of our
Bridgeport® Vertical Machining Centers and Hardinge® CNC Lathes from
Taiwan to Elmira, NY. This move allowed us to consolidate product
development, supply chain, and assembly operations for Hardinge’s
Americas and Europe turning and milling business to a single U.S.-based
location."

I had heard Hardinge had been off shored. It looks like they moved
back. I noticed the quote only refers to their CNC machines. Not the
rest of their product line.

Where as I think Monarch has never been off shored.

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 by: Richard Smith - Thu, 3 Nov 2022 22:46 UTC

"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:

> http://www.lathes.co.uk/monarch/index.html

FWIW
I know the fellow who provides that website, and I am only about 3
miles from where he is based at this moment.

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 by: Jim Wilkins - Fri, 4 Nov 2022 10:41 UTC

"Richard Smith" wrote in message news:lytu3fzme7.fsf@void.com...

"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:

> http://www.lathes.co.uk/monarch/index.html

FWIW
I know the fellow who provides that website, and I am only about 3
miles from where he is based at this moment.

----------------------

He's done a very impressive and thorough job with that website. I'm the
person who recently asked him if he could identify what appears to be a
small precision lathe headstock with a "Burnerd" chuck, then I caught RSV
and didn't respond for his request for photos until I recovered.

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 by: Richard Smith - Sat, 5 Nov 2022 22:09 UTC

"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:

> "Richard Smith" wrote in message news:lytu3fzme7.fsf@void.com...
>
> "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> http://www.lathes.co.uk/monarch/index.html
>
> FWIW
> I know the fellow who provides that website, and I am only about 3
> miles from where he is based at this moment.
>
> ----------------------
>
> He's done a very impressive and thorough job with that website. I'm
> the person who recently asked him if he could identify what appears to
> be a small precision lathe headstock with a "Burnerd" chuck, then I
> caught RSV and didn't respond for his request for photos until I
> recovered.

Did you send your apologies?
I could drop-by and mention you if you want...

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 by: Jim Wilkins - Sun, 6 Nov 2022 12:24 UTC

"Richard Smith" wrote in message news:lyk049yrx3.fsf@void.com...

"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:

> "Richard Smith" wrote in message news:lytu3fzme7.fsf@void.com...
>
> "Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> http://www.lathes.co.uk/monarch/index.html
>
> FWIW
> I know the fellow who provides that website, and I am only about 3
> miles from where he is based at this moment.
>
> ----------------------
>
> He's done a very impressive and thorough job with that website. I'm
> the person who recently asked him if he could identify what appears to
> be a small precision lathe headstock with a "Burnerd" chuck, then I
> caught RSV and didn't respond for his request for photos until I
> recovered.

Did you send your apologies?
I could drop-by and mention you if you want...

---------------

That's OK, the origin of the part isn't important unless it turns out to be
valuable for someone else's restoration project. I was hoping he could
immediately identify it by its unusual 7/8" - 38 TPI chuck mounting thread
and not need to waste time researching it. The 38 TPI thread gauge fits
better than the nearest metric ones. I don't even know that it's a lathe
headstock versus an accessory.

I planned to adapt it to my Sears AA lathe, or else turn a stiffer solid
spindle for the AA. After I acquired a South Bend the little lathe has
served only for high speed polishing and drilling small deep grease holes in
axles.
jsw

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 by: Richard Smith - Fri, 11 Nov 2022 08:18 UTC

"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> writes:

> He's done a very impressive and thorough job with that website. I'm
> the person who recently asked him if he could identify what appears to
> be a small precision lathe headstock with a "Burnerd" chuck, then I
> caught RSV and didn't respond for his request for photos until I
> recovered.

I called by and passed on your thanks.

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