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by: jim - Fri, 10 Sep 2021 17:37 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> efore man's mind.
> All of the way back to the absolute beginning.
> This shows a Mathematical Creator of the universe...
> Gravity does not create the universe. God creates gravity.

in standard model gravity is a force, meanwhile in macro scale it's a
curvature. The question to be asked is whether the other forces, weak and
strong, are also a feature of the curvature of the manifold.

Did you note how big Japan is?

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by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Fri, 10 Sep 2021 22:04 UTC

On Friday, September 10, 2021 at 10:37:50 AM UTC-7, jim wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > efore man's mind.
> > All of the way back to the absolute beginning.
> > This shows a Mathematical Creator of the universe...
> > Gravity does not create the universe. God creates gravity.
> in standard model gravity is a force, meanwhile in macro scale it's a
> curvature. The question to be asked is whether the other forces, weak and
> strong, are also a feature of the curvature of the manifold.

The modern model is not complete.
BHs don't exist. Even according to Kip Thorne
Just a neutronium gravity that pushes
below the universal speed limit for the atom.
God creates gravity to curve the motions of His light and atom....
Gravity has a center of its round. Its metric is not a parabola
as it has no center.

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Subject: Re: Math begins before man at the BB origin
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by: Loyd Catt - Mon, 13 Sep 2021 20:12 UTC

mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

>> in standard model gravity is a force, meanwhile in macro scale it's a
>> curvature. The question to be asked is whether the other forces, weak
>> and strong, are also a feature of the curvature of the manifold.
>
> The modern model is not complete.
> BHs don't exist. Even according to Kip Thorne Just a neutronium gravity
> that pushes below the universal speed limit for the atom.
> God creates gravity to curve the motions of His light and atom....
> Gravity has a center of its round. Its metric is not a parabola as it
> has no center.

not exactly. Gravity is not created, it's not a drift. If it would, you
could in principle CANCEL gravity. Never happened in history. And
therefore "Gravity" just IS.

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by: mitchr...@gmail.com - Mon, 13 Sep 2021 22:17 UTC

On Monday, September 13, 2021 at 1:12:41 PM UTC-7, Loyd Catt wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >> in standard model gravity is a force, meanwhile in macro scale it's a
> >> curvature. The question to be asked is whether the other forces, weak
> >> and strong, are also a feature of the curvature of the manifold.
> >
> > The modern model is not complete.
> > BHs don't exist. Even according to Kip Thorne Just a neutronium gravity
> > that pushes below the universal speed limit for the atom.
> > God creates gravity to curve the motions of His light and atom....
> > Gravity has a center of its round. Its metric is not a parabola as it
> > has no center.
> not exactly. Gravity is not created, it's not a drift. If it would, you
> could in principle CANCEL gravity. Never happened in history. And
> therefore "Gravity" just IS.

Gravity IS created by God like light...
Gravity didn't create the universe because it would be
in the way of it beginning. The BB would not be able
to expand against that infinite gravity. Hawking's
proposal doesn't work...

Mitchell Raemsch

"Ahead warp factor 1" -- Captain Kirk

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Subject	Author
Math begins before man at the BB origin	mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: Math begins before man at the BB origin	jim
Re: Math begins before man at the BB origin	mitchr...@gmail.com
Re: Math begins before man at the BB origin	Loyd Catt
Re: Math begins before man at the BB origin	mitchr...@gmail.com