I've recommended that if you have had at least one vaccination that you never get another one. The beauty of this is that the stupid six will rush out to get that second or third or fourth shot.

https://thescienceanalyst.substack.com/p/are-we-witnessing-a-depopulation

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:36:50 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>I've recommended that if you have had at least one vaccination that you never get another one. The beauty of this is that the stupid six will rush out to get that second or third or fourth shot.
>
>https://thescienceanalyst.substack.com/p/are-we-witnessing-a-depopulation

The Twitter graph doesn't match TODAYS reality and conveniently only
shows up to Feb 2022. The date on the Twitter graph is Jan 18, 2022
(lower left of image):
<https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F211a735d-8f4f-44f8-b274-c64b43695fdc_525x767.png>
Yes, there was a spike in new cases during Jan-Feb 2022 which is now
ancient history.

Current data/graphs for:
Israel:
<https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/>
USA:
<https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/>
Australia:
<https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/>
EU:
(nothing easily available)

I really like the author's Twitter graph using Israel as an example of
vaccination effectiveness. Israel tends to have a large number of
visitors during the late December holiday season. One might expect a
surge of Covid cases a month or so later. Probably the same for other
countries.

BTW, I received my bivalent 3rd booster shot about a month ago. The
next day, ache in the injection site, slight fever, a little tired,
and an irresistible compulsion to buy things on eBay. Hopefully,
there won't be a 4th booster needed:
"The highly immune-evasive XBB COVID variant has been identified in 26
countries..."
<https://fortune.com/well/2022/10/20/xbb-covid-omicron-variant-identified-26-countries-who-world-health-organization-pandemic/>
<https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-variants-area?country=%7EUSA>

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PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 12:47:02 PM UTC-4, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:36:50 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I've recommended that if you have had at least one vaccination that you never get another one. The beauty of this is that the stupid six will rush out to get that second or third or fourth shot.
> >
> >https://thescienceanalyst.substack.com/p/are-we-witnessing-a-depopulation
> The Twitter graph doesn't match TODAYS reality and conveniently only
> shows up to Feb 2022. The date on the Twitter graph is Jan 18, 2022
> (lower left of image):
> <https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F211a735d-8f4f-44f8-b274-c64b43695fdc_525x767.png>
> Yes, there was a spike in new cases during Jan-Feb 2022 which is now
> ancient history.
>
> Current data/graphs for:
> Israel:
> <https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/>
> USA:
> <https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/>
> Australia:
> <https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/>
> EU:
> (nothing easily available)
>
> I really like the author's Twitter graph using Israel as an example of
> vaccination effectiveness. Israel tends to have a large number of
> visitors during the late December holiday season. One might expect a
> surge of Covid cases a month or so later. Probably the same for other
> countries.
>
> BTW, I received my bivalent 3rd booster shot about a month ago. The
> next day, ache in the injection site, slight fever, a little tired,
> and an irresistible compulsion to buy things on eBay. Hopefully,
> there won't be a 4th booster needed:
> "The highly immune-evasive XBB COVID variant has been identified in 26
> countries..."
> <https://fortune.com/well/2022/10/20/xbb-covid-omicron-variant-identified-26-countries-who-world-health-organization-pandemic/>
> <https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-variants-area?country=%7EUSA>
> %
> --
> Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

So the US averages about 1.1% mortality, compated to .25% for Israel and .15% for Australia? Interesting. Vaccinations?

Still, US infant mortality is 5.8/1000, while Israel is 3.1 and Australia 3.3.

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 1:14:01 PM UTC-7, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 12:47:02 PM UTC-4, jeff.li...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:36:50 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >I've recommended that if you have had at least one vaccination that you never get another one. The beauty of this is that the stupid six will rush out to get that second or third or fourth shot.
> > >
> > >https://thescienceanalyst.substack.com/p/are-we-witnessing-a-depopulation
> > The Twitter graph doesn't match TODAYS reality and conveniently only
> > shows up to Feb 2022. The date on the Twitter graph is Jan 18, 2022
> > (lower left of image):
> > <https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_webp,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fbucketeer-e05bbc84-baa3-437e-9518-adb32be77984.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F211a735d-8f4f-44f8-b274-c64b43695fdc_525x767.png>
> > Yes, there was a spike in new cases during Jan-Feb 2022 which is now
> > ancient history.
> >
> > Current data/graphs for:
> > Israel:
> > <https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/>
> > USA:
> > <https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/>
> > Australia:
> > <https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/>
> > EU:
> > (nothing easily available)
> >
> > I really like the author's Twitter graph using Israel as an example of
> > vaccination effectiveness. Israel tends to have a large number of
> > visitors during the late December holiday season. One might expect a
> > surge of Covid cases a month or so later. Probably the same for other
> > countries.
> >
> > BTW, I received my bivalent 3rd booster shot about a month ago. The
> > next day, ache in the injection site, slight fever, a little tired,
> > and an irresistible compulsion to buy things on eBay. Hopefully,
> > there won't be a 4th booster needed:
> > "The highly immune-evasive XBB COVID variant has been identified in 26
> > countries..."
> > <https://fortune.com/well/2022/10/20/xbb-covid-omicron-variant-identified-26-countries-who-world-health-organization-pandemic/>
> > <https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/covid-variants-area?country=%7EUSA>
> > %
> > --
> > Jeff Liebermann je...@cruzio.com
> > PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> > Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
> > Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
> So the US averages about 1.1% mortality, compated to .25% for Israel and ..15% for Australia? Interesting. Vaccinations?
>
> Still, US infant mortality is 5.8/1000, while Israel is 3.1 and Australia 3.3.

You have to be very careful of ANY "facts" that come from Liebermann. In 2020 BEFORE there were any vaccines the death rate for 60-69 citizens was 0.71% and for children 1-18 it was 0.001%. These numbers are insignificant and much lower than a bad flu year even for older people. So why was the economy shut down? The numbers of people who died in the states that refused to close down their economy was the same as those who kissed Fauci's ass, shut the economy, and demanded vaccination to work and masking.

What all of this meant was that the CDC overrepresented the numbers of people that were dying by 100% of the actual value. Liebermann came up with some stupid numbers of people that were dying in Florida. He made NO allowance for the fact that older people died in larger numbers (from comorbidities bothered by covid-19 and NOT covid-19 killing them) and that Florida is a Retirement State that has a much higher percentage of older people with comorbidities.

The only reasons I can assume that he made these obvious mistakes were that he would argue about anything I said or that he is frightened that the covid-19 vaccines are showing more and more that they are FAR more dangerous than the disease.

At least a dozen times I have shown that the CDC statistics page shows that only 8,800 people died of covid-19 alone and not from comorbidities such as insipient heart failure.

"There were 2,320 total reports of myocarditis in VAERS from 1990 to Oct. 27, 2021, according to the CDC. Reports of myocarditis and pericarditis have increased since the rollout of COVID-19 vaccines, with 1,005 cases confirmed, but a link to the shots has so far not been established."

No link? It is important to note that MOST cases of fatal myocarditis are simply reported as heart failure. This occurred to a riding partner. He was forced to get a vaccination by his home owners association and then a week later as we started a ride he dropped dead.

As for infant mortality: the higher rates in the US are from illegal aliens that have never had any medical care until they came to the USA and that was too late. Because of the infant mortality that is a self selection program for illegal aliens who tend to live longer than the average US citizen who drinks too much, smokes too much and gets too little sleep.

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 5:03:52 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> As for infant mortality: the higher rates in the US are from illegal aliens that have never had any medical care until they came to the USA and that was too late. Because of >the infant mortality that is a self selection program for illegal aliens who tend to live longer than the average US citizen who drinks too much, smokes too much and gets >too little sleep.

It doesn't surprise me that you make stuff up.

It saddens me to think WHAT must go in in your head. Like a certain category of fundamentalist, you seem to define your entire identity by what you hate.

On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 2:31:11 PM UTC-7, timoth...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, October 29, 2022 at 5:03:52 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > As for infant mortality: the higher rates in the US are from illegal aliens that have never had any medical care until they came to the USA and that was too late. Because of >the infant mortality that is a self selection program for illegal aliens who tend to live longer than the average US citizen who drinks too much, smokes too much and gets >too little sleep.
> It doesn't surprise me that you make stuff up.
>
> It saddens me to think WHAT must go in in your head. Like a certain category of fundamentalist, you seem to define your entire identity by what you hate.

Tim, illegal aliens use about HALF of the medical care that US citizens do. If you look up studies none of them note that despite this, they have longer lives than US citizens. Instead they say that the USA should pay for better medical care. Why do you suppose that the European immigrants to the US lived so damn long? My grandfather lived to 88 and my grandmother well into their 90's. None of their children made it out of their 70's It was nothing more than selection when the weakest die off young, the strong are left.

I don't have any idea what triggered you when the facts are incontrovertible.

The average age of death in the USA is 77,28 while the average age of death in Mexico is 75 which counts the child deaths. 1% of the births in Mexico die at or shortly after birth. That is TWICE the rate of the US and in the US, the death rates are almost entirely from incurable diseases. In Mexico and the rest of Latin America it is weakness generally due to semi famine.

This is the same reason that blacks tended to live longer than whites of the same economic group. The way my mind works is simple. I look at the charts and reach the obvious conclusions. Survival of the Fittest. Or perhaps you're not willing to accept Charle's Darwin's theories?

On Sun, 30 Oct 2022 11:28:53 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
<cyclintom@gmail.com> wrote:

>...illegal aliens use about HALF of the medical care that US citizens do. If you look up studies none of them note that despite this, they have longer lives than US citizens. Instead they say that the USA should pay for better medical care. Why do you suppose that the European immigrants to the US lived so damn long?

"HALF"? Why don't YOU look up some studies that substantiate your
claims? As an added incentive, I'll use Google search to find a
better reference demonstrating that you contrived your amazing facts.

From UCLA Health, 2009:
"The True Healthcare Costs of Undocumented Immigrants"
<https://www.uclahealth.org/u-magazine/the-true-healthcare-costs-of-undocumented-immigrants>
""The great majority of the undocumented in California are working-age
adults who contribute greatly to California’s economy by working in
physically demanding service, agriculture and construction jobs," Dr.
Pourat says. "It makes financial sense to make sure they have
affordable health-coverage options so they can stay healthy.""

"In 2009, California was home to more than 2.2-million undocumented
immigrants, the study found. And while these immigrants make up 6.8
percent of California’s residents, they represent nearly a quarter of
the state’s uninsured population."

No mention of costs, but unless the 25% of uninsured California
residents has major medical problems (which is unlikely or they
wouldn't be working), they're not going to consume "HALF" of
California's, or the nations, medical care costs.\

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

On 10/30/2022 2:28 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
>
> Tim, illegal aliens use about HALF of the medical care that US citizens do.

Wow. Just... wow. Tom, you're a wonder!

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Sunday, October 30, 2022 at 2:28:55 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> The way my mind works is simple.

Finally, something we can all agree on.