Hi, I also have a gomco pump , but I don't known what kind of oil it is used Ford it , could You please give me the información?

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On 1/12/2023 9:03 AM, Arturo Zárate wrote:
> Hi, I also have a gomco pump , but I don't known what kind of oil it is
> used Ford it , could You please give me the información?
>

Just search vacuum pump oil. Its probably a generic light mineral oil
since in many applications you are supposed to replace it after each use
or two. If you have used it on a compressor burnout system and/or its
an expensive pump every time.

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"Arturo Zárate" wrote in message
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Hi, I also have a gomco pump , but I don't known what kind of oil it is used
Ford it , could You please give me the información?

-------------------------

It's a medical pump so the industrial oil types may not be right for it.

http://www.wemed1.com/downloads/dl/file/id/6748/product/4409/manual_for_suc_g_400_401_402_403_404.pdf

"Arturo Zárate" wrote in message
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Hi, I also have a gomco pump , but I don't known what kind of oil it is used
Ford it , could You please give me the información?

-----------------------

This is a good resource for medical equipment if you don't have dealer
support where you are.
http://www.frankshospitalworkshop.com/index.html

On 1/12/2023 11:00 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> "Arturo Zárate"  wrote in message
> news:17399b3c7ade0bbd$146$882354$53d3d9df@news.newsgroupdirect.com...
>
> Hi, I also have a gomco pump , but I don't known what kind of oil it is
> used Ford it , could You please give me the información?
>
> -------------------------
>
> It's a medical pump so the industrial oil types may not be right for it.
>
> http://www.wemed1.com/downloads/dl/file/id/6748/product/4409/manual_for_suc_g_400_401_402_403_404.pdf
>
>

Likely "they say" its been filtered and chemically tested to make sure
its "pure" light mineral oil, a medical label has been slapped on it,
and the accountant chortled evilly as he slapped a 10000% markup on it.

Kinda like a Black & Decker bone drill. (No shit.)

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On 1/12/2023 11:00 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> "Arturo Zárate" wrote in message
> news:17399b3c7ade0bbd$146$882354$53d3d9df@news.newsgroupdirect.com...
>
> Hi, I also have a gomco pump , but I don't known what kind of oil it is
> used Ford it , could You please give me the información?
>
> -------------------------
>
> It's a medical pump so the industrial oil types may not be right for it.
>
> http://www.wemed1.com/downloads/dl/file/id/6748/product/4409/manual_for_suc_g_400_401_402_403_404.pdf

Likely "they say" its been filtered and chemically tested to make sure
its "pure" light mineral oil, a medical label has been slapped on it,
and the accountant chortled evilly as he slapped a 10000% markup on it.

Kinda like a Black & Decker bone drill. (No shit.)

-----------------------

I worked in the medical industry and know what you mean, that environment is
substantially controlled by the threats of lawsuits and government
(mis)management.
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/pfizer-fined-23-billion-illegal-marketing-off-label/story?id=8477617
Like ISO9000 you are covered if you followed the procedures. I can't stop
him from filling it with used motor oil, but he's been warned.

Don't use second-hand vacuum pump oil from a chemistry lab or semiconductor
fab line.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsine

When the opportunity arose I bought a wheelchair with title so I'll have it
the moment when needed, not months later. I had been the executor of an
elderly gentleman who was in it for many years, and after he died the
supplier offered to sell it cheap. I've loaned it out to needy friends while
they waited for paperwork and used it myself when my knee went out.

Back when I was servicing manual and powered wheelchairs between high tech
R&D jobs an armrest pad that should cost $5 in Walmart went for $50 when
billed to Medicare. For that price I'd reupholster it, a skill I learned as
a stagehand. This "post-industrial" society struggles to support more and
more people on less and less created value.

On 1/13/2023 11:15 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> "Bob La Londe"  wrote in message news:tps0kp$qel$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>
> On 1/12/2023 11:00 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
>> "Arturo Zárate"  wrote in message
>> news:17399b3c7ade0bbd$146$882354$53d3d9df@news.newsgroupdirect.com...
>>
>> Hi, I also have a gomco pump , but I don't known what kind of oil it
>> is used Ford it , could You please give me the información?
>>
>> -------------------------
>>
>> It's a medical pump so the industrial oil types may not be right for it.
>>
>> http://www.wemed1.com/downloads/dl/file/id/6748/product/4409/manual_for_suc_g_400_401_402_403_404.pdf
>
> Likely "they say" its been filtered and chemically tested to make sure
> its "pure" light mineral oil, a medical label has been slapped on it,
> and the accountant chortled evilly as he slapped a 10000% markup on it.
>
> Kinda like a Black & Decker bone drill.  (No shit.)
>
> -----------------------
>
> I worked in the medical industry and know what you mean, that
> environment is substantially controlled by the threats of lawsuits and
> government (mis)management.
> https://abcnews.go.com/Business/pfizer-fined-23-billion-illegal-marketing-off-label/story?id=8477617
> Like ISO9000 you are covered if you followed the procedures. I can't
> stop him from filling it with used motor oil, but he's been warned.
>
> Don't use second-hand vacuum pump oil from a chemistry lab or
> semiconductor fab line.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsine
>
> When the opportunity arose I bought a wheelchair with title so I'll have
> it the moment when needed, not months later. I had been the executor of
> an elderly gentleman who was in it for many years, and after he died the
> supplier offered to sell it cheap. I've loaned it out to needy friends
> while they waited for paperwork and used it myself when my knee went out.
>
> Back when I was servicing manual and powered wheelchairs between high
> tech R&D jobs an armrest pad that should cost $5 in Walmart went for $50
> when billed to Medicare. For that price I'd reupholster it, a skill I
> learned as a stagehand. This "post-industrial" society struggles to
> support more and more people on less and less created value.
>

My wife talks about being in med school and they literally used a Black
& Decker drill for orthopedics, then later they were told it had to have
a medical certification. The only difference was the color of the
plastic... and the price. I may have the details off a little, but
that is the gist of it.

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On 1/13/2023 2:10 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
> On 1/13/2023 11:15 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
>> "Bob La Londe"  wrote in message news:tps0kp$qel$1@gioia.aioe.org...
>>
>> On 1/12/2023 11:00 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
>>> "Arturo Zárate"  wrote in message
>>> news:17399b3c7ade0bbd$146$882354$53d3d9df@news.newsgroupdirect.com...
>>>
>>> Hi, I also have a gomco pump , but I don't known what kind of oil it
>>> is used Ford it , could You please give me the información?
>>>
>>> -------------------------
>>>
>>> It's a medical pump so the industrial oil types may not be right for it.
>>>
>>> http://www.wemed1.com/downloads/dl/file/id/6748/product/4409/manual_for_suc_g_400_401_402_403_404.pdf
>>
>> Likely "they say" its been filtered and chemically tested to make sure
>> its "pure" light mineral oil, a medical label has been slapped on it,
>> and the accountant chortled evilly as he slapped a 10000% markup on it.
>>
>> Kinda like a Black & Decker bone drill.  (No shit.)
>>
>> -----------------------
>>
>> I worked in the medical industry and know what you mean, that
>> environment is substantially controlled by the threats of lawsuits and
>> government (mis)management.
>> https://abcnews.go.com/Business/pfizer-fined-23-billion-illegal-marketing-off-label/story?id=8477617
>> Like ISO9000 you are covered if you followed the procedures. I can't
>> stop him from filling it with used motor oil, but he's been warned.
>>
>> Don't use second-hand vacuum pump oil from a chemistry lab or
>> semiconductor fab line.
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsine
>>
>> When the opportunity arose I bought a wheelchair with title so I'll
>> have it the moment when needed, not months later. I had been the
>> executor of an elderly gentleman who was in it for many years, and
>> after he died the supplier offered to sell it cheap. I've loaned it
>> out to needy friends while they waited for paperwork and used it
>> myself when my knee went out.
>>
>> Back when I was servicing manual and powered wheelchairs between high
>> tech R&D jobs an armrest pad that should cost $5 in Walmart went for
>> $50 when billed to Medicare. For that price I'd reupholster it, a
>> skill I learned as a stagehand. This "post-industrial" society
>> struggles to support more and more people on less and less created value.
>>
>
> My wife talks about being in med school and they literally used a Black
> & Decker drill for orthopedics, then later they were told it had to have
> a medical certification.  The only difference was the color of the
> plastic...  and the price.  I may have the details off a little, but
> that is the gist of it.
>

P.S. A few years back (ten or fifteen maybe) I was doing some work on
the security system for a warehouse for a transfer company, and in one
section of the warehouse was hundreds (maybe thousands) of old (not that
old) bedside medical monitors being exported.

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On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 1:24:25 PM UTC-8, Bob La Londe wrote:
> On 1/13/2023 2:10 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
> > On 1/13/2023 11:15 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> >> "Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:tps0kp$qel$1...@gioia.aioe.org....
> >>
> >> On 1/12/2023 11:00 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> >>> "Arturo Zárate" wrote in message
> >>> news:17399b3c7ade0bbd$146$882354$53d3...@news.newsgroupdirect.com...
> >>>
> >>> Hi, I also have a gomco pump , but I don't known what kind of oil it
> >>> is used Ford it , could You please give me the información?
> >>>
> >>> -------------------------
> >>>
> >>> It's a medical pump so the industrial oil types may not be right for it.
> >>>
> >>> http://www.wemed1.com/downloads/dl/file/id/6748/product/4409/manual_for_suc_g_400_401_402_403_404.pdf
> >>
> >> Likely "they say" its been filtered and chemically tested to make sure
> >> its "pure" light mineral oil, a medical label has been slapped on it,
> >> and the accountant chortled evilly as he slapped a 10000% markup on it..
> >>
> >> Kinda like a Black & Decker bone drill. (No shit.)
> >>
> >> -----------------------
> >>
> >> I worked in the medical industry and know what you mean, that
> >> environment is substantially controlled by the threats of lawsuits and
> >> government (mis)management.
> >> https://abcnews.go.com/Business/pfizer-fined-23-billion-illegal-marketing-off-label/story?id=8477617
> >> Like ISO9000 you are covered if you followed the procedures. I can't
> >> stop him from filling it with used motor oil, but he's been warned.
> >>
> >> Don't use second-hand vacuum pump oil from a chemistry lab or
> >> semiconductor fab line.
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsine
> >>
> >> When the opportunity arose I bought a wheelchair with title so I'll
> >> have it the moment when needed, not months later. I had been the
> >> executor of an elderly gentleman who was in it for many years, and
> >> after he died the supplier offered to sell it cheap. I've loaned it
> >> out to needy friends while they waited for paperwork and used it
> >> myself when my knee went out.
> >>
> >> Back when I was servicing manual and powered wheelchairs between high
> >> tech R&D jobs an armrest pad that should cost $5 in Walmart went for
> >> $50 when billed to Medicare. For that price I'd reupholster it, a
> >> skill I learned as a stagehand. This "post-industrial" society
> >> struggles to support more and more people on less and less created value.
> >>
> >
> > My wife talks about being in med school and they literally used a Black
> > & Decker drill for orthopedics, then later they were told it had to have
> > a medical certification. The only difference was the color of the
> > plastic... and the price. I may have the details off a little, but
> > that is the gist of it.
> >
> P.S. A few years back (ten or fifteen maybe) I was doing some work on
> the security system for a warehouse for a transfer company, and in one
> section of the warehouse was hundreds (maybe thousands) of old (not that
> old) bedside medical monitors being exported.
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Some vacumn pumps have carbon vanes which like some people should not have an alcohol near tem .
animal

"Laura Allen" wrote in message
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Some vacumn pumps have carbon vanes which like some people should not have
an alcohol near tem .
animal

------------------------

Do you have references for that?
https://www.pumpsandsystems.com/selecting-vacuum-pump-cannabis-processing

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:tpsi65$1n3gl$1@dont-email.me...

P.S. A few years back (ten or fifteen maybe) I was doing some work on
the security system for a warehouse for a transfer company, and in one
section of the warehouse was hundreds (maybe thousands) of old (not that
old) bedside medical monitors being exported.

---------------------

Maybe Frank received some in Tanzania or Zambia.

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:tpshcn$oaj$1@gioia.aioe.org...

My wife talks about being in med school and they literally used a Black
& Decker drill for orthopedics, then later they were told it had to have
a medical certification. The only difference was the color of the
plastic... and the price. I may have the details off a little, but
that is the gist of it.

----------------------

We must be safe, at any price.

My contribution was repairing medical devices so at least they weren't
thrown away.

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 07:28:48 -0500
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>
>My contribution was repairing medical devices so at least they weren't
>thrown away.

Though of you the other day and your working on these items while
listening to this NPR clip:

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/05/1147052874/a-broken-wheelchair-can-bring-life-to-a-standstill-and-create-multiple-problems

A lot could be learned from your experience with the hassles and
liability worries but I'm sure the businesses currently doing it would
quickly squash any changes :(

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI

"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message news:tpu6gc$1vi5u$1@dont-email.me...

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message news:tpsi65$1n3gl$1@dont-email.me...

P.S. A few years back (ten or fifteen maybe) I was doing some work on
the security system for a warehouse for a transfer company, and in one
section of the warehouse was hundreds (maybe thousands) of old (not that
old) bedside medical monitors being exported.

---------------------

Maybe Frank received some in Tanzania or Zambia.
https://www.aktionskreis-ostafrika.de/en/ako-projekte/new-project-a-medical-technician-for-kibosho-hospital-194/

"Material donations of technical tools regularly arrive at the hospital. A
recurring problem, however, is that there are no specialists in the country
specifically educated in medical technology. A dentist’s chair complete with
all its functions or an x-ray machine cannot be repaired by an electrician.
There are no service networks from the manufacturer available in the
country. Even replacement parts are often hard to come by, and when they are
available, they are very expensive."

Manufacturers who require factory-authorized service have attempted to shut
him down. They have the burden of proving a procedure wasn't followed or a
part that failed was counterfeit, for example a locally fabricated part that
fell off a DC-10 caused the Concorde crash.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Air-France-flight-4590
"The engine part (a thrust reverser wear strip) had recently been replaced
in routine maintenance. The mechanic who did the work used a strip made of
an alloy with 90 percent titanium content, not stainless steel as specified
by the manufacturer of the engine."

The answer isn't easy. If the Government demands control over your creations
you may stop producing them. Many desirable foreign autos aren't legal to
import.
https://blog.dupontregistry.com/news/foreign-cars-that-are-illegal-in-usa/

https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/page/medical-tourism
"Each year, millions of US residents participate in medical tourism. Medical
tourists from the United States commonly travel to Mexico and Canada, as
well as countries in Central America, South America, and the Caribbean."

"Leon Fisk" wrote in message news:tpua6t$1vmv5$1@dont-email.me...

Though of you the other day and your working on these items while
listening to this NPR clip:

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/05/1147052874/a-broken-wheelchair-can-bring-life-to-a-standstill-and-create-multiple-problems

A lot could be learned from your experience with the hassles and
liability worries but I'm sure the businesses currently doing it would
quickly squash any changes :(

Leon Fisk

----------------------------

My father was the deputy commissioner and CFO of NH's largest state
department, and thus I knew a number of important people socially and
listened to them. He had to swallow his frustrations at work and then
unloaded them on us at home, and I have his temperament. I'll confine myself
to swinging a wrench and mildly complaining or presenting both sides. I did
work as lab manager at a think tank that addressed governmental issues, the
Mitre Corporation, so I was exposed to what they were, like the dilemma of
providing public funding to work that may lead to private gain, such as
medical research. Non-profit FFRDCs are one solution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federally_funded_research_and_development_centers

I think the weirdest connection to government I had was preparing a revolver
with blanks to be shot at a community theatre actor whose was prosecuting a
vicious murderer by day and expertly playing one (Dickens' Bill Sikes) at
night. The second was driving in European city traffic with a loaded machine
gun after the Munich Olympics massacre.

"Leon Fisk" wrote in message news:tpua6t$1vmv5$1@dont-email.me...

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 07:28:48 -0500
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>
>My contribution was repairing medical devices so at least they weren't
>thrown away.

Though of you the other day and your working on these items while
listening to this NPR clip:

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/05/1147052874/a-broken-wheelchair-can-bring-life-to-a-standstill-and-create-multiple-problems

A lot could be learned from your experience with the hassles and
liability worries but I'm sure the businesses currently doing it would
quickly squash any changes :(
Leon Fisk

---------------------

Here's a lawyer fighting the grey market in medical devices.
https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/stopping-the-sale-of-gray-market-82873/
"..and storage temperatures may be listed in Centigrade rather than
Fahrenheit."

The Pfizer suit I referenced is an example of no good deed going unpunished.
I'm a share holder and the letter I received on the suit cast them as evil
demons for trying to relieve pain in unapproved ways. It seems we've lost
the ability to distinguish ignorant from innocent, culpable from capable.

There are substantial numbers of the disabled who for various reasons can't
deal effectively with the complexities of Medicare (or life itself),
yesterday I encountered that problem between medical offices with diagnostic
codes for a routine blood test, even though I expected the problem, had
called everyone involved and was assured all was OK. The dysfunctional
disabled may have to depend instead on the immediate, personal, sympathetic
assistance of grey market providers. Since I was a very low level part of
the System I didn't deal with them but they convinced me not to divert
surplus equipment to my home projects.

The only solution I see is to cover my own 'cul' and let society get what it
asks for. The needy around here know that I'll open my hands to help them,
to shingle a roof for instance, but not my wallet which only leads to
trouble.

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 12:29:00 -0500
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>
>The only solution I see is to cover my own 'cul' and let society get what it
>asks for. The needy around here know that I'll open my hands to help them,
>to shingle a roof for instance, but not my wallet which only leads to
>trouble.

Agreed ;-) but I rarely offer anymore...

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI

"Leon Fisk" wrote in message news:tpurhk$225hk$1@dont-email.me...

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 12:29:00 -0500
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>
>The only solution I see is to cover my own 'cul' and let society get what
>it
>asks for. The needy around here know that I'll open my hands to help them,
>to shingle a roof for instance, but not my wallet which only leads to
>trouble.

Agreed ;-) but I rarely offer anymore...
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI

------------------

Same here, the old sports injuries have come back. I say I feel like a
teen-ager because I hurt in the same places.

The questionnaire for the next Wellness Visit just arrived. It's Medicare's
lite version of an annual physical.
Q: Do you need help with your daily household activities?
A: Sometimes. What do you know about industrial machine tools or electric
welding equipment?

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 15:07:39 -0500
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>
>The questionnaire for the next Wellness Visit just arrived. It's Medicare's
>lite version of an annual physical.
>Q: Do you need help with your daily household activities?
>A: Sometimes. What do you know about industrial machine tools or electric
>welding equipment?

I don't take the risk of asking questions like that anymore other than
in my imagination. Sometimes they actually follow up and then you have
to explain even farther<eye-roll>.

Relative did that physical thing. They asked several times if
there would be any charge and the Office assured them it was all
covered by Medicare. And as you've already guessed it wasn't and they
were billed for services not covered :(

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI

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On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 15:07:39 -0500
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>
>The questionnaire for the next Wellness Visit just arrived. It's Medicare's
>lite version of an annual physical.
>Q: Do you need help with your daily household activities?
>A: Sometimes. What do you know about industrial machine tools or electric
>welding equipment?

I don't take the risk of asking questions like that anymore other than
in my imagination. Sometimes they actually follow up and then you have
to explain even farther<eye-roll>.

-----------------------
You already know RCM posters have tools. I'm careful what I tell them.
Discussing chainsaws and my home-made sawmill tends to move the interview
past other possessions.

https://www.aclu.org/other/faq-government-access-medical-records

Recent and pending updates expand the power to obtain records.

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 4:11:40 AM UTC-8, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> "Laura Allen" wrote in message
> news:dd3c0260-a809-413a...@googlegroups.com...
> Some vacumn pumps have carbon vanes which like some people should not have
> an alcohol near tem .
> animal
> ------------------------
>
> Do you have references for that?
> https://www.pumpsandsystems.com/selecting-vacuum-pump-cannabis-processing

I worked for a disk drive manufacturer in the midd/late 70's & we used a vacumn pump on our drives . Our pump had carbon vanes I had to rebuild the pump a few times . I've also seen carbon vane vacumn pumps used in a dental office , but that was all 40 yers back . About all I can tell you about the ones I seen/worked on is that they were gray & they had small jars where the crap being filtered would get dumped & when the jars got so full you had to empty the jars . I kinda remember that they may have been made in Europe . A quick google shows some sources
https://www.maitis-carbonvane.com/product/category?id=1&brandId=15&gclid=CjwKCAiAwomeBhBWEiwAM43YIJqpXwzvU2ff-emdNC6bX5MipZttugKQTKat9_GnjAfDI66CsJdO5RoCQO8QAvD_BwE

https://www.google.com/search?q=european+dental+vacuum+pump&oq=european+dental+vacumn&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j33i10i160l4.10775j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

thats about the best I can do
animal

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On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 4:11:40 AM UTC-8, Jim Wilkins wrote:
> "Laura Allen" wrote in message
> news:dd3c0260-a809-413a...@googlegroups.com...
> Some vacumn pumps have carbon vanes which like some people should not have
> an alcohol near tem .
> animal
> ------------------------
>
> Do you have references for that?
> https://www.pumpsandsystems.com/selecting-vacuum-pump-cannabis-processing

I worked for a disk drive manufacturer in the midd/late 70's & we used a
vacumn pump on our drives . Our pump had carbon vanes I had to rebuild the
pump a few times . I've also seen carbon vane vacumn pumps used in a dental
office , but that was all 40 yers back . About all I can tell you about the
ones I seen/worked on is that they were gray & they had small jars where the
crap being filtered would get dumped & when the jars got so full you had to
empty the jars . I kinda remember that they may have been made in Europe . A
quick google shows some sources
https://www.maitis-carbonvane.com/product/category?id=1&brandId=15&gclid=CjwKCAiAwomeBhBWEiwAM43YIJqpXwzvU2ff-emdNC6bX5MipZttugKQTKat9_GnjAfDI66CsJdO5RoCQO8QAvD_BwE

https://www.google.com/search?q=european+dental+vacuum+pump&oq=european+dental+vacumn&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j33i10i160l4.10775j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

thats about the best I can do
animal

--------------------

Thanks. I asked because I acquired a small vacuum oven and Gast pump at
auction.
https://teamequip.com/gast-0211-v138-g218cx-vacuum-pump-t178361/

The oven had been used to remove air bubbles from cast epoxy, which was
thick on the oven floor. I learned how to use lab equipment in college but
never heard that alcohol -vapor- would harm pumps. We used condensers and
traps to recover and keep out liquid solvents which would since they are
incompressible. Perhaps the distinction between alcohol liquid and vapor was
lost in passing on the warning.

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 18:46:36 -0500
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>
>You already know RCM posters have tools. I'm careful what I tell them.
>Discussing chainsaws and my home-made sawmill tends to move the interview
>past other possessions.
>
>https://www.aclu.org/other/faq-government-access-medical-records
>
>Recent and pending updates expand the power to obtain records.

Wasn't precisely aware of that but not all that surprised either.
Thanks for the heads up :-)

On a some what related note... Amazon has a Ring camera for your car
coming out:

https://www.securityinfowatch.com/ces/press-release/21291681/ring-debuts-car-cam-security-camera

Pretty sure we can count on that being shared with law enforcement too
:(

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Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI

"Leon Fisk" wrote in message news:tq0tme$2bmjq$1@dont-email.me...

On Sat, 14 Jan 2023 18:46:36 -0500
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>
>You already know RCM posters have tools. I'm careful what I tell them.
>Discussing chainsaws and my home-made sawmill tends to move the interview
>past other possessions.
>
>https://www.aclu.org/other/faq-government-access-medical-records
>
>Recent and pending updates expand the power to obtain records.

Wasn't precisely aware of that but not all that surprised either.
Thanks for the heads up :-)

On a some what related note... Amazon has a Ring camera for your car
coming out:

https://www.securityinfowatch.com/ces/press-release/21291681/ring-debuts-car-cam-security-camera

Pretty sure we can count on that being shared with law enforcement too
:(

Leon Fisk

----------------------

I worked in communications security in the Army and later, and avoid WiFi.
To any monitoring Feds, that's why I visit crypto-related sites.

My surveillance cameras are hard-wired or trail cams, this laptop is
physically tethered to the iPhone that links to cellular Internet, and I
disconnect before using the laptop for other things, especially the income
tax spreadsheet I wrote.

On Sun, 15 Jan 2023 09:43:42 -0500
"Jim Wilkins" <muratlanne@gmail.com> wrote:

>I worked in communications security in the Army and later, and avoid WiFi.
>To any monitoring Feds, that's why I visit crypto-related sites.
>
>My surveillance cameras are hard-wired or trail cams, this laptop is
>physically tethered to the iPhone that links to cellular Internet, and I
>disconnect before using the laptop for other things, especially the income
>tax spreadsheet I wrote.

I'm not that fastidious, but I do somewhat keep an eye on what
my computer is doing...

Thought the way they tracked down the Washington Substation perps was
enlightening:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23560595-greenwood-and-crahan-complaint

Nowadays one should just assume that they are on camera being recorded
and most likely their location is being logged ;-)

--
Leon Fisk
Grand Rapids MI