Look at California importing $130B from China, a full 33% of its total imports. No other state comes close except Texas at $88B. Texas doesn't seem to want to make America great again.

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/top-trading-partner-of-every-u-s-state/

On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 14:11:52 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>Look at California importing $130B from China, a full 33% of its total imports. No other state comes close except Texas at $88B. Texas doesn't seem to want to make America great again.
>
>https://www.visualcapitalist.com/top-trading-partner-of-every-u-s-state/

We do have some big container ports and airports that are convenient
to China. The SF bay is jammed with container ships waiting to unload.
Sure beats going through the Panama Canal.

I'd expect that a lot of our "imports" from China are trans-shipped
inland.

Most of the passenger cars that I see here are imports, but not from
China.

On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 6:01:58 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 14:11:52 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Look at California importing $130B from China, a full 33% of its total imports. No other state comes close except Texas at $88B. Texas doesn't seem to want to make America great again.
> >
> >https://www.visualcapitalist.com/top-trading-partner-of-every-u-s-state/
> We do have some big container ports and airports that are convenient
> to China. The SF bay is jammed with container ships waiting to unload.
> Sure beats going through the Panama Canal.
>
> I'd expect that a lot of our "imports" from China are trans-shipped
> inland.
>
> Most of the passenger cars that I see here are imports, but not from
> China.

More Japanese branded vehicles are made in the U.S. than I would've
imagined.
<https://www.businessinsider.com/all-the-japanese-cars-made-in-the-usa-2017-11?op=1>

On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 16:38:42 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
<deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 6:01:58 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 14:11:52 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Look at California importing $130B from China, a full 33% of its total imports. No other state comes close except Texas at $88B. Texas doesn't seem to want to make America great again.
>> >
>> >https://www.visualcapitalist.com/top-trading-partner-of-every-u-s-state/
>> We do have some big container ports and airports that are convenient
>> to China. The SF bay is jammed with container ships waiting to unload.
>> Sure beats going through the Panama Canal.
>>
>> I'd expect that a lot of our "imports" from China are trans-shipped
>> inland.
>>
>> Most of the passenger cars that I see here are imports, but not from
>> China.
>
> More Japanese branded vehicles are made in the U.S. than I would've
>imagined.
><https://www.businessinsider.com/all-the-japanese-cars-made-in-the-usa-2017-11?op=1>

Yes, unfortunately.
--
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

On Friday, July 23, 2021 at 9:24:55 AM UTC-7, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 16:38:42 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
> <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 6:01:58 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
> >> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 14:11:52 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Look at California importing $130B from China, a full 33% of its total imports. No other state comes close except Texas at $88B. Texas doesn't seem to want to make America great again.
> >> >
> >> >https://www.visualcapitalist.com/top-trading-partner-of-every-u-s-state/
> >> We do have some big container ports and airports that are convenient
> >> to China. The SF bay is jammed with container ships waiting to unload.
> >> Sure beats going through the Panama Canal.
> >>
> >> I'd expect that a lot of our "imports" from China are trans-shipped
> >> inland.
> >>
> >> Most of the passenger cars that I see here are imports, but not from
> >> China.
> >
> > More Japanese branded vehicles are made in the U.S. than I would've
> >imagined.
> ><https://www.businessinsider.com/all-the-japanese-cars-made-in-the-usa-2017-11?op=1>
> Yes, unfortunately.

It costs around a thousand dollars (in normal time) to ship a car from Asia. So, it only make sense to assemble complete cars here. However, most of the high values parts are still made in Japan and China.

fredag den 23. juli 2021 kl. 18.32.55 UTC+2 skrev Ed Lee:
> On Friday, July 23, 2021 at 9:24:55 AM UTC-7, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> > On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 16:38:42 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
> > <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 6:01:58 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 14:11:52 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> > >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Look at California importing $130B from China, a full 33% of its total imports. No other state comes close except Texas at $88B. Texas doesn't seem to want to make America great again.
> > >> >
> > >> >https://www.visualcapitalist.com/top-trading-partner-of-every-u-s-state/
> > >> We do have some big container ports and airports that are convenient
> > >> to China. The SF bay is jammed with container ships waiting to unload.
> > >> Sure beats going through the Panama Canal.
> > >>
> > >> I'd expect that a lot of our "imports" from China are trans-shipped
> > >> inland.
> > >>
> > >> Most of the passenger cars that I see here are imports, but not from
> > >> China.
> > >
> > > More Japanese branded vehicles are made in the U.S. than I would've
> > >imagined.
> > ><https://www.businessinsider.com/all-the-japanese-cars-made-in-the-usa-2017-11?op=1>
> > Yes, unfortunately.
> It costs around a thousand dollars (in normal time) to ship a car from Asia. So, it only make sense to assemble complete cars here. However, most of the high values parts are still made in Japan and China.

afaik most foreign cars in Europe is also made in Europe, because the is a substantial tax
on importing whole cars

fredag den 23. juli 2021 kl. 18.24.55 UTC+2 skrev Spehro Pefhany:
> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 16:38:42 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
> <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 6:01:58 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
> >> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 14:11:52 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Look at California importing $130B from China, a full 33% of its total imports. No other state comes close except Texas at $88B. Texas doesn't seem to want to make America great again.
> >> >
> >> >https://www.visualcapitalist.com/top-trading-partner-of-every-u-s-state/
> >> We do have some big container ports and airports that are convenient
> >> to China. The SF bay is jammed with container ships waiting to unload.
> >> Sure beats going through the Panama Canal.
> >>
> >> I'd expect that a lot of our "imports" from China are trans-shipped
> >> inland.
> >>
> >> Most of the passenger cars that I see here are imports, but not from
> >> China.
> >
> > More Japanese branded vehicles are made in the U.S. than I would've
> >imagined.
> ><https://www.businessinsider.com/all-the-japanese-cars-made-in-the-usa-2017-11?op=1>
> Yes, unfortunately.

unfortunate that the US cars are not build in the US or unfortunate that the Japanese cars
are build in the US?

On Friday, July 23, 2021 at 9:39:49 AM UTC-7, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
> fredag den 23. juli 2021 kl. 18.24.55 UTC+2 skrev Spehro Pefhany:
> > On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 16:38:42 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
> > <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 6:01:58 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
> > >> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 14:11:52 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> > >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Look at California importing $130B from China, a full 33% of its total imports. No other state comes close except Texas at $88B. Texas doesn't seem to want to make America great again.
> > >> >
> > >> >https://www.visualcapitalist.com/top-trading-partner-of-every-u-s-state/
> > >> We do have some big container ports and airports that are convenient
> > >> to China. The SF bay is jammed with container ships waiting to unload.
> > >> Sure beats going through the Panama Canal.
> > >>
> > >> I'd expect that a lot of our "imports" from China are trans-shipped
> > >> inland.
> > >>
> > >> Most of the passenger cars that I see here are imports, but not from
> > >> China.
> > >
> > > More Japanese branded vehicles are made in the U.S. than I would've
> > >imagined.
> > ><https://www.businessinsider.com/all-the-japanese-cars-made-in-the-usa-2017-11?op=1>
> > Yes, unfortunately.
> unfortunate that the US cars are not build in the US or unfortunate that the Japanese cars
> are build in the US?
Both.

Am 23.07.21 um 18:38 schrieb Lasse Langwadt Christensen:

> afaik most foreign cars in Europe is also made in Europe, because the is a substantial tax on importing whole cars

10%

On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 09:44:14 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
<edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, July 23, 2021 at 9:39:49 AM UTC-7, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
>> fredag den 23. juli 2021 kl. 18.24.55 UTC+2 skrev Spehro Pefhany:
>> > On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 16:38:42 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
>> > <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > >On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 6:01:58 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
>> > >> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 14:11:52 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
>> > >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> >Look at California importing $130B from China, a full 33% of its total imports. No other state comes close except Texas at $88B. Texas doesn't seem to want to make America great again.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >https://www.visualcapitalist.com/top-trading-partner-of-every-u-s-state/
>> > >> We do have some big container ports and airports that are convenient
>> > >> to China. The SF bay is jammed with container ships waiting to unload.
>> > >> Sure beats going through the Panama Canal.
>> > >>
>> > >> I'd expect that a lot of our "imports" from China are trans-shipped
>> > >> inland.
>> > >>
>> > >> Most of the passenger cars that I see here are imports, but not from
>> > >> China.
>> > >
>> > > More Japanese branded vehicles are made in the U.S. than I would've
>> > >imagined.
>> > ><https://www.businessinsider.com/all-the-japanese-cars-made-in-the-usa-2017-11?op=1>
>> > Yes, unfortunately.
>> unfortunate that the US cars are not build in the US or unfortunate that the Japanese cars
>> are build in the US?
>Both.

Japan did bloody well out of losing the war!
--

"You must therefore confess that by 'individual' you mean no other person
than the bourgeois; than the middle-class owner of property. This person
must indeed be swept out of the way, and made impossible."

- Marx & Engels, The Communist Manifesto

On Saturday, July 24, 2021 at 6:18:19 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jul 2021 09:44:14 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
> <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >On Friday, July 23, 2021 at 9:39:49 AM UTC-7, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
> >> fredag den 23. juli 2021 kl. 18.24.55 UTC+2 skrev Spehro Pefhany:
> >> > On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 16:38:42 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
> >> > <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 6:01:58 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
> >> > >> On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 14:11:52 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
> >> > >> <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >Look at California importing $130B from China, a full 33% of its total imports. No other state comes close except Texas at $88B. Texas doesn't seem to want to make America great again.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >https://www.visualcapitalist.com/top-trading-partner-of-every-u-s-state/
> >> > >> We do have some big container ports and airports that are convenient to China. The SF bay is jammed with container ships waiting to unload. Sure beats going through the Panama Canal.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I'd expect that a lot of our "imports" from China are trans-shipped inland.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Most of the passenger cars that I see here are imports, but not from China.
> >> > >
> >> > > More Japanese branded vehicles are made in the U.S. than I would've imagined.
> >> > ><https://www.businessinsider.com/all-the-japanese-cars-made-in-the-usa-2017-11?op=1>
> >> >
> >> > Yes, unfortunately.
> >> >
> >> unfortunate that the US cars are not build in the US or unfortunate that the Japanese cars are build in the US?
> >
> >Both.
>
> Japan did bloody well out of losing the war!

I don't think that losing the war in 1945 was all that helpful to their subsequent success in manufacturing. It did lead to a lot of destruction in the manufacturing sector which got re-built with more modern equipment, in the same way that German manufacturing sector had to be, but most of it had been rebuilt again before they started to do all that well. Being on the wining side in WW2 didn't do much for the UK, but it didn't seem to hurt the US.

It may be that Japan losing WW2 discredited a particular part of Japanese society, and Britain's survival left creeps like Cursitor Doom with more influence than was good for the country. The US was more democratic than the UK back then, but it doesn't seem to be now.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney