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* Western North American extreme heat virtually impossible withoutFred Bloggs
+* Re: Western North American extreme heat virtually impossible without human-causeJohn Larkin
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 by: Fred Bloggs - Thu, 8 Jul 2021 16:58 UTC

This event is outside the realm of any possible explanation by modern meteorological science. The experts are totally flummoxed. So they default to calling it a 1000 year freak occurrence, they also speculate this type thing will become a 5-10 year event, and that climate change has increased the frequency of such outliers by a factor of 150 minimum. They're actually understating every bit of it. They're dealing with a completely new area of atmospheric physics /Earth interaction and have zero experience with it.

https://www.worldweatherattribution.org/western-north-american-extreme-heat-virtually-impossible-without-human-caused-climate-change/

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 by: John Larkin - Thu, 8 Jul 2021 19:15 UTC

On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 09:58:38 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>This event is outside the realm of any possible explanation by modern meteorological science. The experts are totally flummoxed. So they default to calling it a 1000 year freak occurrence, they also speculate this type thing will become a 5-10 year event, and that climate change has increased the frequency of such outliers by a factor of 150 minimum. They're actually understating every bit of it. They're dealing with a completely new area of atmospheric physics /Earth interaction and have zero experience with it.
>
>https://www.worldweatherattribution.org/western-north-american-extreme-heat-virtually-impossible-without-human-caused-climate-change/

It could just be instrumentation changes over the last 1000 years.

San Francisco has moved its official weather station about 5 times so
far, always into a warmer part of town. A forest of giagantic
buildings surround it now. Not much vegitation now.

Or maybe we're all dead.

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 by: John Doe - Thu, 8 Jul 2021 21:33 UTC

Temperatures here have been well below normal for four months.

We are almost 8 inches above the normal rainfall for the calendar year.

It's like not July.

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 by: Anthony William Slom - Fri, 9 Jul 2021 03:16 UTC

On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 5:15:38 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 09:58:38 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >This event is outside the realm of any possible explanation by modern meteorological science. The experts are totally flummoxed. So they default to calling it a 1000 year freak occurrence, they also speculate this type thing will become a 5-10 year event, and that climate change has increased the frequency of such outliers by a factor of 150 minimum. They're actually understating every bit of it. They're dealing with a completely new area of atmospheric physics /Earth interaction and have zero experience with it.
> >
> >https://www.worldweatherattribution.org/western-north-american-extreme-heat-virtually-impossible-without-human-caused-climate-change/
>
> It could just be instrumentation changes over the last 1000 years.

There wasn't any instrumentation around a thousand years ago. There are lots of climate proxies from the sedimentary record - Greenland and Antarctic ice cores were an early example. Michael Mann was an early exponent, and the climate change denial propaganda creeps went for him in a big way, but his "hockey-stick" has now been replicated by some two dozen completely independent studies.

Denialist propaganda sources like Anthony Watts do like to ignore this, and that's where John Larkin gets his misinformation.

> San Francisco has moved its official weather station about 5 times so far, always into a warmer part of town. A forest of gigantic
buildings surround it now. Not much vegetation now.

And Anthony Watts is deeply distressed about it, and people who know what they are talking about aren't. Grow up.
> Or maybe we're all dead.

You do seem to be brain-dead. Or at least terminally gullible.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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On Thursday, July 8, 2021 at 12:15:38 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

> San Francisco has moved its official weather station about 5 times so
> far, always into a warmer part of town. A forest of giagantic
> buildings surround it now. Not much vegitation now.

The official Seattle weather station is now MUCH closer to a
Starbucks coffee outlet than in the '60s. And, the clams at the
Duwamish outlet aren't recommended eating any more.

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 by: John Larkin - Fri, 9 Jul 2021 17:50 UTC

On Thu, 8 Jul 2021 21:51:35 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thursday, July 8, 2021 at 12:15:38 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
>
>> San Francisco has moved its official weather station about 5 times so
>> far, always into a warmer part of town. A forest of giagantic
>> buildings surround it now. Not much vegitation now.
>
>The official Seattle weather station is now MUCH closer to a
>Starbucks coffee outlet than in the '60s.

Makes sense. Starbucks was founded in 1971.

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Your spamming has become exceptionally bad lately, mate. Sorry.

<PLONK>

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On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 6:54:09 PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> Your spamming has become exceptionally bad lately, mate. Sorry.
>
> <PLONK>

Trust Cursitor Doom to plonk somebody without specifying who he is plonking. And he seems to imagine that him stopping his stream of inane comments is something that he needs to apologise for. Trolls are odd.

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 by: Cursitor Doom - Sun, 11 Jul 2021 15:27 UTC

On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 04:47:49 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

>On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 6:54:09 PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
>> Your spamming has become exceptionally bad lately, mate. Sorry.
>>
>> <PLONK>
>
>Trust Cursitor Doom to plonk somebody without specifying who he is plonking.

Bloggs. It's become bloody ridiculous lately. The Globalists don't
need to control the mainstream media with useful idiots like him
enthusiastically spreading their propaganda for them.

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 by: Fred Bloggs - Sun, 11 Jul 2021 16:44 UTC

On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 4:54:09 AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> Your spamming has become exceptionally bad lately, mate. Sorry.
>
> <PLONK>

This is like throwing holy water on a witch.

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 by: Anthony William Slom - Mon, 12 Jul 2021 06:13 UTC

On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 1:28:03 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 04:47:49 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman
> <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
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> >On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 6:54:09 PM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> >> Your spamming has become exceptionally bad lately, mate. Sorry.
> >>
> >> <PLONK>
> >
> >Trust Cursitor Doom to plonk somebody without specifying who he is plonking.
>
> Bloggs. It's become bloody ridiculous lately. The Globalists don't need to control the mainstream media with useful idiots like him enthusiastically spreading their propaganda for them.

If there were any Globalists - outside of Cursitor Doom's fertile imagination - they wouldn't have to get to control the mainstream media to get them to spread the kind of factual information that Fred Bloggs picks up and posts.

It isn't the kind of idiotic mis-information that Cursitor Doom would like to see spread. He likes sources like the Daily Mail, Russia Today and Zero Hedge that exist to exploit the kind of gullible idiot that has an insatiable desire for dramatic nonsense of a particularly implausible kind - like the fatuous conspiracy theory about an international band of Globalists, which is the kind of fantasy that really appeals to Cursitor Doom.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

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