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zero is the limit for the subtraction operation.
No quantity is left to subtract from...

Mitchell Raemsch

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On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 6:17:59 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> zero is the limit for the subtraction operation.
> No quantity is left to subtract from...
>
> Mitchell Raemsch

There is something as overshooting to a negative.
But that is not quantity as mathematical reality.
Overshooting is left out like the Mandelbrot set
element that flies out is left out.

Mitchell Raemsch

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On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 9:42:23 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 6:17:59 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > zero is the limit for the subtraction operation.
> > No quantity is left to subtract from...
> >

> There is something as overshooting to a negative.

VERY good. There may be hope for you yet.

> But that is not quantity as mathematical reality.

Oooops! Spoke too soon...

1 - 2 is every bit as real as 1 -:- 2. Deal with it, Clown Boy.

Dan

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 by: Noble Landon - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 09:01 UTC

Dan Christensen wrote:

>> But that is not quantity as mathematical reality.
>
> O̶o̶o̶o̶p̶s̶! S̶p̶o̶k̶e̶ t̶o̶o̶ s̶o̶o̶n̶...
>
> 1 - 2 i̶s̶ e̶v̶e̶r̶y̶ b̶i̶t̶ a̶s̶ r̶e̶a̶l̶ a̶s̶ 1 -:- 2. D̶e̶a̶l̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶ i̶t̶, C̶l̶o̶w̶n̶ B̶o̶y̶.
>
> Dan

Not in physics, cretin. A negative it's just a matter of establishing the
position of the ZERO on an arbitrary scale. Dr. Mitchell is talking
physics, not math.

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On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 7:43:38 PM UTC-7, Dan Christensen wrote:
> On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 9:42:23 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 6:17:59 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > zero is the limit for the subtraction operation.
> > > No quantity is left to subtract from...
> > >
> > There is something as overshooting to a negative.
> VERY good. There may be hope for you yet.

You could overshoot but that is not a valid quantity.
Like Mandelbrot set quantities that overshoot have
to be left out.

> > But that is not quantity as mathematical reality.
> Oooops! Spoke too soon...
>
> 1 - 2 is every bit as real as 1 -:- 2. Deal with it, Clown Boy.

No. You cannot take more than 1 from 1 you moron...
There is no more to take from..

Mitchell Raemsch

>
> Dan

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 by: Michael Moroney - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 17:58 UTC

On 7/17/2021 1:54 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 7:43:38 PM UTC-7, Dan Christensen wrote:
>> 1 - 2 is every bit as real as 1 -:- 2. Deal with it, Clown Boy.
>
> No. You cannot take more than 1 from 1 you moron...
> There is no more to take from..

You can with electric charge. 1 coulomb - 2 coulombs = -1 coulomb.
You have been told that repeatedly, and you have never been able to
refute it. Deal with it.

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0123 are called light numbers
0/1 1/1 1/2 1/3 0 1 1/2 1/3 are called light unit fractions
a lattice may be used to lighten all dark fractions
all fractions plus all counting numbers are light

- is a formal operation on formal structures (nums)
in bob nums cycle around one ^ thirty two as zero
i would say - needs formal definition
i avoid using it in pspace solver bob
daniel

On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 1:58:11 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 7/17/2021 1:54 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 7:43:38 PM UTC-7, Dan Christensen wrote:
> >> 1 - 2 is every bit as real as 1 -:- 2. Deal with it, Clown Boy.
> >
> > No. You cannot take more than 1 from 1 you moron...
> > There is no more to take from..
> You can with electric charge. 1 coulomb - 2 coulombs = -1 coulomb.
> You have been told that repeatedly, and you have never been able to
> refute it. Deal with it.

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 by: Earle Jones - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 18:10 UTC

On Sat Jul 17 11:07:31 2021 "mitchr...@gmail.com" wrote:
> On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 10:58:11 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > On 7/17/2021 1:54 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 7:43:38 PM UTC-7, Dan Christensen wrote:
> > >> 1 - 2 is every bit as real as 1 -:- 2. Deal with it, Clown Boy.
> > >
> > > No. You cannot take more than 1 from 1 you moron...
> > > There is no more to take from..
> > You can with electric charge. 1 coulomb - 2 coulombs = -1 coulomb.
>
> That might be true but that is a relative.
> At absolute zero there is nothing left to take from...
>
> Mitchell Raemsch

*
Mitchell: You have a childish view of subtraction -- in fact, you have a childish view of all mathematics.

earle
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On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 11:10:58 AM UTC-7, Earle Jones wrote:
> On Sat Jul 17 11:07:31 2021 "mitchr...@gmail.com" wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 10:58:11 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > > On 7/17/2021 1:54 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 7:43:38 PM UTC-7, Dan Christensen wrote:
> > > >> 1 - 2 is every bit as real as 1 -:- 2. Deal with it, Clown Boy.
> > > >
> > > > No. You cannot take more than 1 from 1 you moron...
> > > > There is no more to take from..
> > > You can with electric charge. 1 coulomb - 2 coulombs = -1 coulomb.
> >
> > That might be true but that is a relative.
> > At absolute zero there is nothing left to take from...
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> *
> Mitchell: You have a childish view of subtraction -- in fact, you have a childish view of all mathematics.

Zero math is a win. No more quantity left to subtract from you moron...
The only things negative are using the subtraction of quantity operation.

Mitchell Raemsch
> *

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so - needs formal definition before i can use it as a symbol
the ^ "to the" operator is uh oh self times this many times
"" ""

On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 2:08:33 PM UTC-4, Daniel Pehoushek wrote:
> 0123 are called light numbers
> 0/1 1/1 1/2 1/3 0 1 1/2 1/3 are called light unit fractions
> a lattice may be used to lighten all dark fractions
> all fractions plus all counting numbers are light
>
> - is a formal operation on formal structures (nums)
> in bob nums cycle around one ^ thirty two as zero
> i would say - needs formal definition
> i avoid using it in pspace solver bob
> daniel
> On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 1:58:11 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > On 7/17/2021 1:54 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 7:43:38 PM UTC-7, Dan Christensen wrote:
> > >> 1 - 2 is every bit as real as 1 -:- 2. Deal with it, Clown Boy.
> > >
> > > No. You cannot take more than 1 from 1 you moron...
> > > There is no more to take from..
> > You can with electric charge. 1 coulomb - 2 coulombs = -1 coulomb.
> > You have been told that repeatedly, and you have never been able to
> > refute it. Deal with it.

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monotone reason is reason without negation in any form
the letters are elements zero through twenty siv of
the momday alphabet abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvw yz0
monotone formulas rule throughout the systems lords of all heavens
twenty seven is the third power of gods favorite number
ages three times three through four times four
are all gods good young years
0123 are called light numbers
by monotone reason
for fritchenless thought

On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 2:57:50 PM UTC-4, Daniel Pehoushek wrote:
> so - needs formal definition before i can use it as a symbol
> the ^ "to the" operator is uh oh self times this many times
> "" ""
>
>
> On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 2:08:33 PM UTC-4, Daniel Pehoushek wrote:
> > 0123 are called light numbers
> > 0/1 1/1 1/2 1/3 0 1 1/2 1/3 are called light unit fractions
> > a lattice may be used to lighten all dark fractions
> > all fractions plus all counting numbers are light
> >
> > - is a formal operation on formal structures (nums)
> > in bob nums cycle around one ^ thirty two as zero
> > i would say - needs formal definition
> > i avoid using it in pspace solver bob
> > daniel
> > On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 1:58:11 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > > On 7/17/2021 1:54 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 7:43:38 PM UTC-7, Dan Christensen wrote:
> > > >> 1 - 2 is every bit as real as 1 -:- 2. Deal with it, Clown Boy.
> > > >
> > > > No. You cannot take more than 1 from 1 you moron...
> > > > There is no more to take from..
> > > You can with electric charge. 1 coulomb - 2 coulombs = -1 coulomb.
> > > You have been told that repeatedly, and you have never been able to
> > > refute it. Deal with it.

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so pull the wool off of the eyes of rule by fear as a principle of government growth
state universitys shall become better than private
investment position for fifty year planning
buy procter and gamble
buy gold volume
buy silver
buy copper
daniel
little d

On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 3:14:11 PM UTC-4, Daniel Pehoushek wrote:
> monotone reason is reason without negation in any form
> the letters are elements zero through twenty siv of
> the momday alphabet abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvw yz0
> monotone formulas rule throughout the systems lords of all heavens
> twenty seven is the third power of gods favorite number
> ages three times three through four times four
> are all gods good young years
> 0123 are called light numbers
> by monotone reason
> for fritchenless thought
> On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 2:57:50 PM UTC-4, Daniel Pehoushek wrote:
> > so - needs formal definition before i can use it as a symbol
> > the ^ "to the" operator is uh oh self times this many times
> > "" ""
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 2:08:33 PM UTC-4, Daniel Pehoushek wrote:
> > > 0123 are called light numbers
> > > 0/1 1/1 1/2 1/3 0 1 1/2 1/3 are called light unit fractions
> > > a lattice may be used to lighten all dark fractions
> > > all fractions plus all counting numbers are light
> > >
> > > - is a formal operation on formal structures (nums)
> > > in bob nums cycle around one ^ thirty two as zero
> > > i would say - needs formal definition
> > > i avoid using it in pspace solver bob
> > > daniel
> > > On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 1:58:11 PM UTC-4, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > > > On 7/17/2021 1:54 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 7:43:38 PM UTC-7, Dan Christensen wrote:
> > > > >> 1 - 2 is every bit as real as 1 -:- 2. Deal with it, Clown Boy.
> > > > >
> > > > > No. You cannot take more than 1 from 1 you moron...
> > > > > There is no more to take from..
> > > > You can with electric charge. 1 coulomb - 2 coulombs = -1 coulomb.
> > > > You have been told that repeatedly, and you have never been able to
> > > > refute it. Deal with it.

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 by: Bud W Thacker - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 19:33 UTC

Michael Moroney wrote:

> On 7/17/2021 1:54 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 7:43:38 PM UTC-7, Dan Christensen wrote:
>>> 1 - 2 is every bit as real as 1 -:- 2. Deal with it, Clown Boy.
>>
>> No. You cannot take more than 1 from 1 you moron...
>> There is no more to take from..
>
> You can with electric charge. 1 coulomb - 2 coulombs = -1 coulomb.
> You have been told that repeatedly, and you have never been able to
> refute it. Deal with it.

The fakest moon landing you ever see. They think you are stupid, so much
indeed.

richard branson fakes getting the shot and other fun stuff
https://www.bitchute.com/video/HuB5U3Bw27NO/

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+The fakest moon landing you ever see. They think you are stupid, so much
+indeed.
in 1969 the moon landing was very real
in 2001 9/11 was real
in 2002 introduction to qspace was real
in 2021 the model counting competition did nay use validated model counts organized by smart men
never forget these memories from god children

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 by: Michael Moroney - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 21:00 UTC

On 7/17/2021 2:07 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 10:58:11 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> On 7/17/2021 1:54 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 7:43:38 PM UTC-7, Dan Christensen wrote:
>>>> 1 - 2 is every bit as real as 1 -:- 2. Deal with it, Clown Boy.
>>>
>>> No. You cannot take more than 1 from 1 you moron...
>>> There is no more to take from..
>> You can with electric charge. 1 coulomb - 2 coulombs = -1 coulomb.
>
> That might be true

Of course it's true. Electric charge can be represented with positive
and negative charges.

> but that is a relative.

Nothing relative about it. 5 coulombs is 5 coulombs, absolutely. And -3
coulombs is absolutely -3 coulombs. As I said (which you snipped), you
have never been able to refute it. Deal with it.

> At absolute zero there is nothing left to take from...

For apples in a basket, yes. But not everything is apples in a basket.

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 by: Bud W Thacker - Sat, 17 Jul 2021 21:01 UTC

Daniel Pehoushek wrote:

> +The fakest moon landing you ever see. They think you are stupid, so
> much +indeed.
> in 1969 the moon landing was very real in 2001 9/11 was real in 2002
> introduction to qspace was real in 2021 the model counting competition
> did nay use validated model counts organized by smart men never forget
> these memories from god children

You missed your 2nd dose vaccine. Actually, there is no threshold at
which these injection are to be canceled due SAFETY reasons. According to
VAERS data, about 11,000 good americans died already in the process.
That's 1%, so the real number is ABOVE *one_million* good american souls.
All previous "vaccines" where canceled before 4 - 5 deaths.

Thus, you may safely conclude, this poison is not meant to be canceled.

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On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 2:00:21 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> On 7/17/2021 2:07 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 10:58:11 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> >> On 7/17/2021 1:54 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 7:43:38 PM UTC-7, Dan Christensen wrote:
> >>>> 1 - 2 is every bit as real as 1 -:- 2. Deal with it, Clown Boy.
> >>>
> >>> No. You cannot take more than 1 from 1 you moron...
> >>> There is no more to take from..
> >> You can with electric charge. 1 coulomb - 2 coulombs = -1 coulomb.
> >
> > That might be true
> Of course it's true. Electric charge can be represented with positive
> and negative charges.

Then what is its absolute zero?

> > but that is a relative.
> Nothing relative about it. 5 coulombs is 5 coulombs, absolutely. And -3
> coulombs is absolutely -3 coulombs. As I said (which you snipped), you
> have never been able to refute it. Deal with it.

That has its own zero relative in between...

> > At absolute zero there is nothing left to take from...
> For apples in a basket, yes. But not everything is apples in a basket.

As apples have a quantity they would apply like every quantity does.
If you take everything away there is nothing left to take from..

Mitchell Raemsch

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+ then what is its absolute zero?
typedef unsigned long num;
const num one = (num)true;
const num zero = one >> one;
const num two = one + one + (one >> one);
const num three = two + one;
//let there be light numbers 0123
+ then what is its absolute zero?
one down one bit is zero
just after one is true
in bob source code
for solving
pspace
and
np

revised relativization theorem page 185 garey and johnson:
P=NP for small n
P!=NP for large N

daniel d

On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 7:03:57 PM UTC-4, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 2:00:21 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > On 7/17/2021 2:07 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 10:58:11 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > >> On 7/17/2021 1:54 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>> On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 7:43:38 PM UTC-7, Dan Christensen wrote:
> > >>>> 1 - 2 is every bit as real as 1 -:- 2. Deal with it, Clown Boy.
> > >>>
> > >>> No. You cannot take more than 1 from 1 you moron...
> > >>> There is no more to take from..
> > >> You can with electric charge. 1 coulomb - 2 coulombs = -1 coulomb.
> > >
> > > That might be true
> > Of course it's true. Electric charge can be represented with positive
> > and negative charges.
> Then what is its absolute zero?
> > > but that is a relative.
> > Nothing relative about it. 5 coulombs is 5 coulombs, absolutely. And -3
> > coulombs is absolutely -3 coulombs. As I said (which you snipped), you
> > have never been able to refute it. Deal with it.
> That has its own zero relative in between...
> > > At absolute zero there is nothing left to take from...
> > For apples in a basket, yes. But not everything is apples in a basket.
> As apples have a quantity they would apply like every quantity does.
> If you take everything away there is nothing left to take from..
>
>
> Mitchell Raemsch

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On Sat Jul 17 11:24:00 2021 "mitchr...@gmail.com" wrote:
> On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 11:10:58 AM UTC-7, Earle Jones wrote:
> > On Sat Jul 17 11:07:31 2021 "mitchr...@gmail.com" wrote:
> > > On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 10:58:11 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
> > > > On 7/17/2021 1:54 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 7:43:38 PM UTC-7, Dan Christensen wrote:
> > > > >> 1 - 2 is every bit as real as 1 -:- 2. Deal with it, Clown Boy.
> > > > >
> > > > > No. You cannot take more than 1 from 1 you moron...
> > > > > There is no more to take from..
> > > > You can with electric charge. 1 coulomb - 2 coulombs = -1 coulomb.
> > >
> > > That might be true but that is a relative.
> > > At absolute zero there is nothing left to take from...
> > >
> > > Mitchell Raemsch
> > *
> > Mitchell: You have a childish view of subtraction -- in fact, you have a childish view of all mathematics.
>
>
> Zero math is a win. No more quantity left to subtract from you moron...
> The only things negative are using the subtraction of quantity operation.
>
> Mitchell Raemsch
> > *

Mitchell:

The term "absolute zero" is used typically by physicists with reference to temperature.

It has no meaning in mathematics.

Learn before you teach.

earle
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 by: Michael Moroney - Sun, 18 Jul 2021 05:44 UTC

On 7/17/2021 7:03 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 2:00:21 PM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>> On 7/17/2021 2:07 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 10:58:11 AM UTC-7, Michael Moroney wrote:
>>>> On 7/17/2021 1:54 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Friday, July 16, 2021 at 7:43:38 PM UTC-7, Dan Christensen wrote:
>>>>>> 1 - 2 is every bit as real as 1 -:- 2. Deal with it, Clown Boy.
>>>>>
>>>>> No. You cannot take more than 1 from 1 you moron...
>>>>> There is no more to take from..
>>>> You can with electric charge. 1 coulomb - 2 coulombs = -1 coulomb.
>>>
>>> That might be true
>> Of course it's true. Electric charge can be represented with positive
>> and negative charges.
>
> Then what is its absolute zero?

It is a temperature where there is no thermal energy. Google it.
That phrase (absolute zero) has no meaning for electric charge, it has
meaning only for temperature.
>
>>> but that is a relative.
>> Nothing relative about it. 5 coulombs is 5 coulombs, absolutely. And -3
>> coulombs is absolutely -3 coulombs. As I said (which you snipped), you
>> have never been able to refute it. Deal with it.
>
> That has its own zero relative in between...

Nothing relative about it. Zero is zero. No electric charge.
>
>>> At absolute zero there is nothing left to take from...
>> For apples in a basket, yes. But not everything is apples in a basket.
>
> As apples have a quantity they would apply like every quantity does.

But not everything is apples. Charge can be negative. Bank accounts can
be negative. Force can be negative. Even businesses with a backorder
system can have negative inventory.

> If you take everything away there is nothing left to take from..

For apples in a basket, yes, but not for bank accounts or electric
charge or force. Deal with it. You can't refute it.

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On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 5:01:53 AM UTC-4, Noble Landon wrote:
> Dan Christensen wrote:
>
> >> But that is not quantity as mathematical reality.
> >
> > O̶o̶o̶o̶p̶s̶! S̶p̶o̶k̶e̶ t̶o̶o̶ s̶o̶o̶n̶...
> >
> > 1 - 2 i̶s̶ e̶v̶e̶r̶y̶ b̶i̶t̶ a̶s̶ r̶e̶a̶l̶ a̶s̶ 1 -:- 2. D̶e̶a̶l̶ w̶i̶t̶h̶ i̶t̶, C̶l̶o̶w̶n̶ B̶o̶y̶.
> >
> > Dan
>
> Not in physics...

Temperatures (physics) below zero (e.g. -20 degrees C) are a physical reality here in Canada. No, we will not convert our weather forecasts to degrees K just to satisfy the cranks here.

Dan

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Dan Christensen wrote:

> On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 5:01:53 AM UTC-4, Noble Landon wrote:
>> Dan Christensen wrote:
>>
>> >> But that is not quantity as mathematical reality.
>> >
>> > O̶o̶o̶o̶p̶s̶! S̶p̶o̶k̶e̶ t̶o̶o̶ s̶o̶o̶n̶...
>> >
>> > 1 - 2 i̶s̶ e̶v̶e̶r̶y̶ b̶i̶t̶ a̶s̶ r̶e̶a̶l̶ a̶s̶ 1 -:- 2. D̶e̶a̶l̶
>> > w̶i̶t̶h̶ i̶t̶, C̶l̶o̶w̶n̶ B̶o̶y̶.
>> >
>> > Dan
>>
>> Not in physics...
>
> Ṫ̸̡̤̉̐̽e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝m̷̢͈̣̠̃̔̓́͛͒͂̽p̷̛̻̺̝͂̓̎́̕͝e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝r̸̡̹͚̣͔͍̮̩͌͐͝à̶̜̲̈́͂̓̎͗̽t̵̨̺̺̬̝̝̠̣̔͌̍̔̃͗́̚ͅu̸̲͓̫̙̘͉̾̈̎̇̃̽̍̃͝͝r̸̡̹͚̣͔͍̮̩͌͐͝e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝s̸̗͙̤͍̩̤͍͍̝̖̃̐̽̌̕ (p̷̛̻̺̝͂̓̎́̕͝h̷͓̗̜͚̤̣͉̦̐̈͊͗͒̓͋̑͆̕y̷̢̛̪͈͒̆͝s̸̗͙̤͍̩̤͍͍̝̖̃̐̽̌̕i̶̢͑̄̈́̾̾̅̕c̷̯̬̮̼͆͊͋̆̊͝s̸̗͙̤͍̩̤͍͍̝̖̃̐̽̌̕) ḇ̷̛̠͂̾̄̓e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝l̷̡̧̢̙͈͍͈͈̉̄͋̔̉̆͝ỏ̵̝̫̹̱̲̻̗͉̓͒͘̕ẉ̸̣̘͙̍̕ z̶̢̟͉̰̮̺̮̔̀͂͒̏̊̏̅̒̅A̸͕̘̻̠͎͍̾̄̉̈́̐͐̚͝ͅB̶̖̓̎͝C̵̨̨͓͇̹͖͙̘͐̓̆͜͠D̴̜̖̹̹̖̩̗͈̔͆͗͊̾̽͝E̸͙͖͕͐̔F̷̨̻̃͛̑͑̅́̓͒G̸̩̪̳͆̏H̴͎͎̦͒͑̕͠ͅI̴̡̛̲͙͖̭͑͛͐J̶̢̡̳̹͚̬̼̙͖̒͜Ḱ̷̛̝̭̈́̾̏̽̕̚L̴͈̜͍̟̜̪͌̑͋͛̋̔̊͘M̴̡̺̀͗͐͒̃ͅN̵͎̞͙̳̘͕̭̏͋̇̏̈́͘͝͝Ơ̷̙̠͇͇̼̯̖̦̌̑̊͗P̷̟̳̝̩̦͉̳̈́̽͋͝Q̶͕̳̗̦͆̋͐̓͊̇̓̊͝R̷̠͕̼̀́͌S̴̡͈͎̬͍̥͈̣͑̾͋Ṫ̸̡̤̉̐̽U̷̢̱͒̕V̴̜̘̑͑͗͝W̷
̢̭̞̺̻̬̝͉̳͈̽͊̈́X̵̨̦̘̫̠͔̟̪̙́͑͆͝Y̶̘̓̔͆̿Z̴̤̜̫̯̥͕̜̝̝̈̀͂̋͘ͅe̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝r̸̡̹͚̣͔͍̮̩͌͐͝ỏ̵̝̫̹̱̲̻̗͉̓͒͘̕ (e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝.g̶͎̲̲͎͍͈̱͔̭̾. -20
ḑ̶̙͇̰̗̦̠̽e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝g̶͎̲̲͎͍͈̱͔̭̾r̸̡̹͚̣͔͍̮̩͌͐͝e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝s̸̗͙̤͍̩̤͍͍̝̖̃̐̽̌̕ C̵̨̨͓͇̹͖͙̘͐̓̆͜͠) à̶̜̲̈́͂̓̎͗̽r̸̡̹͚̣͔͍̮̩͌͐͝e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝ à̶̜̲̈́͂̓̎͗̽ p̷̛̻̺̝͂̓̎́̕͝h̷͓̗̜͚̤̣͉̦̐̈͊͗͒̓͋̑͆̕y̷̢̛̪͈͒̆͝s̸̗͙̤͍̩̤͍͍̝̖̃̐̽̌̕i̶̢͑̄̈́̾̾̅̕c̷̯̬̮̼͆͊͋̆̊͝à̶̜̲̈́͂̓̎͗̽l̷̡̧̢̙͈͍͈͈̉̄͋̔̉̆͝
> r̸̡̹͚̣͔͍̮̩͌͐͝e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝à̶̜̲̈́͂̓̎͗̽l̷̡̧̢̙͈͍͈͈̉̄͋̔̉̆͝i̶̢͑̄̈́̾̾̅̕t̵̨̺̺̬̝̝̠̣̔͌̍̔̃͗́̚ͅy̷̢̛̪͈͒̆͝ h̷͓̗̜͚̤̣͉̦̐̈͊͗͒̓͋̑͆̕e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝r̸̡̹͚̣͔͍̮̩͌͐͝e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝ i̶̢͑̄̈́̾̾̅̕n̸̢͙̯͓̝͔̣͈̓̄̆̀̓̈̾̕͜ C̵̨̨͓͇̹͖͙̘͐̓̆͜͠à̶̜̲̈́͂̓̎͗̽n̸̢͙̯͓̝͔̣͈̓̄̆̀̓̈̾̕͜à̶̜̲̈́͂̓̎͗̽ḑ̶̙͇̰̗̦̠̽à̶̜̲̈́͂̓̎͗̽. N̵͎̞͙̳̘͕̭̏͋̇̏̈́͘͝͝ỏ̵̝̫̹̱̲̻̗͉̓͒͘̕, ẉ̸̣̘͙̍̕e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝ ẉ̸̣̘͙̍̕i̶̢͑̄̈́̾̾̅̕l̷̡̧̢̙͈͍͈͈̉̄͋̔̉̆͝l̷̡̧̢̙͈͍͈͈̉̄͋̔̉̆͝ n̸̢͙̯͓̝͔̣͈̓̄̆̀̓̈̾̕͜ỏ̵̝̫̹̱̲̻̗͉̓͒͘̕t̵̨̺̺̬̝̝̠̣̔͌̍̔̃͗́̚ͅ c̷̯̬̮̼͆͊͋̆̊͝ỏ̵̝̫̹̱̲̻̗͉̓͒͘̕n̸̢͙̯͓̝͔̣͈̓̄̆̀̓̈̾̕͜v̶͙͗͒̿̌̆̐͝e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝r̸̡̹͚̣͔͍̮̩͌͐͝t̵̨̺̺̬̝̝̠̣̔͌̍̔̃͗́̚ͅ ỏ̵̝̫̹̱̲̻̗͉̓͒͘̕u̸̲͓̫̙̘͉̾̈̎̇̃̽̍̃͝͝r̸̡̹͚̣͔͍̮̩͌͐͝ ẉ̸̣̘͙̍̕e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝a
̶̜̲̀̈́͂̓̎͗̽t̵̨̺̺̬̝̝̠̣̔͌̍̔̃͗́̚ͅh̷͓̗̜͚̤̣͉̦̐̈͊͗͒̓͋̑͆̕e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝r̸̡̹͚̣͔͍̮̩͌͐͝ f̴̡̱̣͇̙̹͆́́͘͝͠ỏ̵̝̫̹̱̲̻̗͉̓͒͘̕r̸̡̹͚̣͔͍̮̩͌͐͝e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝c̷̯̬̮̼͆͊͋̆̊͝à̶̜̲̈́͂̓̎͗̽s̸̗͙̤͍̩̤͍͍̝̖̃̐̽̌̕t̵̨̺̺̬̝̝̠̣̔͌̍̔̃͗́̚ͅs̸̗͙̤͍̩̤͍͍̝̖̃̐̽̌̕ t̵̨̺̺̬̝̝̠̣̔͌̍̔̃͗́̚ͅỏ̵̝̫̹̱̲̻̗͉̓͒͘̕
> ḑ̶̙͇̰̗̦̠̽e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝g̶͎̲̲͎͍͈̱͔̭̾r̸̡̹͚̣͔͍̮̩͌͐͝e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝s̸̗͙̤͍̩̤͍͍̝̖̃̐̽̌̕ Ḱ̷̛̝̭̈́̾̏̽̕̚ j̶̛̪̽̑̓̏̽̌u̸̲͓̫̙̘͉̾̈̎̇̃̽̍̃͝͝s̸̗͙̤͍̩̤͍͍̝̖̃̐̽̌̕t̵̨̺̺̬̝̝̠̣̔͌̍̔̃͗́̚ͅ t̵̨̺̺̬̝̝̠̣̔͌̍̔̃͗́̚ͅỏ̵̝̫̹̱̲̻̗͉̓͒͘̕ s̸̗͙̤͍̩̤͍͍̝̖̃̐̽̌̕à̶̜̲̈́͂̓̎͗̽t̵̨̺̺̬̝̝̠̣̔͌̍̔̃͗́̚ͅi̶̢͑̄̈́̾̾̅̕s̸̗͙̤͍̩̤͍͍̝̖̃̐̽̌̕f̴̡̱̣͇̙̹͆́́͘͝͠y̷̢̛̪͈͒̆͝ t̵̨̺̺̬̝̝̠̣̔͌̍̔̃͗́̚ͅh̷͓̗̜͚̤̣͉̦̐̈͊͗͒̓͋̑͆̕e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝ c̷̯̬̮̼͆͊͋̆̊͝r̸̡̹͚̣͔͍̮̩͌͐͝à̶̜̲̈́͂̓̎͗̽n̸̢͙̯͓̝͔̣͈̓̄̆̀̓̈̾̕͜k̸̢̯͍͎͐s̸̗͙̤͍̩̤͍͍̝̖̃̐̽̌̕ h̷͓̗̜͚̤̣͉̦̐̈͊͗͒̓͋̑͆̕e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝r̸̡̹͚̣͔͍̮̩͌͐͝e̵̢͕͕̯̱̥͔̎̋̂̎͐̅͐̂͝.

Only because you are an idiot, and can't read. Is been said to you that's
a mater of establishing a point on a scale of an *instrument*, fucking
stupid. In physics temperatures are in Kelvin, all positive.

One more proof the uneducated idiot you are. Demand your school money
back,

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 by: Dan Christensen - Sun, 18 Jul 2021 13:52 UTC

On Sunday, July 18, 2021 at 9:47:40 AM UTC-4, Bud W Thacker wrote:
> Dan Christensen wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 5:01:53 AM UTC-4, Noble Landon wrote:
> >> Dan Christensen wrote:
> >>
> >> >> But that is not quantity as mathematical reality.
> >> >
> >> > O̶o̶o̶o̶p̶s̶! S̶p̶o̶k̶e̶ t̶o̶o̶ s̶o̶o̶n̶...
> >> >
> >> > 1 - 2 i̶s̶ e̶v̶e̶r̶y̶ b̶i̶t̶ a̶s̶ r̶e̶a̶l̶ a̶s̶ 1 -:- 2. D̶e̶a̶l̶
> >> > w̶i̶t̶h̶ i̶t̶, C̶l̶o̶w̶n̶ B̶o̶y̶.
> >> >
> >> > Dan
> >>
> >> Not in physics...
> >
> > Temperatures (physics) below zABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZero (e.g. -20
> degrees C) are a physical
> > reality here in Canada. No, we will not convert our weather forecasts to
> > degrees K just to satisfy the cranks here.
> Only because you are an idiot, and can't read. Is been said to you that's
> a mater of establishing a point on a scale of an *instrument*, fucking
> stupid. In physics temperatures are in Kelvin, all positive.
>

Jeez, yer dumb!

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On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 7:49:47 PM UTC+2, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 1:35:20 AM UTC-7, zelos...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > 3 - 9 = -6
> >
> > look, I could go beyond 0!
> >
> That is an overshoot that has to be left out in math.

Really? So in Mitchell's World, we weren't able to state

(3 - 9) + 6 = (3 + (-9)) + 6 = (3 + 6) + (-9) = (3 + 6) - 9 = 9 - 9 = 0 .

Too bad!

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 by: Greg Cunt - Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:18 UTC

On Saturday, July 17, 2021 at 11:01:53 AM UTC+2, Noble Landon wrote:
> Dan Christensen wrote:
> > >
> > > But that is not quantity as mathematical reality.
> > >
> >Oooops! Spoke too soon...
> >
> > 1 - 2 is every bit as real as 1 -:- 2.
> >
> Not in physics, cretin. A negative it's just a matter of establishing the
> position of the ZERO on an arbitrary scale. Dr. Mitchell is talking
> physics, not math.

No, he wasn't dumbo.

Actually, he wrote: "But that is not quantity as mathematical reality."

Btw. What's the charge of an electron?

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron

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