Carbon Removal Obligations

Wishful thinking does not account for the depths of corporate depravity and corruption.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrvetter/2021/07/09/could-this-revolutionary-idea-pay-our-climate-change-debt-and-supercharge-co2-reductions/?sh=7c96c4e5640a

Anyone who develops carbon removal technology that can be applied on a massive scale at reasonable cost, is going to end up with more money than there is in circulation.

On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 06:22:15 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>Carbon Removal Obligations
>
>Wishful thinking does not account for the depths of corporate depravity and corruption.
>
>https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrvetter/2021/07/09/could-this-revolutionary-idea-pay-our-climate-change-debt-and-supercharge-co2-reductions/?sh=7c96c4e5640a
>
>Anyone who develops carbon removal technology that can be applied on a massive scale at reasonable cost, is going to end up with more money than there is in circulation.

Get the Chinese and the Indians to sign up.

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John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The best designs are necessarily accidental.

On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 10:51:27 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 06:22:15 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >Carbon Removal Obligations
> >
> >Wishful thinking does not account for the depths of corporate depravity and corruption.
> >
> >https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrvetter/2021/07/09/could-this-revolutionary-idea-pay-our-climate-change-debt-and-supercharge-co2-reductions/?sh=7c96c4e5640a
> >
> >Anyone who develops carbon removal technology that can be applied on a massive scale at reasonable cost, is going to end up with more money than there is in circulation.
> Get the Chinese and the Indians to sign up.

It won't be a voluntary commitment. They either comply or they are prohibited from trading with the countries that do comply. There's power in alliances.

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>
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> --
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> John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc
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> The best designs are necessarily accidental.

On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 07:51:17 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

>On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 06:22:15 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
><bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Carbon Removal Obligations
>>
>>Wishful thinking does not account for the depths of corporate depravity and corruption.
>>
>>https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrvetter/2021/07/09/could-this-revolutionary-idea-pay-our-climate-change-debt-and-supercharge-co2-reductions/?sh=7c96c4e5640a
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>>Anyone who develops carbon removal technology that can be applied on a massive scale at reasonable cost, is going to end up with more money than there is in circulation.
>
>Get the Chinese and the Indians to sign up.

If Mr. Bloggs actually took the trouble to look into this business
*thoroughly* - using historical printed sources instead of relying on
some pile of crap like Wikipedia, he would have learned by now that
there is no more 'carbon' in the atmosphere than there was at the end
of the 19th century. But no one wants to do *proper* research these
days, it seems. :(

On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 1:17:13 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 07:51:17 -0700, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
> wrote:
> >On Sun, 11 Jul 2021 06:22:15 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> ><bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Carbon Removal Obligations
> >>
> >>Wishful thinking does not account for the depths of corporate depravity and corruption.
> >>
> >>https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrvetter/2021/07/09/could-this-revolutionary-idea-pay-our-climate-change-debt-and-supercharge-co2-reductions/?sh=7c96c4e5640a
> >>
> >>Anyone who develops carbon removal technology that can be applied on a massive scale at reasonable cost, is going to end up with more money than there is in circulation.
> >
> >Get the Chinese and the Indians to sign up.
>
> If Mr. Bloggs actually took the trouble to look into this business
> *thoroughly* - using historical printed sources instead of relying on
> some pile of crap like Wikipedia, he would have learned by now that
> there is no more 'carbon' in the atmosphere than there was at the end
> of the 19th century. But no one wants to do *proper* research these
> days, it seems. :(

Cursitor Doom can't manage it. The "proper research" he seems to be talking about seems to have consisted of cherry picking a few results published at the end of the 19th century, based the rather clumsy technology available at the time.

Charles David Keeling used an infra-red absorbtion technique which is a lot faster and easier and at least as accurate, which only became available in the 1950's, and took enough measurements to realise that what you measure in easily accessible locations tend to be erratic.

He finally put his observatory close to the top of Mauna Loa in Hawai where the observations were stable (if a bit dependent on the time of the year). There's now another - similar - observatory at Cape Grim on the extreme north western tip of Tasmania, where the wind blows across a couple of thousand miles of the Indian ocean and delivers equally consistent results.

Since Keeling got his series of measurements running, other people have worked out how to get historical CO2 levels out of ice cores produced by drilling down through the Greenland ice sheet, which takes us back 130,000 years and through the Antarctic ice sheet which takes us back about 800,000 years.

They show that inter-glacial periods have a typical CO2 level around 270 ppm, and ice ages around 180 ppm. The current level is 415 ppm.

Cursitor Doom is great at finding the result he wants. Less good at finding data that anybody sane would trust.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney