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* pretty good rantjlarkin
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 by: Bill Sloman - Fri, 18 Jun 2021 15:04 UTC

On Saturday, June 19, 2021 at 12:26:06 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 09:08:17 +0100, Tom Gardner
> <spam...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >On 18/06/21 01:30, John Larkin wrote:
> >> On Thu, 17 Jun 2021 23:35:42 +0100, Tom Gardner
> >> <spam...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 17/06/21 22:41, John Larkin wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, 17 Jun 2021 16:14:09 -0400, Ralph Mowery
> >>>> <rmow...@charter.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> In article <c8767d85-0085-4a4a...@googlegroups.com>,
> >>>>> whi...@gmail.com says...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I see this all the time; people believe what the group believes and
> >>>>>>> quit thinking for themselves.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It's easy to see things like that, whether they're evident or not.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time,
> >>>>>> but you can't fool all the people all the time."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You do not need to fool all the people any time, just fool enough to
> >>>>> accomplish what you want.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> It's easier to fool yourself.
> >>>
> >>> Yes, as you demonstrate too often.
> >>
> >> Do you enjoy being a jerk?
> >
> >Physician, heal thyself.
>
> You switched from objective discussion to insult. People hostile to ideas do that.

Grow up.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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 by: aioe usenet - Sun, 27 Jun 2021 16:03 UTC

On 17/06/2021 21:59, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>
> https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/06/the_death_of_rational_science.html

>
> "This behavior makes sense when you realize that the human mind was
> built for survival, not truth."
This article starts about science but quite soon goes into left and
right and of course who does not support right must be left and
therefore a loonie and pretty soon an enemy. There is also a link to a
state ment by Andy Tix, Ph.D. who is bona fide that supports non of this
crap.

My prediction regarding the USA is one or more of the following:
--USA will become Nazi, Mc Carthy or worse
--the republican party will split, rednecks vs reasonable

>
> I see this all the time; people believe what the group believes and
> quit thinking for themselves. That has wild group dynamics, when
> everyone is doing that simultaneously.
>
> I suspect that original thinkers must be mostly immune to social
> pressures, are a bit autistic in the social sense.
>
>
>

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 by: John Larkin - Mon, 28 Jun 2021 18:45 UTC

On Sun, 27 Jun 2021 23:03:09 +0700, aioe usenet <hirni47@yahoo.com>
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>On 17/06/2021 21:59, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
>>
>> https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/06/the_death_of_rational_science.html
>
>>
>> "This behavior makes sense when you realize that the human mind was
>> built for survival, not truth."
>This article starts about science but quite soon goes into left and
>right and of course who does not support right must be left and
>therefore a loonie and pretty soon an enemy. There is also a link to a
>state ment by Andy Tix, Ph.D. who is bona fide that supports non of this
>crap.

If you don't like thinking about stuff like this, then don't.

The human mind wasn't built to accept new ideas either.

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 by: Bill Sloman - Tue, 29 Jun 2021 02:20 UTC

On Tuesday, June 29, 2021 at 4:45:38 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jun 2021 23:03:09 +0700, aioe usenet <hir...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >On 17/06/2021 21:59, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> >>
> >> https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/06/the_death_of_rational_science.html
> >
> >>
> >> "This behavior makes sense when you realize that the human mind was
> >> built for survival, not truth."
> >This article starts about science but quite soon goes into left and
> >right and of course who does not support right must be left and
> >therefore a loonie and pretty soon an enemy. There is also a link to a
> >state ment by Andy Tix, Ph.D. who is bona fide that supports non of this
> >crap.
>
> If you don't like thinking about stuff like this, then don't.

Follow John Larkin's example.
> The human mind wasn't built to accept new ideas either.

But scientific training does seem to be able inculcate that capacity. If that was on offer at Tulane, John Larkin seems to have managed to skip the relevant lectures.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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 by: Decadent...@decadence.org - Fri, 2 Jul 2021 04:41 UTC

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
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>
> https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/06/the_death_of_ratio
> nal_science.html
>
> "This behavior makes sense when you realize that the human mind
> was built for survival, not truth."
>
> I see this all the time; people believe what the group believes
> and quit thinking for themselves. That has wild group dynamics,
> when everyone is doing that simultaneously.
>
> I suspect that original thinkers must be mostly immune to social
> pressures, are a bit autistic in the social sense.
>
>
>

Rod Serling exploded in his grave.

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jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
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> There is a much smaller group composed of people who think for
> themselves. That's kind of a paradox, as in "Anarchists, Unite!"
>

The guy simply spelled the word "Untie" wrong.

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 by: Decadent...@decadence.org - Fri, 2 Jul 2021 04:44 UTC

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
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> No numbers, no details, no facts, no sources, etc. If this is
> "rational science" I'm going back to science by proclamation and
> press release.

I'll sell you some snake oil that I guarantee will cure any ailment
you have. ;-)

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 by: whit3rd - Fri, 2 Jul 2021 08:37 UTC

On Monday, June 28, 2021 at 11:45:38 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
> On Sun, 27 Jun 2021 23:03:09 +0700, aioe usenet <hir...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >On 17/06/2021 21:59, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> >>
> >> https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/06/the_death_of_rational_science.html
> >
> >>
> >> "This behavior makes sense when you realize that the human mind was
> >> built for survival, not truth."
> >This article starts about science but quite soon goes into left and
> >right and of course who does not support right must be left and
> >therefore a loonie and pretty soon an enemy. There is also a link to a
> >state ment by Andy Tix, Ph.D. who is bona fide that supports non of this
> >crap.

> If you don't like thinking about stuff like this, then don't.

Don't be absurd; obviously thought DID happen, and the
rant was flushed for all the right reasons.

> The human mind wasn't built to accept new ideas either.

Huh? Try to get a human knee to accept new ideas, and you'll
quickly understand why the mind is EXACTLY built for that purpose.
Skin can do it, too, but it takes a tattooist to really get the idea to stick.

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 by: Jeff Liebermann - Sat, 3 Jul 2021 16:48 UTC

On Fri, 2 Jul 2021 04:44:37 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

>Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
>news:t6smcg1ffr2ss5fsl7f8n0gejmuag1gi6b@4ax.com:
>
>> No numbers, no details, no facts, no sources, etc. If this is
>> "rational science" I'm going back to science by proclamation and
>> press release.

> I'll sell you some snake oil that I guarantee will cure any ailment
>you have. ;-)

Thanks, but I already have some snake oil:
<https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=snake+oil>
Depending on the formulation, snake oil works nicely as a mosquito
repellent, solder flux remover, and negative vibe blocker:
<https://www.ebay.com/itm/274783023226>
However, don't drink the stuff or you might find yourself speaking
with a forked tongue.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
PO Box 272 http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Ben Lomond CA 95005-0272
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

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