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by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Sun, 12 Sep 2021 19:43 UTC

The astronaut has to shrink... but his atomic
chemistry would be affected. That should not
happen.

Is length contraction real?
If relativity is a shared separation and converging back equal
both sides would have the equal speed length contraction.

What about man's future near light speed space ship
losing it's dimensions? How can people fit
if that happens? Either people shrinking is real
or length contract doesn't exist.
Instead of spaghetti... atoms go flat
falling into a BH boundary gravity.
By Gamma expansion should happen
beyond light speed completely flat atom.
FTL gamma math would do the atoms re expansion
order...

Mitchell Raemsch

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by: Emmet Kahl - Sun, 12 Sep 2021 20:39 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> The astronaut has to shrink... but his atomic chemistry would be
> affected. That should not happen. Is length contraction real?
> If relativity is a shared separation and converging back equal both
> sides would have the equal speed length contraction.

you mix tutifruti, there are 2 kind, a one because the speed, then the
other because the curvature gradient (perpendicular). Real both as much
as it can be, and it nothing to do with chemistry.

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On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 1:39:32 PM UTC-7, Emmet Kahl wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > The astronaut has to shrink... but his atomic chemistry would be
> > affected. That should not happen. Is length contraction real?
> > If relativity is a shared separation and converging back equal both
> > sides would have the equal speed length contraction.
> you mix tutifruti, there are 2 kind, a one because the speed, then the
> other because the curvature gradient (perpendicular). Real both as much
> as it can be, and it nothing to do with chemistry.

If length contraction is real it would have a consequence on chemistry.

Mitchell Raemsch

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by: Sylvia Else - Mon, 13 Sep 2021 01:36 UTC

On 12-Sep-21 5:59 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> the original room in it would shrink.
> How big does it have to be before
> accelerating... for the astronaut?
>
> Mitchell Raemsch
>

Nothing happens to the spaceship. It does not contract. That is not what
relativity says.

Sylvia.

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by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Mon, 13 Sep 2021 02:29 UTC

On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 6:36:47 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 12-Sep-21 5:59 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > the original room in it would shrink.
> > How big does it have to be before
> > accelerating... for the astronaut?
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> >
> Nothing happens to the spaceship. It does not contract. That is not what
> relativity says.

Why not? Either contraction is real or it is not...
and it is not...

Mitchell Raemsch

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by: Sylvia Else - Mon, 13 Sep 2021 02:35 UTC

On 13-Sep-21 12:29 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 6:36:47 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 12-Sep-21 5:59 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> the original room in it would shrink.
>>> How big does it have to be before
>>> accelerating... for the astronaut?
>>>
>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>
>> Nothing happens to the spaceship. It does not contract. That is not what
>> relativity says.
>
> Why not? Either contraction is real or it is not...
> and it is not...
>
> Mitchell Raemsch
>

The contraction consists of a reduction in the length of an object in
one frame as measured from another frame. It is certainly real in that
sense, but it still is not a change to the object.

As an everyday example, the angle subtended by an object in your eye
reduces as the object gets further away. That reduction is real and
measurable, but the object is unaffected.

Sylvia.

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by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Mon, 13 Sep 2021 02:39 UTC

On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 7:35:48 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 13-Sep-21 12:29 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 6:36:47 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 12-Sep-21 5:59 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> the original room in it would shrink.
> >>> How big does it have to be before
> >>> accelerating... for the astronaut?
> >>>
> >>> Mitchell Raemsch
> >>>
> >> Nothing happens to the spaceship. It does not contract. That is not what
> >> relativity says.
> >
> > Why not? Either contraction is real or it is not...
> > and it is not...
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> >
> The contraction consists of a reduction in the length of an object in
> one frame as measured from another frame.

Would both be equal in length contraction
like the Twin paradox?

What Can you show that contraction is real?
No. You are a moron instead...

Mitchell Raemsch

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How do you prove your length contraction is real?

Mitchell Raemsch

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by: Sylvia Else - Mon, 13 Sep 2021 02:52 UTC

On 13-Sep-21 12:39 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 7:35:48 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 13-Sep-21 12:29 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 6:36:47 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 12-Sep-21 5:59 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> the original room in it would shrink.
>>>>> How big does it have to be before
>>>>> accelerating... for the astronaut?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>>>
>>>> Nothing happens to the spaceship. It does not contract. That is not what
>>>> relativity says.
>>>
>>> Why not? Either contraction is real or it is not...
>>> and it is not...
>>>
>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>
>> The contraction consists of a reduction in the length of an object in
>> one frame as measured from another frame.
>
> Would both be equal in length contraction
> like the Twin paradox?
>
> What Can you show that contraction is real?
> No. You are a moron instead...

That is how you always react to an explanation that you don't like. You
resort to insults.

Sylvia.

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by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Mon, 13 Sep 2021 03:06 UTC

On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 7:52:40 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 13-Sep-21 12:39 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 7:35:48 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >> On 13-Sep-21 12:29 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 6:36:47 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
> >>>> On 12-Sep-21 5:59 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>> the original room in it would shrink.
> >>>>> How big does it have to be before
> >>>>> accelerating... for the astronaut?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
> >>>>>
> >>>> Nothing happens to the spaceship. It does not contract. That is not what
> >>>> relativity says.
> >>>
> >>> Why not? Either contraction is real or it is not...
> >>> and it is not...
> >>>
> >>> Mitchell Raemsch
> >>>
> >> The contraction consists of a reduction in the length of an object in
> >> one frame as measured from another frame.
> >
> > Would both be equal in length contraction
> > like the Twin paradox?
> >
> > What Can you show that contraction is real?
> > No. You are a moron instead...
> That is how you always react to an explanation that you don't like. You
> resort to insults.
>
> Sylvia.

You get what you deserve Sylvia...
Where is your evidence for your claim that length contraction is real?

Mitchell Raemsch

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by: Sylvia Else - Mon, 13 Sep 2021 04:35 UTC

On 13-Sep-21 1:06 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 7:52:40 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 13-Sep-21 12:39 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 7:35:48 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 13-Sep-21 12:29 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 6:36:47 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>>>> On 12-Sep-21 5:59 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>> the original room in it would shrink.
>>>>>>> How big does it have to be before
>>>>>>> accelerating... for the astronaut?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing happens to the spaceship. It does not contract. That is not what
>>>>>> relativity says.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why not? Either contraction is real or it is not...
>>>>> and it is not...
>>>>>
>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>>>
>>>> The contraction consists of a reduction in the length of an object in
>>>> one frame as measured from another frame.
>>>
>>> Would both be equal in length contraction
>>> like the Twin paradox?
>>>
>>> What Can you show that contraction is real?
>>> No. You are a moron instead...
>> That is how you always react to an explanation that you don't like. You
>> resort to insults.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> You get what you deserve Sylvia...
> Where is your evidence for your claim that length contraction is real?

So you can write coherent and grammatical sentences.

Oops!

Sylvia.

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by: Loyd Catt - Mon, 13 Sep 2021 12:18 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 1:39:32 PM UTC-7, Emmet Kahl wrote:
>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > The astronaut has to shrink... but his atomic chemistry would be
>> > affected. That should not happen. Is length contraction real?
>> > If relativity is a shared separation and converging back equal both
>> > sides would have the equal speed length contraction.
>> you mix tutifruti, there are 2 kind, a one because the speed, then the
>> other because the curvature gradient (perpendicular). Real both as much
>> as it can be, and it nothing to do with chemistry.
>
> If length contraction is real it would have a consequence on chemistry.

it's about the observations, not changes in chemical reactions or
consistence just by observing it. Think.

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by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Tue, 14 Sep 2021 18:36 UTC

On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 5:18:30 AM UTC-7, Loyd Catt wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 1:39:32 PM UTC-7, Emmet Kahl wrote:
> >> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> > The astronaut has to shrink... but his atomic chemistry would be
> >> > affected. That should not happen. Is length contraction real?
> >> > If relativity is a shared separation and converging back equal both
> >> > sides would have the equal speed length contraction.
> >> you mix tutifruti, there are 2 kind, a one because the speed, then the
> >> other because the curvature gradient (perpendicular). Real both as much
> >> as it can be, and it nothing to do with chemistry.
> >
> > If length contraction is real it would have a consequence on chemistry.
> it's about the observations, not changes in chemical reactions or
> consistence just by observing it. Think.

If you observe it it would have an affect on chemistry...
It is not real...

Mitchell Raemsch

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by: Gale Binz - Tue, 14 Sep 2021 21:14 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

>> >> > The astronaut has to shrink... but his atomic chemistry would be
>> >> > affected. That should not happen. Is length contraction real?
>> >> > If relativity is a shared separation and converging back equal
>> >> > both sides would have the equal speed length contraction.
>> >> you mix tutifruti, there are 2 kind, a one because the speed, then
>> >> the other because the curvature gradient (perpendicular). Real both
>> >> as much as it can be, and it nothing to do with chemistry.
>> >
>> > If length contraction is real it would have a consequence on
>> > chemistry.
>> it's about the observations, not changes in chemical reactions or
>> consistence just by observing it. Think.
>
> If you observe it it would have an affect on chemistry...
> It is not real...

You must have a different apparatus, let me see it.

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On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 2:14:33 PM UTC-7, Gale Binz wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >> >> > The astronaut has to shrink... but his atomic chemistry would be
> >> >> > affected. That should not happen. Is length contraction real?
> >> >> > If relativity is a shared separation and converging back equal
> >> >> > both sides would have the equal speed length contraction.
> >> >> you mix tutifruti, there are 2 kind, a one because the speed, then
> >> >> the other because the curvature gradient (perpendicular). Real both
> >> >> as much as it can be, and it nothing to do with chemistry.
> >> >
> >> > If length contraction is real it would have a consequence on
> >> > chemistry.
> >> it's about the observations, not changes in chemical reactions or
> >> consistence just by observing it. Think.
> >
> > If you observe it it would have an affect on chemistry...
> > It is not real...

How have you measured length contraction?

Mitchell Raemsch

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by: Python - Wed, 15 Sep 2021 01:29 UTC

smitchthevillageidiot@gmail.com schwrote:
> On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 2:14:33 PM UTC-7, Gale Binz wrote:
>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> The astronaut has to shrink... but his atomic chemistry would be
>>>>>>> affected. That should not happen. Is length contraction real?
>>>>>>> If relativity is a shared separation and converging back equal
>>>>>>> both sides would have the equal speed length contraction.
>>>>>> you mix tutifruti, there are 2 kind, a one because the speed, then
>>>>>> the other because the curvature gradient (perpendicular). Real both
>>>>>> as much as it can be, and it nothing to do with chemistry.
>>>>>
>>>>> If length contraction is real it would have a consequence on
>>>>> chemistry.
>>>> it's about the observations, not changes in chemical reactions or
>>>> consistence just by observing it. Think.
>>>
>>> If you observe it it would have an affect on chemistry...
>>> It is not real...
>
> How have you measured length contraction?
>
> Mitchell Raemsch

I told you two days ago, you didn't follow. Are you impaired?

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by: Sylvia Else - Wed, 15 Sep 2021 01:31 UTC

On 13-Sep-21 12:46 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 7:35:48 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 13-Sep-21 12:29 pm, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> On Sunday, September 12, 2021 at 6:36:47 PM UTC-7, Sylvia Else wrote:
>>>> On 12-Sep-21 5:59 am, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> the original room in it would shrink.
>>>>> How big does it have to be before
>>>>> accelerating... for the astronaut?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>>>
>>>> Nothing happens to the spaceship. It does not contract. That is not what
>>>> relativity says.
>>>
>>> Why not? Either contraction is real or it is not...
>>> and it is not...
>>>
>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>
>> The contraction consists of a reduction in the length of an object in
>> one frame as measured from another frame. It is certainly real in that
>> sense, but it still is not a change to the object.
>>
>> As an everyday example, the angle subtended by an object in your eye
>> reduces as the object gets further away. That reduction is real and
>> measurable, but the object is unaffected.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> How do you prove your length contraction is real?
>
> Mitchell Raemsch
>

With the demonstration that your garbled English is in fact deliberate,
you have revealed yourself to be a troll. I can't be bothered with you
any more.

Sylvia.

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by: Gale Binz - Wed, 15 Sep 2021 15:08 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

>> >> > If length contraction is real it would have a consequence on
>> >> > chemistry.
>> >> it's about the observations, not changes in chemical reactions or
>> >> consistence just by observing it. Think.
>> >
>> > If you observe it it would have an affect on chemistry...
>> > It is not real...
>
> How have you measured length contraction?

as usual, with my meterstick in which I trust.

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On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 6:29:05 PM UTC-7, Python wrote:
> smitchthev...@gmail.com schwrote:
> > On Tuesday, September 14, 2021 at 2:14:33 PM UTC-7, Gale Binz wrote:
> >> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>>> The astronaut has to shrink... but his atomic chemistry would be
> >>>>>>> affected. That should not happen. Is length contraction real?
> >>>>>>> If relativity is a shared separation and converging back equal
> >>>>>>> both sides would have the equal speed length contraction.
> >>>>>> you mix tutifruti, there are 2 kind, a one because the speed, then
> >>>>>> the other because the curvature gradient (perpendicular). Real both
> >>>>>> as much as it can be, and it nothing to do with chemistry.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If length contraction is real it would have a consequence on
> >>>>> chemistry.
> >>>> it's about the observations, not changes in chemical reactions or
> >>>> consistence just by observing it. Think.
> >>>
> >>> If you observe it it would have an affect on chemistry...
> >>> It is not real...
> >
> > How have you measured length contraction?
> >
> > Mitchell Raemsch
> I told you two days ago, you didn't follow. Are you impaired?

That is an excuse. There has never been a measurement
of length contracting. Or show otherwise....
Why would you be afraid?

Mitchell Raemsch

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On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 8:08:55 AM UTC-7, Gale Binz wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >> >> > If length contraction is real it would have a consequence on
> >> >> > chemistry.
> >> >> it's about the observations, not changes in chemical reactions or
> >> >> consistence just by observing it. Think.
> >> >
> >> > If you observe it it would have an affect on chemistry...
> >> > It is not real...
> >
> > How have you measured length contraction?
> as usual, with my meterstick in which I trust.

Its never been measured. How are you going
to do it you? Why would you be the exception?

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by: Hardy Kuhn - Wed, 15 Sep 2021 20:31 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 8:08:55 AM UTC-7, Gale Binz wrote:
>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > If length contraction is real it would have a consequence on
>> >> >> > chemistry.
>> >> >> it's about the observations, not changes in chemical reactions or
>> >> >> consistence just by observing it. Think.
>> >> >
>> >> > If you observe it it would have an affect on chemistry...
>> >> > It is not real...
>> >
>> > How have you measured length contraction?
>> as usual, with my meterstick in which I trust.
>
> Its never been measured. How are you going to do it you? Why would you
> be the exception?

it's been. What you see you measure with the meterstick. It's called, if
not mistaken, telemeter and the process telemetry. Let me watch your
meterstick.

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On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 1:31:48 PM UTC-7, Hardy Kuhn wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 8:08:55 AM UTC-7, Gale Binz wrote:
> >> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >> > If length contraction is real it would have a consequence on
> >> >> >> > chemistry.
> >> >> >> it's about the observations, not changes in chemical reactions or
> >> >> >> consistence just by observing it. Think.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > If you observe it it would have an affect on chemistry...
> >> >> > It is not real...
> >> >
> >> > How have you measured length contraction?
> >> as usual, with my meterstick in which I trust.
> >
> > Its never been measured. How are you going to do it you? Why would you
> > be the exception?
> it's been.

No it hasn't. That is you pretending it has instead...
What about a space ship?

Mitchell Raemsch

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On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 2:40:05 PM UTC-7, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 1:31:48 PM UTC-7, Hardy Kuhn wrote:
> > mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 8:08:55 AM UTC-7, Gale Binz wrote:
> > >> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >> >> > If length contraction is real it would have a consequence on
> > >> >> >> > chemistry.
> > >> >> >> it's about the observations, not changes in chemical reactions or
> > >> >> >> consistence just by observing it. Think.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > If you observe it it would have an affect on chemistry...
> > >> >> > It is not real...
> > >> >
> > >> > How have you measured length contraction?
> > >> as usual, with my meterstick in which I trust.
> > >
> > > Its never been measured. How are you going to do it you? Why would you
> > > be the exception?
> > it's been.
> No it hasn't. That is you pretending it has instead...
> What about a space ship?
>
> Mitchell Raemsch

Either length contraction is real or it is not.
And it is not... universal distance cannot go away...
it does expand instead... and that is measured
to be accelerating.

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On 9/15/2021 8:36 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 1:31:48 PM UTC-7, Hardy Kuhn wrote:
>>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, September 15, 2021 at 8:08:55 AM UTC-7, Gale Binz wrote:
>>>>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If length contraction is real it would have a consequence on
>>>>>>>>>> chemistry.
>>>>>>>>> it's about the observations, not changes in chemical reactions or
>>>>>>>>> consistence just by observing it. Think.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you observe it it would have an affect on chemistry...
>>>>>>>> It is not real...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How have you measured length contraction?
>>>>> as usual, with my meterstick in which I trust.
>>>>
>>>> Its never been measured. How are you going to do it you? Why would you
>>>> be the exception?
>>> it's been.
>> No it hasn't. That is you pretending it has instead...
>> What about a space ship?
>>
>> Mitchell Raemsch
>
> Either length contraction is real or it is not.
> And it is not... universal distance cannot go away...
> it does expand instead... and that is measured
> to be accelerating.
>
Mitch, you Roy Masters, in the frame of the spaceship, the spaceship is
stationary and the astronaut and atoms are not squished. However the
astronaut will observe the rest of the universe as being squished!

If you weren't such a chicken, you could google that and actually learn
something for once in your miserable life. But you won't, so you won't.

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