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* Did Gauss prove Pythagorean theorem false?Maciej Wozniak
+* Re: Did Gauss prove Pythagorean theorem false?Athel Cornish-Bowden
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> > > > > It was Gauss who proved that, toilet water drinker.
> > > > Who proved what,
> > > Gauss, toilet water drunkard
> > Did he prove that
> > Pythagorean theory is false? Really?
> Yep, he did: https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/p/Pythagorean_theorem.htm

A quick test - how many relativistic morons are
rabid enough to support poor idiot Dono?

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From: acorn...@imm.cnrs.fr (Athel Cornish-Bowden)
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 by: Athel Cornish-Bowden - Wed, 22 Sep 2021 14:01 UTC

On 2021-09-22 06:25:36 +0000, Maciej Wozniak said:

>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was Gauss who proved that, toilet water drinker.
>>>>> Who proved what,
>>>> Gauss, toilet water drunkard
>>> Did he prove that
>>> Pythagorean theory is false? Really?
>> Yep, he did:
>> https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/p/Pythagorean_theorem.htm
>>

My newsreader doesn't tell me who wrote that, not Dono., I suspect
(though I could probably find out by putting my hands in the murky
waters of Google Groups). However, I suspect that whoever wrote it
didn't notice the title of the last section: "The Pythagorean theorem
in non-Euclidean geometry." Pythagoras was concerned with Euclidean
geometry.
>
> A quick test - how many relativistic morons are
> rabid enough to support poor idiot Dono?

--
Athel -- French and British, living mainly in England until 1987.

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On Wednesday, 22 September 2021 at 16:01:40 UTC+2, Athel Cornish-Bowden wrote:
> On 2021-09-22 06:25:36 +0000, Maciej Wozniak said:
>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It was Gauss who proved that, toilet water drinker.
> >>>>> Who proved what,
> >>>> Gauss, toilet water drunkard
> >>> Did he prove that
> >>> Pythagorean theory is false? Really?
> >> Yep, he did:
> >> https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/p/Pythagorean_theorem.htm
> >>
> My newsreader doesn't tell me who wrote that, not Dono., I suspect

Sorry, you suspect wrongly; it often happens to brainwashed
fanatics.

On Wednesday, 22 September 2021 at 07:50:36 UTC+2, Dono. wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 10:31:00 PM UTC-7, maluw...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 22 September 2021 at 07:22:48 UTC+2, Dono. wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 6:59:37 AM UTC-7, maluw...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday, 21 September 2021 at 15:18:17 UTC+2, Dono. wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 9:36:52 PM UTC-7, maluw...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > 100+ mathematical PROOFS
> > > > > > that (for any right triangle a^2+b^2=c^2) didn't prevent your
> > > > > > idiot guru from claiming that there are right triangles without
> > > > > > the property.
> > > > > > Of course, Newton didn't produce any PROOF. Nothing has been
> > > > > > ever proven in physics.
> > > > > It was Gauss who proved that, toilet water drinker.
> > > > Who proved what,
> > > Gauss, toilet water drunkard
> > Did he prove that
> > Pythagorean theory is false? Really?
> Yep, he did: https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/p/Pythagorean_theorem.htm
>
> You need to stop drinking and eating from toilets, Wozniak

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On Wednesday, 22 September 2021 at 08:25:38 UTC+2, maluw...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > It was Gauss who proved that, toilet water drinker.
> > > > > Who proved what,
> > > > Gauss, toilet water drunkard
> > > Did he prove that
> > > Pythagorean theory is false? Really?
> > Yep, he did: https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/p/Pythagorean_theorem.htm
>
> A quick test - how many relativistic morons are
> rabid enough to support poor idiot Dono?

The Pythagorean theorem holds in Euclidean geometry...

And you are a resident spamming disgrace.

*Plonk*

Julio

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On Wednesday, 22 September 2021 at 17:24:14 UTC+2, ju...@diegidio.name wrote:
> On Wednesday, 22 September 2021 at 08:25:38 UTC+2, maluw...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > It was Gauss who proved that, toilet water drinker.
> > > > > > Who proved what,
> > > > > Gauss, toilet water drunkard
> > > > Did he prove that
> > > > Pythagorean theory is false? Really?
> > > Yep, he did: https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/p/Pythagorean_theorem.htm
> >
> > A quick test - how many relativistic morons are
> > rabid enough to support poor idiot Dono?
> The Pythagorean theorem holds in Euclidean geometry...

And "Earth is sphere-like" doesn't hold in Pratchet's
universum.
So, did Gauss prove that Pythagorean theory is false
or didn't he?

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On Wednesday, 22 September 2021 at 17:45:12 UTC+2, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> On Wednesday, 22 September 2021 at 17:24:14 UTC+2, ju...@diegidio.name wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 22 September 2021 at 08:25:38 UTC+2, maluw...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > > > > > It was Gauss who proved that, toilet water drinker.
> > > > > > > Who proved what,
> > > > > > Gauss, toilet water drunkard
> > > > > Did he prove that
> > > > > Pythagorean theory is false? Really?
> > > > Yep, he did: https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/p/Pythagorean_theorem.htm
> > >
> > > A quick test - how many relativistic morons are
> > > rabid enough to support poor idiot Dono?
> > The Pythagorean theorem holds in Euclidean geometry...
> And "Earth is sphere-like" doesn't hold in Pratchet's
> universum.
> So, did Gauss prove that Pythagorean theory is false
> or didn't he?

Pythagorean theorem, of course.

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Athel Cornish-Bowden <acornish@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:

> On 2021-09-22 06:25:36 +0000, Maciej Wozniak said:
>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It was Gauss who proved that, toilet water drinker.
> >>>>> Who proved what,
> >>>> Gauss, toilet water drunkard
> >>> Did he prove that
> >>> Pythagorean theory is false? Really?
> >> Yep, he did:
> >> https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/p/Pythagorean_theorem.h
tm
> >>
>
> My newsreader doesn't tell me who wrote that, not Dono., I suspect
> (though I could probably find out by putting my hands in the murky
> waters of Google Groups). However, I suspect that whoever wrote it
> didn't notice the title of the last section: "The Pythagorean theorem
> in non-Euclidean geometry." Pythagoras was concerned with Euclidean
> geometry.

In modern mathematics things have been turned upside-down.
Euclidean geometry is nowadays defined to be that geometry
in which the Pythagorean theorem holds.
(yes, you can prove equivalence with the // postulate)

So "The Pythagorean theorem in non-Euclidean geometry."
is a contradiction in terms,
unless you make it mean something
that is explicitly not 'the Pythagorean theorem',

Jan

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Sat, 6 Nov 2021 11:14 UTC

On Saturday, 6 November 2021 at 11:56:20 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Athel Cornish-Bowden <acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
>
> > On 2021-09-22 06:25:36 +0000, Maciej Wozniak said:
> >
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> It was Gauss who proved that, toilet water drinker.
> > >>>>> Who proved what,
> > >>>> Gauss, toilet water drunkard
> > >>> Did he prove that
> > >>> Pythagorean theory is false? Really?
> > >> Yep, he did:
> > >> https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/p/Pythagorean_theorem.h
> tm
> > >>
> >
> > My newsreader doesn't tell me who wrote that, not Dono., I suspect
> > (though I could probably find out by putting my hands in the murky
> > waters of Google Groups). However, I suspect that whoever wrote it
> > didn't notice the title of the last section: "The Pythagorean theorem
> > in non-Euclidean geometry." Pythagoras was concerned with Euclidean
> > geometry.
> In modern mathematics things have been turned upside-down.
> Euclidean geometry is nowadays defined to be that geometry
> in which the Pythagorean theorem holds.

Bullshit. I could easily provide a non-euclidean geometry holding
Pythagorean theorem (but not holding others). Anyway,
marxism-leninism is a theory in which "communism is the
best" theorem holds. And marxism-leninism is a false theory.
It's been proven quite well.
How about Euclidean geometry/theory? Did Gauss prove it
false, like poor idiot Dono has stated?

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From: nos...@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
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 by: J. J. Lodder - Sat, 6 Nov 2021 11:34 UTC

Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Saturday, 6 November 2021 at 11:56:20 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > Athel Cornish-Bowden <acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
> >
> > > On 2021-09-22 06:25:36 +0000, Maciej Wozniak said:
> > >
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> It was Gauss who proved that, toilet water drinker.
> > > >>>>> Who proved what,
> > > >>>> Gauss, toilet water drunkard
> > > >>> Did he prove that
> > > >>> Pythagorean theory is false? Really?
> > > >> Yep, he did:
> > > >> https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/p/Pythagorean_theor
em.h
> > tm
> > > >>
> > >
> > > My newsreader doesn't tell me who wrote that, not Dono., I suspect
> > > (though I could probably find out by putting my hands in the murky
> > > waters of Google Groups). However, I suspect that whoever wrote it
> > > didn't notice the title of the last section: "The Pythagorean theorem
> > > in non-Euclidean geometry." Pythagoras was concerned with Euclidean
> > > geometry.
> > In modern mathematics things have been turned upside-down.
> > Euclidean geometry is nowadays defined to be that geometry
> > in which the Pythagorean theorem holds.
>
> Bullshit.

Definitions can't be bullshit, they just are what they are.
At worst they can be inconsistent.

> I could easily provide a non-euclidean geometry holding
> Pythagorean theorem (but not holding others).

Please do, if you can,

Jan

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 by: Maciej Wozniak - Sat, 6 Nov 2021 13:15 UTC

On Saturday, 6 November 2021 at 12:34:37 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Maciej Wozniak <maluw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Saturday, 6 November 2021 at 11:56:20 UTC+1, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> > > Athel Cornish-Bowden <acor...@imm.cnrs.fr> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 2021-09-22 06:25:36 +0000, Maciej Wozniak said:
> > > >
> > > > >>>>>>
> > > > >>>>>> It was Gauss who proved that, toilet water drinker.
> > > > >>>>> Who proved what,
> > > > >>>> Gauss, toilet water drunkard
> > > > >>> Did he prove that
> > > > >>> Pythagorean theory is false? Really?
> > > > >> Yep, he did:
> > > > >> https://www.cs.mcgill.ca/~rwest/wikispeedia/wpcd/wp/p/Pythagorean_theor
> em.h
> > > tm
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > > My newsreader doesn't tell me who wrote that, not Dono., I suspect
> > > > (though I could probably find out by putting my hands in the murky
> > > > waters of Google Groups). However, I suspect that whoever wrote it
> > > > didn't notice the title of the last section: "The Pythagorean theorem
> > > > in non-Euclidean geometry." Pythagoras was concerned with Euclidean
> > > > geometry.
> > > In modern mathematics things have been turned upside-down.
> > > Euclidean geometry is nowadays defined to be that geometry
> > > in which the Pythagorean theorem holds.
> >
> > Bullshit.
> Definitions can't be bullshit, they just are what they are.
> At worst they can be inconsistent.

Let's define "a shark" as a 6-leg animal living in a forest in
a piles of pine needles, so called "sharkhills"...
Are you still sure a definition can't be a bullshit? So, let's
take another one: let's define as "Ministry of Love"....
Definition-based bullshits are the most repulsing
kind of bullshits.

> > I could easily provide a non-euclidean geometry holding
> > Pythagorean theorem (but not holding others).
> Please do, if you can,

There is alef0 of possibilities. Here is one of the most primitive:
let's take standard Lobachevsky's geometry with a little
change of a definition: we're calling a triangle "a right
triangle" <=>(one of its angles is pi/2 and it has the
Pythagorean property).

Now, marxism-leninism is a theory in which "communism is the
best" theorem holds. And marxism-leninism is a false theory.
It's been proven quite well.
How about Euclidean geometry/theory? Did Gauss prove it
false, like poor idiot Dono has stated?

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 by: Roland K - Sat, 6 Nov 2021 15:58 UTC

Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>>>> didn't notice the title of the last section: "The Pythagorean theorem
>>>>> in non-Euclidean geometry." Pythagoras was concerned with Euclidean
>>>>> geometry.
>>>> In modern mathematics things have been turned upside-down.
>>>> Euclidean geometry is nowadays defined to be that geometry
>>>> in which the Pythagorean theorem holds.
>>>
>>> Bullshit.
>> Definitions can't be bullshit, they just are what they are.
>> At worst they can be inconsistent.
>
> Let's define "a shark" as a 6-leg animal living in a forest in
> a piles of pine needles, so called "sharkhills"...
> Are you still sure a definition can't be a bullshit? So, let's
> take another one: let's define as "Ministry of Love"....
> Definition-based bullshits are the most repulsing
> kind of bullshits.
>
>>> I could easily provide a non-euclidean geometry holding
>>> Pythagorean theorem (but not holding others).
>> Please do, if you can,
>
> There is alef0 of possibilities. Here is one of the most primitive:
> let's take standard Lobachevsky's geometry with a little
> change of a definition: we're calling a triangle "a right
> triangle" <=>(one of its angles is pi/2 and it has the
> Pythagorean property).
>

In the meantime in the real world, however, GPS
clocks keep measuring t'=t, just like all serious clocks
always did.

>
> Now, marxism-leninism is a theory in which "communism is the
> best" theorem holds. And marxism-leninism is a false theory.
> It's been proven quite well.
> How about Euclidean geometry/theory? Did Gauss prove it
> false, like poor idiot Dono has stated?

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On Saturday, 6 November 2021 at 16:59:30 UTC+1, Roland K wrote:
> Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> >>>>> didn't notice the title of the last section: "The Pythagorean theorem
> >>>>> in non-Euclidean geometry." Pythagoras was concerned with Euclidean
> >>>>> geometry.
> >>>> In modern mathematics things have been turned upside-down.
> >>>> Euclidean geometry is nowadays defined to be that geometry
> >>>> in which the Pythagorean theorem holds.
> >>>
> >>> Bullshit.
> >> Definitions can't be bullshit, they just are what they are.
> >> At worst they can be inconsistent.
> >
> > Let's define "a shark" as a 6-leg animal living in a forest in
> > a piles of pine needles, so called "sharkhills"...
> > Are you still sure a definition can't be a bullshit? So, let's
> > take another one: let's define as "Ministry of Love"....
> > Definition-based bullshits are the most repulsing
> > kind of bullshits.
> >
> >>> I could easily provide a non-euclidean geometry holding
> >>> Pythagorean theorem (but not holding others).
> >> Please do, if you can,
> >
> > There is alef0 of possibilities. Here is one of the most primitive:
> > let's take standard Lobachevsky's geometry with a little
> > change of a definition: we're calling a triangle "a right
> > triangle" <=>(one of its angles is pi/2 and it has the
> > Pythagorean property).
> >
> In the meantime in the real world, however, GPS
> clocks keep measuring t'=t, just like all serious clocks
> always did.

True, but off topic.
Now, marxism-leninism is a theory in which "communism is the
best" theorem holds. And marxism-leninism is a false theory.
It's been proven quite well.
How about Euclidean geometry/theory? Did Gauss prove it
false, like poor idiot Dono has stated?

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