On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 12:40:04 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> On 10/21/2022 10:38 AM, Catrike Rider wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> > <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:12:07 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:05:48 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 6:59:43 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 06:44:26 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 12:43:20 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
> >>>>>>> On 10/19/2022 11:15 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 11:51:42 AM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On 10/18/2022 9:11 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Any taxpayer can make a gift to any other taxpayer of up to $16,000 per
> >>>>>>>>>> year with no tax consequences to either. Unless there's a contract, the
> >>>>>>>>>> receiver can do whatever he damned well pleases with that, or any other
> >>>>>>>>>> unregulated money.
> >>>>>>>>> That's an overly legalistic answer.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Saying "I haven't eaten in three days. Please give me food money," then
> >>>>>>>>> spending it on drugs is dishonest and immoral, even if no contract was
> >>>>>>>>> signed.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Saying "Please give money for my legal defense" then spending it on
> >>>>>>>>> golf, mistresses, gold plated toilets or whatever is also dishonest and
> >>>>>>>>> immoral, even if no contract was signed.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Was this OK andrew?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Until now that's an unsupported accusation. Appalling if
> >>>>>>> true but I'll wait to decide.
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>> DEar gawd Andrew, it is _not_ unsupported. There was enough evidence to hand down an indictment, and trump issued a pardon on the federal charges. There is currently another indictment on the state level. They general don't indict people for felonies without the charges being substantiated.
> >>>>> As New York Judge Sol Wachtler said in 1985, “If a district attorney
> >>>>> wanted, a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich.”
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Grand juries are the prosecutor’s babies. They decide who gets picked,
> >>>>> what evidence gets presented, and what gets left out. There’s no
> >>>>> judge, no defense attorney, and generally a defendant only testifies
> >>>>> in rare circumstances — his story is so air tight that there’s no down
> >>>>> side in putting him in. There’s no necessity for unanimity among the
> >>>>> 23 or so jurors, and the standard of proof is so low — that probable
> >>>>> cause exists to believe a crime has been committed — anyone, for the
> >>>>> merest hint of an offense, can get indicted.
> >>>>
> >>>> You aren't expecting Flunky to know anything about this are you?
> >>> His rhetoric clearly indicates that he does not....
> >>
> >> Sure kitty, Ask Bannon's co-defendants in the federal case, Kolfage and Badolato, who have both already pleaded guilty, if the indictment was legit or not. They have the evidence of the money transfers from the "charity" into all three of their personal accounts along with expenses for boats, trips and entertainment charged to the accounts. Bannon is the only one of the three who claims he did nothing wrong, and rubes like you and kunich are too blinded by political ideology to think he might actually have committed a crime.
> >>
> >> Are there plentiful examples of prosecutorial misconduct vis dubious indictments? sure. This isn't one of them.
> >
> > As always, you opinion is insignificant.. Oh, yes, before you ask,
> > mine is insignificant, too.
> I note the sudden switch from "It's not proven" to "OK, it's proven but
> it doesn't matter (because I like their political party)."
>
That shouldn't be surprising, he also went from "there is no per diem allowance" to "there is but it's just a recommendation", which I also just proved to him is wrong.

On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:38:58 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:12:07 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:05:48 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 6:59:43 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 06:44:26 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 12:43:20 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
> >> >> >> On 10/19/2022 11:15 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 11:51:42 AM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On 10/18/2022 9:11 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> Any taxpayer can make a gift to any other taxpayer of up to $16,000 per
> >> >> >> >>> year with no tax consequences to either. Unless there's a contract, the
> >> >> >> >>> receiver can do whatever he damned well pleases with that, or any other
> >> >> >> >>> unregulated money.
> >> >> >> >> That's an overly legalistic answer.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Saying "I haven't eaten in three days. Please give me food money," then
> >> >> >> >> spending it on drugs is dishonest and immoral, even if no contract was
> >> >> >> >> signed.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Saying "Please give money for my legal defense" then spending it on
> >> >> >> >> golf, mistresses, gold plated toilets or whatever is also dishonest and
> >> >> >> >> immoral, even if no contract was signed.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Was this OK andrew?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Until now that's an unsupported accusation. Appalling if
> >> >> >> true but I'll wait to decide.
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >DEar gawd Andrew, it is _not_ unsupported. There was enough evidence to hand down an indictment, and trump issued a pardon on the federal charges. There is currently another indictment on the state level. They general don't indict people for felonies without the charges being substantiated.
> >> >> As New York Judge Sol Wachtler said in 1985, “If a district attorney
> >> >> wanted, a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich.”
> >> >>
> >> >> Grand juries are the prosecutor’s babies. They decide who gets picked,
> >> >> what evidence gets presented, and what gets left out. There’s no
> >> >> judge, no defense attorney, and generally a defendant only testifies
> >> >> in rare circumstances — his story is so air tight that there’s no down
> >> >> side in putting him in. There’s no necessity for unanimity among the
> >> >> 23 or so jurors, and the standard of proof is so low — that probable
> >> >> cause exists to believe a crime has been committed — anyone, for the
> >> >> merest hint of an offense, can get indicted.
> >> >
> >> >You aren't expecting Flunky to know anything about this are you?
> >> His rhetoric clearly indicates that he does not....
> >
> >Sure kitty, Ask Bannon's co-defendants in the federal case, Kolfage and Badolato, who have both already pleaded guilty, if the indictment was legit or not. They have the evidence of the money transfers from the "charity" into all three of their personal accounts along with expenses for boats, trips and entertainment charged to the accounts. Bannon is the only one of the three who claims he did nothing wrong, and rubes like you and kunich are too blinded by political ideology to think he might actually have committed a crime.
> >
> >Are there plentiful examples of prosecutorial misconduct vis dubious indictments? sure. This isn't one of them.
> As always, you opinion is insignificant..

Sorry kitty, it isn't my opinion that Kolfage and Badolato have both already pleaded guilty, it's a fact, and it's a fact that Bannon was just as involved in the scam.

> Oh, yes, before you ask,
> mine is insignificant, too. However, unlike you, I'll make no effort
> to change your mind. As I often say, "you get to believe whatever you
> want."

As do you, it's just unfortunate you chose not to believe facts.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/21/brian-kolfage-and-andrew-badolato-we-build-wall-le/
(oh no! don't give any credibility to that liberal rag Washington Times!)

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 12:39:59 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>On 10/21/2022 10:38 AM, Catrike Rider wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:12:07 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:05:48 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 6:59:43 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 06:44:26 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 12:43:20 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 10/19/2022 11:15 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 11:51:42 AM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/18/2022 9:11 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any taxpayer can make a gift to any other taxpayer of up to $16,000 per
>>>>>>>>>>> year with no tax consequences to either. Unless there's a contract, the
>>>>>>>>>>> receiver can do whatever he damned well pleases with that, or any other
>>>>>>>>>>> unregulated money.
>>>>>>>>>> That's an overly legalistic answer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Saying "I haven't eaten in three days. Please give me food money," then
>>>>>>>>>> spending it on drugs is dishonest and immoral, even if no contract was
>>>>>>>>>> signed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Saying "Please give money for my legal defense" then spending it on
>>>>>>>>>> golf, mistresses, gold plated toilets or whatever is also dishonest and
>>>>>>>>>> immoral, even if no contract was signed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Was this OK andrew?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Until now that's an unsupported accusation. Appalling if
>>>>>>>> true but I'll wait to decide.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> DEar gawd Andrew, it is _not_ unsupported. There was enough evidence to hand down an indictment, and trump issued a pardon on the federal charges. There is currently another indictment on the state level. They general don't indict people for felonies without the charges being substantiated.
>>>>>> As New York Judge Sol Wachtler said in 1985, “If a district attorney
>>>>>> wanted, a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich.”
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grand juries are the prosecutor’s babies. They decide who gets picked,
>>>>>> what evidence gets presented, and what gets left out. There’s no
>>>>>> judge, no defense attorney, and generally a defendant only testifies
>>>>>> in rare circumstances — his story is so air tight that there’s no down
>>>>>> side in putting him in. There’s no necessity for unanimity among the
>>>>>> 23 or so jurors, and the standard of proof is so low — that probable
>>>>>> cause exists to believe a crime has been committed — anyone, for the
>>>>>> merest hint of an offense, can get indicted.
>>>>>
>>>>> You aren't expecting Flunky to know anything about this are you?
>>>> His rhetoric clearly indicates that he does not....
>>>
>>> Sure kitty, Ask Bannon's co-defendants in the federal case, Kolfage and Badolato, who have both already pleaded guilty, if the indictment was legit or not. They have the evidence of the money transfers from the "charity" into all three of their personal accounts along with expenses for boats, trips and entertainment charged to the accounts. Bannon is the only one of the three who claims he did nothing wrong, and rubes like you and kunich are too blinded by political ideology to think he might actually have committed a crime.
>>>
>>> Are there plentiful examples of prosecutorial misconduct vis dubious indictments? sure. This isn't one of them.
>>
>> As always, you opinion is insignificant.. Oh, yes, before you ask,
>> mine is insignificant, too.
>
>I note the sudden switch from "It's not proven" to "OK, it's proven but
>it doesn't matter (because I like their political party)."

<LOL> No switch. It's clearly unproven, your reading comprehensive
problems duly noted.

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 10:08:09 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:38:58 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:12:07 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:05:48 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 6:59:43 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 06:44:26 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> >> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 12:43:20 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
>> >> >> >> On 10/19/2022 11:15 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 11:51:42 AM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On 10/18/2022 9:11 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >>> Any taxpayer can make a gift to any other taxpayer of up to $16,000 per
>> >> >> >> >>> year with no tax consequences to either. Unless there's a contract, the
>> >> >> >> >>> receiver can do whatever he damned well pleases with that, or any other
>> >> >> >> >>> unregulated money.
>> >> >> >> >> That's an overly legalistic answer.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Saying "I haven't eaten in three days. Please give me food money," then
>> >> >> >> >> spending it on drugs is dishonest and immoral, even if no contract was
>> >> >> >> >> signed.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Saying "Please give money for my legal defense" then spending it on
>> >> >> >> >> golf, mistresses, gold plated toilets or whatever is also dishonest and
>> >> >> >> >> immoral, even if no contract was signed.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Was this OK andrew?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Until now that's an unsupported accusation. Appalling if
>> >> >> >> true but I'll wait to decide.
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >DEar gawd Andrew, it is _not_ unsupported. There was enough evidence to hand down an indictment, and trump issued a pardon on the federal charges. There is currently another indictment on the state level. They general don't indict people for felonies without the charges being substantiated.
>> >> >> As New York Judge Sol Wachtler said in 1985, “If a district attorney
>> >> >> wanted, a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich.”
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Grand juries are the prosecutor’s babies. They decide who gets picked,
>> >> >> what evidence gets presented, and what gets left out. There’s no
>> >> >> judge, no defense attorney, and generally a defendant only testifies
>> >> >> in rare circumstances — his story is so air tight that there’s no down
>> >> >> side in putting him in. There’s no necessity for unanimity among the
>> >> >> 23 or so jurors, and the standard of proof is so low — that probable
>> >> >> cause exists to believe a crime has been committed — anyone, for the
>> >> >> merest hint of an offense, can get indicted.
>> >> >
>> >> >You aren't expecting Flunky to know anything about this are you?
>> >> His rhetoric clearly indicates that he does not....
>> >
>> >Sure kitty, Ask Bannon's co-defendants in the federal case, Kolfage and Badolato, who have both already pleaded guilty, if the indictment was legit or not. They have the evidence of the money transfers from the "charity" into all three of their personal accounts along with expenses for boats, trips and entertainment charged to the accounts. Bannon is the only one of the three who claims he did nothing wrong, and rubes like you and kunich are too blinded by political ideology to think he might actually have committed a crime.
>> >
>> >Are there plentiful examples of prosecutorial misconduct vis dubious indictments? sure. This isn't one of them.
>> As always, you opinion is insignificant..
>
>Sorry kitty, it isn't my opinion that Kolfage and Badolato have both already pleaded guilty, it's a fact, and it's a fact that Bannon was just as involved in the scam.

<LOL> It's all just your opinion.

>> Oh, yes, before you ask,
>> mine is insignificant, too. However, unlike you, I'll make no effort
>> to change your mind. As I often say, "you get to believe whatever you
>> want."
>
>As do you, it's just unfortunate you chose not to believe facts.
>https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/21/brian-kolfage-and-andrew-badolato-we-build-wall-le/
>(oh no! don't give any credibility to that liberal rag Washington Times!)

On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 2:06:08 PM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 10:08:09 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:38:58 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:12:07 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:05:48 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 6:59:43 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >> >> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 06:44:26 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >> >> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 12:43:20 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On 10/19/2022 11:15 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 11:51:42 AM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/18/2022 9:11 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >> >>> Any taxpayer can make a gift to any other taxpayer of up to $16,000 per
> >> >> >> >> >>> year with no tax consequences to either. Unless there's a contract, the
> >> >> >> >> >>> receiver can do whatever he damned well pleases with that, or any other
> >> >> >> >> >>> unregulated money.
> >> >> >> >> >> That's an overly legalistic answer.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Saying "I haven't eaten in three days. Please give me food money," then
> >> >> >> >> >> spending it on drugs is dishonest and immoral, even if no contract was
> >> >> >> >> >> signed.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Saying "Please give money for my legal defense" then spending it on
> >> >> >> >> >> golf, mistresses, gold plated toilets or whatever is also dishonest and
> >> >> >> >> >> immoral, even if no contract was signed.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Was this OK andrew?
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Until now that's an unsupported accusation. Appalling if
> >> >> >> >> true but I'll wait to decide.
> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >DEar gawd Andrew, it is _not_ unsupported. There was enough evidence to hand down an indictment, and trump issued a pardon on the federal charges. There is currently another indictment on the state level. They general don't indict people for felonies without the charges being substantiated.
> >> >> >> As New York Judge Sol Wachtler said in 1985, “If a district attorney
> >> >> >> wanted, a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich.”
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Grand juries are the prosecutor’s babies. They decide who gets picked,
> >> >> >> what evidence gets presented, and what gets left out. There’s no
> >> >> >> judge, no defense attorney, and generally a defendant only testifies
> >> >> >> in rare circumstances — his story is so air tight that there’s no down
> >> >> >> side in putting him in. There’s no necessity for unanimity among the
> >> >> >> 23 or so jurors, and the standard of proof is so low — that probable
> >> >> >> cause exists to believe a crime has been committed — anyone, for the
> >> >> >> merest hint of an offense, can get indicted.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >You aren't expecting Flunky to know anything about this are you?
> >> >> His rhetoric clearly indicates that he does not....
> >> >
> >> >Sure kitty, Ask Bannon's co-defendants in the federal case, Kolfage and Badolato, who have both already pleaded guilty, if the indictment was legit or not. They have the evidence of the money transfers from the "charity" into all three of their personal accounts along with expenses for boats, trips and entertainment charged to the accounts. Bannon is the only one of the three who claims he did nothing wrong, and rubes like you and kunich are too blinded by political ideology to think he might actually have committed a crime.
> >> >
> >> >Are there plentiful examples of prosecutorial misconduct vis dubious indictments? sure. This isn't one of them.
> >> As always, you opinion is insignificant..
> >
> >Sorry kitty, it isn't my opinion that Kolfage and Badolato have both already pleaded guilty, it's a fact, and it's a fact that Bannon was just as involved in the scam.
> <LOL> It's all just your opinion.

<snicker> Right, it's my _opinion_ that Kolfage and Badolato have both already pleaded guilty, sure thing kitty.....

> >> Oh, yes, before you ask,
> >> mine is insignificant, too. However, unlike you, I'll make no effort
> >> to change your mind. As I often say, "you get to believe whatever you
> >> want."
> >
> >As do you, it's just unfortunate you chose not to believe facts.
> >https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/21/brian-kolfage-and-andrew-badolato-we-build-wall-le/
> >(oh no! don't give any credibility to that liberal rag Washington Times!)

On 10/21/2022 12:01 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 12:40:04 PM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> On 10/21/2022 10:38 AM, Catrike Rider wrote:
>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:12:07 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:05:48 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>>>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 6:59:43 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 06:44:26 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>>>>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 12:43:20 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 10/19/2022 11:15 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 11:51:42 AM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/18/2022 9:11 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any taxpayer can make a gift to any other taxpayer of up to $16,000 per
>>>>>>>>>>>> year with no tax consequences to either. Unless there's a contract, the
>>>>>>>>>>>> receiver can do whatever he damned well pleases with that, or any other
>>>>>>>>>>>> unregulated money.
>>>>>>>>>>> That's an overly legalistic answer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Saying "I haven't eaten in three days. Please give me food money," then
>>>>>>>>>>> spending it on drugs is dishonest and immoral, even if no contract was
>>>>>>>>>>> signed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Saying "Please give money for my legal defense" then spending it on
>>>>>>>>>>> golf, mistresses, gold plated toilets or whatever is also dishonest and
>>>>>>>>>>> immoral, even if no contract was signed.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Was this OK andrew?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Until now that's an unsupported accusation. Appalling if
>>>>>>>>> true but I'll wait to decide.
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> DEar gawd Andrew, it is _not_ unsupported. There was enough evidence to hand down an indictment, and trump issued a pardon on the federal charges. There is currently another indictment on the state level. They general don't indict people for felonies without the charges being substantiated.
>>>>>>> As New York Judge Sol Wachtler said in 1985, “If a district attorney
>>>>>>> wanted, a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich.”
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Grand juries are the prosecutor’s babies. They decide who gets picked,
>>>>>>> what evidence gets presented, and what gets left out. There’s no
>>>>>>> judge, no defense attorney, and generally a defendant only testifies
>>>>>>> in rare circumstances — his story is so air tight that there’s no down
>>>>>>> side in putting him in. There’s no necessity for unanimity among the
>>>>>>> 23 or so jurors, and the standard of proof is so low — that probable
>>>>>>> cause exists to believe a crime has been committed — anyone, for the
>>>>>>> merest hint of an offense, can get indicted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You aren't expecting Flunky to know anything about this are you?
>>>>> His rhetoric clearly indicates that he does not....
>>>>
>>>> Sure kitty, Ask Bannon's co-defendants in the federal case, Kolfage and Badolato, who have both already pleaded guilty, if the indictment was legit or not. They have the evidence of the money transfers from the "charity" into all three of their personal accounts along with expenses for boats, trips and entertainment charged to the accounts. Bannon is the only one of the three who claims he did nothing wrong, and rubes like you and kunich are too blinded by political ideology to think he might actually have committed a crime.
>>>>
>>>> Are there plentiful examples of prosecutorial misconduct vis dubious indictments? sure. This isn't one of them.
>>>
>>> As always, you opinion is insignificant.. Oh, yes, before you ask,
>>> mine is insignificant, too.
>> I note the sudden switch from "It's not proven" to "OK, it's proven but
>> it doesn't matter (because I like their political party)."
>>
> That shouldn't be surprising, he also went from "there is no per diem allowance" to "there is but it's just a recommendation", which I also just proved to him is wrong.
>

Don't look too closely at any government activity. They are
all ugly inside:

https://www.judicialwatch.org/judicial-watch-secret-service-hotel-bills-for-obama-familys-2014-august-vacation-in-marthas-vineyard-christmas-vacation-in-honolulu-cost-taxpayers-1243057/

https://www.newsmax.com/US/Obama-Africa-cost-Secret-Service/2014/05/29/id/574038/

--
Andrew Muzi
<www.yellowjersey.org/>
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:59:28 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 12:39:59 -0400, Frank Krygowski
> <frkr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >On 10/21/2022 10:38 AM, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:12:07 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:05:48 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >>>> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 6:59:43 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >>>>>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 06:44:26 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >>>>>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 12:43:20 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 10/19/2022 11:15 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 11:51:42 AM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 10/18/2022 9:11 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Any taxpayer can make a gift to any other taxpayer of up to $16,000 per
> >>>>>>>>>>> year with no tax consequences to either. Unless there's a contract, the
> >>>>>>>>>>> receiver can do whatever he damned well pleases with that, or any other
> >>>>>>>>>>> unregulated money.
> >>>>>>>>>> That's an overly legalistic answer.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Saying "I haven't eaten in three days. Please give me food money," then
> >>>>>>>>>> spending it on drugs is dishonest and immoral, even if no contract was
> >>>>>>>>>> signed.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Saying "Please give money for my legal defense" then spending it on
> >>>>>>>>>> golf, mistresses, gold plated toilets or whatever is also dishonest and
> >>>>>>>>>> immoral, even if no contract was signed.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Was this OK andrew?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Until now that's an unsupported accusation. Appalling if
> >>>>>>>> true but I'll wait to decide.
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> DEar gawd Andrew, it is _not_ unsupported. There was enough evidence to hand down an indictment, and trump issued a pardon on the federal charges. There is currently another indictment on the state level. They general don't indict people for felonies without the charges being substantiated..
> >>>>>> As New York Judge Sol Wachtler said in 1985, “If a district attorney
> >>>>>> wanted, a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich.”
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Grand juries are the prosecutor’s babies. They decide who gets picked,
> >>>>>> what evidence gets presented, and what gets left out. There’s no
> >>>>>> judge, no defense attorney, and generally a defendant only testifies
> >>>>>> in rare circumstances — his story is so air tight that there’s no down
> >>>>>> side in putting him in. There’s no necessity for unanimity among the
> >>>>>> 23 or so jurors, and the standard of proof is so low — that probable
> >>>>>> cause exists to believe a crime has been committed — anyone, for the
> >>>>>> merest hint of an offense, can get indicted.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You aren't expecting Flunky to know anything about this are you?
> >>>> His rhetoric clearly indicates that he does not....
> >>>
> >>> Sure kitty, Ask Bannon's co-defendants in the federal case, Kolfage and Badolato, who have both already pleaded guilty, if the indictment was legit or not. They have the evidence of the money transfers from the "charity" into all three of their personal accounts along with expenses for boats, trips and entertainment charged to the accounts. Bannon is the only one of the three who claims he did nothing wrong, and rubes like you and kunich are too blinded by political ideology to think he might actually have committed a crime.
> >>>
> >>> Are there plentiful examples of prosecutorial misconduct vis dubious indictments? sure. This isn't one of them.
> >>
> >> As always, you opinion is insignificant.. Oh, yes, before you ask,
> >> mine is insignificant, too.
> >
> >I note the sudden switch from "It's not proven" to "OK, it's proven but
> >it doesn't matter (because I like their political party)."
> <LOL> No switch. It's clearly unproven, your reading comprehensive
> problems duly noted.
Like Flunky, Krygowski hasn't a bit of faith in the American justice system.. And that is because he and Flunky see it so easily manipulated by the FBI and the Biden appointed Attorney General. So to them the merest hint that there could have done something is offensive to them

https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-man-7-years-january-6-riot

https://triblive.com/local/pittsburgh-man-who-killed-another-man-with-a-table-leg-gets-3-to-6-years-in-prison/

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 11:12:35 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 2:06:08 PM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 10:08:09 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:38:58 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:12:07 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:05:48 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> >> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 6:59:43 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 06:44:26 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> >> >> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 12:43:20 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On 10/19/2022 11:15 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 11:51:42 AM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/18/2022 9:11 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >>> Any taxpayer can make a gift to any other taxpayer of up to $16,000 per
>> >> >> >> >> >>> year with no tax consequences to either. Unless there's a contract, the
>> >> >> >> >> >>> receiver can do whatever he damned well pleases with that, or any other
>> >> >> >> >> >>> unregulated money.
>> >> >> >> >> >> That's an overly legalistic answer.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Saying "I haven't eaten in three days. Please give me food money," then
>> >> >> >> >> >> spending it on drugs is dishonest and immoral, even if no contract was
>> >> >> >> >> >> signed.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Saying "Please give money for my legal defense" then spending it on
>> >> >> >> >> >> golf, mistresses, gold plated toilets or whatever is also dishonest and
>> >> >> >> >> >> immoral, even if no contract was signed.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > Was this OK andrew?
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> Until now that's an unsupported accusation. Appalling if
>> >> >> >> >> true but I'll wait to decide.
>> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >DEar gawd Andrew, it is _not_ unsupported. There was enough evidence to hand down an indictment, and trump issued a pardon on the federal charges. There is currently another indictment on the state level. They general don't indict people for felonies without the charges being substantiated.
>> >> >> >> As New York Judge Sol Wachtler said in 1985, “If a district attorney
>> >> >> >> wanted, a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich.”
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Grand juries are the prosecutor’s babies. They decide who gets picked,
>> >> >> >> what evidence gets presented, and what gets left out. There’s no
>> >> >> >> judge, no defense attorney, and generally a defendant only testifies
>> >> >> >> in rare circumstances — his story is so air tight that there’s no down
>> >> >> >> side in putting him in. There’s no necessity for unanimity among the
>> >> >> >> 23 or so jurors, and the standard of proof is so low — that probable
>> >> >> >> cause exists to believe a crime has been committed — anyone, for the
>> >> >> >> merest hint of an offense, can get indicted.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >You aren't expecting Flunky to know anything about this are you?
>> >> >> His rhetoric clearly indicates that he does not....
>> >> >
>> >> >Sure kitty, Ask Bannon's co-defendants in the federal case, Kolfage and Badolato, who have both already pleaded guilty, if the indictment was legit or not. They have the evidence of the money transfers from the "charity" into all three of their personal accounts along with expenses for boats, trips and entertainment charged to the accounts. Bannon is the only one of the three who claims he did nothing wrong, and rubes like you and kunich are too blinded by political ideology to think he might actually have committed a crime.
>> >> >
>> >> >Are there plentiful examples of prosecutorial misconduct vis dubious indictments? sure. This isn't one of them.
>> >> As always, you opinion is insignificant..
>> >
>> >Sorry kitty, it isn't my opinion that Kolfage and Badolato have both already pleaded guilty, it's a fact, and it's a fact that Bannon was just as involved in the scam.
>> <LOL> It's all just your opinion.
>
><snicker> Right, it's my _opinion_ that Kolfage and Badolato have both already pleaded guilty, sure thing kitty.....

Not to the "We Build the Wall, thing...

"The charges contained in the Indictment are merely accusations. The
defendants are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty."
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands

>> >> Oh, yes, before you ask,
>> >> mine is insignificant, too. However, unlike you, I'll make no effort
>> >> to change your mind. As I often say, "you get to believe whatever you
>> >> want."
>> >
>> >As do you, it's just unfortunate you chose not to believe facts.
>> >https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/21/brian-kolfage-and-andrew-badolato-we-build-wall-le/
>> >(oh no! don't give any credibility to that liberal rag Washington Times!)

On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 11:25:04 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 11:12:35 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 2:06:08 PM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 10:08:09 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:38:58 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:12:07 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >> >> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:05:48 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >> >> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 6:59:43 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 06:44:26 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >> >> >> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 12:43:20 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/19/2022 11:15 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 11:51:42 AM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/18/2022 9:11 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Any taxpayer can make a gift to any other taxpayer of up to $16,000 per
> >> >> >> >> >> >>> year with no tax consequences to either. Unless there's a contract, the
> >> >> >> >> >> >>> receiver can do whatever he damned well pleases with that, or any other
> >> >> >> >> >> >>> unregulated money.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> That's an overly legalistic answer.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Saying "I haven't eaten in three days. Please give me food money," then
> >> >> >> >> >> >> spending it on drugs is dishonest and immoral, even if no contract was
> >> >> >> >> >> >> signed.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Saying "Please give money for my legal defense" then spending it on
> >> >> >> >> >> >> golf, mistresses, gold plated toilets or whatever is also dishonest and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> immoral, even if no contract was signed.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Was this OK andrew?
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> Until now that's an unsupported accusation. Appalling if
> >> >> >> >> >> true but I'll wait to decide.
> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >DEar gawd Andrew, it is _not_ unsupported. There was enough evidence to hand down an indictment, and trump issued a pardon on the federal charges. There is currently another indictment on the state level. They general don't indict people for felonies without the charges being substantiated.
> >> >> >> >> As New York Judge Sol Wachtler said in 1985, “If a district attorney
> >> >> >> >> wanted, a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich.”
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Grand juries are the prosecutor’s babies. They decide who gets picked,
> >> >> >> >> what evidence gets presented, and what gets left out. There’s no
> >> >> >> >> judge, no defense attorney, and generally a defendant only testifies
> >> >> >> >> in rare circumstances — his story is so air tight that there’s no down
> >> >> >> >> side in putting him in. There’s no necessity for unanimity among the
> >> >> >> >> 23 or so jurors, and the standard of proof is so low — that probable
> >> >> >> >> cause exists to believe a crime has been committed — anyone, for the
> >> >> >> >> merest hint of an offense, can get indicted.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >You aren't expecting Flunky to know anything about this are you?
> >> >> >> His rhetoric clearly indicates that he does not....
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Sure kitty, Ask Bannon's co-defendants in the federal case, Kolfage and Badolato, who have both already pleaded guilty, if the indictment was legit or not. They have the evidence of the money transfers from the "charity" into all three of their personal accounts along with expenses for boats, trips and entertainment charged to the accounts. Bannon is the only one of the three who claims he did nothing wrong, and rubes like you and kunich are too blinded by political ideology to think he might actually have committed a crime.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Are there plentiful examples of prosecutorial misconduct vis dubious indictments? sure. This isn't one of them.
> >> >> As always, you opinion is insignificant..
> >> >
> >> >Sorry kitty, it isn't my opinion that Kolfage and Badolato have both already pleaded guilty, it's a fact, and it's a fact that Bannon was just as involved in the scam.
> >> <LOL> It's all just your opinion.
> >
> ><snicker> Right, it's my _opinion_ that Kolfage and Badolato have both already pleaded guilty, sure thing kitty.....
> Not to the "We Build the Wall, thing...
>
> "The charges contained in the Indictment are merely accusations. The
> defendants are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty."
> https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands
> >> >> Oh, yes, before you ask,
> >> >> mine is insignificant, too. However, unlike you, I'll make no effort
> >> >> to change your mind. As I often say, "you get to believe whatever you
> >> >> want."
> >> >
> >> >As do you, it's just unfortunate you chose not to believe facts.
> >> >https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/21/brian-kolfage-and-andrew-badolato-we-build-wall-le/
> >> >(oh no! don't give any credibility to that liberal rag Washington Times!)

The good thing about Merritt Garland is that if we were to kill Flunky we probably wouldn't even be charged.

On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 2:25:04 PM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 11:12:35 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 2:06:08 PM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 10:08:09 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:38:58 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:12:07 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >> >> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:05:48 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> >> >> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 6:59:43 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 06:44:26 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >> >> >> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 12:43:20 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/19/2022 11:15 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 11:51:42 AM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/18/2022 9:11 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Any taxpayer can make a gift to any other taxpayer of up to $16,000 per
> >> >> >> >> >> >>> year with no tax consequences to either. Unless there's a contract, the
> >> >> >> >> >> >>> receiver can do whatever he damned well pleases with that, or any other
> >> >> >> >> >> >>> unregulated money.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> That's an overly legalistic answer.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Saying "I haven't eaten in three days. Please give me food money," then
> >> >> >> >> >> >> spending it on drugs is dishonest and immoral, even if no contract was
> >> >> >> >> >> >> signed.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Saying "Please give money for my legal defense" then spending it on
> >> >> >> >> >> >> golf, mistresses, gold plated toilets or whatever is also dishonest and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> immoral, even if no contract was signed.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Was this OK andrew?
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> Until now that's an unsupported accusation. Appalling if
> >> >> >> >> >> true but I'll wait to decide.
> >> >> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> >> >DEar gawd Andrew, it is _not_ unsupported. There was enough evidence to hand down an indictment, and trump issued a pardon on the federal charges. There is currently another indictment on the state level. They general don't indict people for felonies without the charges being substantiated.
> >> >> >> >> As New York Judge Sol Wachtler said in 1985, “If a district attorney
> >> >> >> >> wanted, a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich.”
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Grand juries are the prosecutor’s babies. They decide who gets picked,
> >> >> >> >> what evidence gets presented, and what gets left out. There’s no
> >> >> >> >> judge, no defense attorney, and generally a defendant only testifies
> >> >> >> >> in rare circumstances — his story is so air tight that there’s no down
> >> >> >> >> side in putting him in. There’s no necessity for unanimity among the
> >> >> >> >> 23 or so jurors, and the standard of proof is so low — that probable
> >> >> >> >> cause exists to believe a crime has been committed — anyone, for the
> >> >> >> >> merest hint of an offense, can get indicted.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >You aren't expecting Flunky to know anything about this are you?
> >> >> >> His rhetoric clearly indicates that he does not....
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Sure kitty, Ask Bannon's co-defendants in the federal case, Kolfage and Badolato, who have both already pleaded guilty, if the indictment was legit or not. They have the evidence of the money transfers from the "charity" into all three of their personal accounts along with expenses for boats, trips and entertainment charged to the accounts. Bannon is the only one of the three who claims he did nothing wrong, and rubes like you and kunich are too blinded by political ideology to think he might actually have committed a crime.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Are there plentiful examples of prosecutorial misconduct vis dubious indictments? sure. This isn't one of them.
> >> >> As always, you opinion is insignificant..
> >> >
> >> >Sorry kitty, it isn't my opinion that Kolfage and Badolato have both already pleaded guilty, it's a fact, and it's a fact that Bannon was just as involved in the scam.
> >> <LOL> It's all just your opinion.
> >
> ><snicker> Right, it's my _opinion_ that Kolfage and Badolato have both already pleaded guilty, sure thing kitty.....
> Not to the "We Build the Wall, thing...

Yes Kitty, they pleaded guilty to the "build the wall" scam
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/21/brian-kolfage-and-andrew-badolato-we-build-wall-le/
"Leaders of private border-wall effort plead guilty to scamming donors "

>
> "The charges contained in the Indictment are merely accusations. The
> defendants are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty."
> https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands

Try and keep up, kitty. That link is from the original indictment in 2020. They pleaded guilty in april 2022
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/21/brian-kolfage-and-andrew-badolato-we-build-wall-le/
"Two men who led We Build the Wall, a private group that said it was helping construct President Trump’s border wall, pleaded guilty Thursday to defrauding hundreds of thousands of people who gave money for the effort.."

Are you really that fucking stupid?

On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 2:29:57 PM UTC-4, cycl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 11:25:04 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
> > On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 11:12:35 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> > <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 2:06:08 PM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> > >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 10:08:09 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> > >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:38:58 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> > >> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> > >> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:12:07 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> > >> >> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:05:48 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
> > >> >> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 6:59:43 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 06:44:26 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> > >> >> >> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 12:43:20 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >> On 10/19/2022 11:15 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 11:51:42 AM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/18/2022 9:11 PM, AMuzi wrote:
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> Any taxpayer can make a gift to any other taxpayer of up to $16,000 per
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> year with no tax consequences to either. Unless there's a contract, the
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> receiver can do whatever he damned well pleases with that, or any other
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>> unregulated money.
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> That's an overly legalistic answer.
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Saying "I haven't eaten in three days. Please give me food money," then
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> spending it on drugs is dishonest and immoral, even if no contract was
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> signed.
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Saying "Please give money for my legal defense" then spending it on
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> golf, mistresses, gold plated toilets or whatever is also dishonest and
> > >> >> >> >> >> >> immoral, even if no contract was signed.
> > >> >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> > Was this OK andrew?
> > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> > https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands
> > >> >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >> Until now that's an unsupported accusation. Appalling if
> > >> >> >> >> >> true but I'll wait to decide.
> > >> >> >> >> >> --
> > >> >> >> >> >DEar gawd Andrew, it is _not_ unsupported. There was enough evidence to hand down an indictment, and trump issued a pardon on the federal charges. There is currently another indictment on the state level. They general don't indict people for felonies without the charges being substantiated.
> > >> >> >> >> As New York Judge Sol Wachtler said in 1985, “If a district attorney
> > >> >> >> >> wanted, a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich.”
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> Grand juries are the prosecutor’s babies. They decide who gets picked,
> > >> >> >> >> what evidence gets presented, and what gets left out. There’s no
> > >> >> >> >> judge, no defense attorney, and generally a defendant only testifies
> > >> >> >> >> in rare circumstances — his story is so air tight that there’s no down
> > >> >> >> >> side in putting him in. There’s no necessity for unanimity among the
> > >> >> >> >> 23 or so jurors, and the standard of proof is so low — that probable
> > >> >> >> >> cause exists to believe a crime has been committed — anyone, for the
> > >> >> >> >> merest hint of an offense, can get indicted.
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >You aren't expecting Flunky to know anything about this are you?
> > >> >> >> His rhetoric clearly indicates that he does not....
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Sure kitty, Ask Bannon's co-defendants in the federal case, Kolfage and Badolato, who have both already pleaded guilty, if the indictment was legit or not. They have the evidence of the money transfers from the "charity" into all three of their personal accounts along with expenses for boats, trips and entertainment charged to the accounts. Bannon is the only one of the three who claims he did nothing wrong, and rubes like you and kunich are too blinded by political ideology to think he might actually have committed a crime.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Are there plentiful examples of prosecutorial misconduct vis dubious indictments? sure. This isn't one of them.
> > >> >> As always, you opinion is insignificant..
> > >> >
> > >> >Sorry kitty, it isn't my opinion that Kolfage and Badolato have both already pleaded guilty, it's a fact, and it's a fact that Bannon was just as involved in the scam.
> > >> <LOL> It's all just your opinion.
> > >
> > ><snicker> Right, it's my _opinion_ that Kolfage and Badolato have both already pleaded guilty, sure thing kitty.....
> > Not to the "We Build the Wall, thing...
> >
> > "The charges contained in the Indictment are merely accusations. The
> > defendants are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty."
> > https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands
> > >> >> Oh, yes, before you ask,
> > >> >> mine is insignificant, too. However, unlike you, I'll make no effort
> > >> >> to change your mind. As I often say, "you get to believe whatever you
> > >> >> want."
> > >> >
> > >> >As do you, it's just unfortunate you chose not to believe facts.
> > >> >https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/21/brian-kolfage-and-andrew-badolato-we-build-wall-le/
> > >> >(oh no! don't give any credibility to that liberal rag Washington Times!)
> The good thing about Merritt Garland is that if we were to kill Flunky we probably wouldn't even be charged.

Try it, fuckface.

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 11:33:27 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 2:25:04 PM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 11:12:35 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 2:06:08 PM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 10:08:09 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:38:58 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
>> >> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:25:34 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> >> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 10:12:07 AM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 07:05:48 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
>> >> >> >> <cycl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 6:59:43 AM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 06:44:26 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> >> >> >> >> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 12:43:20 PM UTC-4, AMuzi wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/19/2022 11:15 AM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> > On Wednesday, October 19, 2022 at 11:51:42 AM UTC-4, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 10/18/2022 9:11 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Any taxpayer can make a gift to any other taxpayer of up to $16,000 per
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> year with no tax consequences to either. Unless there's a contract, the
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> receiver can do whatever he damned well pleases with that, or any other
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>> unregulated money.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> That's an overly legalistic answer.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Saying "I haven't eaten in three days. Please give me food money," then
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> spending it on drugs is dishonest and immoral, even if no contract was
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> signed.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> Saying "Please give money for my legal defense" then spending it on
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> golf, mistresses, gold plated toilets or whatever is also dishonest and
>> >> >> >> >> >> >> immoral, even if no contract was signed.
>> >> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > Was this OK andrew?
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> > https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands
>> >> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >> Until now that's an unsupported accusation. Appalling if
>> >> >> >> >> >> true but I'll wait to decide.
>> >> >> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> >> >DEar gawd Andrew, it is _not_ unsupported. There was enough evidence to hand down an indictment, and trump issued a pardon on the federal charges. There is currently another indictment on the state level. They general don't indict people for felonies without the charges being substantiated.
>> >> >> >> >> As New York Judge Sol Wachtler said in 1985, “If a district attorney
>> >> >> >> >> wanted, a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich.”
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Grand juries are the prosecutor’s babies. They decide who gets picked,
>> >> >> >> >> what evidence gets presented, and what gets left out. There’s no
>> >> >> >> >> judge, no defense attorney, and generally a defendant only testifies
>> >> >> >> >> in rare circumstances — his story is so air tight that there’s no down
>> >> >> >> >> side in putting him in. There’s no necessity for unanimity among the
>> >> >> >> >> 23 or so jurors, and the standard of proof is so low — that probable
>> >> >> >> >> cause exists to believe a crime has been committed — anyone, for the
>> >> >> >> >> merest hint of an offense, can get indicted.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >You aren't expecting Flunky to know anything about this are you?
>> >> >> >> His rhetoric clearly indicates that he does not....
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Sure kitty, Ask Bannon's co-defendants in the federal case, Kolfage and Badolato, who have both already pleaded guilty, if the indictment was legit or not. They have the evidence of the money transfers from the "charity" into all three of their personal accounts along with expenses for boats, trips and entertainment charged to the accounts. Bannon is the only one of the three who claims he did nothing wrong, and rubes like you and kunich are too blinded by political ideology to think he might actually have committed a crime.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Are there plentiful examples of prosecutorial misconduct vis dubious indictments? sure. This isn't one of them.
>> >> >> As always, you opinion is insignificant..
>> >> >
>> >> >Sorry kitty, it isn't my opinion that Kolfage and Badolato have both already pleaded guilty, it's a fact, and it's a fact that Bannon was just as involved in the scam.
>> >> <LOL> It's all just your opinion.
>> >
>> ><snicker> Right, it's my _opinion_ that Kolfage and Badolato have both already pleaded guilty, sure thing kitty.....
>> Not to the "We Build the Wall, thing...
>
>Yes Kitty, they pleaded guilty to the "build the wall" scam
>https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/21/brian-kolfage-and-andrew-badolato-we-build-wall-le/
>"Leaders of private border-wall effort plead guilty to scamming donors "

Nope, the DOJ says otherwise...

>> "The charges contained in the Indictment are merely accusations. The
>> defendants are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty."
>> https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands
>
> Try and keep up, kitty. That link is from the original indictment in 2020. They pleaded guilty in april 2022
>https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/21/brian-kolfage-and-andrew-badolato-we-build-wall-le/
>"Two men who led We Build the Wall, a private group that said it was helping construct President Trump’s border wall, pleaded guilty Thursday to defrauding hundreds of thousands of people who gave money for the effort."

Ok, you're right. I concede... Put them in jail.

>Are you really that fucking stupid?

On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 2:49:17 PM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 11:33:27 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >
> > Try and keep up, kitty. That link is from the original indictment in 2020. They pleaded guilty in april 2022
> >https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/21/brian-kolfage-and-andrew-badolato-we-build-wall-le/
> >"Two men who led We Build the Wall, a private group that said it was helping construct President Trump’s border wall, pleaded guilty Thursday to defrauding hundreds of thousands of people who gave money for the effort."
> Ok, you're right. I concede

Which could have been avoided if you would have simply put aside your kunich-infected political bias and read the link I provided and not insisted I was wrong simply because I was the one showing you the information - classic kunich behavior.

On 10/21/2022 2:33 PM, funkma...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Try and keep up, kitty. That link is from the original indictment in 2020. They pleaded guilty in april 2022
> https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/21/brian-kolfage-and-andrew-badolato-we-build-wall-le/
> "Two men who led We Build the Wall, a private group that said it was helping construct President Trump’s border wall, pleaded guilty Thursday to defrauding hundreds of thousands of people who gave money for the effort."
>
> Are you really that fucking stupid?

Obviously, yes.

--
- Frank Krygowski

On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 12:07:32 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
<funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 2:49:17 PM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
>> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 11:33:27 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
>> >
>> > Try and keep up, kitty. That link is from the original indictment in 2020. They pleaded guilty in april 2022
>> >https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/21/brian-kolfage-and-andrew-badolato-we-build-wall-le/
>> >"Two men who led We Build the Wall, a private group that said it was helping construct President Trump’s border wall, pleaded guilty Thursday to defrauding hundreds of thousands of people who gave money for the effort."
>> Ok, you're right. I concede
>
>Which could have been avoided if you would have simply put aside your kunich-infected political bias and read the link I provided and not insisted I was wrong simply because I was the one showing you the information - classic kunich behavior.

Actually, I'd never been interested enough to look at it. It's not
like I have skin in the game. I generally assume all political types
to be crooks.

On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 4:18:13 PM UTC-7, Catrike Rider wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 12:07:32 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> <funkma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, October 21, 2022 at 2:49:17 PM UTC-4, Catrike Rider wrote:
> >> On Fri, 21 Oct 2022 11:33:27 -0700 (PDT), "funkma...@hotmail.com"
> >> >
> >> > Try and keep up, kitty. That link is from the original indictment in 2020. They pleaded guilty in april 2022
> >> >https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/apr/21/brian-kolfage-and-andrew-badolato-we-build-wall-le/
> >> >"Two men who led We Build the Wall, a private group that said it was helping construct President Trump’s border wall, pleaded guilty Thursday to defrauding hundreds of thousands of people who gave money for the effort."
> >> Ok, you're right. I concede
> >
> >Which could have been avoided if you would have simply put aside your kunich-infected political bias and read the link I provided and not insisted I was wrong simply because I was the one showing you the information - classic kunich behavior.
> Actually, I'd never been interested enough to look at it. It's not
> like I have skin in the game. I generally assume all political types
> to be crooks.
This is why America must institute term limits. We cannot live with a political upper class that soon grow to believe that they know better than the citizens of this country what is good for us. The vaccine mandates are a perfect example.